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tv   Nancy Grace  HLN  February 2, 2010 8:00pm-9:00pm EST

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breaking news tonight -- satsuma, florida. a 5-year-old girl tucked into bed. five hours later, she's gone. daddy comes home from the night shift to find not a trace of little haleigh. last person to see her alive? new stepmother, 18-year-old misty croslin who takes to the airwaves to claim she's innocent. but even in one brief interview croslin can't keep her story straight, including a 180 on a lie detector. she flunked.
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bombshell tonight -- after haleigh's father ronald cummings and babysitter-turned-stepmother misty croslin, both arrested, booked. cummings talks first and tonight we learn stepmother misty croslin does the same. as we go to air, we discover jailhouse tapes, video and audio, hours and hours of misty croslin yak, yak, yaking away, including an hour-long visit with mommy and daddy, all caught on video. croslin already cracking behind bars, ratting out her own brother on a felony. police convinced croslin the key in haleigh's disappearance. and after 12 days in isolation, little haleigh's dad moved to another facility. but why?
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tonight -- or as the pressure mounts, where is the 5-year-old girl with the big brown eyes? where is haleigh? >> reporter: jailhouse recording set to be released any moment. misty croslin and her relatives, up to five hours of tape set to be released. what clues could they contain? >> let me ask you one thing. what's your relationship with misty? >> you um, there really isn't a relationship, you know, just i guess ex-wife slash friend. >> reporter: if convicted on all six drug charges, misty could be looking at a 150-year prison sentence. lawyers say if she knows anything about what happened to haleigh, now might be a good time to talk. >> i've been the one, the
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focus. they need to move on and look for the right person. >> if i find whoever has my daughter before y'all will do, i'm killing him. i don't care. i'll spend the rest of my life in prison. i'm telling you. you can put it on recording. same thing i said on the 911 call. okay. well, i just want to know. i'm not telling you i'm not changing my mind. >> when i went to sleep she was there. when i woke up she was gone. >> reporter: even though law enforcement claims misty croslin won't admit what she knows about haleigh, croslin squeals on her own brother. she tells cops he stole items including a 12-gauge shotgun, alcohol, a bottle of softsoap, two bottles of dawn dish liquid and "harry potter" dvds. he could be facing life in prison, new charges of blurry and theft. >> good evening. i'm nancy grace. i want to thank you for being with us. bombshell tonight --
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after haleigh's father ronald cummings and baby sitter turned stepmother misty croslin both hand kufd, arrested, booked, cummings talks first. and tonight we learn stepmother misty croslin does the same. as we go to air, we discover jailhouse tapes, video and audio, hours of misty croslin yaking away, including an hour-long visit with mommy and daddy. all caught on video. >> reporter: law enforcement expected to release jailhouse recordings of misty croslin from behind bars, the tapes said to include extensive conversations between misty croslin and her parents. did misty know law enforcement was rolling? what details might she divulge? >> it's well over $2,000 in pills that police say misty cummings and her crew were selling. according to these police
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reports, misty told the undercover officer that she was freaked out because it's a lot of money, it's a lot of pills, and she didn't want to get into trouble. but she did. she's sitting in jail. investigators have her on drug charges. could they use this case as leverage with the hope of getting information about the disappearance of 6-year-old haleigh? >> police say misty was the last person to see the 6-year-old. they have always accused her of not telling them everything about what happened that night. >> if i had something to do with it, if i knew where she was, we wouldn't be sitting here today. we'd have her. >> tommy croslin now facing
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additional charges including grand theft that could put him behind bars for life. why? law enforcement says misty croslin squealed behind bars on her own brother. so why won't she tell cops what she allegedly knows about the night haleigh vanished? >> straight out to art harris, investigative journalist at artharris.com, art, you've just gotten off the phone with croslin, misty croslin's father and sister-in-law, what can you tell me? >> i can tell you that misty is behind bars, nancy and she is scared. her father told me she doesn't know what to do. she has been getting squeezed by detectives in the haleigh case, not the drug case, an they want to know what she knows. they have been dangling names in front of her wanting her to identify certain unnamed people. and she has not given up anything yet. >> wait a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa. don't lose me. art harris, police are dangling
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names in front of her. okay, her story all along has been she was there at the home alone -- >> asleep. >> -- with the 5-year-old little girl haleigh and the little boy even younger, ronald cummings jr., that they were asleep. her story got twisted up as to which bed they were in and so forth. and the next thing she knows she wakes up to go to the bathroom and the baby girl is gone. she didn't hear a thing, didn't see a thing. she doesn't know ha thing. so what other names are there to dangle in front of her? >> nancy, that is the $64,000 question in satsuma. who are these people police are dangling? now, we don't know. are they the people who could have been in her dream that night she woke up and said that she remembered those four shadowy figures in the trailer? we don't know that. we just know that she has heard some names and she's not talking. >> okay.
