breaking news tonight. satsuma, florida. a 5-year-old girl tucked into bed, five hours later she's gone. daddy comes home from the nightshift to find not a trace of little haleigh. the last person to see her alive, new stepmother misty croslin, who goes on to flunk four polygraphs. haleigh's father, ronald cummings, and stepmother misty croslin both booked. charges? drug trafficking. suddenly search teams, cadaver

dogs, scuba divers, helicopters combing the st. johns river. croslin rousted out of a private jail cell, taken in handcuffs down to the docks. motioning out to the water. pointing out a specific spot to police. police announcing 5-year-old haleigh likely dead. evidence including two cinder blocks pulled from the muddy waters of the st. johns river. as the search for little haleigh's entire body and the murder weapon goes on, bombshell tonight -- in a stunning police move, we learn while misty croslin stands on the docks of the st. johns, police show her bones recovered in the search, then place croslin and brother tommy together in the back of a squad car, leaving the two, sister and brother, to talk freely. was there a squad car confession?

in the last hours police announced they have not found haleigh's body, all they've dredged up are animal bones. did croslin only see animal bones at the dock, then break down? police refusing to confirm human remains found but go inform haleigh's father behind closed doors to plan a funeral. father ronald cummings and bio mom crystal sheffield meet to determine whether to have haleigh officially declared dead. croslin's own grandmother describing scenarios, insisting she believes all three, misty croslin, brother tommy croslin, cousin joe overstreet, are all responsible for haleigh's death. two types of rope missing from croslin's van the morning after haleigh vanishes, backing grandma's story, haleigh ruthlessly tied to a brick, then thrown into the muddy waters, dead or alive.

>> today is a very bad day for me. >> she was taken to the crime scene, to the river. >> tomorrow's going to be a bad day for me, too. okay? >> the detectives showed her what they had found. >> i was freaking out. i was like, man, they got me -- >> she was shown bones. >> shown bones. >> bones and remains. >> i know that bones have been found in the river. >> she knows something. >> human bone or animal bone? >> she was pointing a spot on the river out on the tv. >> they're still denying they found any human remains. >> it was crazy. >> show her the bones. >> they put her in the car with brother tommy croslin. >> and let's say she has the reaction -- >> i'm serious. i was like oh, my god. >> those three grandkids of mine is involved in this, and i don't know why. >> the cops said there was a whole bunch of bricks -- >> yes, a brick. like, a brick on the floor. >> but i've never seen any bricks at all. >> they have no remorse or something. >> i'm not hiding anything. >> i didn't do it.

>> i don't know where she is. >> if i find whoever has my daughter before you all do, i'm killing them. i don't care. i'll spend the rest of my life in prison. i'm telling you, you can put it on recording. i don't care. and breaking news tonight. live, ohio. a young church mom of a 1-year-old baby girl vanishes while shopping. but now grainy surveillance video emerges of mommy with a mystery man. cops i.d. a person of interest. as we go to air last night, they i.d. him. the mystery man, tre b. hutcherson. breaking tonight, in a surprise twist, we learn it's not the first time mommy spotted with the mystery married man. his wife revealing thousands now gone from the family bank account. tonight, is the young church mom in danger or is she a runaway mom? where is young church mom tiffany tehan?

>> honey, your dad and i and your husband and your child need you to come back home. >> breaking news. law enforcement just moments ago saying they've located the 1999 red volkswagen beetle believed to be driven by tre hutcherson. >> we're just going hour by hour, day by day, and trying to do what we can to locate her safely. >> cops say he's 42-year-old tre b. hutcherson, who's unemployed and has also been missing for several days. law enforcement desperately trying to track the two down. as the local media talks to a woman claiming to be hutcherson's wife. she alleges hutcherson recently withdrew $2,000 cash and said she believes the two want to be together. >> a woman that claims to be tre hutcherson's wife told us, "he's taken off with this girl obviously together.

