tv [untitled] October 22, 2023 10:30pm-11:01pm IRST
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[000:00:38;00] in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful, ladies and gentlemen, hello, welcome to the world. today, i am hosni sadad shabiri. i will accompany you in this program for an hour . the issue of palestinian developments is still the priority of today's world program, and today and tonight
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we will discuss the different aspects of the palestinian issue. payment, but a few minutes ago, i can say that the minister of foreign affairs of our country, mr. amir abdullahian, wrote a letter to the minister of foreign affairs of the vatican and emphasized that in this sensitive and decisive situation , it is the duty of all followers of the ebrahimian religions to defend the rights and lives of the palestinian people. our country has specified the terrible crime of the zionist regime's attack on the amdani hospital and the bombing of the historic church in gaza where children and women were sheltering show another side of the brutal nature of the zionist regime. however, the foreign ministers of iran and imran also
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consulted on the ways of helping islamic countries to the palestinian people. the immediate cessation of the killing of the palestinian people, especially women and children, the immediate lifting of the blockade of the gaza strip and the sending of humanitarian aid , as well as the firm opposition to the forced migration of the residents of the gaza strip, were among the issues that were emphasized in this telephone conversation. in a telephone conversation with the foreign minister of luxemburg, the actions of the palestinian resistance groups to counter the occupation are based on international law . as soon as the tension ends . but the foreign minister of our country also had a telephone conversation with the foreign minister of egypt. as you are aware, egypt has a vital highway to gaza, which
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is discussed with the egyptian foreign minister about sending humanitarian aid through this highway. and both sides stressed that the tensions in the gaza region must end, but the 3 plus 3 meeting with the presence of the foreign ministers of the republic of azerbaijan , armenia, russia, turkey and iran will be held in tehran tomorrow. the meeting examines regional issues and ways to expand cooperation. one of the most important goals of this mechanism is to solve the problems of the south caucasus with the presence of member states without the interference of the countries beyond the region. in this framework, one of the axes of the tehran meeting is the peace talks between the two republics of azerbaijan and armenia. first meeting 3 plus
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3 was held at the level of deputy foreign ministers two years ago in moscow. georgia is a member of the 3 plus 3 negotiation mechanism, which does not participate in this meeting due to some political and foreign policy considerations. we are going to talk about this issue with mr. shoaib bahman, an expert on caucasus issues, in the jahan program today. as soon as we establish contact , we will have questions about the tehran meeting. if this connection is established, let me know, colleagues. if not, let's go to the next news. well, today's world , we will continue with the issue of palestine. people's demonstrations in support of the oppression of the palestinian people continue in the regions demonstrators in
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the new york times described the possible attack of the zionist regime on the gaza strip as a terrible mistake. in the article of the new york times , the famous american journalist thomas friedman said that if israel enters gaza , it will make a big mistake. this is wrong for israel's interests and america will be devastating. friedman repeated the recent statement of us president joe biden to the zionists, who asked this regime to learn from america's mistakes after september 11, 2000. this american journalist described gaza as a prisoner and reminded that if netanyahu conducts a ground operation against the zionist forces , all of israel will be imprisoned in gaza . right now, there is a gap between the entry of other
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raw palestinian resistance groups into the war with israel i would like to talk to mr. mustafa moslehzadeh, the former ambassador of iran in jordan, about the land invasion of kalash and prospects. hello, mr. moslehzadeh . there are speculations about the possibility of the zionist regime invading gaza . this claim has been made since the beginning of the conflict. maybe they had started his psychological war. let's hear your introduction about this discussion. first
