and 30 minutes of news network. in the name of allah, the most merciful, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the world. tonight, i am hosni sadad shabiri. i am talking to mr. mohammad javad larijani, the supreme advisor to the head of the judiciary and the former secretary of the human rights staff of the judiciary. in tonight's program, we are going to ask what is the ratio between national interests we iranians and

the issue of palestine and the events of these days exist. there may come a day when iran has a direct entry into the conflict scene in palestine. to hear the answers to these questions and more, i invite you to watch the world today until the end. yes, i will go to talk with mr. mohammad javad larijani and i want to ask them first , who do you think are the main actors of today's developments in palestine and the scene of the conflict that we are witnessing in gaza .

well, the first issue is that we have a realistic idea of ​​the issue itself. in today's world, understanding phenomena is very important. and the first condition of insight is this correct understanding. especially considering how much... there is in the world, pulling back the curtain and having a clear understanding is very important. what we should never lose sight of is that hamas, as a resistance force in palestine, dealt a terrible blow to this. i don't even call them a regime

. i have a reason for this. but this blow is not just about a group being hit. in the region, we are facing the zionist project, not a national incident, for example, because some people, for example, may see the incident as a regional issue, for example, they may say, well, we are far away from this period, what does it have to do with us , this is a regional issue. for example, d to countries in some people are fighting over some place, some are violating, some are doing bad things, but that is a regional issue, zionism, and what is happening in quds sharif is a project for seventy years, this project is owned by zionist people.

they are very sensitive about this project, so you can see that as soon as this regime, that is, the project, is falling, america rushed in, england rushed in, europe rushed in. why is this coming? are they worried about, for example, a fight happened in the region, this is the fight in ukraine the degree of not entering, not being so serious, but at the same time, their entry in ukraine was not because they have sympathy for the burden of the ukrainian people. in the eyes of westerners, the people of ukraine are not worth much . their women are enslaved and their men are killed in wars.

this is the idea of ​​a western-oriented policy of the ukrainian people, who has spoken openly, but why did they come because they wanted to have the biggest project, which was to somehow break russia by the horns and its power , reduce its power, maybe they can, for example, break it into pieces again. it was a project to bring them here as well if the west has rushed to pursue its own project, the dimensions of the zionist project are no longer related to borders and distance, we have to ask the west, that is, america , england, and western countries, why they started this peru, what are they looking for? you know the scene from america, england and europe on the one hand, and not the zionist regime that you are talking about. i don't even want to use the word "rome" for that actor , so what we should pay attention to

is that hamas is a terrible blow. added to this project , but hamas is actually a part of the phenomenon very blessed and emerging that was found after the revolution and that was the imam's doctrine of resistance . today, the resistance in the entire region has gained legitimacy . prominent in yemen in iraq in syria in various places these are now a network. where is the position of the islamic republic now? some people think that our role is similar to that of america and other countries in this matter. while we are talking about exactly two different worlds. so what are

we like? our doctrine of resistance came from our revolution. the doctrine of resistance is the biggest threat to the project. zionist because the goal of the zionist project is to create a base in the middle east or west asia. the zionist project has many sides in west asia. the west asia side seeks to establish continuous control in the region beyond the sources of access. this is also an islamic issue because the heart of the islamic world is in there is a method on this region. can i make a classification so far? you say this islam that you have. you want us to say the goal of america now that the leadership is on this side, so the actor of this and this side is on the opposite side of america, england and the west. you know about the resistance that iran's role

was in its discourse and its thinking, and now i don't know if we can open this issue here now that you don't consider iran an actor, sir. you know the discourse, beyond the owner of the discourse of iran, the iranian revolution is one of the doctrines that he put forward in the region and in the islamic world, resistance, resistance means that we must stand up against extravagance, arrogance, domination, and surrender to hashem and we will win. resistance is not a so-called academy article. resistance is not a doctor who was formed in the real world and created successful examples . the islamic republic is an important actor in the region is. and appeared on the world stage. the west never wants us to be a global actor. some people

say that because of our different policies, we are not an important actor on the world stage. not seeing this minute. is the issue which issue is as important as this issue that is now and the role of the islamic republic is a very decisive role. the language of our officials has become the language of muslim nations, the language of their wishes. look at the presence of our president in riyadh. now regardless of the issues that were approved in the resolution. now bad and good compared to the past of this gathering. conferences or recently cooperation organization is not a bad thing, but in the whole thing is very specific and not as expected by the islamic world. by the way, i also want to ask a question about this issue, but the speech of our president is what the islamic nation wanted, and we

do not just speak, we support the oppressed nations where possible. it should be noted that we have no hesitation, that is, the americans have no right to tell us that you should not help the nation of palestine , for example. which becomes a very decisive role for the islamic republic the future of the region lies in the region. the region cannot ignore our theory of doctrine, which is to confront the domination of the west, and in the future , the resistance front will become stronger day by day, so we have played an active role.

