[000:00:00;00] dear viewer, thank you very much for being with us and answering our questions . have a good time. goodbye. in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful, ladies and gentlemen, hello, welcome to the world. today, i am hosni sadad shabiri. i will accompany you in this program for an hour . iran's foreign minister warned the united states that if the scope of the conflict in palestine is not controlled

, it will not be safe, mr. the viji meeting of the united nations general assembly recognized washington's direct participation in the crime against the people of gaza as a violation of the united nations charter and asked the international community to make them answer. be made to answer. from this day, america is also in crime against people. palestine participates and interestingly, it invites others to self-restraint and prevent the spread of conflicts and violence. mr. amir abdollahian, referring to the continued support of the united states and some european countries

, asked them to support the killing of the people of gaza. end the genocide in palestine. the minister of foreign affairs said clearly: west asia is our region, we do not compromise with any side in terms of home security. we will not get along with any party or country if they endanger our region. referring to iran's opposition to the expansion of conflicts, the minister of foreign affairs said: if those do not want the war to expand in the occupied territories, they should put pressure on the zionist regime, which is a crime. stop the war an interesting part in the foreign minister's speech was the reference to the readiness of the palestinian resistance leaders to release the civilian prisoners, and mr. amir abdullahian announced that iran would come to mediate in this regard. hamas and palestinian freedom movement are ready

to end the us secretary of state as the main unconditional supporter of the zionists. he knows the reason for the failure of the efforts to determine the fate of the palestinian nation in the security council and emphasized that he expects a very strong resolution to be passed in the un general assembly, which calls for an immediate end to the violence and the generation of civilian priests . regarding the developments in palestine , we are the guest of the host, mr. ebrahim motaghi, professor of the international relations department of tehran university. mr. motaghi, greetings to you. hello , good night. i want

to start with a quote from the prime minister of the zionist regime, who emphasized mr. netanyahu that we are fighting for survival. and israel is in a conflict between life and death, do you think that the american foreign policy apparatus has the same view and thinks that it has reached this stage in supporting this regime ? we must analyze the discussions of netanyahu and all the israeli authorities in the context of our zionist literature and ontology. well , you and analyze it now, let's go into that space , in that context. a concept

is used to indicate that actions are first hamas has been able to deal a serious blow to the identity and even the security of israel. the second point is that the israelis' policy is aggressive countermeasures . there is a type of talmudic literature, and this talmudic literature emphasizes revenge. if it is not taken in those circumstances, the countries will be in a weak situation, this is the reason why the leaders of israel , including netanyahu, argue that their violent actions and their genocide are an effort for others

when they use this literature first. they justify their policies and actions like any other a country can use all available tools for its own security. the second point is that it makes the other party understand that if you take any low-intensity warning action , you will face a very strong reaction, mr. motaghi, so you believe that in some sense we have we see that netanyahu claims weakness, but there is so much space against the zionist regime that he prefers to go into the shell of weakness and say that if we don't do this, we will perish. the other party

will be in a situation of feeling more pervasive threat there is one point, and that is that netanyahu's israel is in an atmosphere of surprise, and surprise is not only a sign of weakness, but also a sign of tactical failure. all analysts, including friedman , point out that hamas won a tactical victory in dealing with israel. but it is natural that the strategic results of this victory are influenced by the role of great powers. the international institutions are the severity of israel's retaliatory measures and the support

that britain and the united states have directly from israel. these are not controlling measures, they are measures that increase the intensity of the conflicts, increase the intensity of the oppression of the people of gaza. israeli thinking is a type of all-sided punishment, that is, you don't see any rights, and no international rule can justify such a policy and behavioral pattern. while england, the united states and france as well. we are among the actors who not only justify but also use all-round direct support in relation to the israelis. we saw today that mr. amir abdullahian

addressed the americans directly in the general assembly and warned them. america gave on the other hand, we know that america is utilitarian in its foreign policy, pragmatic and utilitarian, but now we are seeing that in the region where america is targeted, i can point to the iraqi resistance forces that targeted the ain al-aswad base today. in your opinion, how far does america go? he continues, how much do we take into account its interests, that is, its interest demands, how far is the basis of this? look, israel is one of the vital interests of america. american bases in the region are among