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, in the name of god, the most merciful, the most merciful, greetings to you and dear viewers . of course, i think that we are talking about an israeli who has passed his prime. i don't know if there is a chance for this chart israel's power is not a bad thing, it means we are working with this chart anyway , please take a look at israel since it formed its government in 1948, its power began to peak, yes, it started to peak. the more his power went forward, the peak of his power reached its maximum, that is, in the 1948 war, when he won over the arab armies , the 56 war was again a victory on the israeli side,
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of course, england and france were completely on the side of israel in the 1967 war, which was a wonderful victory. within 6 days, he defeated 3 arab armies , one of which was an egyptian army with that extraordinary power its ground and air forces were completely paralyzed in 6 days, which means that israel has shown that it has no coordination in the entire region, when you see an army with 3 armies in the east, west and almost in the northeast fighting at the same time and it will win in 6 days . the day will be won. please understand this item carefully. it is extraordinary, it means that it is basically unimaginable. of course, the director of these battles is completely america as the superior, which
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provides israel with weapons, second information to israel, and helps it in the organization. nations , so as not to be subject to summary insurance there a resolution should be issued so that we reach the war of 1973. well, these armies of the east and west of israel will start a war again. to do this is to start a war unlike in 67 when israel started and pinned everyone to the ground, and at first they won, but again this legend of the power of the israeli army showed itself like a magic lamp, that is, it showed itself like a magic lamp giant, and suddenly the whole war path turned. all the victories that masar had achieved were not
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only lost and defeated, but parts of egypt and syria were also taken by israel, that is, they took the sinai desert from egypt and the golan from syria. it was taken again in 1967, so here it is, it is approaching the peak of its power, here it is almost no longer the military power of israel , it proved its superiority to everyone in the war of 1973, that is, no army can imagine that it will somehow be able to attack when it attacks. when it defends itself against the israeli army, it is over, that is, all imaginations have collapsed until we reach the 798, which will gain legitimacy . until now, israel
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is reaching the peak of its military power. in 1978, its legitimacy reached its peak, that is , egypt as the most powerful regional and arab state, which, of course, was not abdul nasser at that time. who was the great leader of the islamic world, the arab world, he was no longer his successor, anwar sadad, anwar sadat surrendered, that is, he raised his hands , signed a peace agreement, but not a peace that would be a just peace , he completely surrendered, that is, he gave all necessary concessions to israel, even up to now. you see, this kind of rating of egyptian education textbooks was supposed to be controlled so that nothing against israel is written, that is, peace at this level is a peace only on the border between egypt and israel, for example , and there is no war, not because israel has an embassy
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and egypt . also, the embassy in israel, not for the lifetime of the ministry egypt's education has also sunk into israel. you said this peak, where did it come from? well, from now on, this is almost the maximum of israel's power , what is its military power and what legitimacy it has gained here, little by little. if i want to show the viewers, it means this process. which started from 1948 to 1979, it will continue almost like this for a few years, that is, after this peace agreement with jordan , you have rarely seen something similar to the peace that he signed with egypt 93 94 and peace with himself . the palestinians, led by arafat, sign
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the famous oslo accords the military does not need to show its power because its power is now gaining legitimacy, that is, if i want to sum up the power of legitimacy and military power, let's assume that here it is now 93 94 , the peak of both military power and the acquisition of legitimacy is 3 to, of course, 2 governments. egypt and jordan are signing a peace agreement, of course, i said peace, khaftbar, and the palestinians themselves are signing peace and declaring that they are not self-governing organizations, and arafat is doing this as the head of the palestine liberation organization. a customary representative is not an official representative. look, for example, we say when
