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breaking news tonight. satsuma, florida. a 5-year-old girl tucked into bed, five hours later she's gone. daddy comes home from the nightshift to find not a trace of little haleigh. last person to see her alive? new stepmother, misty croslin, who takes to the airwaves claiming she's innocent. but even in one brief interview she can't keep her stories straight. including a 180 on a lie detector. she flunked. little haleigh's own father, ronald cummings, and baby-sitter turned stepmother, misty croslin, both handcuffed, arrested, booked. chars? drug trafficking.
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bombshell tonight. we obtain even more of those secretly recorded jailhouse tapes. hours of croslin yakking and whining to mommy and daddy. and tonight, we have the video as police comb the jailhouse tapes for clues as to little haleigh's whereabouts. tonight, where is 5-year-old haleigh? >> i'm so tired of this. like i'm just so tired of being locked in one cell. i'm so tired of it. like, it drives me crazy. i'm just trying to get by -- sleeping all day long. >> so what, you have things you need to, like, talk to him about?
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>> well, yeah, i mean, it's, you know, it's so hard to talk. >> i know. >> yeah, but it's going to hurt two people. it's goi to hurt two people. >> that we care about? >> kind of. one, yeah, and the other kind of. >> that i care about? >> yeah. >> because i know -- >> no. no. no. it's somebody, yeah, no. i mean, i prayed and that's all i can do. people saying i don't think about haleigh. you can ask everybody in this cell block right here, right now, everybody in this block knows i think about her all the time and i talk about her all the time. >> haleigh's always on my mind 24/7. she's always on mind. just because i'm not talking about her doesn't mean -- nancy grace can say whatever she wants that we don't care about her. everybody in this jail knows i talk about haleigh a lot. >> good evening. i'm nancy grace. i want to thank you for being with us. bombshell tonight.
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we obtain even more secretly recorded jailhouse tapes. it's hours of croslin yakking, whining to mommy and daddy, to everybody. tonight we have the video. i am never, ever, ever coming back to jail, ever again when i get out. i'll never do nothing ever again wrong. i don't care. >> i know you won't because i'm going to beat the -- out of you if you do. >> you don't have to beat the -- out of me because i'm telling you this right here. i've been in here 20 something days, 24 days and i learned my lesson for real. i don't want to be back here, man. i'm not no drug dealer. going to start giving me counseling or probation or something. just sitting here goofing around. telling everybody we want to get out. this jail is so packed. i wish i had powers. i'd make a door in my cell and just walk out. >> last night on nancy grace,
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they had me and tommy on there. >> -- them. nancy grace is a -- >> i know, and she said last night, yeah, she said they don't ever talk about haleigh when they talk on the phone. we don't talk about anything else. they play what they want. everybody in the world to hear. >> exactly. we talk about haleigh all the time. they only take what they want and put it out there. >> yep. >> they do. i think about haleigh 24/7 all day long. nancy grace can kiss my ass. >> straight out to art harris, investigative journalist at artharris.com. i've never known her in all this time when we have been watching her, you have been spending time there in satsuma. i've never once seen her break down in tears, squeeze out one tear. and just lately now that she's discovered that cameras are
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rolling, suddenly she started praying a lot or at least talking about it. >> she's scared, nancy. i've talked to her family, talked to her father. he sd that it is -- >> she is not scared. don't even. don't even give me that b.s. because she just said -- >> i'm just reporting what the family is telling me. they believe that -- >> art, please stop. s-t-o-p. beuse she was just saying, i've done 23 days already, and i'm going to get into drug court. she doesn't get it. she's not scared. >> well, that's what the famy is telling me, that off camera, nancy, the investigators hav had an affect on her and right now they are invesgating a letter she has sent to a family member telling what she says she knows about that night with haleh. >> okay. now, there's some breaking news. tell me some more about the letter. >> well, the letter has gone to a family member. the family member turned it over to investigators, and they are trying to see what details in
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the letter they can confirm, what they can't. they believe, i'm told, some things misty says. they don't believe others. the problem with misty, nancy, is that if whoever she says or claims did whatever they did she's got to have corroboration on the witness stand. she is not a credible witness at this point. >> to jean casarez, legal correspondent "in session." jean, i notice in one of the jailhouse tapes she says, well, i'm going to tell what i know and it's going to hurt two people. who? >> well, nancy, that is very important. we don't know, but we can read between the lines because she's talking to her sister-in-law. and she says she's going to say what she knows. it's going to hurt two people. do we care about these people? the sister-in-law says. she says, one, yeah. do i care about? yeah. she says one, yeah. the other sort of. well, a family member, who are they going to really care about? they're going to care about another family member probably. but that's important, nancy, coupled with the fact she tells her mother that she's told her
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attorney that he knows. what is it? she won't say. she says he's comfortable. >> okay. let's take a listen to what jean casarez is describing in just-obtained secretly-recorded jailhouse tapes of baby-sitter turned stepmother. the last person to see this little girl alive. >> i'm so tired of this, like, i'm just so tired of being locked in one cell. i'm so tired of it. like, it drives me crazy. i'm just trying to get by -- sleeping all day long. >> so what, you have things you need to, like, talk to him about? >> well, yeah, i mean, it's, you know, it's so hard to talk. >> i know. >> yeah, but it's going to hurt two people. it's going to hurt two people. >> that we care about? >> kind of.