he's caused no harm to her, and they're together because they want to be." >> if you can make a phone call, just to let us know that you're there, that you're safe or whatever, we will make the way for you to come back. >> but would a respected mom involved in her church's ministry just leave her 1-year-old daughter behind? questions now swirling. what exactly happened to missing mom tiffany tehan? good evening. i'm nancy grace. i want to thank you for being with us. bombshell tonight. we learn while misty croslin, baby-sitter turned stepmother, stands on the docks of the st. johns river, police show her bones, bones recovered in the search for 5-year-old haleigh. then place misty croslin and brother tommy croslin together in the back of a squad car, leaving brother and sister to talk freely. was there a squad car confession? >> at this point i'm going to call it a homicide. >> local reports, police telling

ronald cummings and his family to start making funeral arrangements for haleigh. >> we're hoping to make an arrest in this case. people are finally starting to talk. >> i know one thing. misty had been out on a drug binge for three days. her and ron had fought that day. and she told him she didn't want to babysit, and he told her yes, you are going to baby sit. >> please. all we want is my child. that's it. >> he's still hoping that if misty did know something, if she was forced to do, threatened into doing. >> would you leave your kids with somebody that's all doped up? >> wjxt is reporting two cinder blocks have been pulled during that massive search in the st. johns river. >> without a body the case against haleigh's killer may have to be built entirely on circumstantial evidence. >> misty, when she first told the story about the night haleigh went missing, she said the back door was propped open with a cinder block. >> you said your back door was wide open? >> yes.

it was brick. like a brick on the floor. >> first thing i was told was that joe had killed her. >> there's so many people talking. >> i don't even know whether she was dead when she hit the water or not. >> and so few who know what they're talking about. >> what i was told by misty was that tommy and joe took haleigh and wrapped a yellow rope around her and carried her to the dock and put a -- tied a brick around the bottom of the other end of the rope and throwed her into the river. >> artharris.com reporting investigators have found a piece of yellow rope from inside brother tommy croslin's home. >> i just want my daughter back. >> we're trying to bring somebody to justice for this little girl right here and her family. and that's what this is all about. >> straight out to art harris, investigative reporter at artharris.com. you've been there in satsuma, art. you broke the story last night that misty croslin, the last person to see 5-year-old haleigh alive, was shown bones there on the dock of the st. johns. are we now learning that those were not haleigh's bones? >> nancy, the bones we first reported on your show last night, misty was shown at the

st. johns river, have been tested, and police have announced today they are animal bones. they also are saying in a press release today that she saw the bones, but they tried to downplay this, nancy, you know, by saying, my sources saying, that they have a strategy to keep the pressure on her. a calculated strategy by showing her bones in the hopes she will crack. >> wait a minute. wait a minute, art harris. hold on. to dr. marty makary, physician and professor of public health, johns hopkins, you can't get any better than that. dr. makary, is there any mistaking a deer bone with a human child bone? >> well, with weather damage and if we're talking about bone fragments, sure. there's no way a parent is going to be able to identify a bone fragment -- >> i'm talking about the police, makary, the police. >> no, the police can tell because of dna.

they can nail it with 100% certainty. >> no, i mean out there on the docks, dr. marty makary. do you think police knew that they were showing misty croslin deer bones, not little girl bones? >> you know, based on the shape of a bone, oftentimes you can make a deduction, but you need a laboratory to know with 100% certainty. otherwise, a bone can look like a bone. >> unleash the lawyers. we are taking your calls live. joining us out of the philadelphia jurisdiction, attorney anthony f. list. also with us, defense attorney new york, alan ripka. along with him, defense attorney jason oshins joining us out of new york, practicing in multiple jurisdictions. first to you, oshins. there's not a thing wrong with what police did. >> no, nancy. you know, i've got to cite you on that. that's excellent police work. they're trying to, you know, pinch one against the other, hopefully get an excited utterance like we think that might have occurred between the

