in my opinion, this has been realized for a long time, the objective reason is that we now have many unemployed university graduates in the country, which means that we have more educated people than the market needs, which shows that we crossed those boundaries, many of them are even employed in the field. the non-specialists themselves are weak, which means that the university education does not help in the discussion of employment or the purpose that the person entered for his education. in fact, self-sufficiency is not knowledge, dr. dr. self-sufficiency is learned knowledge. we have crossed the border of self-sufficiency of educated students as the output of higher education. i also want an example let me see that the share of higher education in the country's budget is about one and a half percent of the country's budget. now apparently 14.

it has become a little closer to d. there are many other countries that have the same concerns as us, and their share is even less than this amount . according to the report of the research center, the work of japan, the benefit of portugal, the share of higher education in their public sector is less than 1% of the total budget. it is their country, i mean, i want to say that this amount of investment that happened in iran may be small in my opinion. in comparison, in my opinion, the amount mentioned in the constitution means self-sufficiency in that need internally, it has been fixed and by the way, even more than that , it seems that now the contribution is being paid to government collections, which means that now china, which has so many students in the world, is not self-sufficient according to your definition, china is a model of education administration.

first of all, see how it is known that all the training that we give in our universities is the training that is given in all the universities of the world , it is not like that at all, so we still need knowledge. send it abroad, and although our domestic universities are very strong and powerful , they solve many parts of these needs, but in any case, in my opinion, we still have a long way to go before we become, for example, in such a way that there is no need for this self-sufficiency anymore , see how you define it, mr. doctor. i don't think we can at all.

for now, you see, self-sufficiency does not mean the number of students , it does not mean the number of higher education institutions , it's like you say, i'm going to produce a certain car. foreign company. a reputable foreign brand is producing it, see self-sufficiency it means that this self-sufficiency can mean that we have the ability to benefit from the various sciences that are being cultivated and taught in the world even by sending students and returning students, which means that the political, social, cultural, economic situation of our country is such that this student went back like

or using other people's knowledge, my point is to see that we can say self-sufficiency in the agricultural sector. let's look at agriculture itself from a few aspects, let's say, for example, the area under cultivation, what do i know , let's increase a certain product , stop importing that product, but we can never say scientifically. we will be self-sufficient. yes, we may be able to produce specialized knowledge in our own country in a suitable form that is used by various professional institutions and specialized institutions in our country. but this

doesn't mean that we don't need to send students from another country to study there , i'm sure it doesn't mean that. it seems like their example of philosophy has gone wrong, for example, this is no longer free , for example, for my education, it is the opposite. let me tell you that it seems to me that the higher education of the public sector of higher education, if it has the duty of governance, should come to enter in areas that are not attractive for the private sector of higher education. fields such as philosophy or basic sciences, which we are currently experiencing a crisis in the country , should be supervised in order for students to go to them. these fields are not very attractive for non-governmental sectors because there are not many applicants. by the way, it should

focus its governance duties such a field, or a field that has a good job market, i am more interested in this field i don't know why the public sector should enter the competition and give it up. i don't know. accounting is one of the most widely used fields, even though now it is possible for all kinds of management fields, which have capabilities in the private sector, to come out of these . then you will see that the existing government credits are sufficient for the expenses of our public higher education , they do n't need tuition- paying courses. see many of these who have this interest for they don't make this decision to continue their studies and necessarily enter a university field that doesn't exist here . they have other bases, it may be cultural

, it may be economic, which is mostly the case, otherwise, if it was only a scientific issue, it seems to me that because of this, by the way, we we don't have a shortage, that is , the fields that are offered in the higher education system in the country are in perfect harmony with almost all the interests that exist in different scientific fields. mr. dr. mohseni, do you agree with the statement that fields such as pie sciences and you can see that these are the governments and the rest for example, fields that have a suitable market, see me , no, see, let me tell you one thing . you can't do academic work in the economics of higher education. look, i really believe that i wish you could see. i don't want to say it now. i'm saying that public universities

should receive funding according to the role they play in the production of science in the country. universities in securing their independence. you see, i sometimes say university now, for example, i think that if i say this now, you might interpret it ok, we have to talk about it for hours. i think that the independence of universities, which is the basis of academic independence, is greatly weakened in our state universities. at different levels of our universities now, just because they are public universities and they receive from the budget , their academic authority is influenced by this dependence. i have said this many times. i think that we are coming from one side, we are advertising. we