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that anwar sadad is the president of egypt, well, we are not saying that all egyptians accept it, we are saying that the official representative of egypt, anwar sadad , has come as the official representative of egypt and signed the document. yes, but it seems that the representation in the palestinian issue is a bit different from other countries. of course, nazem is saying this sentence in this way . you see, the palestine liberation organization is made up of many palestinian groups. anyway , you can't bring one group to the negotiating table and make them official. to recognize. in any case, the most official group, that is, in the united nations, yasser arfad went to give speeches to the representative of palestine in all countries, as the representative of palestine, arafat was on the side of the negotiations , as his official position, i am saying that it is not the people's issue, the fact
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that he is the people is another issue. which i don't want to discuss now, anyway, this is the same period that i am saying that the military power is gaining legitimacy in 1994, but next to this process of the peak of power, another process is starting, and that process started in 1982. in lebanon, it means when israel entered lebanon in 1982. i am here i want to give a good example, and then i will reach the decline of the first growth in the first place in the graph , where we reach the decline of israel's power. by the way, this will help us later on to gaza
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, that is, israel entered lebanon in 198. it took approximately a few days to reach beirut, maybe two or two and a half days, three days. who is the felsin liberation organization, the same organization that will of course surrender later here? now i want to say that the starting point of the surrender of the liberation organization we will send to the leadership of arafat is here, the israeli army now because there is no time. i want to quickly reach the end of this process. the entire palestine liberation organization raises their hands, surrenders, surrenders their weapons, puts down their weapons and gets on the ship. you will see how many days the most important people claim to be palestine. because the smooth guerrillas, the guerrillas of the al-alastin organization, are in fact the most powerful partners of the palestinians, there are other
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groups, and they surrendered them all. well, now this is the era of the peak of 82. you know, you are still the peak of the era. in the era i want to compare this let's get to whether there is a possibility that the ground forces of the zionist regime will enter, well, i said this for the reason that now 206 israel is doing the same thing and entering lebanon, similar to what it did in 198, but this time it is on the side of the liberation organization . palestine is not lebanon's hezbollah, lebanon's hezbollah, because later we have hezbollah in gaza, this is the beginning of a new story that will show us the decline of israel, so israel will start the 206 war exactly with lebanon's 198 model, when it reaches beirut in a few days. kurd, but he did not reach beirut, he was advancing first in the south of lebanon
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first, he came back because of his ability, but why was he able to see that no force can resist against the israeli ground army. there is only one problem, except that the egyptians couldn't and the syrians couldn't in the 73 war. that problem is here . when israel fought with the palestinians, it fought on the ground and the palestinians surrendered. but here, when it entered lebanon , look at hezbollah's lebanon, which is similar to hamas and jihad's gaza. there is a lebanon you have on earth. and there is an underground lebanon, that is exactly the same lebanon that you see on the ground, underground to the same extent in the entire territory of lebanon, there are underground cities.
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he wanted 208 and 2014 as well, why did i say through the ground, the decline of israel starts from here, and then it reaches gaza, look at israel , exactly the beginning of 2020 was like the beginning of this gaza war , hezbollah came into the israeli areas, took two prisoners and left. in lebanon, this time the case is hundreds of times more captive. he took hundreds of thousands of hizbullah captives , he went into lebanon, but i want to say that you can see that the example is very similar to israel. it destroyed the land of lebanon, that is, of course, the shiite part, because the south of lebanon is mainly part of the shiite part of lebanon, that is, because i
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went there after the lebanon war, i saw closely what israel did to lebanon, almost nothing was left intact in that shiite area of pul road. the hospital, the power plant, the administrative buildings, had nothing healthy, that is, they say that the ground was hit by a person , that is how we should say it, so what happened when the lebanese ground made a joke, why did it fail? and hezbollah is actually the power of hezbollah underground and when he showed his power, they shoot rockets from underground and go underground again , or hit the tank with anti-tank missiles , mr. massarzadeh, i want to ask ehud barak, the former prime minister of the zionist regime.
