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breaking news tonight live, windermere, florida. > super star golf phenomenon tiger woods drives out of the his compound, barefoot, 2:00 a.m. after thanksgiving day celebrations and has a head-on collision with a tree and a fire hydrant. his young wife, the mother of his two children reportedly hears the crash from inside the house, runs out to beat out both back windows of woods' cadillac. woods refusing to speak to police, pulling out of his own
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golf tournament as the alleged mi mistresses hit double digits, including two porn stars and a waitress in a pancake house. woods gets a slap on the wrist even though a witness tells police that woods was drinking before the crash and prescribed sleeping pills and a painkiller, vicodin. child services flanked by cops reportedly show up at woods' mansion, reportedly after claims of a domestic incident with a weapon in front of the children. in the last hours, woods' wife spotted without her wedding ring and she's contacting divorce lawyers. do you blame her? this adds up to $35 million endorsements dry up, and yet
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another alleged mistress comes forward, the tally now at 14! all this on the heels of news that tiger woods sacked up with one of these women at the family home the night his beloved father passes away. moving vans showing up at woods' florida compound, packing up and leaving. then boxes loaded onto woods' multi-million-dollar yacht, the privacy, all on the heels of woods taking, quote, an indefinite leave from golf and admitting in iffidelity. could tiger sue? what really happened to tiger woods?
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>> reporter: breaking news. the florida department of children and families reportedly paid a visit to the woods' home after they received word there was an alleged domestic incident in front of the kids. dcf won't comment on their possible involvement with the woods' family. but police confirm they did assist a dcf visit to the subdivision, woods' exclusive gatd community. >> tiger woods has lost his first big name sponsor since admitting to cheating on his wife. his decisi its decision to end the six-rear working relationship with woods came after tiger woods announced his infidelity and his intent to take a leave of absence from golf. >> she knew tiger woods was married, but she allegedly told risk the major wasn't doing well
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and stayed with his wife because she was pregnant. new images surface of her and woods out on the town without her wedding ring. >> thank you for being with us. bo bombshell tonight. child services flanked by police show up at woods' house after claims of an alleged incident with a weapon in front of the children. >> why is the florida department of children and families reportedly investigating tiger and elin woods? radar online reporting that dcf representatives made a trip to tiger woods' home on friday. >> he made the announcement he is taking an indefinite leave of absence from golf. >> elin woods finally spotted running errands without her wedding ring. what's it mean? >> more alleged affairs, more alleged mistresses. a full-blown tiger woods scandal. >> woods portraying himself as a
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dedicated family man. >> the hardest part for me is to tell that this whole time, 2.5 years, that i thought i could have been the only woman and the only reason why, you know, we didn't hang out as much would be that he was busy and to go back and think that, you know, his reasons for being busy may have been another woman. it is really hard. >> eccenture is dropping him, basically saying he's not the best representative for their advertising. >> goes on his yacht, the privacy, while the remains of tiger woods still remain unknown tonight. >> senior editor of in touch weekly. department of family and children services reportedly showing up at woods' multi-million-dollar compound flanked by police. what happened? >> they arrived on friday with an orange county sheriff to investigate this claim that --
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we hear, nancy, it involves an incident with a weapon. there are other reports that it may have been a golf club. we don't know, that's unconfirmed. >> tom o'neal -- put o'neal back up. tom o'neal, in aggravated vault, even murder cases, a weapon doesn't have to be a knife or a gun. a weapon could be a golf club, it could be fists, it could be feet, it could be a car, anything that is used as a weapon, weaponlike, can be deemed a weapon under the law. please go ahead, mr. o'neal. >> and this could also be a frivolous complaint, we don't know that. the golf club accusation is what was at the heart of the thanksgiving blow-up that caused this whole thing. all we know is the child services group is calling this a well-being check where they go in the home, separate the family members, talk to everybody and get their side of the story. we don't know the full side of the story, nancy. >> i've got a tiny problem with your scenario. it's not your fault, tom o'neal,
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with in touch weekly. we're taking your calls live tonight. we have reports that department of family and children services has pulled up flanked by police to tiger woods' multi-million-dollar compound. eleanor, jason, defense attorney in the newark, new jersey area. eleanor, if this is over the same incident where allegedly someone is brandishing a golf club, aren't they a day late and a dollar short? >> it sure is, nancy, because it's a crime if you have an aggravated assault or some type of assault in front of the children, that's a crime in itself. >> what do you think, crime analyst is this. >> they're a little late, nancy, but at least they showed up. >> let's go out to the lines in orlando and utah.