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what more can you tell me? >> i can tell you, nancy, she's not saying anything about the night that haleigh went missing but she has no problem telling the police that her brother stole dvds from their neighbor. now, the question here is, was she really at home that night? something we asked before. but, also, with these drug charges, this goes back to was she possibly passed out the night that haleigh went missing and she might not even know what to tell police at this point? >> we are taking your calls live tonight as we go to air. we discover secret jailhouse tape tapes, audio and video, of stepmother, former babysitter, misty croslin, hours and hours of her yaking away. back to you, art harris. everybody, we're taking your calls live. she is talking hours on end to who? who's visiting her and who's she talking to? >> well, the last visit was with her parents, an hour visit. they split it up into 30 minutes each. lisa croslin, her mother, had
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30, then her father hank croslin sr. and her brother tommy got a visit from his wife lindsay. >> don't care about tommy croslin. unless he can tell me something that misty croslin has blurted out during one of her drug-fueled nights on the town. so all of these people are visiting. is it one-on-one. is it via skype, internet? how does it work? >> i believe it's on a telephone and in a different location than the actual inmate, nancy. >> wait a minute. what you're telling me is the visitors are at, for instance, a visitor center in a different building? >> that's my understanding. >> and they can talk on a phone? >> yes. >> can they see each other? >> i think they can. so there is video, or there is video of each person talking. i'm told they see each other because there was a very emotional connection. >> that's my understanding. have you seen the setup? how does it work there?
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what i'm getting at, is it's more likely to the truth out of her sitting with her than in a visitor center three miles away via skype. >> her attorney can sit with her and the only person that can sit with her in the jail. the visitation is a webcam so she can only speak through a phone and a webcam. >> oh, people, people, let the parents go in and visit. let them hold hands, hug, cry. maybe she'll tell the truth. out to the lines, jessie, kentucky. hi, jessie. i think i've got jessie in kentucky. i certainly can hear you. okay. let's try melody in ohio. hi, melody. >> caller: hi, nancy. >> hi, dear. what's your question? >> caller: my question is, for god's sake, the money that they were using to spend on these drugs, why did not ronald cummings put that money towards
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reward money, for god's sakes? >> you know, interesting question. how much money are we talking about, art harris? >> we're talking about $4,000 worth of drugs that they sold. so this was cash in their hands supposedly, nancy. >> okay, art, very quickly, we've only got less than a minute left. all of these hours of misty croslin talking on video, how are we getting our hands on it? how is it that we are getting it? >> the st. john's county sheriff's department has been taking these recordings and they are now being reviewed by the case detectives in putnam county. they're redacting them. tomorrow we expect to get a dvd of the misty tapes. #. >> yes, i do have a message for whoever has taken haleigh. i would ask that you please, please bring my daughter home. she's not yours.
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it's not property, you know. it's not something that you just take and say, it's mine, or whatever. this is my daughter. this is blood. i would like to have my daughter back, please. please bring my daughter home.
