the first course has been completed, the second course and the third course are being conducted. these courses are being conducted and there is a need to strengthen and support them so that these people can be equalized based on the sources of iranian medicine based on the book of sina's law. based on the correct teachings of this medicine , in this part and in the next parts , a series of trainings for the deputy of the judiciary have been given in other parts, but as you say, this should be continued, this should

be widespread, so that all the people who are under the coverage of these services is to adapt their teachings to the teachings let them be the same, let their teachings be standardized , let it be true that it is a very good job, i don't think anyone would disagree with the fact that mr. kadsha is now in charge of verifying the reality of this issue . in fact , there are those who have university education. we are going to come and examine our people in this group that was formed in the ministry of health. there are also a series of hakims, professors who are not doctors at all, but being hakims is approved by the university , not the university, these universities are affiliated with these faculty, as you said, no, not a course. it was done by giving this hakim degree to some people and then it was stopped. now this evaluation is starting again, and god willing , we hope, like you, this will be done and marj will get out of this embarrassing situation.

it is necessary to see that it is correct. it is necessary for every collection to make this adaptation correctly , and those who do, those who have scientific experience , those who have scientific studies, those who have seen different professors and the professors of this medicine, maybe it was not a university at all, working and reaching very good places, these are completely university the university has given them degrees and specified them. he used them as the professors of this field to identify them. in the university , you said that it is possible for someone to come to this field and not be able to learn this field well . it has been done like this, among the doctors and pharmacists , their specialization course, phd, has been defined for them, and for now , they are the specialist course of traditional medicine.

in addition to this, different courses have been defined for traditional medicine, unfortunately, they have not been approved yet approval, god willing, that these events will happen, that we will have good news about attari, those who have experience in this science, the bylaws have been written, approved, the above documents have all been done, only the implementation remains, as we are talking now , we are really waiting for that. let this be implemented. it is not necessary for someone to be a specialist doctor. there may be one or two people in this team, they are not doctors, they are sages , they are respected by everyone, they are accepted by everyone, this gentleman , for example, i don't want to go by name now, some of the names are really people who are accepted by everyone, and you also accept them. we have and i agree that all of them are academics and non-academics, and they are doctors and specialists . there is an evaluation set that takes two to four tests to make this evaluation correct. to what extent should you work

and get these things done, mr. i really want to say where is the problem, that is why the group that opposes university education is against this issue. you have to show that you are against university education in any case, there are some people who oppose it and believe that the same thing that mr. arsem said may lead to a rent, but again we will go under the umbrella of, for example , doctors who have university education, and some of those doctors may basically have an angle with traditional medicine, and this . the discussion is now mr. arres , i want to make a point that now i think a central part of this challenge goes back to our field of medicine, the methodology that we have now is an experimental methodology that this science of common medicine was formed based on this. it continues and is going to continue . we also have a second methodology that is similar to the methodology the sciences and religious knowledge are ours. this second methodology is a narrative methodology, that is, as you suppose

, you want to say, sir, is this narration in jurisprudence a correct narration in jurisprudence? we have the same in the field of medicine, because we have many medical traditions , more than 10,000 traditions , maybe i am quoting this for some of us.

enough fast enough, we have 223 narrations, this article has been published, mr. dr. ilkhani, i wrote and published the article . in this field, 2,233 medical narratives are only ours we have tu kafi, which is the most reliable shiite book , from this number, based on what is written in darayat al-hadith, which is a reliable collection of the islamic computer science center noor , based on which this article was written, 1272 narrations, only tu kafi, are correct or reliable from the point of view of the document, it is one of the authentic narrations, i want to say that we have a huge reservoir and treasure of medical knowledge that if someone comes and learns this , it can really serve the health of the society . i want to apologize, i want to see that we do not have islamic medicine in the university, no medicine at all you see, any discipline, any science