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hi, dear. >> caller: hi, nancy, how are you? >> i'm good. what's your question? >> caller: if i understand correctly, don't they have a pre nup? >> yes. >> doesn't adultery automatically make that pre-nup null and void so she can get a reward for the pain and suffering she is enduring? >> that's what i keep telling the lawyers, and they keep telling me that infidelity isn't often addressed in a pre-nup because they don't want the pre-nup to be defeated. so often they don't have a clause that says, hey, if i fool around, i owe you $50 million. but let's go to the lawyers. jason oceans, it seems to me you go into a marriage with good fate. do you sign this pre-nup, and then suddenly, let's just say your husband has 14 affairs with
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everybody from a porn star to a waitress at the pancake house. okay? >> right. >> to me that would crack the pre-nup. >> it depends. as you eloquently stated, what's in the agreement? nobody wants to put that specific act, which, of course, is a ground automatically for divorce in most states to allege adultery, so i don't think anyone contemplating that type of pre-nup wants to put that in, as you did state. >> these were just taken in the last hours. you see his wife, elin, nordegren, without that huge, humongous diamond ring. peter, with your experience in divorce law, that's typically the first sign of divorce, people start taking off the rings. >> that's true, and we're hearing rumors they're start to go buy a castle in europe and make plans to move there, so this could very well be the beginning of the end. >> put odom up. peter odom, they're not starting to buy a castle in europe.
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elin nordegren has closed on a castle on an island off the north coast. i don't know if he, tiger woods, is part of that purchase, but let's go to alexis with radaronline.com. alexis, what can you tell me about reports that moving vans have pulled up to the compound in florida, packed up, left, now we see boxes being loaded onto woods' multi-million-dollar yacht, the privacy? >> nancy, that has happened. a moving van did pull up in front of tiger's home. they moved out lots of boxes. we didn't see either tiger or elin, but she does have the home. tiger's plane landed today in her home country of sweden and the boat seems to be moving things, too. >> ellie, yet another woman has decided to go public, and she goes on and on about all the
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pain she's worried about she's causing the wife of elin nordegren, then why the heck did she go on the today show to announce if she's so worried? take a look, ellie. >> what was he telling you? >> just that his marriage was on the rocks and there was a baby on the way and he had to uphold this image and stick it out for now and things were not good at home. >> and what made you realize then that he wasn't being true to his word that that -- he wasn't going to leave his wife? >> the media. i started seeing them out and the pictures being printed, and i just -- then i didn't believe it and i also would wake up in the night and he would be texting, you know, in the middle of the night, and i would ask who he was texting and he would say checking e-mails, and i just had that feeling that this was something bigger. >> so you started realizing at that point with the texts and everything that perhaps he was having relationships with multiple women? >> that's correct. i'm not the party girl that
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they're claiming that i am. i do go out with my girlfriends and have fun, but i'm not like most of these girls. and i'm not judging them, by any means. i'm not putting anybody down, but i'm a mom and i'm a stay-at-home mom, and i've worked hard and i've tried to set the right example by my son. >> has this been hard for you and your son? >> yeah. >> how? what is your son hearing? >> he saw the horrible things. you know, he has to face -- he's suffered a lot of consequences from this. and i've had to explain to him the mistakes that i've made. it's been very tough. you know, on all my family as well. i don't think anybody wants to see their daughter or granddaughter in this situation. >> do you feel that you're to blame for that?
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>> yeah. >> what about elin's family, lady? you're the one that shacked up. that's corey rist, tiger woods' alleged mistress, crying on "the today show."
