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tv   Nancy Grace  HLN  January 3, 2010 10:00pm-11:00pm EST

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breaking news tonight. superstar golf phenomena tiger woods drives out of the
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compound, barefoot, 2:00 a.m. after thanksgiving day. celebrations and has a head-on collision with a tree and a fire hydrant. his young wife, the mother of his two children reportedly hears the crash from inside the house, runs out, and beats out both back windows of woods' cadillac. woods refusing to speak to please, not once, not twice, but three times. why? why did a neighbor have to call 911. we have the 911 call. woods pulling out of his own golf tournament as rumors of an alleged affair between tiger woods and a nightclub host is hit the newsstands just hours before the so-called crash. tiger woods finds himself in a pr bunker. in front of the children. in the last hours, woods' wife spotted without heifer wedding
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ring. the woman tally is at 14. tiger woods sacked up one of these women at the family home. and he packs up and leaving. and then boxes arrive on the million dollar yacht, the privacy, on the heels of woods taking an indefinite lead from golf. and tonight, pornpurveyors. what reallied happen d to tiger?
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breaking news, florida department of child and family services arrived at the home. >> tiger lost the big name sponsor the decision to 31-year-old single mom knew she
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was married and stayed with him because he got her pregnant out on the town. areportedly after reportedly investigating tiger and elin woods. radaronline saying that they made a visit to the woods' home on friday. >> he made an announcement he's taking an indefinite break from golf. >> elin woods finally spotted running errands without her wedding ring.
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. the hardest part for me is knowing that why he didn't hang out as much is because he's busy. to go back and think that the reasons for being busy may have been another woman is really hard. >> straight out to in touch weekly, tonight on the legal front, defects of department of children and family services showing up at the compound flanked by police.
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what happened? >> tom o'neil, even in murder cases, a weapon -- i mean, use your mind, tom, it doesn't have to be a golf club. it can be fists, thieves, and under the law. and don't know because the golf club accusation and calling us and where they go into the home and separate members and get their side of the story.
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and it's not your fault, and department of of family services and atlanta jurisdiction. and prosecutor, also in atlanta, eleanor f. this is over and absolutely. if they are a little late, at least they showed up and i have
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a question, and are they having, and in the public athey keep telling me, that infidelity, very often, is not addressed in the prenup and they don't want it to be defeated. they don't have a clause that says and and go into a marriage in good fate and sign the prenup
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and that would and they managed to put that in. >> take a look at these shots. and in these hours, and without that huge, humongous diamond ring. and they are starting to and very well could be the beginning of the end and a hassle in
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europe and and from alexis and multimillion dollar yacht, the privacy. >> what happened, the moving van moved out lots of boxes. we found out and both tend to be leaving soon. to ellie, and worried about elin
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and we're going to take a listen, ellie. and a baby on the way. and things are not good at home real estate and he wasn't being treated. that wasn't going to is it and i did and i just -- i couldn't believe it. and and texting and adjust had that feeling that it was something bigger. so you started realizing. that there were relationships with multiple women?
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>> that's correct. and and and what does your and you know he has to face a lot of and they the granddaughter in a situation. do you feel that for that.
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>> and you're the one and
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>> oh, my god. >> my neighborhood gore borrow, he hit the tree. >> can you tell if he's breathing? >> no, i can't tell right now.
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>> that's just the way he was. >> and i want you to take a listen to women that are now coming forward and wining and crying and instead of compounding and reacting about it. >> there was a baby on the way
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and he had to uphold this image and stick it out for now and things were not good at home. >> i started seeing them out in the pictures and printed and then i didn't believe it and i would be texting in the middle of the night and i would ask who he was texting he and perhaps he was having relationships with nult pel and not the party girl claiming that i am. and for you and your son? >> how? >> i mean, what does your son
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hear? >> he's suffering a lot of cons consequences from this and i've had to explain to him the mistakes that i've made. >>. >> do you feel you're to blame? >> did they ever talk to you about his wife, ever mention her? >> no. the one time that his wife was mentioned was the first day that i let him and we hung out and i asked him about her. >> are you actually, from what i understand, spent time in their
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home in los angeles. >> yes. and this happened a month after we had been seeing each other. and he flew me out, came owe picked me up at the airport and i stayed there for a night. >> spent time in the family home? there's certainly putting the perfume on the pig. she certainly is a fine journalist. she said she spent time in the woods' mansion. i don't know if that's really a correct description of what they did. in tiger woods' mansion, according to risk.