the main interests of countries. america's support based on the pragmatic and pragmatist idea that you correctly expressed requires that israel provide more support. the americans' tactic is to prevent the development of war in the first stage , that is, to create conditions for the people of the gaza strip will be exposed to heavy bombardment, after that america and israel will not take any restrictive measures for the development of the war. the current situation is a very critical and serious situation for all countries. if a ground attack

is carried out on gaza, it will be a very bloody atmosphere and situation it exists both for the israeli era and for the people of gaza, therefore, the strategic rationality for israel and america is such that it requires them to avoid the expansion of the war, the escalation of the crisis and the intensification of the conflicting parties in the current environment, but the existing evidence of this situation it does not show that we should expect drastic actions in the future, actions that will be very bloody and involve many parties from all involved parties . do you think that this emergency meeting that was held today in the general assembly can

reach a resolution? make the resolution of the general assembly effective it is not much, then it goes to the security council. the main discussion that exists is that the security council itself can veto any resolution that comes and wants to limit israel's hostile policies with the three votes of the united states, england and france. now it has been vetoed. therefore, the americans are by no means determined to limit israel's freedom of action in its aggressive action against the people of gaza, hamas and the resistance movements . and... as a

high-level sensor, he is trying to measure the relative situation of israel israel's strategic position has been destroyed. israelis played a central role in the security of the middle east in a historical era, but today they cannot provide for their own security. the united states should create this tactical and strategic new generation for the israelis based on its policies. this is the reason why the existing policies are policies that escalate crises and conflicts. we will return to your conversation, mr. muntaghi. i still have some questions for you. before that, we want to see a picture of gaza . gaza city from the tongue

al-aqsa palestinian correspondent hears. behind me you can see the vast amount of destruction. buildings and apartments have completely collapsed . even the dead bodies are not spared. this is a crime against humanity and aliens living in their homes. you can see the vast amount of devastation, the amount of this devastation is very, very, very extensive, so that it cannot fit into the human mind, no face is capable of describing it, and language is also unable to describe it. the past is to the people's houses, some of these people were from the plains, some were jewish

there were medical staff and some were sick. we are continuing the discussions about the palestinian issue in the world today. we are now in touch with mr. thomas feing, a german political analyst, who is of course in azerbaijan. hello, mr. fein . i would like to know how you analyze the behavior of the united states after the al-aqsa storm operation. ? can you hear me? apparently not established with mr. fing, if they have our voice to talk to them, if not, let's go back to the conversation with mr. motaghi, who

is with us in the studio, well, mr. motaghi, my next question is about a discourse or a common discussion about. palestinian and that the idea of ​​forming two countries in the geography of palestine is being proposed by the american president. i saw the conference in jeddah when i saw the organization of islamic cooperation. many people put forward this idea. he puts forward the idea that a state should be formed for the palestinians in the same geography, in a part of that geography , but in practice he promotes the same unilateralisms and israel, in your opinion, over time and for analysis look at the future of this, where

israel has reached security council resolution 242 the united nations has not implemented resolution 338 of the united nations security council . it does not pay any attention to the global public opinion, which is mainly emphasized in the general assembly. it is interesting to note here that the declared policy of the united states , france, germany, and the united kingdom is entirely in support of the situation is two-state, but the israelis never accepted the issue of statehood for the palestinian government. their problem is that they are a self-governing actor and have very limited freedom of action in the domestic sphere. israelis see the palestinian issue as an identity issue.

well, it is natural that if the palestinian state is formed, later the question will be raised about the historical background of this state. where has it been what is the situation of its geographical background, that is, its existence is being questioned in general , and israel's existence is being questioned based on its military power, as well as the military and security support it has received from major powers. but the main and more serious issue is related to israel's legitimacy and identity. and so, in your opinion, it is not possible, that is, you cannot see in the future that we have a murder plan .