two croslins in the back of the police car. really nothing to do from a defense point of view. it's protected by the hearsay rule. and you know, if it occurred, it's a tough one, nance. >> ripka? >> well, it's incredibly traumatic if she's not the one who did this. and showing somebody bones and claiming they're human bones to entice them to sort of admit to what they did could be very emotional if they're not the suspect -- >> put ripka up. emotional? that doesn't matter. emotional doesn't matter according to the constitution. don't come with me -- to me with a box of kleenex telling me it's emotional. anthony list, what about it? is there any way that they can get whatever she said in that cop car thrown out because those were not haleigh's bones, they were deer bones? >> i think the whole process was intentionally misleading -- >> so? is that against the

constitution, mr. list? >> well, that's correct. and i think dr. makary's talking as an expert -- >> that was a yes or no, anthony. this is not unconstitutional. >> you're saying it's not unconstitutional. i disagree with you. >> and what amendment? what bill of right do you believe it's violating? what was that, mr. list? >> i'm sorry. the bill of rights is that the whole investigation has to be conducted with fairness, and i don't think this was. >> whoa, fairness. i don't recall seeing that in the bill of rights. >> if misty did know something, and it's appearing, you know, based on what's going on that she did, but he's hoping it was something she was forced to do, threatened into doing and that's why she wouldn't talk to them. and oprtunity. ye

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and my source is telling me, police have obtained yellow rope from tommy croslin's home. >> i can't help you find her. i don't know where she is. >> they told the family it's time, they have enough evidence that they can start making funeral arrangements for little haleigh. >> and she told him she didn't want to baby-sit and he told her, yes you are going to baby-sit. >> bring her back. >> i know somebody took my little girl. >> just want our baby to come home. >> they brought the family members into the sheriff's office.

>> he's not as strong at home as he is on tv. >> and he left the kids there with her, and she was still strung out. >> they told him it was now a homicide investigation. >> it was the worst thing i've ever been through in my entire life. >> misty is being very coy about answering the questions. >> would you leave your kids with somebody that's all doped up? >> back to art harris, investigative journalist at artharris.com. we are taking your calls live. so, art, bottom line, i want a yes or no out of you. and that's very hard to get out of an investigative journalist. but art, bottom line, was she shown deer bones? are we sure those were not haleigh's bones? >> they are saying they were not haleigh's bones, they were either deer or alligator bones pulled from the river. the question is did police know that when they showed them to her and was the announcement today, nancy, that they were animal bones curiously close to our report on your show that they showed her bones? >> joining me right now is a special guest, the attorney for ronald cummings, terry shoemaker, joining us out of st.

augustine, florida. terry shoemaker, do you believe police knew when they showed misty croslin those bones that they were not human bones? >> i really don't know the answer to that, nancy. i do know that after reviewing them and having them, you know, looked at by the appropriate people that they have come back and said that they were animal bones. but at the time i have no idea. >> to pat brown, criminal profiler, author of "the profiler: my life hunting serial killers and psychopaths." pat brown, regardless of what the defense attorneys list, ripka, oshins, and shoemaker might tell us tonight, the reality is that police can use a trick in order to get a confession. we just saw that in the dahlia dippolito case, the woman who tried to get her husband killed six months into the marriage. she contracted with a cop who she thought was a hit man. they set the whole thing up. it was a trick. all right? that's totally constitutional.

what they can't do is beat a confession out of you, get a confession out of you without giving you miranda rights, torture you, punish you. there is a host of things they cannot do, but trickery ain't one of them, pat brown. yes/no? >> yes. well, anthony's saying you have to be fair and not misleading. i don't know what lawyers we'd have left in our defense system if that were true. but the police can do whatever they want as far as being tricky. and they could have just pulled those bones out and not said one way or another. they could have said look, here are the bones. that's their purpose, is to see if they can get her to give up a confession. that's perfectly fine. it's legal as heck. >> with me right now, another special guest, the grandmother of both misty and tommy croslin, miss flora hollars, joining us out of nashville, tennessee. miss hollars, are you now suggesting that ronald cummings, haleigh's father, may somehow be to blame for her disappearance? >> yes, ma'am.

from leaving the kids there with her. >> i'm sorry. i couldn't hear you. repeat? >> yes, ma'am. for leaving the kids there with her, with her all strung out. >> so are you convinced in your own mind that your granddaughter, misty croslin, and grandson tommy croslin and joe overstreet are all three responsible? >> yes, ma'am, i am. >> what scenario do you believe unfolded? what do you think happened that night? >> exactly what misty told me. that the rope and the cinderblocks and dropping her in the st. johns river. heel pressure.