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hey, it's tiger. i need you to do me a huge favor. my wife looked through my phone and knows i've been calling you. >> it was an auto accident, yes. >> i did feel guilty that, you know, he was spending his time with somebody, you know, that isn't his wife. it's just the way he was.
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>> he's been incredibly gracious with the media. he's never not committed himself to the media and he's been great. he makes one mistake and they rat all over the guy. >> you were seeing video of tiger woods' caddy, steve williams, from nbc's "today show." i want you to take a listen to women who are now coming forward and whining and crying about all the pain they have caused elin nordegren. then why don't they keep their pieholes shut and go home and take care of their family instead of compounding the pain by yacking about it? take a listen. >> what was he telling you? >> just that his marriage was on the rocks and there was a baby on the way and he had to uphold this image and stick it out for now, and things were not good at home. >> what made you realize, then, that he wasn't being true to his word that he wasn't going to
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leave his wife? >> the media. i started seeing them out and the pictures being printed. then i didn't believe it and then i would also wake up in the middle of the night and he would be texting in the middle of the night, and i would ask who he would be texting and he would say checking e-mails. and i just started realizing this was something bigger. >> so you started realizing with the texts and everything that perhaps he was having relationships with multiple women? >> that's correct. i'm not the party girl they're claiming i am. i do go out with my girlfriends and have fun, but i'm not like most of these girls. i'm not judging them by any means, i'm not putting anybody down, but i'm a mom, and i'm a stay-at-home mom, and i've tried to set an example for my son. >> has this been hard for you and your son? >> yeah. >> how? what is your son hearing? >> just all the horrible things. you know, he has to face a lot
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of -- he's suffered a lot of consequences from this. and i've had to explain to him the mistakes that i've made. so it has, it's been very tough. on my family as well. i don't think anybody wants to see their daughter or granddaughter in this situation. so it's been hard. >> do you feel you are to blame for that? >> yeah. >> did he ever talk to you about his wife? ever mention her? >> no. the one time that his wife was mentioned was the first day that i met him and that we hung out, and i'm the one that asked him about her. >> you actually, from what i understand, spent time in their home in los angeles as well. >> i did. >> when she wasn't there, obviously. >> yes. yeah, this happened probably a month after we had been seeing each other. he flew me out, came and picked
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me up at the airport, and i stayed there for a night. >> spent time in the family home? that's certainly putting the perfume on the pig. you just saw tiger woods' alleged mistress, corey rist and jamie junger on "today" show. she's a fine journalist. she certainly cut tiger woods some slack when she said you spent time in the woods' mansion? i don't know if that's really a correct description of what they did in tiger woods' mansion, according to rist. 
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do you think that tiger is a sex addict? >> the man that i knew, the tiger that i knew, i would never think that. it was never about that. he never just said come over, and that's what was going to happen. >> it wasn't one woman, it wasn't two, we think the number is up to 13. >> if these women are to be believed, the relationship with tiger woods would go on for a couple years. how he whined about being married to his wife and wished he had met them before he got married. what is that? there's got to be a medical
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term. >> they delude themselves into thinking someday they'll be the only one, that they'll replace the wife. i do not for one second believe he had real relationships with these women. >> his wife and two little children, they're the real victims in all of this. >> generally right now they are trying to work things out. some people are saying, though, it's not necessarily going in his favor. she's kind of wavering in her feelings. >> people like certainty, and right now tiger is an uncertainty, and that's not good for himself, his brand or his golf game. >> do you think tiger is a sex addict? >> the man that i knew, the tiger that i knew, i would never think that. it was never about that. he never, you know, just kind of said come over and that's what's going to happen. so, i mean, the person that i knew, i would say no. >> we have just obtained some
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sound and interview with tiger woods himself. take a listen. >> this is the man who had it all. >> it's been the best thing that ever happened. >> fame, fortune and family. a man unaware that very soon fate would make his answers sound like lies. >> be watching! >> tiger woods, tuesday, exclusive. >> that was part of an interview with tiger woods on sky tv just one month before this scandal erupted, and he is talking about his family being his priority. he seems truthful despite his alleged extramarital affairs. we are taking your calls live out to janet in georgia. hi, janet. >> caller: hi, missy. why is the news media glorifying these classless, self-centered women with obviously no morals,
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self-respect nor integrity? >> hold on, hold on, hold on. janet, what do you mean by glorifying them? >> caller: they're showing their faces, they're interviewing them, and if i were them, i would hide my face. i would be so humiliated for everyone to know that i had had anadulterous affair with a married man with two beautiful kids. >> another thing, eleanor, one of them actually said, well, i'm not like all the others. >> and clearly, nancy, we see it's the same pattern again and again where each person thinks they're the only one and that they'll be the one with tiger. >> there are now reports that porn purveyors have offered a cool $1 million to any of these 14 alleged mistresses of tiger woods to star in a porn flick.