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one, yeah. and the other, kind of. >> that i care about? >> yeah. >> because i know i don't give a -- about ronald. excuse my language. >> no, no, no. it's somebody -- yeah, no. >> it's not him? >> no, just you think, chelsea. use your head. and you'll know. >> let's unleash the lawyers. joining us tonight, eleanor odom, felony prosecutor out of atlanta. renee rockwell, peter odom, also out of atlanta. both defense attorneys. you know, eleanor odom, don't you think by now if she had somebody to pin it on she would have told cops a long time ago? >> yes, especially since she's in jail now and that could help her get out. maybe give her some credibility with the authorities. >> renee, i don't think she gets it. she was saying on one of these jailhouse -- now, there's the real misty croslin right there in her element. there you go.
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and she is not praying and crying about haleigh. she's got a cigarette dangling off her lip and she's trying to score a drug deal. she's not thinking about little haleigh or helping the search at all. do you often deal with clients that just don't get it? she was saying, hey, i've done 23 days. 23 days on time served? and she's looking at 130 years behind bars? explain to us e advantage of so-called drug court. >> well, nancy, drug court, while she might be a candidate for drug court because she's obviously got a drug problem or she's addicted, et cetera, those are for people -- >> no. >> i'm just saying, we're talking about -- >> she's charged with trafficking. >> that's right. drug court is reserved for people with drug addictions. they don't want dealers in drug court. while she may have a drug problem, look at her. they don't want a drug dealer in drug court to, what, sell to all the other patients that are trying to go through rehab.
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>> what's the advantage to her, peter odom, of going to drug court? it's specially for junkies, addicts, people with a drug problem. not dealers. >> lesser sentence. that would be the advantage. or some kind of probation rather than prison. it's clear she just doesn't get it. she's probably looking at some kind of prison time for these offenses. >> some ki of prison time? that was smart, peter. she's looking at some kind of prison time. yeah. you went to law school and that's your analysis. she's looking at some jail time. >> we just don't know what yet, nancy. that's -- >> we don't know. >> that's all we can say. >> i know. >> that's all we can say at this point. you do not kno >> she is looking at 130 years behind bars. >> that's her maximum. that's her mimum. she's never going to do that. >> okay. pause. >> she'll do a few years. >> eleanor odom, let's give the defense attorneys a little reality check. because the prosecutors, if all
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they ever get her on is this drug offense, you know it's going to be a stiff penalty. >> exactly. it's not just a drug offense, nancy. it is trafficking and drugs. we're talking large quantities. that's why there's a large amount of years she's facing. yes, i see her getting some serious prison time. >> out to the lines. michelle, new hampshire. hi, michelle. >> caller: oh my god, what a privilege. >> you know what, michelle? the privilege is mine and everybody on my staff. thank you for calling. what's your question, dear? >> caller: first, i'd like to thank you for everything you do for these victims and their family. second, i want to know how misty has survived in jail. all she does is cry and whine. >> i'll tell you how she's survived, michelle. she has not been in general population. they have her special needs. in fact, she was saying, and we're going to go back to jean when we get back, maybe we can find the video out of the hours of video, where she says i'm
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special. i'm a star here.