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items have been recovered at the search site. >> the cinder blocks. >> cinder blocks. >> those cinder blocks. >> i'm not going to discuss the particular items that i've taken for analysis. >> i didn't do anything with that little girl. >> i will not be mentioning any names at this time. >> i was told by misty -- >> misty. >> misty. >> she was the last one to see our daughter. >> she says "nanny, i'm telling you everything i know." >> this is a huge river. >> tied haleigh up with a yellow rope. >> she could have potentially

been put in. >> and tied a brickle block to the rope. >> it was brick, like a brick on the floor. >> and dropped her into the st. johns river. >> i've never seen any bricks at all. >> haleigh cummings is most likely deceased. >> the only one that knows is the people that was there. >> there's not anger. >> how the [ bleep ] could you let my daughter get stole -- >> disappointment that she didn't feel as though she could come forward and tell him what may have happened that night if she, in fact, knew. >> i don't know where she is. >> i'm not hiding anything. >> i don't. >> haleigh looked back and blew us a kiss and she leaned up against the car and then she got in the car and they drove away and i never seen her again. >> straight out to the lines. out to laura in kansas. hi, laura. >> caller: hi, nancy. >> hi, dear, what's your question? >> caller: first of all, i want to tell you, you have two of the sweetest children in the whole world. >> thank you. we've been playing today like it's 1999. let me tell you. and the whole time i would look at them and thought about ron cummings coming home from work

to find his daughter, his 5-year-old little girl just gone, no real explanation, nothing, just gone, vanished. and now this. what's your question, dear? >> caller: nancy, my question is how can they trust misty croslin to tell the truth out there on that dock when this whole time she has lied and not told the truth? >> i don't think they do trust her to tell the truth. out to you, art harris. what do you make of it? >> nancy, i can tell you that they are doing everything they can to push her hot buttons. that's the reason that they took her out to the dock and took her by the bones. she told tommy in the car, i'm told, nancy, that she was upset by that and figured they were probably deer bones and that it was a police trick. so she's on to them. >> oh, no. art, how can you confirm that? >> nancy, i've -- i have sources who are aware of the conversation. >> out to the lines. melody, ohio. hi, melody.

>> caller: yes, nancy. with her being up for three days, she definitely wasn't seeing straight. do you think maybe by accident because that little girl was on medication, that she got the medications messed up and maybe actually gave her an overdose of a drug by a mistake and then the brother and the cousin, that's when they all showed up? thank you. >> melody, i don't think so. because she has flunked four polygraphs. if there had been some accident with medication, i think she would have come forward with that. unleash the lawyers. anthony f. list, alan ripka, jason oshins. also with us, from florida, terry shoemaker, the attorney for ronald cummings. what about it, anthony list? what do you make of that scenario? >> nancy, the one bit of evidence that really impresses me is the statement the grandmother made, flora hollins,

that -- or hollars that in her prison conversation over the phone this young girl described in detail what had happened. and i would put a lot of weight and credibility to that statement from a grandmother, especially under the circumstances in which it was given. we know it's admissible into evidence, and i think it's very strong evidence, stronger than anything else i've heard. and remind me to give you my impression about trickery used by police and whether or not there's a limit on that. but as far as what we were hearing so far, i think the grandmother's telling the truth. >> mr. list, i've got a feeling i already know what you think about trickery by cops, but what concerns me is the letter of the law and the constitution. but it also carries great weight that you, a defense attorney, would believe the grandmother's comment means so much because to me you're dead on about that.