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do you think that tiger is a sex addict? >> the man that i knew, the tiger that i knew, i would never think that. it was never about that. he never just said come over, and that's what was going to happen. >> it wasn't one woman, it is up to 13. believed, the relationship with tiger woods would go on for a couple years. how he whined about being married to his wife and wished
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he had met them before he got married. what is that? there's got to be a medical term. >> they delude themselves into thinking someday they'll be the only one, that they'll replace the wife. i do not for one second believe he had real relationships with these women. >> his wife and two little children, they're the real victims in all of this. >> generally right now they are trying to work things out. some people are saying, though, it's not necessarily going in his favor. she's kind of wavering in her feelings. >> people like certainty, and right now tiger is an uncertainty, and that's not good for himself, his brand or his golf game. >> do you think tiger is a sex addict? >> the man that i knew, the tiger that i knew, i would never think that. it was never about that. he never, you know, just kind of said come over and that's what's going to happen. so, i mean, the person that i knew, i would say no. >> we have just obtained some sound and interview with tiger
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woods himself. take a listen. >> this is the man who had it all. >> it's been the best thing that ever happened. >> fame, fortune and family. a man unaware that very soon fate would make his answers sound like lies. >> be watching! >> tiger woods, tuesday, exclusive. >> that was part of an interview with tiger woods on sky tv just one month before this scandal erupted, and he is talking about his family being his priority. he seems truthful despite his alleged extramarital affairs. we are taking your calls live out to janet in georgia. hi, janet. >> caller: hi, missy. why is the news media glorifying these classless, self-centered women with obviously no morals, self-respect nor integrity? >> hold on, hold on, hold on. janet, what do you mean by glorifying them? >> caller: they're showing their
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faces, they're interviewing them, and if i were them, i would hide my face. i would be so humiliated for everyone to know that i had had an adulterous affair with a married man with two beautiful kids. >> another thing, eleanor, one of them actually said, well, i'm not like all the others. >> and clearly, nancy, we see it's the same pattern again and again where each person thinks they're the only one and that they'll be the one with tiger. >> there are now reports that porn purveyors have offered a cool $1 million to any of these 14 alleged mistresses of tiger woods to star in a porn flick. i could kind of see it right now out to you, peter odom, jason, ellen odom. she'll come out to the scene, and it will be on a golf course. if they make that scenario happen in a porn video, jason oceans, would tiger woods have the right to get an injunction to stop it or to sue? >> i don't know how he'd have that ability if a consenting adult were involved in the porn industry. >> because it would clearly be about him. >> you wouldn't use his name, you would make everything seem just -- >> jason oceans, you don't have to name an individual. for instance, i don't have to say michael jackson, all i have to do is put on one glove and dance like nobody else in the universe ever could. >> that's why tiger would have no basis to sue as long as you
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if they make that scenario happen in a porn video, jason oceans, would tiger woods have the right to get an injunction to stop it or to sue? >> i don't know how he'd have that ability if a consenting adult were involved in the porn industry. >> because it would clearly be about him. >> you wouldn't use his name, you would make everything seem just -- >> jason oceans, you don't have to name an individual. for instance, i don't have to say michael jackson, all i have to do is put on one glove and dance like nobody else in the universe ever could. >> that's why tiger would have no basis to sue as long as you didn't use his name, but all of us would know exactly who it was. >> i understand. now, let me ask you this, jason oceans.
