mr. shakri, or let's look at it in a much bigger way, let the political establishment come and solve this issue, mr. leila, it is the middle class or mr. country, who so far have brought up favors, public trade, and superior jobs. greetings program , i have respect and courtesy, considering that i am connected remotely. i was not very aware of the issue, but the issue of dissatisfaction and the issue that is in the discussion of the market , if we are discussing the issue that we have in the media space , it is clearly related to the election. what's wrong with the competition of petrochemical states, so i look at the issue from this point of view, an issue that has been very challenging in recent years and in 2018, well, we

have bitter experiences about this . the country, from the perspective that it is presented and the perspective that we give subsidies to the people and is institutionalized in different ways, and this literature that we present is new literature and sometimes it seems interesting from the point of view of friends , whenever this we bring up the issue, friends immediately mention the issue of gasoline. and basically it's not about gasoline, i have said many times that the country's national resources, like any other country, are part of god-given resources, especially for a country with conditions similar to ours, which is an embargoed country . the pricing that has been found and established in the laws, and i have not seen anywhere in the world where the government comes to sell the products

of the private sector at the global price , is guaranteed through the laws . pricing against the national economy, if you check the recession let's take the energy out of the reach of production . we look at inflation . we can see that in understanding that this issue is about the sale price of natural resources or national oil and national gas into the country , the mistake he is making is mostly towards the people.

we see that during this recent period in the field of energy consumption, the topics related to energy optimization are always addressed to the public , while the reality of our problem and issue in the production sector has already been discussed in universities with professors. expert friends, we have shown many times with numbers and figures , and almost the official statistics confirm this, in terms of what the friends are taking, now it is not the courage of the loved ones, and people should know from the perspective of energy. or the depth of the media is high, and the media means that there is a lot of media information at the society level , but what has been examined today is that any of these debates that we have raised are harmful to the structure of the iranian economy. 86 this point where the sale of natural resources at the world price was decided in the name of targeting subsidies that later in the year

89 this can be fully implemented through the law of the people of iran. 25 million tomans per month based on the fixed prices of 1401 were the expenses of their families . we see that these families are spending 9 million to 10 million per month. the scientific sources and the articles i have written show the same . we look at the experience of targeting subsidies and the experience of november 2018 . after a gobtani price freeze on global energy prices especially gasoline, if you friends look at the statistics , you will see that consumption is restricted for one to one and a half years, and this consumption will be released with greater intensity. even in 2008, with all the challenges you mentioned, you think that it will increase again. i come back to the same question that i asked, in order

for this competition to be real , between all these currents that we have discussed in this discussion, the currents are very different, the economic opinions are very different. what did he focus on? one of the best areas of competition for sure there is an election that we are facing in the country and the field must be opened, the space must be opened, well , the leader of moazab was yesterday. they apply another issue that comes from the national media itself, which we serve them. it is the media itself that must open this chapter and create the space and push this discourse to the level of society and public opinion. the next issue is the so-called activation and activation. about the political parties of our country

, we have about 20,300 legal official parties in the country they should be active with birth certificates, with missions, with guarantees, faithful to their promises, with a wide presence in the society, not only during elections, and also the so-called atmosphere of starting enthusiasm and discourse by students in universities is one of the good natural requirements of this discussion , to make this issue competitive. and that the new words reach the people's ears and the people can make better elections because of it. i am well aware . thank you, mr. zadeh. thank you

very much . which policy is right and which policy is wrong what is the answer, what is not the answer, but following yesterday's statement by the leader who, as usual , wanted intelligent elections, they want different intellectual groups to speak for my people, a respectable media, while i give the loudspeaker to those who come and they say their ideas and their views on economic issues at the same time

and preferably before that, please raise the economic literacy and media literacy of the general public because this can be very dangerous if the space is opened and those who want to sit in the seats of the parliament can say it. and say things that god forbid are true it doesn't have to be in line with the requirements and capabilities of the country , they make promises that seem sweet, but in practice are salt water, which, god forbid, may make the economy worse than it is. to come for example , i make a dollar, for example, 15 tomans . for example, this

point of view finally exists in the country and has fans they are saying yes, they should say it by the way, but be sure to tell the facts to the people before and alongside them. if someone claims that, for example, in such and such a place, a car costs such and such a price, and outside, for example, a car costs such and such a price, and people live like this, why don't we live ? why don't we , for example, drive a cheap car, for example, tell me the facts, sometimes he says this about his opposite thinking, says mr. siam , i say he has this opposite thinking, he says, you know there is a problem , and that is that this profession seems sweet about this, but it is not true, and

everyone's people he will like to hear this, but if he is literate if there is not enough media and economic literacy , god forbid that they will attract us and their populists and lead the country astray. well, mr. siab , i say again, the thinking of confrontation is what he says. this is how we are explaining what you are saying. look, the reality is not two. the reality is one . what i expect from the media and please is that the reality is one and two. no , show the people a fact, it can

make these competitions more real. by the way, it is scandalous for those who make populist words and empty promises, tell the reality of cars in iran and abroad, tell the reality of land prices , tell the reality of the country's facilities, and increase people's general literacy, increase people's economic literacy , increase people's media literacy, and not just don't be influenced by the nonsense words of some politicians and don't be all populists, and the claims that the anti-revolutionary media, their televisions and lobbies have 24 hours a day on their phones and satellites to depress the people, they are also discredited . public information literacy people, lift up, don't let us down what should we do? finally, what should we do? you say that these are populists, they cannot deceive the people according to the interpretation that you say, what should be done