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i'm watching you on tv right now. >> what am i doing? >> you're on nancy grace. me and you talking on the phone. >> today? >> no. >> yesterday? >> no, not yesterday, the last time i came to see you. >> okay. it doesn't say nothing about my lawyer or anything, right? >> not today, but they will have it on air. >> oh my god. i'm going to tell them that i was just upset and yeah. >> yeah. you need to be honest with your lawyers though so you don't lose him. >> i know. i was upset that day. i was wanting out there that day. it was hard. you know what day it was. >> i know. >> it was just hard and i wanted out, but now i realize that i need to just sit here and do what i got to do. >> let's just hope you're all right. >> yeah. i'm going to be all right, mama. even if they give me prison sentence, i'll still be okay as long as you guys come see me and send me money and stuff and i
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can call you. >> i will be there. you know i will. >> i mean, i'll be okay. i'm not scared. it's not that i'm scared. i just want to get out of here, and i want to be with my family, you know? >> i wish they'd just tell me what they're going to do. >> i don't know nothing about it. >> i know. i know. i just want you home with me. >> i can't wait. >> find haleigh and let you come home. >> i know. but ain't got nothing to do with me. i can't help them out there. >> i know. if they could find her then it's almost like this stuff would go away. >> it ain't going to go away. my charge ain't going to go away. >> no but just the -- >> all the publicity would go away. >> let's go out to marlaina schiavo, our producer on the
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story, joining us out of new york. marlaina, in these secretly-recded jailhouse tapes, we now hear her talking about how much she talks about haleigh. she doesn't talk about her at all in any of these tapes. what she says is, i talk about her all the time, but she never talks about her. >> well, nancy, because she's finding out people are saying that she's not talking about her and noticing it -- >> obviously. >> well, right. and she's just sort of going in circles saying she wants pictures. it's like sort of surface conversations, and she says that everybody jail knows that she talks about haleigh, but you're right. she's not really talking about haleigh. i think she's just sort of trying to cover herself at this point. >> let me rephrase myself. to you, dr. bethany marshall, psychoanalyst, author of "deal breakers." she's joining us from l.a.. thank you, dr. bethany. >> yes. >> let me rephrase that. when we are catching her, hours of videotape talking, she never talks about the little girl.
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never about i remember when haleigh did "x" and i love her so much and i feel awful that i was there that night and i can't remember. nothing. all she says is -- brags about how much she talks about her and all this business about i pray all the time. don't drag god into this. all right? don't let him be the doormat. >> nancy, i've read all the transcripts and listened to the tapes. she does not talk about haleigh. there's no parenting stories. she doesn't reminisce. she doesn't say, do you remember the ti i pushed her on the swing? she just kind of says, i prayed. we'll find her to rehabilitate her image. her attempts to rehabilitate her image are so transparent. remember what she did before? she blamed things on her brother. what is she doing again? she's blaming things on her brother. you know what makes me even angrier? he parents have every opportunity to help her and
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parent her while she's in jail. to encourage her to take responsibility. to discourage her from whining, to tell her she's there because of her actions, to encourage her toward sobriety. they don't parent her. it's scary that she wasn't parented and then she was supposedly takincare of this little girl she never talks about. what was going on in that household? >> i still can't see you. >> i'm going to write you tonight. start writing to the lawyer tonight. >> all right. and when i leave here i'm going to go by lindsey's and get pictures for you of haleigh and junior. >> yeah, i want one of haleigh and one of junior. and one of ronald. >> all right. i'll get them all to you. >> i mean, i still love him, mama. >> huh? >> i still love him. >> i know you do, baby. i'm sure he still loves you. i know.
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that's what teresa was talking about. that she don't even get to see junior. that was part of her letter.