say, sir , universities have an article of permanent decrees. various institutions are making rules for them, which means that they do not have the religious independence that a university should have. by the way , i believe on this basis that the fields that were mentioned, such as accounting and philosophy, etc., should be in universities. state education. it should be given in a good quality form and even the basic sciences, and one of the reasons you say is that maybe our non-governmental universities can't

show themselves very well in these fields. i do it in different ways our country is this weak, this is the government. the presence of universities has led to widespread supervision, for example, by the administrative court of justice, on many of the scientific, educational and research activities of our universities, so see, then you say. due to the fact that it is private, it may be a little more independent than public universities in terms of the type of decisions it makes, but in any case, this field and these sciences should be taught in universities that have a long history of education and research, i don't think so. i want the country's problem

to be solved by giving it to the private sector, which means we should come to a university in tehran and tell them not to teach these courses anymore, we want this. let's go, teach the legal department, teach the private department , i will know later, i think mr. dr. ghafoor was of the opinion that a fee should be charged for those courses , like other universities, that is, public universities should have them, but it would be expensive, no, no , i say this. a student would like to study in a university called tehran university, we cannot tell him this, i would like to make a point, maybe in fact a misunderstanding sometimes happens, we

have a large state university network in the country, so actually he wants to make a decision about everyone quickly calls tehran, sharif and amir industrial university kabir and ina mean that they give examples of a few indicators and take a general verdict for all public university networks according to the capacities they have , while you yourself know that there is no correlation between them in fact. the level of science in public universities is not necessarily equal. of the public universities , only some of them have this brand, this position, and this reputation. by the way, i am saying that a regulatory body outside the ministry of science and the ministry of health is needed, that's why you should see this. your order is finished, then keep you for them , mr. doctor, see, i mentioned something to you what you say about the independence of the universities is clearly a violation of the independence of the universities . you say that we should put an external institution in. now

let it say whether this university has quality or not. the peacock feathers that state universities have are harmed by it. the independence that we call the independence of universities has a scientific basis. it also has a scientific basis. you see, a university is a place that has the ability to produce science. it has this quality shut down, don't shut down, this has no quality, shut down, or here, you brought the quality down , i'll bring the budget down, this is clearly a violation of the independence of authority. it is the science of universities that i don't know what basis this can have. please tell

me that first of all, the university has been seen to have various functions, it is not just the production of science , it has been the responsibility of the university for a period of time that the experts needed at night, for example should he educate the government body, or even now, one of his duties is these, that is, it is not only the science production department. another point is the issue of independence you see, the university is an institution that emerged from western civilization, and by the way, it is one of the most prominent institutions that emerged from western civilization. and they try to reproduce the same thing here, i think that's what you expect. the one who leaves the university in another civilization model is not necessarily compatible

, but what is our model for this work, first of all , there is a lot of debate, maybe something called hikmat banyan university, i have been thinking about it for a while now. for the past four or five years, the supreme council of the cultural revolution has been in charge of this work, so that it can solve part of this problem and we can define what the independence of the university means. what does the mission orientation of universities mean? by the way, i want to say the same thing. if our collection of public universities is injected into them , they will suffer from the same impact that you said, because they have the same government credit, as a body. an employee is created, either in his faculty or in his staff, and that agility, that necessary agility , happens to be lost due to the government budget. like the university of applied scientific society in the past few years, because the market is important to them

, they put aside the start of fields that are not used , they revise new fields because they have to maintain this market. that agility in the non-government sector is much more serious. it seems to me that one of the disadvantages of public universities is that they receive the same budget, and for this reason, it should not be expanded, but it should be taken to the point that a mission should be defined for the public university itself. and it should be designed and based on that, they should get credit and be accountable for their quality, mr. doctor obviously. at all, an administrator cannot be his own supervisor. this is very clear . it also has meaning in any other field. the university and the ministry of science, which itself is the administrator of higher education, cannot evaluate itself . it will definitely have a bias. i was surprised when you said that the university is a western phenomenon.

