[000:00:00;00] i will start the conversation with mr. hilalat. mr. hilalat, if we want to have a summary regarding the situation of the past two or three days, we witnessed that negotiations were going on indirectly between hamas and the zionist regime for the exchange of prisoners, but at one time the zionist regime regarding the limited ground operation in gaza, of course, what he had said at the beginning was that he would conduct a full-scale war, but this has come to a limited operation, and now they want to enter in a few places, especially in agricultural and non-residential areas, then that's it. the discussion

of negotiation made estra a bit of a challenge today we had a report by bloomberg in america that the zionist regime may want to continue such an operation in gaza from 6 weeks to 6 months . i want to know your analysis of the point where the zionist regime is now and what they want to do. in the following, first of all, i would like to say hello and politely to you and the respected viewers, please see this is both the field situation and the discussion of negotiations for the evening prisoners of both sides. what does it mean to take these two cases forward together? this is what happened. you see, now the management inside the regime is not done by the zionists, that is, since almost the second or third day, the management and management environment in all political, diplomatic, security, military and

even media fields is being done by the americans and it is taking shape. for this reason, the case of prisoners of war with the case of field operations, now in a limited or full capacity, is completely a matter of the plan and the americans are managing the space , and these should not be analyzed separately, but should be analyzed in a single format . looking for achievement means looking for there is an achievement because after the al-aqsa storm operation, the structure that he had created for himself in the region and the united states for the regime, both at the regional level and in the international system , collapsed in order to return it. the possibility of his return, or the interpretation that was given, is irreparable, but he wants to at least preserve the structure

, like a building that is collapsing . we are talking about the operation you can use the military for up to 6 months, even in the first days, now even if it is supposed to be real , you can see the regime today. mr. netanyahu's words were that if there is a ceasefire, it means surrender, it means we have officially lost the war . the media raised the same issue and said that if a ceasefire is agreed upon, it means surrendering to hamas and they will not leave. because of this, the zionist regime did not achieve anything after october 7, nor did you see any achievements. no diplomatic, the only thing that is diplomatic now is that resolution the americans vetoed the resolution in the security council, which was the resolution of brazil and russia

, but that resolution was against the zionist regime, and the international atmosphere of your public opinion in european countries , even though you say let's go, it means that you have lost the diplomatic atmosphere, that is, in every field. check it out, yes, the regime has failed, but now because the management of space is in the hands of the americans , they are trying to build this and restore the shape that existed for the regime before october 7th, that's why mr. nas spoke in the first days. he suggested that we can do this the war is a hard and long war for both, which means that the public opinion inside the zionist regime is moving in this direction. sir, this time the battle is completely different from the previous battles, the 200-day battle of 22 days, and even the battle of 206. why?

it is different because this issue has undermined the existence of the regime, that is enough about the issue of al-aqsa storm operation, the issue happened on the 7th of october, the issue of the existence and survival of the regime is because of this, mr. netun , i think clearly, bringing up the word existence comes to my mind. at least three or four zionist officials said after the al-aqsa storm that this time the entity has been targeted. thank you very much, mr. helad. we are in contact with mr. sadeghi, an expert on west asian issues. happened, and with a general look at the process and the course of developments that we have seen in these two weeks, almost in these more than two weeks, the point that we should pay attention to is that from the week of october, when

we actually witnessed the start of the al-aqsasai storm operation. we were the axis of the palestinian resistance until now azan of many experts, like many experts and analysts in this field, has the upper hand and in fact the power is in the hands of the resistance axis, because step by step, day by day and from one place to another, we have witnessed that the palestinian resistance is actually a surprise. numerous incidents at different intelligence and military levels caused an intelligence and security confusion for the regime , which until now we are witnessing this confusion, and we are now witnessing the direct and public

involvement of the us in the management at different levels. take, see, mr. halalat, that the americans are from they support the zionist regime, well, this is not a new thing since the beginning of the establishment of this regime and this support has been in previous wars as well. what is the reason that the amount of support has reached an unprecedented level for you? yes. see, we have to admit that the recent operation of the al -aqsa resistance axis was a security surprise on many levels for the zionist regime. and because of this existing security surprise is actually a fundamental confusion. a fundamental ambiguity for the zionist regime in many areas of its governance in its management has caused such confusion. the americans

have entered and are now apparently america's support is getting help in the military and intelligence fields, but we are witnessing that now the americans are expanding their interactions in even the economic fields and support and even the economic logistics of the israelis so that they can actually help the zionist regime to pass. from this crisis that he has faced, the problem that exists, the problem that exists here is that day by day, as this situation progresses, the party that pays the most and suffers the most is the zionist regime, which in its economic level is at the level of in fact, his general governance and at the level of... the military intelligence has a serious problem and it is causing more damage day by day