don't have any doubts after israel's very brutal actions against the people of gaza and the palestinian revolutionary movements. resistance is restored again. why is it restored? because palestine has an identity, a history, a background. no matter how much it is suppressed, no matter how much its cadres and its citizens are destroyed. it grows again. there are 6 generations, palestinians 6 to 12 years of identity. keeping themselves from 1948 until today is unprecedented in history , it shows that the palestinian identity remains and

the best way is to form a palestinian state. and the americans should refrain from the violence and unilateral actions of israel, which is based on the exercise of power and the support of the united states . we will come back to talk with you, mr. motaghi . i want to ask , how do you analyze america's behavior after the al-aqsaad storm operation? what is your assessment about the us administration's response and

behavior afterwards? well, unfortunately, we have a problem with the translator's voice , we will try to establish this connection as soon as the problem is fixed let's do it, mr. motaghi , we in the region now especially, maybe it can be said that the interpretation of the world has been applied . they are worried that after the full support

of the united states and some european countries, the zionist regime will lose its support , ukraine and the public opinion of the world has stopped supporting palestine and ukraine has been marginalized. maybe it's not a bad interpretation, what changed after the developments in gaza, ukrainians should look at this it is a real problem to be in the strategic trap of america and england. the british are the main focus of highlighting the crisis of ukraine and shaping the public mobilization in europe against russia. but the fact is that nato countries did not provide much support to ukraine. although the ukrainians put up a lot of resistance against the russians and

many thought that the russian operation in ukraine would end in a limited time, but in the current environment , we saw that the nato member countries provided arms and economic support to ukraine. but severely limited but the situation of israel for america, england, france and germany , the situation in ukraine is completely different. the issue of ukraine was an excuse for a new cold war in the regional environment , while the issue of israel for the three european actors and the united states is part of the equation of power and security and aggressive actions in

the middle east and southwest asia, so ukraine it was concluded that it is not considered a central actor in american politics, otherwise the same support that america and england provided to israel would also provide the same support to ukraine in general, european countries and america and nato members put ukraine in a minefield that can create challenges against russia , especially in the area of ​​the crimean peninsula, because the americans are not sure that the russians can have land access to that area

, but the fact is that russia's strategy is to gain access to crimea, and it considers crimea a part of its national security, because if it does not have this access , its ability to move in europe will be very limited. the situation in palestine is a very serious issue for the americans, because of israel. americans are really concerned about the movement the resistance in palestine was able to achieve a surplus of power , the balance of power has changed. whenever the balance changes, a kind of war and conflict

occurs. the preemptive actions of hamas against israel and in the city that the israelis are building show that a new form of balance has been created and this widespread destruction of gaza and mass killing, which in my opinion is considered genocide and should definitely be included in the political and international literature of all countries should condemn and confront israel's acts of genocide. america's support

is intensifying israel's operations against the people of gaza in the air and in the future on the ground. this itself is considered as an extension of the crisis. thank you. how do i analyze al-aqsaar? please, at the moment, the us is sending weapons to israel, strengthening the iron dome , and practically taking over the command, and the ground command is practically in the hands of the americans, and in my opinion , the americans even the type of targets that

they determine what should be targeted for the israelis and all the strategies and leaders that must be identified for this war have proven themselves in operations and have failed many times in this case . in my opinion, america is currently trying to show its presence and prevent the opening of a second front for israel . prevent and send this signal to other countries that if you want to open a second front for israel , you are facing a superpower. but we see that american bases are

being targeted all over west asia, and this so-called. it doesn't even have the ability to defend itself in the middle east, mr. fenik, i want it i would also like to ask you this question because you are especially following german politics and analyzing them. i want to know how the german government, the german government can be said in a word, how can it do something in front of its own public opinion, such as a demonstration in support of the palestinian people. with difficulty. to be held or it sets conditions for the way of holding demonstrations and in general we can do it in such a way that it does not allow the support in germany to be given to the palestinian people as it should be. specifically , i want to know how

he responds to his support for the zionist regime in front of public opinion. in fact, this is a criminal policy that the german government has pursued in support of israel, and for this example , this is not only in germany. there is an opinion that it is a normal thing in democracies, but this is a very big lie, they don't

want to allow it in any way. palestine