, modern medicine, traditional, iranian, islamic, everything must have five medical techniques, if it does not have these five medical techniques, it cannot be a school. tehran university is both a medical and spiritual center , and the noor center is very efficient, which is based on the narration of the principles of islamic medicine . apparently, it did n't happen again, it didn't happen again, that is, these are the discussions that we can't rely on a knowledge of a single event, let's say this. he does the same in his position.

apparently, only one course was held in qom, a series of islamic medicine trainings, that too has ended. apparently, i am saying that this is being edited, it is being edited. you see, we can do whatever we want . scientific and such and such. see, all these are based on people who are good. in this work, i named one person, the others are many . there are many people in this work. i myself have read all these things that i have explained. i have studied the new medicine . i am a doctor. . i completed the traditional medicine course so, as you think, i did all those courses that you think about in islamic medicine and the narration of these, almost most of these, both in the examination and in the way of entering these rome, i am saying that we should not talk about anything that

let's destroy it. i'm not saying that islamic medicine exists or not. i'm not going into it at all. i'm saying that if you want to say islamic medicine, you should put these rules in front. say, sir , these are the five elements.

many of the many people you see in the name of medicine , don't ruin islamic medicine, please , it causes enough pain to islam, we serve allameh hassan. we were born in amoli. he returned and said, sir, a narration. he turned to some of his friends and said, "sir, work on this ." he said , "don't use the name of islam, the name of narration, for the time being. you have done 30, 40 articles, 40, 40 useful things with this. you have worked at the world level . then take it. this is a narration of islam. don't use religion as a reason, please use yourself as a reason , use your science as a reason, then you have to adapt to islam, why do you want us? hey , you know how much i am doing damage. please tell me which medical field from this there are no cases. first, please tell me whether the field of traditional medicine does not have any of these cases. see all specialties called medicine. islam in the name of islam, in the name of islam

, if you want to use this, this is not a good thing, let's kiss islam, let's put it aside, no, in order not to harm islam, i'm not saying to islam , don't harm it, in the name of islamic medicine , don't do your own thing, it's wrong, pay attention. don't think that in any specialty there may be people who use it. yes , there is islamic medicine in traditional medicine as well. the first the book is published from the four-volume islamic ijtihadi medicine course , the name of the book has no scientific origin, and that's what i'm giving, mr. doctor. look at the methodology, if you know the scientific origin, mr. doctor . there is a methodology of narration, you can say it if you want. in islam, because it is not based on scientific traditions , you should leave the entire jurisprudence

aside, and you should leave the entire hadith science aside. i am saying that those principles and laws have not been put together. i read and explain i'll explain, please excuse me. if you say that it is not in this book, which is compiled based on more than 10 thousand medical narrations, which has four volumes, you are correct in the medicine of rasool al-mustafa. there are three sub-titles, volume one and volume one with the same title. diseases are based on the narrations of the definitions of the disease . various diseases are described in the narrations. the second volume is the general treatment. we do not expect anyone to replace conventional medicine with islamic medicine. if he wants to include it in the form of traditional medicine , he must say that this is medicine, no, by the way, islamic medicine has its own principles. i think you should see it at all.

volume one, all the narrations that are in the field of diseases are collected under the title of al-amrast, volume two , general treatment, we have a series of narrations, for example, it says that apples are a part of the treatment of diseases, for example, the treatment of diseases that are caused by the predominance of bile is the treatment of diseases that are caused by the predominance of phlegm. in volume two of islamic jurisprudence, i say that you cannot enter khabani

, based on traditional medicine, based on traditions , based on islamic medicine . if we want to talk about diseases, that is a discussion in itself it is independent, i have presented the first and second volumes of diseases , general treatment, volume 3, specific treatments and prevention, there is also a fourth volume, which is related to the title of the prophet's instructions on health and longevity , i have presented these four volumes, 20 years of night work , let me come. for now, i am clarifying, you are kissing the essence, you let me prove the essence, and then we will go to the basics. now you are talking about the basics. the basics should be a part of the basics of islamic medicine . there is a discussion of the temperaments, bile, soda, phlegm, blood, all this is detailed in about

