well, in practice, most of these intermediate products are used in industry , and we are talking about home medicine. if you have more accurate statistics , please let me know . practically, we have become an assembly industry rather than an industry that really has depth in its production and in fact theory. economists say that a production is actually a production that first leads to export, that is what kind of export is an export that is stable and in fact we can export at a certain scale. now you if you look at the index of export diversity and stability of export products, especially in home appliances , you will see that this statement is not confirmed, that is , we could not even in the domestic market now because of these limited spaces. which came into being

and we forced the consumer to actually only consume this product abroad, we could not do marketing outside the country, we could not do enough marketing to get our own share of this market , so this shows that in fact this view of banning is a failed policy, even this is contrary to the general policies of development programs we are in accordance with the laws, in fact, based on commercial policies, but these laws were installed, which means they were violated , not only by the government, but not only by the government.

not only the consumer, but also the producer itself has been affected . see how now, the number of smuggled goods is almost something around 20 billion dollars. what they announce is that among the major figures of these are household appliances. how much do you know? i didn't understand. how much do you know about this? the 20 billion dollars you are referring to, first of all, where are the statistics, where did you cite them, because the statistics are different from the smuggling of goods and the width of the statistics that are announced by you is good. the most optimistic scenario is 12 to 24 billion dollars, but now we are saying that in fact , we want to consider the average of 20 billion dollars . appliances are out, but the same statistic that you have now in the property headquarters is actually holding an electronic auction. you can see that household appliances are a large volume.

dedicated to himself and this shows that the number of smuggling of household appliances is actually so low no, it is an impressive number. thank you , mr. harorani. thank you very much for being with us . i will go to mr. hashemi , who is the head of the home appliances industry association. from the beginning of the case, it was from a letter. that the producers have regarding the ban , why do you agree with the ban? in general, these issues should be considered in the macro economic indicators of the country.

let's take it and get into the subcategory topics. now the fact of the matter is that we don't have a serious participation in the global supply and value chain, and in fact, the systematic connection of our producers with reputable global brands and major global producers is somehow cut off. yes, and my friends , i saw in the report that we are in fact against the import up to abdar and in an irrational way, we are definitely not in favor or against the import, the fact of the matter is that we are against it. see, we have to do anything from 97 to now 402 is almost over. it has been nearly 6 years since the import

of reading materials is almost prohibited . yes, first of all, the legal import is prohibited. now , according to the agreement reached with the ministry of interior, part of the import is in the form of tahlanji or pilhori or free zones. according to its own rules , the goods of rome that our dear friend from the assembly said are imported, well, some of them are actually imported from those regions . my point is that we should prepare all the fields of domestic producers, we should provide a platform for the supply of materials. initial supply discussion their liquidity is a matter of fighting smuggling and improving the business environment. if this happens, a reasonable schedule

should be provided to domestic producers in a purposefully defined manner. then , let's start. how long do you think this work should continue? i would like to ask you to see now that the honorable presenter said that yes , there has been a ban for 5 years, but the import was both legal and smuggled from different sides, and how is it legal now? please tell me this. at all, we have something called telangi at all in the law of merchants. if the consumables were in barges or ships , they should come for the livelihood of the people who worked on that ship or barge, not to allow 30 vans to come, this will prevent the work of legal importers with birth certificates

, and the manufacturer will also come from onor. it is not possible for me to write a poem, so it is not possible to do what i am asking you to do. it was not imported, so the goods that are in the market are both smuggled and those that are imported from these areas are actually the needs of the society.

if it is not possible to do something like this, please explain . the problem is not related to the question, but there is no problem. if we want it to be two-way , it will not enter the society. considering that, in fact , the investments that my brothers mentioned have been made even now. it is about to be done, we can start the discussion of import through the export of household appliances and we can

develop this year by year, but how many years is your proposal , the time will be with the manufacturers and you are the representative of the manufacturers here in another program. this has been happening for 5 years now. my suggestion is this in the next two years, provided that domestic production areas are facilitated, the business environment improves, and the country's macro-economic indicators develop to the same extent in order to support production, we are definitely against imports forever. we are not, thank you, mr. manaqbi , what do you think about supporting the producer , where is the support for

the consumer going to be placed? giving statistics, brothers, these statistics are manufactured statistics or the statistics that are important on paper. do you want to know that a production that we have allowed to be imported, but for example, we are an exporter of water