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i could kind of see it right now out to you, peter odom, jason, ellen odom. she'll come out to the scene, and it will be on a golf course. if they make that scenario happen in a porn video, jason oceans, would tiger woods have the right to get an injunction to stop it or to sue? >> i don't know how he'd have that ability if a consenting adult were involved in the porn industry. >> because it would clearly be about him. >> you wouldn't use his name, you would make everything seem just -- >> jason oceans, you don't have to name an individual. for instance, i don't have to say michael jackson, all i have to do is put on one glove and dance like nobody else in the universe ever could. >> that's why tiger would have no basis to sue as long as you didn't use his name, but all of
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us would know exactly who it was. >> i understand. now, let me ask you this, jason oceans. i think i got you over the barrel. isn't the truth a complete defense? >> well, we're talking something published or slanderous as opposed to some sort of spoof porn movie? >> what would be his claim in a lawsuit? you just said we could sue. >> i did not say you could sue, i said he would have no basis to sue as long as you did not use his name. >> okay, that doesn't make sense, because you don't have to use his name for him to be identifiable. >> the question was, would he have a basis to sue? there would be no reason for him legally to get one. none. >> agree, peter odom? >> portraying someone or using their image or name in a very unfavorable, flattering situation that is not true, such as a porn movie with tiger woods, could be what's called
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false defamation. as you said, nancy, truth is a complete defense to defamation. >> i'm not suggesting it, peter odom, i'm telling you flat out, point blank, the truth is a complete defense. and also, jason oceans, there is the issue of him being a public figure. you can make a lot more fun and say all sorts of nasty things about somebody if they're a public figure. i'm talking about the president, i'm talking about the vice president, i'm talking about celebrities, people on tv, tiger woods. you can say all kinds of nasty things about them, true or not true, and get away with it. that's the state of the law. yes or no, eleanor? >> yes, you're right. think about shows like saturday night live that parody these stars all the time and get away with it. >> betty is on the line. hello, betty. >> caller: hello, nancy. my question is, are they really separating and is she moving,
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and these women make me sick. they make decent women look bad. >> seeing as how i'm not a saint and nobody has ever accused me of being a saint, i'm not going to come down on these women. except the ones that get on tv and cry about how much they've been hurt. but they don't have a duty to anybody. tiger woods is the one that had a duty to his wife and his children. to tom o'neal. what about it, tom o'neal. this one is on you. >> i think they're going to get back together. >> does that mean you're saying they're split up? >> i think that's pretty clear. just yesterday she was seen driving around orlando without the wedding ring on in -- >> i was driving around today with the kids in the back of the car without my wedding band on. do you think i'm going to leave this in the playstation of mcdonald's. it didn't mean a thing. >> she was going to a party obviously without tiger, but we don't know what the upshot is
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here, but tiger's view was kpleerl revealed on the web site on friday when he said what he wants is to be a better husband, a better father and wants a safe haven for privacy for healing. >> please pause, please pause. i don't want to rain on your parade, but it was just about a month ago he said family first in that interview on sky tv? >> are they split up or are those moving boxes, because they're both going to board that yacht with their kids and take off. >> you heard tiger say he wants to spend more time with her, but from everything we're hearing, she's not very happy. she's working on a different settlement, she's perhaps talking to divorce lawyers. she is definitely mad about everything that's going on, and i don't think you can rule out the fact they're not going to be together. >> pd crime analyst, cheryl, this morning on the today show,
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an alleged mistress, corey rist, the one that was crying, said she had a very long affair with woods. a lot of these women are claiming two- and three-year relationships with him, some in the family home. how difficult will that be for a divorce lawyer to prove after they hire a fleet of investigators like you? >> it's not going to be hard at all. again, we've got text messages, we've got voicemails. she's going to have possibly photographs of him on her cell phone. it's not going to be difficult. >> to you, ellie, we got word banning anybody from publishing photos. has that domesticated in the u.s.? >> no, that order hasn't been domesticated. we don't know of any photographs, but if you even fake a picture and try to say it's tiger, we'll go after you. >> we're taking your calls live,
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but as we go to break, a very special happy birthday to the most beautiful woman in the world to me. happy birthday, mother.