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i'm going to go out to rec when i can because i need some fresh air. it's in this like little gated little like thing. it's like a cage outside. >> oh, but it is outside? >> yeah, i'm going to go out there. you don't have to stay -- if you go out there by an hour by yourself, i'm going to go out there just to get out of this cell block. >> you're out there for an hour? >> yeah. you're by yourlf. they won't give you a basketball or nothing. if i had a basketball i'd be all right. all i'm going to do a walk around for a little bit. blauz because i need some fresh air. it gets me out to walk. >> it gives you a different
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scene. >> did she just say they won't give me a ball to play with? jean casarez, did she just say that? >> she did, nancy. she did. because she's confined. she wants to go outside. she does get to go outside one hour a day by herself in the yard, but she can't do anything. >> i don't get to go outside an hour a day. >> you know, nancy. >> i work. from the time i get up at 5:00 in the morning until i hit the sack. and she's complaining she can't go outside, and they won't give her a ball to play with? >> you know, i think the complaining is actually enjoying it. i think she's enjoying so many aspects of this. she says on these tapes that she wasn't able to see television well enough so they put her on another floor and took the television and pushed it in so she could watch it. >> art harris, is that true? >> nancy, yes. in fact, she is now reveling in the fact she has the best seat in the house. the top bunk. she can see the tv perfectly and the television, curiously, has
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become sort of a law enforcement tool. my sources say it's keeping pressure on her to hear the reaction people are having on this show, actually. >> to sheryl mccollum, crime analyst, director of cold case squad, pinelake pd. sheryl, at this point little haleigh has been gone a year. i think if she had been alive she would have been identified by now. >> no question. no question. nancy, here's the bottom line. this woman has talked more about you than she has that baby. the conversation with the sister-in-law, she's had a year to talk to the sister-in-law about these two people it's going to hurt. she's not going to crack. she's protecting herself. i've said it from the beginning. she'd rather go to jail as a drug dealer than a baby killer. >> bottom line. eleanor odom, a lot of people have come up with a theory because i think it's more comfortable for them, that she passed out on drugs and has no idea what happened and somebody took the baby. then why did she flunk a polygraph? i mean, miserably.
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an f-minus-minus, eleanor. >> i know. exactly. if she's passed out then she has no knowledge. so i guess that's convenient for her to believe or others to believe but not truth. >> if she passed out, isn't it true she would not have flunked the polygraph if she'd been telling the truth? >> exactly. if she told the truth she wouldn't have flunked. every time her mouth moves, she's telling a lie, nancy. >> i'm going to tell the judge that i have a drug problem and try to get drug court because i have smoked pot and, you know? >> that's what you need to do, misty. >> i'm going to try. i mean, tell my lawyer i don't -- and you guys are going to be at the court, right?
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man, we had some nasty mystery meat tonight. i didn't eat it. >> what? >> it's called mystery meat. >> mystery meat. what did it look like? >> it's got, like, little hamburger patty thing, but it's, like, liver, like all nasty kind of -- in it. i done know. >> you didn't eat it? >> no. >> you might have liked it if you tried it. >> i did try it. >> oh. is that all you had? >> i ate the pudding on the plate and drunk my drink and i had green beans. i ain't eating no green beans witht no garlic or no salt.
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>> no, they don't give you salt there? >> no. >> oh, shoot. well, we're going to have to get you some crackers or something to make salt out of. >> they don't give you -- in here. i'm ready to get out of this place. whatever they're going to do, just do it. >> i know. i don't blame you. i'm tired of you being there. >> inow. what are they feeding you all at tonight? >> we had some meatball thing and noodles. it wasn't that bad. i ate it. i ate all my bread. meals in the morning, i don't eat their eggs. >> why? >> because they're nasty. i don't eat their grits. i don't eat their oatmeal. i eat their cereal and bread and jelly. >> if you try oatmeal and grits, they're good. >> no, they're not, mom. they don't have sugar in them. they're oatmeal. the grits don't even have butter on them. >> you know what i used to do, i used to take my syrup from my
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pancakes, i'd put syrup in my oatmeal. >> if i had syrup to put in my oatmeal, i would. thinking of all kinds of deals. for salts i'm going to order pretzels so i n have salt for my food. >> and mommy certainly knows best. she just got out from behind bars. why was mommy behind bars, jean casarez, and here she is talking about the jailhouse cuise? >> that was a theft forgery charge in tennessee. she was extradited back to florida. she got out on bail but she still has charges pending. >> out to dr. bethany marshall, psychoanalyst, author of "deal breakers." joining us out of l.a. menu, spaghetti casserole, glazed carrots, bread, calcium beverage, an iced cake. what's wrong with that? well, whole lot is wrong with it -- >> i'm not saying it for you to laugh.