, we also need domestic supplies, what are you exporting in water coolers, not water coolers, which are now almost we can say that it is obsolete in many parts of the world . i have a question . what do you mean by saying that the import through kolbari is prohibited? if the import is prohibited, we can say that it is haram or halal. if the import is prohibited, it means that it is prohibited. in the meantime, let's say together that the depth of our production increases at the same time, we are diversifying our products

, that is, the refrigerators that we produced in the past are different from the refrigerators that we produce this year . thank you for your presence. tv, for example , if we have a tv, for example, if we have or other areas towards growth, well, with this ban that we have put so far, we were able to use this producer in some cases in the previous years. the country has taken measures to make it competitive

now in our country, in the field of home appliances, there is a competitive market with 300 production units, which you can see. on the first day, now he says, so far, good support. from now on, we have to. i think that you are now seeing meetings at the community level. the advertisement that is placed in wholesale sales says that we are ready to win a full prize , for example, with 500 thousand tomans in one manufacturer , we do not give this. it is clear that the production is not , it is clear that our production has increased, no, maybe our people's pockets have become smaller, the producer cannot take the opportunity, you have left it in the hands of a special people. no, now we have a plan for all the units to use banking education. i am not talking about a specific unit, they should use it from a bank . another point that we should mention is that these 5 years that you are talking about, well, some of our products may be new this year. for example, the small house in this exhibition this year, we named new products. we did that these were not the production molds in the country that we had gone in this direction, that is, it is not the case that

everyone presented all their products in the same year 2017 and were able to take many of these measures , measures that were taken even in the new year, the lines that it has been activated and these things take time. of course, we said with our friends in different meetings that we are pursuing a competitive position and competitive power in the strategic plan . in the field of imports, there is an absolute ban in the field of household appliances from now on, like years ago. it's true that we will move in this direction to make the market more competitive , but keeping the issues , here is another issue, i have to get your opinion, mr. harorani . i would like to ask you to see, if it's in your honor, when the import ban was imposed

in fact, this ban was imposed with two conditions , one is that the prices should not increase, as you can see that since the ban was imposed until now, the prices have increased by more than 300, which even the supreme leader of the revolution pointed out. in their talks, this condition was not met and actually the price pressure that was imposed on the people caused them to think that if we had imports, this pressure would not have been imposed on the people. to increase inside, which is also shown by the ministry of islam's own statistics. which increases the depth of construction inside he didn't find it. it means that we could have created a competition in better ways, that is, by increasing the definition, we could actually create this competition and have the support that we wanted from the domestic production . i will get the answer from mr. hashemi about the point we raised. mr. hashemi

, please discuss both the price and the depth of the interior . i would like to ask our dear friend at the majlis research center if it is about price increase or inflation only in the home appliance industry. annual increase in the prices of raw materials and production costs in all industries, regardless of the price. meat, chicken, eggs and various industries , this is a function of the macro-economic characteristics of the country, i will bring you with you, this is a matter of deepening the internal construction, it is really hard to say that in our household appliances industry, horizontal saving

has not happened. or the deepening of the internal construction has not been done, because mr. hashemi, tell me in detail how much the deepening of the internal construction is. let's see, let's see, you, brothers , pointing out the production statistics, which were in different product groups in 2017, is characteristic of our agricultural level now. for the number of products that have been produced , something around one and two tenths of 1 billion dollar share, so let's make a comparison. let's see how deep the domestic production has been, despite the increase of 70-80% of our production, the amount of our land has not increased significantly , but has decreased. these

have increased, perhaps more than the rate of increase in the exchange rate of home appliances. it doesn't help the discussion and the discussion is more broad , for example, now they say that i play home music the price has increased more than the exchange rate. well , the price is now known. the price of household appliances is also known. you can compare this chart and calculate