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i wish that they would have took me instead of her, you know, because i could have fought. she's only 5. she can't really do anything. i don't know where she is. >> she was a 16-year-old child whose job was to look after somebody else's 2 young children. i can only imagine that this girl would want to get out and have some fun of some kind. >> i love her like she's my own and i'll do anything to get her back. >> well, of course i want to know if she knows anything. what she does know. we need to find my daughter. >> do you think misty holds some information that could help do that? >> i don't think that she holds any information that's going to
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find haleigh. >> misty's brother was questioned by police. that's when deputies say croslin's brother told them it looked like no one was home that night. >> he tells police that he banged on the door and he got no answer. he looked inside through the windows, saw no lights, no television. did not hear a sound. >> i would have woke up if i heard any noise. i didn't hear anything at all. >> that front door is all but ten feet from the bedroom where misty was sleeping with haleigh and junior that night. so if somebody is wailing on the door, there's no way she wouldn't have haird that whatsoever. >> it's hard to believe that she don't know more, but it's also hard to believe that if she did know more she ain't already talked, you know? >> do you believe she left the home and left the children alone, ronald? >> absolutely not. i want to get to the bottom of what happened. one way or another, i want my daughter to come home. >> okay. but who asked you that or who
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told you that? >> i don't know who it was. >> it wasn't any of the detectives you knew? >> nope. >> but they haven't come to you and said okay, ron, let's sit down and talk about what you heard from misty or what you heard from anybody else outside now that you're in jail we've got you here. you might as well tell us everything you know. >> nope. >> they haven't done that? >> no. because they already know that. they all know. if i find out before them, they'll know. i mean, they won't have to question me. they know that. otherwise, i'm sure they would have already sat me down and questioned me hour upon hour upon hour, but they already know the answers does not lie with me and the answer to the question that you're asking me is yes. >> that's the tip of the iceberg. tonight we learn that there are hours upon hours of jailhouse videotape secretly recorded of girlfriend turned stepmother
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misty croslin, the last person to see little haleigh alive. she acts for hours with various visitors, including her mommy and daddy. and let's remember there is no mommy/daddy privilege like priest/petitioner or husband/wife. attorney/client privilege, nothing they say will be kept out of court. let's unleash the lawyers. we're taking your calls live. joining us tonight, family law attorney sue moss out of new york, defense attorney raymond guidice, atlanta, defense attorney peter odom, also out of the atlanta jurisdiction. weigh in, sue moss. >> we're going to get these tapes, but she's not talking to mom about her legal pursuits when the entire family is wearing orange jumpsuits. each one of these people would fall quicker to get the other in trouble in order to make a deal. so i don't expect much. >> guidice? >> here's what she knows. she knows who has sold her
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340-some-odd oxy code done pills. they've been using these medications, prescription drugs, for a long time. the dealers know something about what happened to the child. that's what she's sitting on. >> well, peter, odom, even if she claims she can't remember anything but going to sleep that night, i guess so after popping a lot of oxycodone, i'd go to sleep, too, even if that's best-case scenario, i would want to know who she was with in the hours leading up to that. we know for three days before she came back to the home she had been out on a binge, awol, missing for three days, and you know she was drug out to the max by the time she washed up back at the home. >> no question about it, nancy. the position she's in, though, is the police want her to implicate herself in a murder when she's only facing drug charges now. frankly, she'd be foolish to do that, and she's too savvy to do
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it. >> to mark klaas, we are waiting on the release of these jailhouse videotapes. they're about to be released at any moment. as soon as we get them, we're playing them. we already have some of them which we are playing. now, hours on end of girlfriend baby sitter turned stepmother misty croslin, police say she's the key to the case. what about it, mark? >> i don't think she's too savvy to be sitting on anything or holding anything back, quite frankly. i think this is a poor, scared little girl who would willingly turn over any information she had if she thought it could bring little haleigh home at this time. but the problem with her is is that drugs have ruled her life and ruined her life, and there's probably not much left there to work with. if there is, it's going to take a long stay in prison and some rehabilitation to bring it out. >> bs, and i've never said bs to you, marc klaas.
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but this girl knows who she was with in the hours leading up to this kidnap. she also had this dream of four men. >> oh, yeah. >> it's not a dream. it happened. >> sure it happened. >> in the home the night haleigh goes missing. >> i agree. absolutely it happened. >> and what would you do? i mean -- >> with what? >> with that person? >> kill them. same thing i said on the 911 call. >> well i just want to make sure. >> i'm telling you i ain't changed my mind not a bit. >> well, what did they ask you about her? what did they say to you? i mean, is that all they said? >> yeah. up, that's it.