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i think i got you over the barrel. isn't the truth a complete defense? >> well, we're talking something published or slanderous as opposed to some sort of spoof porn movie? >> what would be his claim in a lawsuit? you just said we could sue. >> i did not say you could sue, i said he would have no basis to sue as long as you did not use his name. >> okay, that doesn't make sense, because you don't have to use his name for him to be identifiable. >> the question was, would he have a basis to sue? there would be no reason for him legally to get one. none. >> agree, peter odom? >> portraying someone or using their image or name in a very unfavorable, flattering situation that is not true, such as a porn movie with tiger woods, could be what's called false defamation. as you said, nancy, truth is a complete defense to defamation. >> i'm not suggesting it, peter odom, i'm telling you flat out, point blank, the truth is a complete defense. and also, jason oceans, there is the issue of him being a public figure. you can make a lot more fun and say all sorts of nasty things about somebody if they're a public figure. i'm talking about the president, situation that is not true, such as a porn movie with tiger
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woods, could be what's called false defamation. as you said, nancy, truth is a complete defense to defamation. >> i'm not suggesting it, peter odom, i'm telling you flat out, point blank, the truth is a complete defense. and also, jason oceans, there is the issue of him being a public figure. you can make a lot more fun and say all sorts of nasty things about somebody if they're a public figure. i'm talking about the president, i'm talking about the vice president, i'm talking about celebrities, people on tv, tiger woods. you can say all kinds of nasty things about them, true or not true, and get away with it. that's the state of the law. yes or no, eleanor? >> yes, you're right. think about shows like saturday night live that parody these stars all the time and get away with it. >> betty is on the line. i'm talking about the vice president, i'm talking about celebrities, people on tv, tiger woods. you can say all kinds of nasty things about them, true or not true, and get away with it. that's the state of the law. yes or no, eleanor? >> yes, you're right. think about shows like saturday night live that parody these stars all the time and get away with it. >> betty is on the line. hello, betty. >> caller: hello, nancy. my question is, are they really separating and is she moving,
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and these women make me sick. they make decent women look bad. >> seeing as how i'm not a saint and nobody has ever accused me of being a saint, i'm not going to come down on these women. except the ones that get on tv and cry about how much they've been hurt. but they don't have a duty to anybody. tiger woods is the one that had a duty to his wife and his children. to tom o'neal. what about it, tom o'neal. this one is on you. >> i think they're going to get back together. >> does that mean you're saying they're split up? >> i think that's pretty clear. just yesterday she was seen driving around orlando without the wedding ring on in -- >> i was driving around today with the kids in the back of the car without my wedding band on. do you think i'm going to leave this in the playstation of mcdonald's. it didn't mean a thing. >> she was going to a party obviously without tiger, but we don't know what the upshot is here, but tiger's view was kpleerl revealed on the web site on friday when he said what he wants is to be a better husband, a better father and wants a safe haven for privacy for healing.
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>> please pause, please pause. i don't want to rain on your parade, but it was just about a month ago he said family first in that interview on sky tv? >> are they split up or are those moving boxes, because they're both going to board that yacht with their kids and take off. >> you heard tiger say he wants to spend more time with her, but from everything we're hearing, she's not very happy. she's working on a different settlement, she's perhaps talking to divorce lawyers. she is definitely mad about everything that's going on, and i don't think you can rule out the fact they're not going to be together. >> pd crime analyst, cheryl, this morning on the today show, an alleged mistress, corey rist, the one that was crying, said she had a very long affair with woods. a lot of these women are claiming two- and three-year relationships with him, some in the family home. how difficult will that be for a divorce lawyer to prove after they hire a fleet of investigators like you? >> it's not going to be hard at all. again, we've got text messages, we've got voicemails. she's going to have possibly photographs of him on her cell phone. it's not going to be difficult.
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>> to you, ellie, we got word banning anybody from publishing photos. has that domesticated in the u.s.? >> no, that order hasn't been domesticated. we don't know of any photographs, but if you even fake a picture and try to say it's tiger, we'll go after you. >> we're taking your calls live, but as we go to break, a very special happy birthday to the most beautiful woman in the world to me. happy birthday, mother. infidelity appears to be what tiger has done. >> in the symptom, the character of the person who is cheating.