. mr. harorani's reference was that if the price of mr. harorani was after that, the supreme leader of the revolution would speak two or three more times and point out and support the national production, especially emphasizing the field of women's accessories as one of the proud national productions. so, if we talk about the commercial balance document in this industry, i was told that

it decreased from minus one and a half dollars to one and a half billion dollars to 725 million dollars, which means that i have all the information here on this phone. i can tell you the amount of import and export every year. how much we exported, how much we imported, the implicit balance that we mentioned , we increased the production, we also increased the variety of production , and the level of satisfaction of the people, today they don't buy the old refrigerator from our manufacturer , they buy a refrigerator with more features. well, it needs to be explained, but if we look at it now we should not say this. i have expressed my personal view from the first day. today , the honorable minister of industry madan tejarat is ready to state clearly that we believe this industry to be a mature industry based on trust. we have to compete at the regional level, and this competition is two-way, that is, both import and export . now we have signed agreements, the last agreement

was signed by mr. dr. aliabadi two weeks ago in the presence of mr. putin and other member countries of asia. in this agreement, many issues in the field of commercial exchanges will be possible even with zero parties so, the government's view is competition is to break the monopoly, but we have been awarded to a large group of industrialists who are graduates of our country's own universities and have received honors in the field of design in the field of creating production in the field of productivity and employment that this year we have 370 thousand a new job was created, a net new job was created, mainly in the textile sector, in the household appliance sector, and in the general industry sector. well , these are the honors that we should not

compare the consumer inflation chart with the producer inflation chart. we are the producer inflation chart in the country has decreased from 80% at the beginning of the government to 30% today he has found and this means that he will always produce in this home appliance industry, we have up to 2, because the prices in many of his fields should be taken in a way. prohibition means that from 2017 until now, the statistics show that we have increased the price by more than 300. now we have said on average that maybe in some of

the household appliances industry , it has increased by more than 300. we are competing . do you have an example of the increase we are talking about? about this year and last year. he is talking , you see , he has been talking since 1997 until now. this is what i am saying. if you are saying from 1997, then compare this with, for example, our material from tu. first, in terms of production from the previous year until now, we have increased by 60% in the field of steel enclosures and in petrochemical enclosures

. today we are comparing every product you consider since that year, it has increased by 300 or 400, mr. jamhandi, you know, mr. engineers, two conditions have been set, one is that the prices should not increase , which means that they should be stable, and that the domestic production, unfortunately , none of these were realized. well, if you want to compare, many other factors can be added to ensure that the prices are stable, and the second condition was to increase the depth of construction inside. i invite the respected researcher and some of your friends. the tools are only academic or research saying means to really say from the visit that our engineers are deep in production. as a small person in this industry

, wherever i go, every time i see that they really have a greater honor, mr. hashemi, let me make them as well. for example, they say that if the depth of internal construction has increased, why has foreign exchange consumption increased? see, because the domestic raw materials , mr. herovani, petrochemicals, zinc, steel, all these are calculated based on world prices. margin of competition, so a household appliance manufacturer, steel producer, copper producer , petrochemical producer, aluminum producer, or even a producer of household appliances, you say. with the condition that you don't change the price , when the price of raw materials is available, the basis of calculation is world prices, and in addition to the fact that the materials themselves

have increased in dollars , our raw materials or imported parts are based on that. each of these has its own concept, what do you think? i will say something from the words of the dear producers because i am in the field of import activity , the manufacturers are also with us today in home appliances according to their own words and statistics, because they bring them from here. i mean, about 60 to 65% of the value of their goods, that is, the goods they have to bring are imported, in which product group are they domestically produced ? 94 is in the water heater 89, which means 94 is built-in , the gas stove is built-in, even this faucet, well, now, if

it is built-in, my question is, why does the price have to be so high? even if the dollar is expensive, we can't calculate 50 thousand tomans because of you, because the government does not accept 50 thousand tomans dollars at all and never, the dollar is 2850 tomans for some people, now it has changed, it has reached the second market , i don't know it will be effective to be the producer of these views that were raised in this program. thank you very much for your cooperation with the table.

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