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misty's mom says that misty got a tattoo. >> she did with your name on it. >> she did, but it ain't got nothing to do with me man. >> it's got your name. >> hey, i didn't tell her to do that. you don't see her name tattooed on me do you? hey, man, with age comes wisdom. i'm not 18 years old no more. i might have done that when i was 18. the only two women that are
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tattooed on me is haleigh and my momma and that's it. >> we're taking your calls live. joining us from new york, thank you for being with us, mark. what's all the chit chat? is that to loosen up the individual, so finally they'll say something worth listening to? >> yeah. >> i don't care about tattoos. >> i don't care about tattoos either. this is 1 of those things you have to look at this thing in the prism of a missing person case. they're not just checking evidence for a completed crime they want to get into court. they're doing whatever they can within the bounds of the law to dangle what they can, give leverage to find a way to find out what she knows. i don't believe she's savvy at all, but i believe she knows something. there ace a certain amount of exigency to this case. you're still trying to find this girl and hope she's alive. >> out to the lines juanita, hi dear. what's your question?
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>> caller: i was kind of troubled about a statement that i had heard from the jailhouse interview with ronald. he mentioned something when they were talking about kidnapping and the people or whatever, he said "those two." then he went on to something else. >> i didn't catch that, juanita. >> i did not catch that. >> caller: that bothered me. he said "those two." >> what about it, marlaina schiavo? do you recall that? did we possibly miss that? >> you know, i did not catch that. the only thing we heard him say that he was willing to go to any lengths and even get the death penalty if he finds out who did it. >> to you, juanita in oregon, we will comb the transcripts tonight and find what you're talking about. to doreen in minnesota, hi dear. >> caller: hi, nancy. hey, i have a question about that cinder block that was placed in the back door. do you know if they ever did
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some touch dna on that to get cells off that rough surface? >> what about it? do we know, marlaina? didn't they test the cinderblock? >> they took it into evidence and didn't come back with anything. even the door they took and never came back with anything. >> very quickly, marc harrold, if you could describe touch dna. >> anytime a human touches most surfaces, there's transfer. if they can get dna off the skin cells, it can be incriminating. i don't know if they got anything or not, but i knew they took the cinderblock.
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ronald, even behind bars, facing a lot of jail time, possibly, that he will still only talk about haleigh. he says, to this moment, he has not changed his mind. if he finds the person that killed haleigh, he will kill that person. he doesn't care what kind of jail time he will face. he doesn't care if it even offers up the death penalty. it's worth it to him. >> the undercover officers with putnam county sheriff's department heard misty was dealing, that they could get
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drugs from her, and they callee and asked if she could deliver. >> how old are you? >> just turned 18. >> they have her behind bars and plan on aquestioning her again about haleigh's disappearance. >> when is the last time you saw her? >> we just like you know it was 10:00. she was sleeping. >> we know misty was allegedly the last one to see haleigh alive. she knows more than she's telling. hopefully, hopefully, this will put a little bit more pressure on her to say, okay, what more do you know? >> i'm trying to do everything to find her, you know. answer any questions i have to. i don't know where she is. >> what does ronald know in this, too? >> but they haven't come to you and said, okay, ron, let's sit down and talk about what you heard from misty or what you heard from anybody else outside now that you're in jail we've got you here. you might as well tell us everything you know. >> nope. >> and we learn that, as part of her hours on video and
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audiotape, baby sitter turned stepmother misty croslin ratted out her own brother on felony charges. out to you, art harris. as part of her talking to investigators, she ratted out her own brother? >> nancy, this just goes to show you that in satsuma or at least in this family blood is thinner than water and that misty had no loyalty at all within a heartbeat of being incarcerated she told them about tommy, that there were certain items in the home that she did not recognize and that tommy had stolen. suddenly they match that up with a neighbor's theft report. they search the house, ask his wife and voila, there's towels, dvds of harry potter, a game boy, things that tommy had allegedly stolen from next door. so she is not loyal in the least. >> but what did she feel she could gain, art harris, by ratting out the brother for stealing, what, some captain
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morni morgan and dish washing detergent? who cares? >> you cannot ascribe rational thought processes to the people in this case. if she thought perhaps she could get a decade or two lopped off of her drug trafficking sentence that could be looming, if convicted, perhaps that was racing through her mind. but she is a very, very frightened about the drug case. that's what her family told me tonight. >> i guess she should be. i know she's frightened. i understand that. but i don't care. all i want to find out is where this girl is and what became of little haleigh. and i want to go to marlaina. why is stealing a bottle of captain morgan and some mary potter dvds, how does that get you life behind bars? >> well, he also was allegedly -- he allegedly stole a gun, nancy, so if you steal a gun in the process of another crime, that's a felony and it can get you life in prison. >> we are taking your calls. live to paul lean in massachusetts. hi, dear.