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you know, what is haleigh having tonight? where is haleigh? is she now just bones with some hair on her skull maybe under water? is she just squashed down in a trash dump compacted along with everybody's debris? and she is behind bars whining about she doesn't like their eggs and their oatmeal? >> honestly, misty should have hayou for a mom because you would not have let her whine and complain about the food. you would have said to her, what about haleigh? what you said just now, and maybe she would have started to get some insight into her bad behavior. she talks about food because she's empty, because she has nothing else going on in her life. she has no skills, she has no future. she's coming down from drugs. because she's very entitled. all she thinks about is herself. this is one more teachable moment and her mother didn't use it.
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>> to art harris. art zs harris.com. art, you have spent so much time down at satsuma digging around in this case. now, listen, i know that knowing you want to take the comfortable way out. you don't want to think of misty croslin as a killer, but she didn't just pass out and wake up and the baby's gone or she would have passed her lie detector test. all right? it wasn't inconsistent. she was deceptive. end of story. her voice stress test. everything. her story has changed. does the whole family act like this, whining about they didn't give me a ball to play with? you think haleigh can bounce a ball? do you think haleigh is somewhere skipping rope right now, art? no! >> the family feels totally targeted. >> didn't me a ball to play with. >> they're feeling the heat, nancy. i can tell you that. i talked to her father. he can't find work. he's now living in a mission. he does not know what to do.
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he's told misty, he tells me, to tell what you know. so he feels like he's done everything he can. but i can tell you -- >> all right, art. let's cut the sob story. and yes, i feel for anybody that doesn't have a job, that can't make it. there are thousands of people like that in america right now. what i want to find out, art, is not about her family's work employment. i want to find out, who were the two people she's alluding to that the truth about what happened haleigh is going to hurt two people? >> nancy, law enforcement is trying to see if there is credibility behind the two people she has written family members about. i'll be reporting more on that on artharris.com as i can confirm it. right now they are very close to the family. >> to dr. evelyn minaya, women's health expert joining us out of new york. dr. evelyn, i heard her say i sleep all day. you know what? that's a tough life she's got
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going on right there. is that a signal that she is on some type of drug? i know that she has tried to go to sick bay and say she's sick to get, i think it was prozac. >> right. >> or prozac derivative. >> right. >> does that make you sleepy? >> it can. if she's only taking it during the morning then it can make her sleepy at nighttime. or if she's taking it at nighttime then it will make her sleepy obviously at nighttime. i really, really think the reason she sleeps is to hide her guilt so that she cannot remember, so that she kind of sticks to her stories and so it would make sense only to her. that's what i think. >> and right now she has a private cell with two beds in it and, of course, complains about both. tonight, we ask for your thoughts and prayers for a high school boy, trey rude. battling stage-four melanoma. he's a high school senior football star.
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says he will beat cancer. for info, go to prayfortrey.org. also info on the annual jog for a cause, fighting childhood cancer benefiting trey rude fund. saturday, march 13th, alpharetta, georgia. trey, please stay strong. as we go to break, happy birthday to a special friend of mine, lovely greer, and to all her friends, hello. little crime fighters, chesca, alexa, logan, lily, tess, theodora and rachel. all celebrating greer's birthday. it's a big number 12. the big 1-2. beautiful greer is an animal lover. she volunteers at an animal shelter every week. favorite animal, the walrus, of course. happy birthday, beautiful greer. 