120 pages based on your traditions the volume has two chapters , i wrote the book myself, i wrote the book root treatment natural diseases in islamic medicine and the root treatment of diseases, there are maybe 300 pages in this book , all of these are the basics based on temperament , especially the diagnosis and treatment of diseases. the basic principles will be philosophy, this will be logic, then it will go to your pillars, what do we have about the pillars?

you haven't read it. you haven't read it yet. read imam sadiq's tawheed mufazlu. it says that man was created from mud, water and dust, the winds blew on him, my sun blew on him, he loved you all, i love him, hey , i'm asking you, look at your foundations, i said, you are the pillars that you say that if you want me to fall into the framework of traditional medicine, i did not say that islam has its own foundations and its own pillars. i am not against islamic fever. i am not against this at all. many people are doing harm, many people are doing vandalism , many people are profiteering, many others are profiteering , whether it is traditional medicine or modern medicine, anyone who violates it should be stopped, but in islamic medicine

, the basics are still included in that education. it is not correct. this should be a very scientific work. i completely agree. i completely agree come to the university , there is no problem, come to the university, the topics should be presented there, the professors should be evaluated, their qualifications should be approved , they should be trained, it is also a great thing , in general, a national islamic medicine research center should be established, to express the traditions , theoretical work, practical work, very good, this is very good. great, but let's come, let's come, this

hasn't been formed yet, this hasn't been cited yet, these haven't been aligned, let's come, whoever comes in the name of medicine. i have read two narrations about islam. do you disagree with this? read two narrations. go ahead and say that i know islamic medicine and it hurts people. you can see a lot of the damage that i mentioned, as i studied both traditional medicine and islamic medicine, the damage that is caused by plants that have been confirmed in the traditions compared to the plants that have not been confirmed in the traditions , such as rosehip and some other plants that are also used. unfortunately, there are zero side effects of herbal medicines in the narrations. or severely less than herbs, do you have an article , see how many works in this regard, we have a reference book , iran's generic herbal medicines, i don't know if it's a book, yes, in this book , you have a turgi like chicory, which, for example , is mentioned in the narrative, and it is highly praised for its side effects. him look at the side effects of borax, which we do not have any narrations to confirm. based on this, i am

saying that if someone enters islamic medicine, compared to someone who enters traditional medicine. for those who enter conventional medicine, the first side effects of islamic medicine are much less than those of others. as a result, i wanted you to give statistics , that's why if you gave statistics, it would be clear which case is more in the forensic medicine. now you say that the complications of this are more. if you say that you are an expert, you are accusing islamic medicine and tell me that this has many complications. what are the statistics? islamic medicine really has more side effects, it may have many side effects from chemical drugs, many surgeries have many side effects, this article describes its side effects, but many times it is called islamic medicine. you see, you are using islamic medicine . we have a case for a patient with a child. he took 20 pills of medicine to a 2-year-old child, which new medicine can never do. traditional medicine can never do this . he gave 20 pills of medicine to a two-year-old child from sana and the rose and other things

he says because they came in the narration, well, this is mr. doctor i have some copies to show you.

everything you experience is really true. it was in traditional medicine, right ? why don't we allow surgery in traditional medicine? why don't we allow surgery in islamic medicine? it's only in conventional medicine that they came to restrict it. then now they say, "look, you can't

do this. well, you took me by the hand. we won't let go. i was training in surgery. i used to do surgery. see, this is a problem for you . you see, we have surgery. i am a doctor . i am a doctor. spine surgeon the brains of surgeons, orthopedic surgeons , they have traditional and islamic medicine, they get help from me, they work, we have heart surgeons, let me introduce a few people who are on this path, along with them, we should not ignore them, what they are doing is contradictory. no, what you are saying is that they can't, they can, they can , they can stop me this way. you said that if someone comes with a ruptured pelvis, what do you want to do with it? i said, finally, someone who is qualified should do the surgery, you should name them. you mentioned them, i won't name them . they asked mr. so-and-so haj from shiraz university of medical sciences mr. so-and-so, if the patient was to ask the same question to him, mr. mohagheghzadeh was the vice-chancellor of the university