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infidelity appears to be what tiger has done. >> in the symptom, the character of the person who is cheating. >> there seems to be real
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relationships as you reed these text messages. these weren't just ships in the night. he really got emotionally involved with these women. >> i did put, you know, a lot of emotion into this, and i did care very much for him, and when we were together, he did make me feel like i was the only girl. so to go back and see, i mean, especially now when there's more and more. >> reports emerging that tiger woods had one of these women in the family home the night his beloved father died. now, how many of us have tuned in at the end of a golf championship to see tiger woods walk up to his father and hug him? you wait the whole tournament to see the hug at the end. and then how poignant that first tournament where tiger woods walked the last hole alone.
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ellie jostad, what happened? >> nancy, one of the alleged mistresses says on may 2006, the night that tiger's father was dying of prostate cancer, she said she was in the house with him in california. when he got the call from his mother, he went to a hospice, stayed there about three hours with his father, came home and they had sex as usual, and a while later, tiger's mother called and informed him his father had passed away. >> what more do you know? >> when the phone call came in from his mother, the father had just died. shes she said, i was just lying there in a pair of panties. this is not what you would expect from a man who loved his father. >> alexis? >> jamie junger said she was in
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love with him. that was her excuse. where was his wife? she was with the man who said he loved her. >> take a look at one of the women who appeared on the today show this morning. this is corey rist. >> i'm not the party girl they're claiming i am. i do go out with my girlfriends and have fun, but i'm not like most of these girls. i'm not judging them by any means, i'm not putting anybody down, but i'm a mom, i'm a stay-at-home mom and i've tried to make the best example for my son. >> has this been hard on you and your son? >> yeah. >> how so? what has your son been hearing? >> just all the horrible things. he has to face a lot of -- he's
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suffered a lot of consequences from this. and i've had to explain to him the mistakes that i've made. so it's been very tough. you know, and on my family as well. i don't think anybody -- >> well, if they didn't know it was you before, all those kids you're worried about on the playground, they know now because you were on the today show this morning. alleged mistress cori rist, a couple hours ago. and here's the young lady, jamie jungers, who claims she was sacked up in the family mansion the night woods gets a call that his father is slipping away. he leaves to go to the hospice three hours, comes back. according to sources, has sex, they get a call, the father is
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dead. here she is. >> did he ever talk to you about his wife? ever mention her? >> no. the one time that his wife was mentioned was the first day that i met him and that we hung out, and i'm the one that asked him about her. >> you actually, from what i understand, spent time in their home in los angeles as well? >> yes. >> when she wasn't there, obviously. >> yes. yeah, this happened probably a month after we had been seeing each other. >> that is jamie jungers, the alleged mistress of woods on the today show who claimed she was slung up with woods the day his father passed away. professor of public health and johns hopkins, dr. camccarey. as always, it's an honor to have you with us. dr. mccarey, i'm still tied up on family and child services going to the woods' home
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following reports of alleged assault in front of the children. is there a doctor involved in that? >> a doctor will often tip off child services to go to a family home. anything suspicious will get reported to them, and these teams will go to the home and try to do individual interviews based on a tip-off. and we've had situations in all directions. >> and dr. mccarey, could you explain to me, could you look at his injuries and tell if they were from a car crash or if he got bashed in the head with a golf club? >> actually, oftentimes you can. car crash impacts are high velocity impacts from directly straight and in the front, where as domestic dispute injuries are often from the side or the back. oftentimes you can tell the difference. >> what about it, eleanor dixon? >> i agree, nancy, it's important to have that kind of physical evidence, especially in a domestic violence case.