we know the university as it is today, and we have the field, which is a completely coincidental flow. i think that the field is more independent than our universities in terms of independence . constituent the culture of the society, politics and economy of the last 120 30 years, that is. i want to say this way that weakening the university means weakening the country , which means that if our universities lose their authority , see, now we can act independently in the admission of students, for example, not in

the recruitment of the university's faculty, but how much is left in the production of content. well, for example, let's assume that the university came and held a meeting about a political issue. how do you know that the head of the judiciary is not going to come from the judiciary? see, the university we want to talk about is a university that he can carry a social burden and the universities of our country can be said to be first class . we have a right in the constitution called the right to education. you say the right to education. what should we do if our public universities

do not have the right to education to fulfill this duty. how about this right to education? it is mentioned in article 30 of the constitution, and then it is referred to in paragraph 3 of article 3 and so on we also have this in international documents that we are members of, such as articles 26 and 27 of the universal declaration of human rights or article 4 of the political agreement or articles 13 and 14 of the economic , social and cultural covenant, which we are all members of. he wants to implement this right to education . if we tell the public university that from now on, your public university will not teach philosophy, teach accounting, audit, teach special sciences, so what will happen to this right to educate people? so, if i am doing part of the right to education in this country, then you are also responsible

you are supporting me, now the support we want from you is to provide at least part of the budget , that's what i am saying. the public university is paid to them with this budget, which does not solve their problems at all. it is a part of the budget. sometimes , as you know, when the first budget is published , we look and see many institutions that are now in different cities or works that are actually institutions. there are those who work on islamic sciences, culture and civilization. sometimes, for example, they are located near the university of tehran, which means, for example, even more or a little less, but we have to see that the university. what is tehran doing or what is sharif university doing, mr. kokhle, please see the statistics show that 75% is actually credit. the average from university to university may be different. about 75% of the credits required by public universities are provided by the government. as a rule

, the other 25% is much less from the same income activities. this is the report that is officially available. i can say about tehran university. that the budget of tehran university is about 60%, 60% and much less. now, i am referring to the report of majlesh research center, but it is supported by government education. let him design the same amount of work for him, leave those other parts . what is necessary? yes, what is the need? you did not answer that point about the right to education . he says that the student has gone to the entrance exam and khan has given him the opportunity to come and study philosophy at tehran university. where do you say he should go? how can you have the right to education

and the fields that cannot be provided, mr. doctor, see the article 3 of the constitution says that self-sufficiency is the limit of self-sufficiency. provided , there is still a specific and limited share that we do not remove from government education, that government education remains free government education, to the extent of the same governance duties, but this may not necessarily include all fields and all academic trends. no, this word "governance duties " is not accurate. look at the duties. at all, our university is an independent institution. we cannot say that it only wants to produce power for governance, which is one of the main functions of the university system. otherwise, why should the employment of graduates be an issue in the country, because this is it has not been realized or there is a problem, not employment

well, yes, it is a national policy. i agree that it is possible that many of our fields are over capacity and there should be a general policy. in this 7th program, there is going to be a field refinement of fields that are similar, for example, to be merged or reduced. they agree, but for us to come and say that let's come now, for example, let's turn the task of the university over to the government sector and give the rest to the private sector . i don't think this is a very defensible statement, so my point is, first of all, public universities, after setting their own mission the right to education , whatever it is, the right to education must be implemented fact the fields that do not fit in the scope of their mission should be handed over to the private sector, and secondly

, their tuition payment system should be stopped. let the office come to the office to measure the quality and say whether this graduate has quality or not, for example , create a standard organization. for the universities, this is completely unacceptable. the second point is that you actually did not have the same answer. the only point is that the evaluation of the performance of the higher education complex requires a cross-departmental device that should actually carry out that validation . what is left of the independence of the university? if so, thank you very much to both guests of the program.

the threats of daniel hagari , the spokesperson of the zionist army, against lebanon and the slogans of securing the settlements in the north of the occupied territories have not only failed to make the settlers return to these areas, but ethan david, the mayor of margaliot, believes that the three-month displacement has caused the settlers to seek a new place to live. and shamaneh's kiryats are under direct fire from hezbollah. the commander of the army staff and the spokesman of the army said: the war in the north may be longer and wider. what are they really

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in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful, hello, dear viewers , at 20:30 , i am at your service with some news from atbaa section, coinciding with the year of imam's birthday. mohammad taqi, peace be upon him, a celebration ceremony was held by afghan immigrants in mashhad. this event was organized by imam javad mohajerin charitable institution, resident of mashhad.