use your airplanes, cannons and tanks, we will not use them if we have them, we will not hide that we are capable, our role is on the thoughts of mujahid , those who are trained in the school of resistance , they are stronger than 10 tanks, so you play iran too. you know that iran is not an important player in my region in the region and in the recent developments in gaza the developments in gaza have a global dimension, and in these developments related to the future of palestine as an important regional and transregional issue, as i said, the zionist project , the zionist project, has not been stirred up from within the region, so that some people think that we have a local issue, for example, azerbaijan has a fight with armenia, and they have eaten some land. he took the land, he took it, this is not like that at all, there is no government

here, the regime belongs to a government, they are a group, in fact, they are bandits who have gathered from the world , it is not at all accurate to apply the discussion of the government or the government regime to this group, not that we don't want to talk about this. the application is not accurate and based it doesn't have rights, it can't, it has a legal basis, it doesn't have an argumentative basis, the melo says a group cannot be ruled by the government, the government must have a background, it has a basis , it doesn't have any of these, so you actors follow our first question, america and england and the west knows, and so does iran, because the issue is an international issue, and the main players in the international arena , including iran, are involved in this case anyway, and we cannot say that they are not present. let's ask questions about it, of course, the roles are different

as for our review number, let's first go to what america is looking for. obviously, this question is related to the zionist project . what was the purpose of the zionist project to establish all the groups there, to ensure the stabilization and continuation of the west's control over the entire region of west asia, which includes vast access and resources. the energy has been diverted to other sources, and also the islamic issue, the policies of the western rulers since the olden days, that is, from the 19th century onwards , the late 18th century, the 19th century, the 20th century, especially after the second world war , have a concern about the revival of islam, like tearing the islamic countries into pieces by the ottomans. tear it into pieces

being a big part of the islamic world, but their hearts were not hardened, they always had this feeling of not being islam , their great thinkers warned the politicians, this is written for everyone to be careful, if this islam comes alive, it will be a big headache for you, but they did not predict the islamic revolution. after the second world war, the most important long-term concern of western thinkers was the revival of islam. of course, their immediate concern was the issue of communism. it existed, but their long-term concern was the revival of islam, which they discussed in the discussion of civilizations, but the islamic revolution at the end of the 20th century. converting the term "delshure" to one a serious political issue in the international arena. now

it is very important for the west. the zionist project is now far more important for america, britain and the west than the time to settle. of course , if it could not be established as they say, they would establish it themselves. but today it is more important. and therefore the four forks of this project. don't fail, of course, the project will be another blow. why is it more important today than ever because the role of islam has become much more prominent . when peru was attacked , you did not have islamic resistance. you did not have a place to speak for the revival of islam. yes, brothers. being muslims was sayyid qutb's being others, being others, being these petty insults, the tendencies of gamal abdul nasser

were quickly suppressed because he had mostly arab and nationalist aspects, but not islamic aspects. they knew, but today the challenge of the sini bash project was not comparable to the day it was established , it was not the day the project was keyed, today is a strong resistance front that has the huge support of the islamic republic, the islamic republic is an axis, a boiling source of thought and thought, politics and movement in general. your region and islamic world follow the reflection of iran's positions in the arab world and the islamic world, as if it is like water that the people of the islamic world

are hearing. you are also putting forward the intellectual foundation that the islamic revolution laid. we can say that in that intellectual foundation of the revolution there are people who follow the idea of ​​resistance. before 1988, if i am not mistaken, the arab governments faced israel about four times. and they have been failing since 1982, like lebanon and hezbollah now lebanon is going against the zionist regime and the people are the basis of it, it seems that it is turning the page and those failures that were in the past did not exist . is this the basis of the difference between today and the past that you are referring to ? armed with islamic thinking and the revival of islam, they are in the field, but it is not enough for the people to be in the field, the people who now understand that

they must be organized, they must have the power , they must have the power. and stand against the zionist regime with strength. the zionist regime and the west counted on its phantoms. on the abilities to the modern term counted its own weapons. the islamic republic has many varieties in the field of empowerment. these are also the obvious things of the islamic republic. look, the islamic republic showed the scene. war and battle are past these phantoms and there are key elements, organization based on belief and of course with appropriate corrections and an asymmetric attack

. the emergence of iran. i am very sorry to say that some of our politicians do not see the huge achievements of the country's capabilities at all. for example, thought they think that our country's capabilities will be destroyed with one foot in a minute. don't see this. they have again accepted the same theories of american power, which thinks that its phantoms flying in the sky can change the scene. you see, in the scene of gaza, gazans are a small group . they are not at all comparable to lebanon. they are not comparable to yemen. they are not comparable to iran. this group, with all its power