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those injuries can tell the story. >> everybody, as we go to the break, our thoughts and prayers go to i fan of the show, filomena, please, stay strong. >> did you think he had a problem or that there was something going on or that he needed prescription drugs to help him sleep? >> i mean, he is a world renowned athlete, and i'm sure he's -- he has so much on his mind and i couldn't imagine it ever being put to sleep, but he very much does have a sleeping problem, you know, whether it's insomnia caused by stress or whatever it may be. >> do you think he has an addiction to painkillers or sleeping pills? >> that's something that i wouldn't be able to, you know, say. i tried to just view o-- our tet
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messages were fewer and far between. he did physically come out for five days and texted me every day and said come out and meet me. i miss you and i didn't do it. i'm not going to do that anymore. >> did you love tiger? >> i did never say that i loved him. i wouldn't let myself get that far.
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breaking news, the florida department of children and families reportedly paid a visit to the woods' home after they received word there was an alleged domestic incident in front of the kids. dcf won't comment on their possible involvement with the woods' family, but police confirmed they did assist a dcf visit to the subdivision of woods' exclusive gated community. >> tiger woods has lost his first big-name sponsor since admitting to cheating on his wife, global consulting firm accenture. >> the story was not the way i wanted to end things or say
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good-bye but it's my closure, just kind of this was a man i cared about. this is a man i spent two and a half years with. >> we are taking your calls. to millie in connecticut. hi, millie. >> caller: hi, nancy, how are you? >> i'm good, dear. what's your question. >> caller: i'm wondering, is it possible that when they were arguing in the house and tiger was leaving to get in the escalade and she ran after him with a 9 iron and hit that car back window, could it have been that he got out of the car to stop her and the car just continued going backwards? >> well, here's the issue with that. well, hold on, hold on. to you, el y jostad, are we sur she pulled him out of the car? when the witnesses already arrived wasn't he already out of the car? >> the neighbors got there and said he was already lying on the ground, as a matter of fact. >> you know what, ely, it still could happen the way millie -- the way millie is proposing it
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because he was where the car had stopped. >> mm-hmm. >> he wasn't like up to here and the car kept going. >> right. >> he was beside the car with elin nordegren and a golf cart, yes, know? >> yes, you're right. >> got it. >> to lauren in pennsylvania, hi, dear. >> caller: hi, nancy. my question is was cps able to gain entry into the home because in my community you need warrant to gain entry? >> to alexis with radaronline.com. did they get into the home? >> nancy, they got to the home, but they did not speak with the people that they wanted to speak with, tiger and eli. >> why? >> my understanding is that they -- they were not there so it was negative contact is the way that they wrote it in that report that we have. >> they weren't turned away. they just weren't home. >> correct. >> okay. everybody, let's stop and remember army private first class brian holden, 20,
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claremont, north carolina, killed iraq. awarded the bronze star, purple heart, national defense service medal, also served kuwait, had a smile that lit up a room, loved the outdoors, loved rock music. favorite foods, spaghetti and his grandmother's biscuits and gravy. dreamed of buying a house and starting a family. leaves behind a grieving and loving family. brian holden, american hero. thank you to our guests but especially to you for being with us tonight and a special happy birthday to one of our superstars, yankees fan rachel. there she is. happy birthday, rachel. everyone, i'll see you tomorrow night 8:00 sharp even. until then, good night, friend.
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