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i'm praying, i prayed hard last night. leonard is praying, o. he says he's going to try to get tommy ou too. >> they're only going to bond him out and not me? >> huh? >> you're going to bond him out and not me? >> tommy don't even have a bond right now, misty. that's what lindsey said. lindsey don't know. lindsey hasn't really dealt with this man. i know what he's telling us. so i'm going on what he told us. >> what he, is he sayin yeah, he will? >> he says he will as long as you can he him find haleigh. >> okay. >> if you can help tell him something that will help bring
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haleigh home. >> hey, daddy. >> hey, sissy. how's it going? >> jusgot ved upstairs. >> can you see tv now? >> i can see the tv now because they moved it because i was complaining so much. they moved it right over here. i've been wanting to get moved upstairs anyway because this girl's up there that's really nice, and we can play cards together. she's going to help me with a ged book and stuff. she's been in here, like, a year. >> that's cool. she's been in lockdown by herself for a year? >> yeah. her -- she's on here for armed -- like murder. she didn't murder nobody. it was just someone murdered somebody and she picked them up and she didn't know it, though. there's some serious people in here, like, crazy people in here. i didn't even know i was talking to a murderer over in the other ock. she told me she was in here for trafficking and she's really
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killed somebody. i'm serious. i was like, oh my god. then they have me in a cell block, dad, somebody died in that one cell block i was in. i didn't know that. last night they were telling me. i was freaking out. i was like, man, they have me in here with somebody that died. it was crazy. >> no grasp on reality at all. you're seeing baby-sitter turned stepther misty croslin go on and on and on about herself, her roommates, her mattresses. she couldn't see t tv well enough so they moved her so she could get a bird's-eye view. art harris, what's your explanation of why they want her to see tv? in another recording she complains about the movies they watch. they get to watch movies. >> well, nancy, that's jail for you. as far as television she's watching the news that's reported locally about her in thisase and her parents relay what you say on this show.
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my sources they it's keeping the pressure on, and they want her to watch as much television about herself and what bethany marshall and nancy grace have to say about her psyche, as possible. they feel it's working. >> to leonard padilla, special guest joining us via skype out of sacramento. the bounty hunter that has offered to bail her out of jail if she helps find haleigh. she says, no way, she's not going to talk to anybody about the night haleigh goes missing. i find that highly unusual. to you, leonard, thank you for being with us. now it sounds like you've gotten a good alternative. you're working on bonding tommy croslin out. what do you hope to gain, if anything? >> well, we're hoping is tommy will come forward and tell us what he knows about the situation. first of all, let me explain something. her lie detector tests by tim miller, yes, she flunked, but the others that were given to her were inconclusive.
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>> actually, she flunked two polygraphs. she got an inconsistent on a voice stress test, and they tried to do hypnosis. for whatever reason that didn't work. >> as far as tommy and joe overstreet, they're the two people she keeps talking about having been at the trailer that night. it seems as though what she's trying to get them to do is corroborate her story, and yet, my understanding is the baby wasn't even there, assuming they did return to the trailer. the baby never was there when they were there. she just trying to get them there. if there was any bit of truth to that i'm telling you tommy and joe overstreet would have been charged by law enforcement by now had they had had any part -- >> what's the theory of their involvement? >> she wants to involve them in the situation so that they will corroborate her story regarding the baby. and the baby wasn't even there when they came over to the trailer that night. >> out to the lines. stephanie, oklahoma.
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hi, stephanie. >> caller: hello, nancy. >> hi, dear. what's your question? >> caller: first of all i'd like to tell you i think you're a great person with a great, big heart. >> thank you. >> caller: my question is, has she owned up to any responsibility at all to anyone? if she only gets charged for these drug charges can she be retried in the future for this case with haleigh? >> okay. first of all, stephanie, thank you for your kind words. i really areciate that. and for calling in. here's the bottom line. i'm going to throw it to eleanor. eleanor odom, she could be tried for trafficking now. get her behind bars on a stiff sentence and then continue to develop the murder case. >> exactly. if they get enough on her or anyone else they can try that whenever they find the body if they find the body. >> bottom line, to peter odom and renee rockwell, she can't be retried on a murder if she is acquitted the first time. you can't be retried even if you make a confession.
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>> no, that's double jeopardy. what's interesng is she gets tried on the trafficking. she can get convicted. while sitting there thinking about it she could buy her way out of jail even after conviction, nancy, if she wants to come forward with some information that would put a killer behind bars. >> what about itpeter? >> i thank that the pressure is starting to work, frankly, nancy. >> really? she's talking about what she had for dinner and you tnk she's cracking? >> i think some of the pressure is starting to show. >> really, how? >> i think by some of the -- she's becoming more emotional. she's starting to talk more about implicating people and maybe coming forward with something. >> that's true, peter. >> i think the long-term strategy the police came up with is going to work. >> out to the lines. sue in georgia. hi, sue. >> caller: hey, nancy. >> hi, dear. what's your question? >> caller: oh, is there any chance she could get a bond reduction?