, is very powerless against this group. well, this is a military doctrine here, a military doctrine that has beliefs in it , it has the facilities , it has the proper organization and weapons, which, for example, some people say america likes. he attacked us, but he couldn't because of the people. this part is true, but it's not just for the people. the people want a path for their power to emerge, they want a dish , just like the people's vote and the people's opinion. if there are no elections and laws, the government will not be formed. we have elections every time. those things that the people like are elected, they go to the parliament, it becomes a worker in the eyes of the people . it is not just that the islamic republic had good ideas in terms of capabilities. it provided the container, background and basis for the emergence of these talents. and that's why

you see that the islamic republic has words, organization , doctrine, capabilities, and support it also has well, these are new things for the front that created zionism today. the most sensitive day in history. yes, there are days of their tyranny. they thought that after 25 years the problem would be solved after 30 years . the relationship between the interests of iranians cannot be separated regardless of the islamic republic, but i want to know what interests iranians and iranian citizens have in the palestinian issue. this is a very important point, and i think that i am here

i would like to thank the radio and television in this recent issue, it was really a key to global information , considering the massive censorship that happened, one of the ways that was and is important is to clarify the same issue for our own nation. today, the iranian nation is the most informed nation. on the ground, it is about the events of palestine, thanks to the blessing of our national media to other media , now we must be the most equipped people of the islamic world in terms of logic, reasoning, critical intellect, and insight into the problem. see, i am coming back to the zionist project. what did the sahioni project want? the sahioni project was created to control america and the west

have full power over the entire region and iran is actually a jewel, this was their plan, it was their highest plan because of its centrality, its capabilities, so you see, the zionist project was aimed at us, if we wanted to defend ourselves against the zionist project , our independence is important to us, it is the greatest national interest. we want our oil not to be stolen, taken, or auctioned, not to be in the hands of shell, total, etc. , to extract it ourselves, it was important that our oil money should be in our country, these were our important things , from our independence to our own culture to our economic facilities. zionist for all this it was a threat. at all, he came to take all these under his ticket. the same way he got it during the taghut period. the same way you look at the countries of the region

. both the contents of these and their facilities are taken to yaqma. and they are also called gori. that is, it is not higher than this humiliation. this is their view of the region. we did not want to be them. so, the first point is that we should stand in front of the zionist project. in terms of getting rid of evil, this is in terms of getting rid of a big threat to national security, that is, when a project is meant to dominate the entire system of our life order, our civil order, our government, and we blocked it, it is the biggest change. for our national security. point d. therefore , it was necessary for us to stand in front of the sahmeh front. second point, how did we want to stand? let's sit at home and say that whenever they come to us, we will be in front of them. well, it

was the weakest, most passive, most ineffective way to deal with zionism. but with the doctrine of resistance we had a huge area that was supposed to make them all victims of this zionist project, we made them resistant, we helped them in their resistance , they woke up, we are not vain people, we are free and resistant people . the difference is that they are looking for nocheh, noker and kai shiri we are looking for strong comrades-in-arms , standing on our own feet, our friends, all of our friends are independent, they are on their own, so we iran's theory to create a big circle of resistance. it was the best and most efficient theory to protect iran against the zionist invasion. it is very bad that some people who are also experts in international affairs.

in general, they consider the zionist invasion to be a remote invasion, they say that we are far away from there and it is not our problem at all. zionism is not our problem for the local area of ​​palestine . there was no zionist project for our entire area. if it was for the local area, why are the americans so helpless? their hearts are broken for a few palestinians and jews to leave. those people don't count, it's not an important project for them, not that the west will sacrifice all jews even if it can. do you think that in world war ii , for example, what was the issue of jews ?

they are the big cause of misfortune, so the jews themselves, who are not involved in these issues, are victims of this zionist project, so our national interests have been preserved and strengthened with the doctrine of resistance in a very wonderful way . there is no question of sending troops from them. my question is, who are we, when is it possible that now , based on what you have said, do you know the purpose of america and now its allies regarding the scope of islamic countries , because there is a problem with islam? we are repelling evil and you should not sit behind our borders to say when permission is given and when iran may enter the scene of conflict because you

consider the defense of the city to be defending yourself against the city. and dominating us and our region has been and still is the role of the islamic republic and our revolution there is a huge threat to this, and that is why you see that america and the zionist regime keep saying that we are iran, this is iran. this is correct in a way , that is, the biggest threat to this zionist project is iran due to its failure. we do not hide it at all, we are proud of it. in this matter, because we were able to prevent a hegemonic invasion in an interesting way, at least we could cut off the challenge and, god willing, it will be completely prevented . our role is to say when we will send the army. this is a very naive question that some people ask

us . a doctorate is much broader than, for example let's send some troops to fight with israel or the simini regime. the front of resistance is a very precise defensive and offensive doctrine at the same time. therefore , our strategy is much more meaningful than sending troops. that is, it is not our option. do you want to say this? no, i want to say more importantly that our role should not be in the matter of, for example, sending 5,000 people to fight, this is what the americans are doing , this is what the british, for example, are doing. look , peru, i want to draw everyone's attention to the resistance strategy that has blossomed and shown today

it has been shown to be effective and empowering. this strategy is much more complicated than sending, for example, 5 brigades of commando forces to one place. another point is that our sword has never been in its sheath, which means that our readiness to defend the interests of our nation is never hidden . we are not in defense of the interests of our nation. let's be ashamed, we are not afraid, we are not delayed. anyone who is waiting for us to say that all our defense buttons are pressed, we are not looking for a military job anymore, i think is wrong. some people once said that the era of missiles is over, it should be the era of dialogue. in my opinion, neither the era of missiles nor the era of dialogue is over. there are both. well, we will arrive to this mr. doctor, before that, we want to see pictures of the global support that has been given to palestine all over the world today.