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>> caller: hi, nancy. love your show and respect and admire you so much for keeping this alive. >> thank you. >> caller: my question is, are these people perhaps in a drug deal and that they have given away misty in lieu of the money that they owe and are now trying to recover that money? >> excellent question. i'll unleash the lawyers, sue moss, ray guidice, peter odom, you know, i hear this kidnap for ransom, sold for a drug debt, drug dealer stole the baby to get back at the father. that hardly ever happens. i don't know that it's ever happened. >> it really only happens in the big narco industry in mexico or some places -- >> you mean in the movies? >> no. it happens in some places, arizona is the kidnapping capital of the united states because of the drug trade. so it does happen. does it happen when people are dealing in small amounts of
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oxycodone in trailer parkses. the answer is probably not. i agree with you. >> what about it, peter? >> i agree with ray. i mean, these aren't high-end drug dealers by any means. i think it's far more likely that misty just wasn't there the night that this child was abducted. >> put both of these defense attorneys back up. sue moss, while the two defense lawyers are laughing it off as penny drug dealing, it might have been 2,000 here, 800 there, but somebody is supplying them. somebody with a lot of drugs. there's a distributor in the mix somewhere. there's a manufacturer in the mix somewhere. somewhere there's a doctor or dentist writing scripts out the ying yang. somebody's looking at a lot of hard jail time. but the likelihood, sue moss, that they would come down to satsuma, florida, and steal the little girl out of the home, unlikely. >> that's true. but mark my words, drugs has something to do with this crime.
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unfortunately, it's going to take a lot more prison jerky to get her to start talking turkey. >> to dr. lillian glass, psychiatrist, body language expert, author of "toxic people," welcome. let's talk about the dream because that has intrigued me from the moment i heard it. misty croslin saying, i don't know anything. i pray to god she mentions this in these videotapes. we're waiting on as we go to air tonight. i had this dream where four guys were in the home the night haleigh goes missing. well, isn't that a coincidence? lillian, how much of a dream is that? >> it's quite a reality. it's not a dream. >> when o.j. simpson had a dream about somebody killing his wife? >> exactly. >> that somebody would be him? >> exactly. she knows so much. and i could tell this early on. we saw her body language with so many tales of deception. >> like what? >> from the lip licking to the shoulder shrugging to the
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monotone voice, to the defiance, the repetition of words. we saw so many tells. and we know she had something to do with this. >> of course she did. but i don't know what. maybe it was a case of allowing these people in the home, maybe it had something to do with drugs. but she was the last one with the girl, and we still don't know where 5-year-old haleigh is. out to did marty mccarrie, physician of public health, johns hopkins. dr. marty, thank you for being with us. doctor, she's been behind bars now about 12 days. how long is it going to take a full-fledged dope freak on ox i ycodone to dry out? >> typically it takes two to three weeks. with these heavy narcotics, these narcotics that people can forge a prescription for. but we may not see the effects
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of this wear off until about six weeks. after which they get severe depression, they get fatigue, and they get generalizeded malaise. and that lingers on for months afterwards. >> dr. marty, what about the lip licking and the fidgeting and the monotone that dr. lillian glass pointed out? would that be an indicator of a narcotics user? >> those are all totally consistent with somebody who chronically is using any opiate or narcotic and they're going through withdrawal. those are withdrawal symptoms. >> back to art harris, investigative journalist artharris.com, we now know there are hours and hours of secretly recorded videotape of misty croslin. you talked to misty's father, misty croslin's father, and her sister-in-law. what can you tell me, again, about those tapes? what do we expect to hear? >> well, if you get the tapes that were made today, you will hear misty talking about things
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like what happened that night. i had never known this from her sister-in-law before, but she says she was so tired from those parties in the last three days that when she came home she did not want to babysit. that she called ron's mother and she offered, quote, to pay her to babysit. and misty told her sister-in-law, okay, if it's okay with ron. now, remember, he was furious at her. she had just gone off on this three-day revenge romance, sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll. she didn't know if he wanted her to babysit. he said it was with okay so that's the last we know, nancy. that's what you'll hear on tonight's tape. >> you're telling me that night haleigh went missing she did not want to be there, babysit? >> that's what she told her sister-in-law. >> that add a lot to the mix, that she did not want the spomt of these children and now suddenly one of them disappears. that's something new to us tonight. we're taking your calls live as we go to break, happy birthday
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to one with of our regulars. we know her. we love and respect her. dr. leslie austin. she had a big birthday an i'm sure she's celebrating not only with her human loved ones but all of her beloved pets. listen, they get dressed up for every holiday, halloween, christmas, easter. you name it. dr. leslie, happy birthday.