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>> good question. what about it, eleanor? >> she might be able to get a bond reduction -- >> why? >> it would probably be pretty high. well, as of right now, and i'm not saying i'm agreeing with this, but as of right now she doesn't have a criminal history and there's not necessarily a chance of flight. i wouldn'tive her one. >> sheryl mccollum, what can police do now? >> they're going to wait. i mean, time is on their side. they're going to wait. they're ing to listen to these tapes and stay on to her. again, i'm going to keep saying it. tommy is a key player in this whole thing. >> because? >> he's the one that interjected himself the first time he went to jail. >> agree or disagree, jean casarez? >> tommy, you know, tommy has said repeatedly on the tapes, i don't know anything, and he speaks from the heart. i question whether he does know anything. >> jean casarez joining us from "in session." everyone, right now, "cnn heroes." >> baghdad ended up being a hell of a ride. i sustained a very severe blast
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injury. my life just came to a complete halt. >> how are you doing? how's everything? you look sharp today. >> thank you. >> i've been building cust homes for 30 years. one of the most important things for a family is a home. i want you to read a sign for . >> future home of sergeant alexander reyes, unid states army. >> congratulations. giving these folks a new home means the world. >> just thank you. that's all i can say. >> my name is dan wallrath. five years ago i had a friend of mine call me, a friend of his, his son had been injured in ir. >> this is the day after he graduated from boot camp. >> he showed me some pictures. his son was a big strapping marine. then he showed me pictures of steven in the hospital. it just broke my heart. steven was wheelchair-bound. we were going to have to remodel. i had no idea how i was going to pay for it. dan just said, we're going to take care of it. >> we remodeled that home. i realized this is not an isolated case.
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i'm a.j. hammer. this is a "showbiz tonight" news break. here's what's coming up on "showbiz tonight" at the top of the hour. kate gosselin's new 'do for dancing. again? is that reverse mullet back? "showbiz tonight" reveal it is brand-new, remarkable
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transformation of kate's new do or don't. brand-new "national enquirer" headlines that have barbara walters furious. wait until you see what happened when barbara faces off with a man that run it is tabloid. it didt end well. that's your "showbiz tonight" news break. we'll see you at theop of the hour here on hln. what a week in america's courtrooms. take a look at the stories, and more important, the people who touched our lives. >> human skeletal remains have been positively identified as being those of our missing 14-year-old amber. >> i want to go back to amber's grandmother joining us tonht, sheila welch. could you tell us about amber in life? >> she had a fantastic sense of humor. she was very loving. she -- it's terrible to hear
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people refer to her bones. i don't want anybody else to ever have to hear that description of their grandchild or their child. >> cathy, i've got all of the motions right here. there's over 200 pieces of evidence that they want banned from the jury's eyesight. they don't want the jury to hear any of this. >> that's right. they don't. you saw those pictures, they don't want the jury to see the pictures either before or after caylee disappeared. a mother of four has been arrested for allegedly trying to hire a hit man to kill her husband. >> with striking, long, dark, black hair, 43-year-old susan williams keeps her head bowed low as she leaves police headquarters. this garden city mother of four she has been charged with trying to hire a hit man to kill her soon to be ex-husband peter williams. serial killer rodney alcala is facing the death penalty for the kidnap and murder of a
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12-year-old girl and raping and murdering four other women. now law enforcement releasing over 100 photos. women and children they found in a storage locker that alcala rented. hoping to determine if any of these people were victims of the mass murderer. >> 125 photographs, dozens of women and children photographed in strange positions, half aware police say that they're being photographed. some of them half dressed and some in sexual acts with rodney. many of them prepew bes ent, boys and girls. police are trying to identify these women and children to make sure that there aren't many victims out there. let's stop and remember army private first class jacob tracy, 20, palestine illinois, killed iraq. awarded the bronze star, purple heart. loved outdoors, riding harleys with his father, basketball,
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playing with iraqi children. never met a stranger. dreamed of college and buying his own harley. leaves behind parents don and shei sheila, sisters. jacob tracy, american hero. thanks to our guests, but especially to you for being with us and a special good night to the new york control room. good night, brett, lisa, squeaky, eva. everyone, i'll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp eastern. and until then, good night, friend.
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