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infidelity appears to be what tiger has done. >> in the symptom, the character of the person who is cheating. >> there seems to be real relationships as you reed these text messages. these weren't just ships in the night. he really got emotionally involved with these women. >> i did put, you know, a lot of emotion into this, and i did care very much for him, and when we were together, he did make me feel like i was the only girl. so to go back and see, i mean, especially now when there's more
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and more. >> reports emerging that tiger woods had one of these women in the family home the night his beloved father died. now, how many of us have tuned in at the end of a golf championship to see tiger woods walk up to his father and hug him? you wait the whole tournament to see the hug at the end. and then how poignant that first tournament where tiger woods walked the last hole alone. ellie jostad, what happened? >> nancy, one of the alleged mistresses says on may 2006, the night that tiger's father was dying of prostate cancer, she said she was in the house with him in california. when he got the call from his mother, he went to a hospice, stayed there about three hours with his father, came home and they had sex as usual, and a while later, tiger's mother called and informed him his father had passed away. >> what more do you know? >> when the phone call came in from his mother, the father had
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just died. she said, i was just lying there in a pair of panties. this is not what you would expect from a man who loved his father. >> alexis? >> jamie junger said she was in love with him. that was her excuse. where was his wife? she was with the man who said he loved her. >> take a look at one of the women who appeared on the today show this morning. this is corey rist.
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>> i'm not the party girl they're claiming i am. i do go out with my girlfriends and have fun, but i'm not like most of these girls. i'm not judging them by any means, i'm not putting anybody down, but i'm a mom, i'm a stay-at-home mom and i've tried to make the best example for my son. >> has this been hard on you and your son?
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>> yeah. >> how so? what has your son been hearing? >> just all the horrible things. he has to face a lot of -- he's suffered a lot of consequences from this. and i've had to explain to him the mistakes that i've made. so it's been very tough. you know, and on my family as well. i don't think anybody -- >> well, if they didn't know it was you before, all those kids you're worried about on the playground, they know now because you were on the today show this morning. alleged mistress cori rist, a couple hours ago. and here's the young lady, jamie jungers, who claims she was sacked up in the family mansion the night woods gets a call that his father is slipping away. he leaves to go to the hospice three hours, comes back. according to sources, has sex, they get a call, the father is dead. here she is. >> did he ever talk to you about
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his wife? ever mention her? >> no. the one time that his wife was mentioned was the first day that i met him and that we hung out, and i'm the one that asked him about her. >> you actually, from what i understand, spent time in their home in los angeles as well? >> yes. >> when she wasn't there, obviously. >> yes. yeah, this happened probably a month after we had been seeing each other. >> that is jamie jungers, the alleged mistress of woods on the today show who claimed she was slung up with woods the day his father passed away. professor of public health and johns hopkins, dr. mccarey. as always, it's an honor to have you with us. dr. mccarey, i'm still tied up on family and child services going to the woods' home following reports of alleged assault in front of the children. is there a doctor involved in that?
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>> a doctor will often tip off child services to go to a family home. anything suspicious will get reported to them, and these teams will go to the home and try to do individual interviews based on a tip-off. and we've had situations in all directions. >> and dr. mccarey, could you explain to me, could you look at his injuries and tell if they were from a car crash or if he got bashed in the head with a golf club? >> actually, oftentimes you can. car crash impacts are high velocity impacts from directly straight and in the front, where as domestic dispute injuries are often from the side or the back. oftentimes you can tell the difference. >> what about it, eleanor dixon? >> i agree, nancy, it's
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important to have that kind of physical evidence, especially in a domestic violence case. those injuries can tell the story. >> everybody, as we go to the break, our thoughts and prayers go to i fan of the show, filomena. she is recovering from extensive hip surgery. filomena, please, stay strong. 96 years old. please, stay strong. do you think that was a problem? do you think that there was something going on or that he needed prescription drugs to sleep? >> he a world renowned athlete and i am sure he has so much on his mind that i can't imagine it ever being put to sleep, but he very much does have a sleeping problem, you know, whether it is insomnia caused by stress or whatever it may be, i don't know. >> do you think that he has an addiction to painkillers or sleeping pills? >> that is something they wouldn't be able to, you know, say. i tried to just fewer text message and far in between and phone calls, and there was a time when he did come out and physically came out for five
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days, and he texted me everyday and said, meet up with me, i want to see you, i miss you. i didn't do it. i said, i'm not going to do that anymore. >> did you love tiger? >> i didn't ever say that i loved him and i would not let myself get that far.
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