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911. what's your emergency? >> i just woke up and our back door was open and i can't find our daughter. >> misty's brother was arrested on a gun charge and he reportedly broke down under police questioning. tommy croslin says he went to ronald cummings' trailered night haleigh vanished back in february. the brother said he repeatedly pounded on the door but no one opened it. misty croslin has insisted she was home all night. >> i seen the kitchen light on, and i walked in the kitchen and the back door is wide open. i mean, i didn't notice about haleigh. until i seen the back door open,
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then i go in the room and she's gone. >> misty's time line doesn't make sense and her story chan changes. so the ring of truth is that somebody went there and wasn't home when they knocked. >> i'm trying to do everything i can to find her, answer any questions i have to. because i know i didn't do anything to that little girl. i would never hurt her. >> i've thought all along that she had something to do with it, and now this kind of just proves it. i mean, she's the last one to see our daughter and her stories just don't add up. >> they go out and look for the right person, maybe they would have the answer. but they're trying to get all the answers from me that i don't have. >> so they haven't questioned you or asked you if you found out anything from misty or found out anything from anybody else? >> no. they know i haven't found out anything, dana. they know i haven't because they know that they would be the first ones to know. i wouldn't call them or nothing else. they would be notified probably
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by the news media or somebody you know reporting a homicide so they already know that i haven't found out about anything. so they don't have to ask me a dumb question like that. >> because you're saying that if you found out you would do what you think you need to do and they'd find out about that. >> yeah. >> we learn tonight hours on hours of stepmother misty croslin on video and audio. what did she say to her mother and father and others that came to visit her behind bars? let's take a look at where this bunch is shacked up. they're in a couple of different locations, a couple of different jails. and we're also learning about jailhouse amenities. recreation time outside of jail, we are learning about libraries, tv, recreation yard, ged classes, programs. we learn about a menu tonight,
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chicken, rice with gravy, peas, bread, pudding, and fruit juice. you know what? i had a couple of chicken nuggets i found in the car. they're eating better than i did. i had three chicken nuggets. marlaina, what can you tell me about these jailhouses? >> well, the one that misty is in, she's only in protective custody so she can play cards in her jail cell. she can watch tv. and she can pretty much have visitors through the week depending on the schedule. now, for ronald, he's in isolation in putnam county so he can only have 20 minutes twice a week for visitation and supervised recreation. >> so long story short, while they're having chicken with rice and gravy, peas, bread, pudding and fruit juice, a 5-year-old girl's body is likely somewhere decomposing or else she's been kidnapped during one of misty croslin's drug hazes.
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and god only knows where she is tonight. also, we learn that ronald cummings has been moved. to where and why, marlaina schiavo? >> he has been moved putnam county because that's where all his charges were with. he was originally separated frt other defendants while they were with still investigating, but now he's back where he belongs. >> out to the lines, anne in iowa, hi, anne. >> caller: yeah. i hope you haven't touched on this yet, but i firmly believe that misty sold haleigh for drugs. not the money owed, nothing. but just sold her to get more drugs. >> anne in iowa, there was a time that i would have scoffed at that theory, but now, in light of the magnitude of their drug needs and her drug dependency, i think that may be entirely possible. the only thing is, she hasn't popped up anywhere. there have been no legitimate sightings of her.