. at all levels , if he accepts the ceasefire right now , the 6,000 palestinians imprisoned in the prisons of the zionist regime will be freed in the evening. listen, and now this is the story of the occupation that was captured in gaza, well , anyway, the regime will not get out of this war, what do you think the zionist regime wants to do? especially since these announcements in the media for several days in different ways that the battle will be long may take several months with the resolution that you said that these promises of prolongation are real or not , it is considered a psychological war. you see, this thing that is characteristic is that the loser of this field and this arena will be the zionist regime in the end , if we proceed with the same process, because in such a conflict and

in such a confrontation with a strict military system, the side that can win in times and different places will apply different surprises with the current conditions of the zionist regime in the region in the international arena, it is losing its partners and its supporters, there are various protests in the countries of the region, countries where the zionist regime and leaders have been trying to advance the normalization project for years, now there are popular protests against them in these countries, so first of all, it is clear that with the current situation, the loser of this principle is the zionist regime , that's why the israelis are trying to take some

military measures. gaza is under their own occupation bring and attack the previous areas , which is already a failed plan based on the statements of military experts, that is, a plan that should at least be said to be a long-term plan of this kind of military action, because they will face an urban war, an urban war in lands where there is more than underground resistance under these lands and clearing them will take a lot of time, and they want to play in the resistance land and enter, that's why they are looking for, in my opinion, to be able to with a ground action at least with they use media tools to make themselves appear victorious, but this is natural

it cannot be realized with the scale and variety announced so far. thank you. i had a conversation with mohammadme sadeghi, an expert on west asian issues, but an hour ago i had a separate conversation with mr. bassam khalaf, a member of the political leadership of the hamas movement in lebanon, about the same situation the zionists are in and their decisions. we will continue the conversation with mr. halalad, in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful. the objective of the attack on gaza is to eliminate the movement of hamas . prime minister al-sahoni has announced this objective. the zionist regime has announced that the aim of the attack on gaza is to destroy hamas and claimed that this goal will be achieved. he wants to be in front of the public opinion of the zionist regime by announcing the big goal of the big shock of the al-aqsa storm operation in the week. oktober should get rid of it and

he has talked many times about a ground attack on the gaza strip, but so far he has been unable to do so because he knows the amount of damage that the zionist regime's army will suffer. the prime minister of the zionist regime has requested help from the americans for the ground attack on gaza and they are trying to achieve an illusory achievement. zionist to salahuddin street, which is one the area is empty, they entered two or three kilometers away, but quickly retreated from the resistance attacks. regarding the prolongation of the war, the zionist enemy has claimed that the war will be comprehensive and long. but considering the continuation of resistance attacks and referring to the history of past wars, he cannot last long and prolong the war, because prolonging the war will not be in his favor and will not bring him any achievements. al -zarbat man, resistance and sharia, la hatam.

we are still with you in today's world, mr. helalad, these words of the americans that came to meon, this is a new level of truth they are interfering in the palestinian issues, but they have a declared policy for a long time, both in their official positions, in the speeches of their president, the foreign minister , the white house spokesperson, and in the messages of the diplomats that they conveyed even to iran. but in practice, we see that the zionists' hand is left open for any action, whether it is the continuation of the demolition of residential houses, the continuation of the siege, preventing the arrival of aid and fuel, and there is a big coffin between that declaration policy and what is being found . to expand the closed tension and zionists should be busy alone. whatever i want to do,

what is your analysis about the american program now? look, i told you, americans, both the words of mr. joe baidden almost two days ago and the words of his deputy, mrs. camila harris, that was, saying one word to you means saying, sir, what is your advice to iran ? in fact , you are in the same space, if two and this becomes a reality, you must accept the ceasefire in gaza , otherwise it will be dont do, that is, this dont. the two are next to him in front of him and these two there are those who want to create an equal atmosphere in the region, that is, if the united states really wants its knowledge to be implemented and the tension does not spread, it should

accept the ceasefire, that is, look at the situation now. yes, and from this quagmire that you are stuck in and what you have created for the regime during these decades, both the regime itself and the united states for the regime in the region and in the international system, see america, especially the new government that came to america. it was followed without solving strategic and geopolitical issues the middle east should move towards geopolitical issues, that is, by integrating the zionist regime with the integration of the 3rd regime in a regional security order , which is now the process of normalization, the economic integration, the talk of the corridor from india to india, the middle east to europe, is open , that is, don't touch the political issues too much. go with the economic projects that are political issues, not strategic issues, and the solution of the palestinian issue