, the doctor asked him this question about those who are interested in traditional islamic fever. he said that mr. so-and-so said that you are talking about islamic medicine, sir. he came and said we have it for him. he said that we have a problem, which you answered very well. i really accept your answer . it should be given to us, it should be evaluated, it should be canceled , and then we will say it was wrong, but unfortunately, i can't believe it. because you haven't seen it, if you had seen it

and experienced it, you would also believe that i have it i say that in a situation where the patient's blood pressure has dropped, he needs icu , he needs special care. if the doctor needs this, i understand, but if you want to take one part , leave another part, for example, silent. if you are talking about surgery. we say surgery, incidentally, except that we have an emergency surgery , there is a non-emergency surgery , we can have islamic medicine surgery, we can have both traditional medicine and common medicine surgery. you can't come to university for traditional medicine, as you say you can come, you can't talk about surgery at all , now we will say, well, a surgery is necessary , there is also an emergency, traditional medicine, you can do something , traditional medicine, you can, you can't, so go and put it aside, then it's up to you.

it is not common. he is trained , he has obtained a license, and he can do it. now, you can use modern medical tools and all these cares through the ic machine.

let's not discuss too many examples , i just want to say that i think that mr. aresteh actually says that we, as a large part of traditional and iranian medical science, is from experience, it is not classified and maybe it can't be taught. do you want to quantify this through those who actually do not read the science, in fact, the common medicine? i am very opposed to this. maybe you have the right methods, so now you can call it whatever you want, whoever wants to call it islamic tradition. have a correct method, some people disagree, they don't like this method , and i am talking about people who have their own chest, this is the path, they follow islamic medicine, traditional medicine, read narrations with heart, work, be interested , there are many of us, not one or two. many of the experts i am talking about do not disagree

the one who is opposed to working less than 40 to 50 scientific articles in the world is not allowing many things to be used, the position was not created , not creating a hospital bed for a small department, not giving this to you, i am with you. i agree, but to say whether this is sitting, not working, not doing anything , why did it work? the supreme leader himself said in his speech that this is a scientific work. the scientific articles in

the scientific works done in the university have been scientifically proven. thank you very much, rola. i think we will have time in a minute, now considering that our views are also related to the issue of parliament elections. i would like to ask, if i want to make this issue legal, what do you have to offer? just for a minute, i think that if we have islamic medicine or traditional medicine for this, what experts and experts have ? the basics of our writing work. let's not disagree, blindly disagreeing, blindly agreeing will cause harm. this is the health of people's lives. with your time, a sum of money will go out of your pocket. your food will be lost. it's one thing, but once we work with people's lives, we must write this down. do it right. let's do our job right let's do it through the parliament . what are your suggestions to the next

parliament ? i am coming based on the constitution, in any case, the parliament is obliged to act according to the constitution, if a group of law-abiding people is to act according to the constitution , it is better to punish the parliament itself than anywhere else . the administration of the country should be based on ijtihad. my question is whether ijtihad was used in the field of health or not. this is the first question . limited people i am asking whether people's freedom in choosing the type of medical school is respected now or not? it is not observed even in traditional medicine. insurance does not include traditional medicine easily. this is now something against freedom and against the constitution. associations, communities, these should be free. i am now asking if we want to have an islamic medicine association, will this freedom be given or not? everyone is free to have any job according to article 28 of the constitution. is

anyone now? i want to treat even if my qualification has no authority, do you allow this or not ? i want to say that according to the constitution, people have this right. darren, but now it is not allowed to be in this assembly , right? well, thank you very much for our time . i am grateful to all of you. i am grateful to both of you for joining us in this discussion .