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is that correct, art harris? >> that's correct, nancy. i can tell you the putnam county shave's department has a whole file, books of, quote, sightings that they have followed up on, abdomen and no haleigh. i can tell you that that theory is a little more than a theory in the mind of misty's father who told me that ron claimed he knew where he could get misty back for $35,000. he tells me he's told that to the police. that probably went right into one of those tip sheets and no one has been able to verify that at all. >> back to marc klaas, president and founder of klaas kids foundation. the more we hear, the march tangled up it gets, the disappearance of this little girl. what is your suggestion now to police? you've been here. >> well, i would say now what the police should probably do is focus upon that group of drug sharing individuals that congregate in and around misty.
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who are the people that she was with? who could have been there that night? perhaps the little girl took a pill and died and somebody disposed of her and misty may not have been aware of that she may have been so zonked out. but i would suggest that probably it's with that group of individuals with whom they socialize and do drugs. that's probably where the answer is to this mystery. >> even if that were the scenario, it still is negligent homicide on a child. unleash the lawyers. sue moss, ray guidice, peter odom. another issue about misty croslin talking from behind bars. a lot of people think that what you say to your parents, raymond guidice, is somehow protected. that's not true. >> absolutely not. there's no privilege, as you pointed out. the legal privileges are doctor/patient, attorney/client, priest/pen tent, that's about it. maybe a marital privilege but not in florida in this
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situation. >> think back to the o.j. simpson trial. remember when rosie greer visited him in the capacity of a minister and simpson made some incriminating statement akin to a confession? even though a sheriff apparently overheard it, it still was disallowed in court. why? >> in that case, nancy, because the sheriff accidentally overheard it. if the sheriff had been there, then there would not have been any legal privilege whatsoever. >> sue moss, weigh in. >> i'm not sure about that because rosie greer apparently is a member of the clergy and i believe at that time he was claiming there was the clergy privilege.
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tonight on "the joy behar show," celebrity meltdown. actor rip torn gets drunk, grabs a gun and tries to break into a
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bank and i have one world for mel gibson -- jealous. then mackenzie phillips has had hard times and hard times. we'll talk about her strungle to stay sober and sane. and elisabeth hasselbeck joins me for a knockdown, dragout brawl. all this coming up after nancy. >> that is ronald cullings talking to the flori"the florid times-unio times-union". out to the lines. hi, dawn. >> caller: hi, nancy. my question is, in all of this, where is misty's brother and has
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he been questioned about anything? >> what about it, art harris? >> misty's brother has been questioned. he'll be questioned again, says he knows nothing. i would told tonight by his parts, nancy, he's willing to take a lie detecter test and pay for it themselves. >> art, remember him saying that a guy dressed in black with squeaky shoes was in the home the night his sister went missing. >> that was junior's comments. >> what about it, lillian glass, how would you handle a child witness like that? >> oh, nancy, you can see that they're lying through their teeth. they change their stories, when they speak it's complete lies. and it's very difficult to get a handle on this. >> art, what more can you tell us? >> i can tell you as far as the child goes, they had experts question junior from the
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university of florida who were specialized in child psychology and this kind of traumatic case. and that's what they told the expert. however, the child is too young for it to hold up in court. >> art, what can you tell us -- you've alluded to mind games with cops. what do you think? >> that is the term that the parts used with me tonight. that's misty's phrasing of what has been going on over the last few days that they've been playing "mind games with her." >> her mind is so fried. he wouldn't know a mind game if it bit her in the neck, art harris. everybody, let's stop and remember navy boatswain mate brian ouellette, navy s.e.a.l. his mother accepted his bachelor's degree in his honor.
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a black belt in karate, loved sports, red sox, leaves behind parents, six brothers, one sister. brian ouellette, american hero. thanks to our guests but our biggest thank you is to you for being with us tonight. and a special happy birthday to one of our stars, andrea. she loves sting and the police. but her number one love is her beautiful little girl, lily. he bakes cupcakes for our show. happy birthday. and remember, everyone, the tipline in the haleigh case. i'll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp eastern. until then, good night, friend. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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