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he warned and said that the people of gaza are afraid of entering gaza because of the same thing that you are talking about. israel can enter gaza , it can turn all of gaza into ruins with tanks, cannons, and aerial bombardments, and then come to the burnt ground . show me that i i am, but you can stay. you can see that in the lebanon war, 33 days of israel is on the ground but they hit israel from underground, that means they come up, hit them, go underground, and israel came back, that is, they stayed for 33 days and came back with a large number of dead and a large number of destroyed tanks. why is israel such a big failure? but many experts believe that the ground force of the zionist regime
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is not as capable as the air force and now it is not for air strikes. it has air support and it also has naval support, which means that israel, lebanon, and gaza are all on the shore of the sea, which means that support is provided from there, and the ground is supported by the sea and the air . of course, this happened once, that is, the time after, that is, once after lebanon, the israeli army entered gaza, but why did it return because of the same gaza underground, not gaza on the ground, gaza on the ground, which cannot do anything against israel now, underground gaza is much wider and more resistant than gaza
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2008 and gaza in 2014, gaza now has numerous cities underground , as you know, many hamas leaders are now living underground. kill them because they are not on the ground to kill them, they are all living in the underground canals, they are living in the current situation , the weapons are under the ground and the leader, see why now israel is doing everything, hospitals , i don't know, schools, bakers. what is the market for? what on earth is a gun? hamas and islamic jihad don't have all their weapon bases under israel's control, that's all. i mean, if you read the reports, they say that today was the market today . israel hit the market a few days ago. it hit hospitals and schools . so far, it has hit some 51 health centers. instead
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of hitting 51 military barracks , israel should hit 51 health centers because it has nothing else. gaza is gaza, and by the way, israel's crime is because everyone knows that your military barracks on the ground are not gaza, so why does israel attack? no, gaza is all that you are looking at now. anyway, it is the goal of the zionist regime , no, i want to say that those who justify it, i know that the goal is to reduce the palestinian population, make it boring, reduce the population, and then now i will mention his recent strategy in gaza. i will tell you in general. then i will tell you which strategy is being implemented in gaza . the general strategy of the israeli government is that , first of all, the palestinians are within this area of the plan that he has named israel, and we call it israel.
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let the number of palestinians decrease little by little that is to say, through killings and all kinds of pressures that israel is trying to reduce, we are the ones who are alive and will continue to live. they will go to other countries anyway , that is, because of now, look at the strategy that israel is now using in gaza. continue the tactic at the same time for a long time. the same bombings have been going on for some time now. it started on saturday the 15th. it has been going on for almost 16 days . so these bombings will continue, but you believe that the ground entry is done. it doesn't work because
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the resistance force is of a military style you can't imagine the victory, how does he want to surrender ghazal, with this continuous clause, which i think will continue, that is, america's intention is to continue this siege of gaza until food, medicine, water and fuel become so scarce that people die. gazans will either die of severe hunger or be forced to leave gaza, one of these two, they will either die or leave gaza, see when these conditions are so great. up to these 20 trucks that left rafah yesterday, do you think that, according to the palestinians , 2 to 3 percent of the need is now 97 percent , and israel will keep it as it is? palestinian people, in this situation, it is not necessary to enter gaza from america 's point of view. i don't need to say my last sentence . they have been saying since the beginning of this war
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that we want this tactic of netanyahu to exist . when the war is over, they will call the regime. look at how many scenarios there are. i think i can tell you in a minute. otherwise, if netanyahu does not enter gaza, he will fall . netanyahu's government will fall. if he enters gaza , he will fall back from gaza. if he enters gaza, he will fight for a while and then he will be forced to if he returns to the un forces, he will return, but if he returns to the forces, he will have to fall, that means all the ways for netanyahu are death , the only way for netanyahu to continue his life is to continue the war, which means that the war will not end. that's what strachi said. they put themselves and the result of this war will be the continuation of the war anyway, not the resistance forces
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, they will continue the war, that is, when israel wants to continue this war with the american strategy, continuous bombings during repeated weeks, lectures, hunger, etc. continuous awakening during the period this is a long war and netanyahu will continue. of course, the united states does not allow netanyahu to enter gaza because it knows that netanyahu will fail and it is better not to enter, but in this way he wants to make the people of gaza surrender, which is the american strategy to surrender to gaza . with these two tactics
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