because this grandmother, flora hollars, mr. list, has taken up -- taken up for and defended misty croslin from the get-go. dyed in the wool croslin supporter. in fact, if you look at that sound where she's defending her, there hanging behind her in the background is the picture of her hugging on misty croslin. and the fact that she has now reversed decisions really means a lot. and alan ripka, list says that it would come into evidence. why? >> what would come into evidence? >> what misty croslin and tommy croslin stated to their grandmother. >> well, i think it would come into evidence. i think there would be a big fight, but i think that if it has to do with the crime i think the grandmother is a reliable source, and i think the court would see the hearsay exception there. >> what about it, jason oshins? >> yeah, i'm not going to disagree with either of my peers right there. absolutely, it comes in.

there's really no issue as to why it wouldn't. >> back to flora hollars. this is misty and tommy croslin's grandmother. miss hollars, you say that you believe all three are involved, but earlier you believed that joe overstreet had basically been the ringleader. why did you believe that? >> i believe that, nancy, because of the way that when he came home he was a completely different person. and if my daughter had on a haleigh shirt he would throw his hands up and "f" it and walk out is what he would say. he met a girl, her name was haleigh. he asked her if she was 5 years old. what kind of stupidity is that? >> we are taking your calls live. out to melody in ohio. hi, melody. oh, excuse me. lost melody. jo, new york. hi, jo. >> caller: hi, nancy. i have a question in reference to the drugs they was selling. did the cops ever find out who

their supplier was and -- >> good question. what about it, ellie jostad? >> we don't know if there is somebody farther up that chain that was supplying drugs. we do know, however, that police say that misty croslin, tommy croslin, ron cummings were both selling and buying drugs to these undercover informants. >> out to marlaina schiavo, our producer, joining us there at the jailhouse. marlaina, what more can you tell me? >> well, i can tell you, nancy, that even though they keep saying about these bones and they're animal bones, they still have enough evidence to make this a homicide case, and we do know that there are items at a lab right now being tested that could be connected to this case. we're hearing a lot about cinder blocks being pulled out. we're hearing a lot about just evidence that's coming out that has caused them to -- you know, for this massive search and to make this a homicide case and to tell ronald cummings to start making funeral arrangements. >> you know, marlaina, along with the theory that cops can use trickery, if they had gone

into that room and told ronald cummings behind closed doors to start planning a funeral, do we know his response? >> it was a somber response. we know that he was asking his attorney a lot of questions about what is involved with that because the bottom line is, nancy, for him to tell a judge or go before a judge to get a death certificate, that's a really hard thing to do for a father. so he was -- you know, he didn't have a lot to say, but he was deeply saddened, obviously, by what they were telling him. >> to art harris. art, i was told from my sources that he broke down -- >> that's right. >> -- in uncontrollable tears. >> my sources told me he broke down and so did crystal sheffield. and there was no doubt, at least in law enforcement's mind, this was a genuine reaction from a very, very grieving father. >> we are taking your calls live. it has come to light that yesterday misty croslin, the

last 24 hours, was brought down to the docks of the st. johns river and shown bones dredged from the river. and led to believe they were haleigh cummings' bones, the 5-year-old little girl that went missing under her watch. they then placed her in a squad car with her brother, tommy croslin. now we learned that bones may not have been the little girl's, in fact, animal bones. to lillian glass, dr. lillian glass, psychologist and author of "toxic people," joining us out of l.a. lillian, what do you make of it? and i find it very difficult to believe that misty croslin and tommy croslin did not discuss the case in the back of that squad car. >> well, i agree with you. and what was interesting is that it was reported that emotion was noted in misty. and this is something we've never seen. we've seen her arrogant. we've seen her emotionless. we've seen her strung out. we've seen her nasty.

and now she may be softening up in terms of breaking and really telling us what really happened. so i think as you do, when she was in the squad car something must have been said to -- >> to bill majeski, former nypd, now president of majeski associates in new york. was there anything wrong with what cops did? >> no, absolutely not. i thought it was very clever on their part. as a matter of fact, i'm surprised it took them so long to do something like that, but sure, any effort they can make in terms of trickery, trickery's used all the time in law enforcement, and it's used quite successfully. and why not? especially in a case like this. >> correct and succinct. everyone, as we go to break tonight, we are asking for thoughts and prayers for mary claire blackshaw. she's a young mom in the fight of her life, battling bone cancer. mary claire, we all join together tonight, and we are praying. now, you please stay strong.