? is there competition or not? there is no doubt that the competition should be 100. however, don't let anyone take advantage of people's little information. what should we do with real information? for example, if i don't know about the price, the supply, etc. that is, in the debate, tell the facts and see what we have to say.

how did i get these facts? let the real competition that we are talking about take shape, see how it will be realized . i said to those who do not talk about the common people

, it is attractive to the people, as you say, there is a spectrum that says, sir, if we do this, the dollar will be 15 tomorrow. if you do these two things, inflation will be zero tomorrow. naturally, you will also tell people what is happening to you. you tell me to come and talk to him. what you think is not enough. it is enough to tell the truth. miad says that i am telling people the truth, this is the main truth in your opinion, how should it be explained ? see, i said that reality is one thing, not two realities . sometimes, sir, these sides of the debate shine light on the reality from the angle that they themselves, friends of the people, see, and

they say part of reality and part of reality , they don't say it intentionally or unintentionally. well, that's my side. part of the truth is told, part of the truth is not told. the national media , as someone who cares about the country and has the duty to promote public literacy , is not aware of all aspects of reality . one trend says, for example, the government comes and says 50,000 tomans is what you have in the market now, you see which one we are we have to take his position, then you tell the truth, so which are the effective factors? everyone can do it from his own life . you can say 15,000, 50,000, 70,000. you can explain the factors affecting the broad

market. give them the information that people need to have to analyze the currency market. see give details like that he is thinking about this , and he should come and say this , that is, if you do not believe that if it is not possible with a type of contracting, for example , 15,000 tomans or 20,000 tomans, you should give your reasons and arguments. of course, i'm on the other side i am not for you, anyway, as an economist and an expert, yes, but in short , i have to say that we are talking because our discussion is ongoing, the news of the stock market is not broadcast now , please tell me at 16:00. god forbid he abuses people's ignorance, it is very good that the national media can shine the light on the reality from all angles so that people can see the reality and god has done this

for them not to be fooled, thank you very much. mr. lilaz, mr. lilaz, you said that we should focus on the middle class, which class? let's not focus, no, look, i didn't say focus on the middle class, i said that you can't ignore, what we believe is

what happens in practice, in practice, in your practice, when the middle class, because you see, when we talk about social classes, we usually think that we are talking about an economic phenomenon . one of the great thinkers says that social classes are the function of the engine, while sociologists or economists usually turn off the engine to understand the category of class.

and you would put the income growth of these in 15, 20, 25, 30 years, for example, lower than the inflation of mr. lillyde more pressure and bringing down the classes that are above seven or eight deciles to the poverty line in terms of income . the government employee class has been 18-20% , our inflation is 45, our working class is the same, our minimum wage is the same, so for seven or eight decades, the society has been constantly decreasing in terms of economic power , this economy, in terms of the culture you are

referring to, is average , you have my voice. choose which one of these experts we have talked with so far. i agree , which one is this real competition? how should it be formed? i emphasize that it is a development issue i criticize mr. lilaz's points

because they see 1401 98 and 1996 as the same and the examples they give are all related to the consequences after 1401. the 1401 incident is not really economic, it is a social cultural incident and those are the ones who are actually protesting. . in fact, their percentage is much higher than the number of participants in the protest in 1401. because of this, when you look at people like hashmanditro, for example, they say that the middle class needs to be strong because the facilities if he increases hakrani , he will create the possibility of civil eviction, but to what end the title of the thought is that, for example, when you , for example, assume that i don't care what the growth rate is, i try to divide the cake

that i have with laser precision. the middle class is weakened, which means that there is an event that happened during the last decade, and the number of people who move from the middle deciles to the lower decks or, in fact, are close to the lower decks. it's too much, i want to emphasize something, see what mr. lilaz says about hijab, etc., etc it's not the people, it's a polarized issue within the society , it's two parts of the society, and you can't reach an understanding and talk about these points unless the society returns a process of development to it, that is, it feels that this train is moving. well, basically, this walking train is an economic issue, something related to your development. when you ride, i say it's very simple . ride qatar tehran. it's obvious that if