is not a political issue, but rather a strategic and geopolitical issue in the international system, and without solving it, they are looking for the normalization process to take place. solve economic issues leave aside other influential actors in strategic issues and take geonique ideas and bypass the main issue. exactly this same mr. jacques sullivan in his report on october 2, which was published in the foreign affairs magazine, says exactly the same points before the events, that is, mr. kaplan robt. kaplan has a sentence about the american policy makers and even about the math centers , they don't have a proper understanding of them . challenges there are various issues, including this one, you can't solve the issues, especially

the 75-year-old age issue, you had no solution for it . we are talking about the government, but it is a fact that the zionist regime will not be burdened by the problem, that is, despite this , they know, that is, even that power. the wise people in the united states know this, especially after the al-aqsa storm operation, when the two -state issue is completely off the table. it is interesting that i don't remember the exact number, but after the al-aqsa storm , there were more than 70 opinions in palestine. 80% of the palestinian people declare their opposition to this government to do. now, let's go back to this, for example, in this world today, we were talking before the al-aqsa storm that the talks between the zionist regime and saudi arabia are in progress , there is no talk about the rights of the palestinians in the state, that is, in those talks too, we heard a voice from palestine .

and the palestinian people stood up and said, sir, this is our problem, that instead of letting the rest of us decide, we should decide our own destiny , and that was almost the same, because, for example , countries like the uae and bahrain make their own choices, morocco and sudan make their own choices. making themselves and accepting the zionist regime as an actor without resolving the palestinian issue, but saudi arabia wanted to play with the palestine card and push this forward and get maximum concessions from the regime and the united states, and finally the al-aqsa storm operation, at least in the short term and in the medium term, the issue of normalization has been left off the table. yes, and the final question is, let's take a chance to distance ourselves a bit from the conflict between the palestinians and the zionist regime. anyway, a series of regional and trans-regional actors also play a role in this story. they create your analysis of the role that they

what are they doing? well, anyway, there is america, there is turkey, there is russia, there is india , and it came into the issue in support of the zionist regime. since the europeans are facing challenges within themselves, the public opinion did not accept the absolute support of the governments in western europe regarding regional actors. what do you think? see the fact that the regime has both geopolitical and ideological importance for america. from this point of view, ideolo, when the us foreign minister arrives in tel aviv, he says, "i did not come as the us foreign minister , i came as a jew, or the discussion of the zionist lobby in politics." the foreign affairs of the united states, which mr. mersheim and mr. stephen walt describe in their famous book "the foreign policy of the united states ", raises the issue of the ideological nature of the regime's issue for the united states. another dimension is the geopolitical issue, because the regime in the middle east region acts as a balancing power against

iran is brought up, that is, according to those doctrines and those theories and strategies that the united states has, the regime against iran as a balancing power, now it was against the arabs at one time , but after the peace of camp divide, wadi araba and the rest of the issues of normalization are a title. the balancing power of this it also applies to europeans, which means that now the dose of ideology is less for europeans. the importance of the zionist regime is the same as what we had from biden, that if israel did not exist, we would have to establish an israel in the middle east for our own interests. we have seen that the middle east, which was proposed in 1911 and later according to the sykespico agreement , is divided by the agreement of france and england, which means that the role of the great powers in the issue is almost a lifetime of more than 100 years, and

they are planning these things. for the middle east they have different plans, especially the issue of the regime, which is now ideological and geopolitical for the americans, and for europe , it has more geopolitical aspects , the same for other regional actors, but there is one point that maybe all regional actors, especially because there should be a ceasefire, the consensus means the turks say this, saudi arabia says this, but 120 countries of the world, but the point is, if there is no ceasefire, who will win, that is, who will benefit from the outcome of this situation , those countries and other actors will accompany this part one the reality of part of the middle-aged actors some of the persian gulf countries and even turkey are not looking to win this conflict , why? because mr. netanyahu put forward his famous sentence both today and two days ago

, he said this sentence: if according to my advice, my advice to the arab countries and other countries is that if we do not win the war, it will be your turn. what exactly does the system mean, creating a perception of the threat from iran that if we lose this war, hamas and iran will not be satisfied with just us ? it is about saudi arabia, that is, the issue of balance of power is different from the current opinion, and the united states has a role in the middle east of european countries. they play a role through the zionist regime, and it will be removed. the countries that know themselves to be dependent on this power should feel threatened. the balance will be disturbed. the absence of the regime means the end of this balance that they have been looking for since 1911 and in 1948.

define the existence for him, and in the arab wars, when the arabs were defeated, this balance became actual, and this has continued for decades, that's why this mr. netani comes and raises the same issue that if you can't solve this issue. if you do it, it means that we will lose the war , the balance is messed up and it will come to you as well officially, tell us what the zionist regime did in 20 seconds. he made the story so existential, and he became so proud of this war, because it is an existential story, existential, that is the essence of the story, because what happened was related to the existence of the regime. he had no choice. thank you, mr. helale , for appearing in today's world.

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