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conclusions on a picture. >> cops say this man is 42-year-old tre b. hutcherson, who's also been missing for several days and may be with tiffany. cops now say the fbi is involved. >> pictures don't prove anything. and so what we're just trying to do is wait. >> i'm here by myself. i'm just trying to get moved to california, and i'm just trying to move on. >> as police checking passenger airline manifests out of dayton airport but haven't spotted the two on any list. still, no activity from either hutcherson's or tiffany's cell phone or atm cards. >> as we know it, her day was operating as it was supposed to operate. >> tiffany's husband, david tehan, says he doesn't care what's going on, he just wants tiffany to come back. >> we love you. we care about you. and if you could see the expression of love here, you would understand how much we need for you to come back home now. >> straight out to katie wright,

reporter with the "hillsborough times-gazette," joining us there at the search headquarters. katie, thank you for being with us. what's the update? >> right now, nancy, we do know that within 24 hours after tre b. hutcherson was listed as a person of interest in the case, or after he was identified, they did locate the red volkswagen beetle belonging, or believing to belong to him in north dayton. however, police are still searching for tiffany as well as tre hutcherson, and they are i believe processing the car probably as we speak. >> to clark goldband, our producer on the story. clark, what happened? between when we first heard about this story, a missing mom with a flat tire out shopping, in fact going to a consignment sale for mommies for gently used clothes for her 1-year-old daughter, and suddenly all this video turns up of her with this guy, hutcherson? when was the video? what are they doing in the video?

>> well, that's right, nancy. in fact, several surveillance shots have emerged. they were taken in the past few months within weeks, two to three weeks, law enforcement said this afternoon, at a local circle k convenience store, nancy, just a few feet from where this mom works at an insurance agency. >> okay. circle k convenience store. what were they doing in there? >> now, nancy, we've learned this afternoon from press reports that the clerk in the circle k says they've popped in multiple times, almost every day in the past few weeks, to buy coffee. it didn't seem like they were romantically involved. they were just friends. >> okay. wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. they come in every day together, they buy coffee, do they sit there in the circle k and drink the coffee? >> not that we know of. the clerk just says they come in to purchase the coffee. >> they come in and buy the coffee. all right. did she have a job, clark goldband? >> yes, nancy. she had a job at an insurance agency. and in fact she was the only female employee of that insurance -- i'm sorry. >> what about him? did he have a job?

>> no. he's unemployed, and he's also married. >> married? >> yes. >> children? >> not that we know of. but his wife, nancy, in press reports said that he recently withdrew $2,000 in cash right before he took off. >> we are taking your calls live. joining us right now is captain scott anger with the xenia police department. captain anger, welcome. and please tell us what your department is doing to find 31-year-old tiffany tehan. >> we're doing everything within our power right now, within our capabilities, to try to find out the truth and bring tiffany home safely. at this point we're trying to use all of our available sources. and as you've stated, we've used other agencies, to be very helpful in bringing this to hopefully a good resolution. >> are you talking about the fbi? >> the fbi has been involved and has helped us in this case. >> what is the fbi doing?

>> right now we've just used the fbi for some of their specialties, and i can't elaborate on that. >> hmm. their specialties. to bill majeski, former nypd, what specialty would they be using the fbi for? >> well, perhaps some analysis of computers. if she had access to a computer, they may be looking into that to see if there was some kind of a relationship that was budding as a result of computer communication. other than that, you know, i can't see anything that they would -- unless they have found some kind of evidence that they want analyzed in some way. >> right. with us right now, special guest joining us from search headquarters in the search for 31-year-old tiffany tehan, a young church mom, and we call her that because she's so heavily involved with her church. the mother of a 1-year-old little girl. her father is with us.

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