you have a disagreement with your lap, if you're not satisfied with the space in the car , you'll say that we'll finally arrive. finally, we're moving forward. but when you feel that the train has stopped, all together they fight, why is the glass broken here, why is the carpet this color, then why are you doing this, this is normal. i absolutely do not like the shift of the arrowhead from the issue of development to the issue that the locomotive must move so that we can reach an understanding with each other on social and cultural orders or their balance inside the wagons. see the displacement of this issue in the second point . we must understand that our capabilities and our ability to work are very limited. and instead of creating new methods, we should seek to see what human experience tells us to do if we think, for example, the question of the country is

to explain more land, well now you have an unusual density of population under the alborz due to the stop of farhandeh's development, in tehran, karaj and the axis , let's assume it is warm from zanjan to zanjan. first of all, everyone wants to be here , why not, because you are somewhere. another pole of development, where people can have a better life , will not be built on my small town, no, we did not design it. look, it is a problem for us to think. well , should we expand all these areas we have? this is it true or not? we have an idea of ​​iran in 5 years, where alborz and zanjan will be hot for a minute, and this is not possible. no, the problem is that you should be able to create another population density in another place. for example, in ardakan , the field is not that small, for example, let's talk about makran , you know what i mean, you want another development pole that

will make your restrictions in distribution accountability in other places a little more flexible. the intensity is weakening due to the fact that our official foreign payment structure is missing and there is no kind of supervision we cannot control currency flows inside the country . i emphasize that rial governance is not a means of understanding the currency flow of the country, because an important part of the currency exchange carried out by iranian economic agents does not have a rial side at all. what kind of competition is there? it is possible to increase this amount, in fact, by analyzing the same amount of minimization of the import factors that we have .

have development, your problem is to build and create large-scale factory production. one of your tools to pull off large-scale factory production give you the opportunity to govern , it will expose you to a number of economic agents with a scale that you can govern and use them as a development tool in the private sector . basically, to say that everyone can import is a contradiction, because self -importing is the lever that you should use. well, now, we have large-scale monitoring , that's what we have, to the extent that you are referring to , well, that is what you are looking for . when it comes to creating a large private sector based on a factory that is based on credit we guide the behavior of its development, for example , we have honey tea, such as large honey tea, not

suitable honey tea, first of all, honey tea is suitable for. there is no development plan. where is it written that this country needs a tea city? after all, you have a large scale. for example, number two , number two, no. look , there is a large scale in the chart of the development plan. it means foreign tea packaging, which is not a user thing, the tea industry has no share in your household's portfolio, which you in the priorities of the development plan should be accompanied by limited because you blast, increase the production rate of jd, this is probably in line with the decrease in the amount of imports of that bread economic entity, the user and the non-user can't compete with each other. here , you have to have your resources, your limits, the working capital . do you want to give it to everyone? do you want to give it to everyone?

do you want to pay at a certain rate? what does leveler control mean? controlling the balance means that i don't have so much share of the budget deficit from the cash flow, not the money. it has become so much that i had to make a condition to tell him that i will not allow the method of criticism to go beyond this limit at the price of private sector outsourcing. so you have to you chose at all, the idea that there are resources that we can support everyone. whoever came said that i want to produce, let's say quickly, come, a producer, come and help you. all sing and enter. there is no such thing at all. well, who will measure this subway? look, the problem is exactly the same. for example , if i tell you, mr. shakri, i will not give you credit. you are not a good user. you are not good . i will leave you with all these interpretations. i will leave it to mr. nemati, who will determine this metromia. where is your development organization? this country had a development organization called the program organization. its function was exactly the same well, little by little, due to some reasons, the organization

of the program and budget has helped me, and the budget issue has come up, and only that is left in the middle. well, we have a minute. i also have a summary, so let's have a summary with mr. nemati in this one minute, because we have to we are getting closer to the news of the stock market and i want to say that in the coming days we will examine the issues in more detail with this expertise , mr. nemati jamandi, i am sorry, i think that our opinions and the rest of the same dear experts from your question. it is not the same that different answers have been received, you may be my servant. personal opinion i myself agree with mr. dr. shaker lilaz in many places , but the question that was raised is that we are facing elections now, and of course i hope that the audience has seen this, there is a very serious competition and very different opinions about the economic issues tomorrow with the elections. you are facing and the representatives behind the tribune want to talk . we want to set a standard for the people. the goal is what to do so that the

people can ask. from different groups, answer them from the answers they gave can we, because i don't want to state our opinion now, but our goal in the coming days will definitely be to investigate in more detail. today, we just wanted to say that there are many different and numerous opinions on a single and specific question on an economic issue. let's depict this difference and the competition. thank you very much to all the guests of the program and all the good viewers. god bless you. in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful, dear viewers , we are with you in the news section of the stock market. issuing activity licenses for 51 investment funds for 42 financial institutions of the stock exchange organization