they have experienced golestan and now they have been working in the government for many years . accepted by the islamic council . we can have first-hand memories of the first periods of the parliament, which was a completely different era from the recent periods of the parliament, and many of the activities of the parliament were decisive and decisive for the revolution and the country . be healthy , mr. kamiyar, how did you become? 27-year-old representative in the second term.

majlis yes, in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful, and in the name of god, alhamdulillah, the lord of the worlds. i came to this gathering for the first time. the memories of this gathering were renewed for me. the assembly was here, yes, for a period, yes , your fifth assembly was here. what year did you go to the parliament for the second term, when did the second term start in 1963, 63 to 67 , the term of the islamic council started in the summer. you were formed in 1963. yes, now regarding your question, how did you come to the parliament, the fact is that i was during

the so-called revolution, just before the revolution , we were in revolutionary activities as warriors and as fighters. in 1960, i was in the islamic revolutionary guards corps, and in 1962 , i was responsible for the affairs of the cities of west azarbaijan province, and when the issue of parliamentary elections came up, for the term second , we had a conversation with the representative of the religious jurist in the province and ayatollah qureshi , he recommended that so-and-so should come to the assembly, and i said that i did not have the issue of the assembly, but according to the advice of our elders , we entered the parliament, but because we are in the city as urmia, which was our constituency, according to several aspects of our family and the so-called cases. our revolutionary

was known to the people. we had more than 7 martyrs in our family. and i myself was in the so-called army, i was forced to fight, and may god have mercy on your dear dead. therefore, these works went hand in hand that our vote was almost higher than the others. how many brothers did you have? our sister has approximately 6 brothers and 2 sisters . well, at that time, one of your brothers was martyred. one of my brothers was martyred. he was younger than me. you went to the parliament, how many representatives were in the parliament as young as you, it was limited, i don't know the number.

but at that time, one of the issues that actually bothered me as soon as i entered the parliament was that one of the representatives, as the youngest representative , would become a member of the presiding committee, but i almost became a member of the presiding committee, and i would follow the number later. i didn't know how many people, but it was limited . there were a limited number of so-called people of the same age as us . i don't know the number of them . second, what was the news of the second parliament? in fact , considering that the first issue that was the slogan of the second parliament was the issue of the front and the war, and the issues of the front and the war influenced the issues and therefore the second parliament should be held. from the beginning, as a holy defense council , we were influenced by all of our resolutions, all of our issues were going back to the war

, including, for example, my servant in my constituency in relation to the issues of road and road safety and the lack of even for example, some of these things like oil and these were considered a problem at that time because they didn't arrive, really queuing. there were subsistence goods, all of which were affected by the war, and due to these restrictions, the government's income was really very low at that time. we have very little income, in fact, the government could. if there was no public aid then the public aid to the front would have been very high. people are really participating and therefore the parliament is influenced

these were the currents. and from a political point of view, i would like to say that the parliament, as the consequences of the previous term, means the first term of the parliament for the period of the term. it had reached the second time, most of the issues almost reverted to the factional discussion, and this was the majlis at that time, considering that almost in the first term of the majlis , the islamic republic of iran party was one of the so - called determinants of the majlis in the first term, but after the second majlis, the first majlis when the second parliament started, the factionalism within the parliament became very high and the division started . this factionalization had an effect and that's why, for example

, we saw the islamic republic party slowly in the second parliament, so to speak. may god have mercy on him, his wick came down and it almost became the right wing and the left wing . different issues were happening that almost these factions were placed side by side . the left movement prevailed and unfortunately , in the third parliament, many representatives tried to put a so-called line on their credentials, and this caused some of the first parliament to fail. it started with tension and it took 40 to 50 representatives

who, for example, wanted the credentials of the third parliament . the majority of the parliament in terms of fairness caused the parliament to find its own way after the passage of time , and so to speak , it moved well in terms of drafting laws and moving towards various issues. the war was not over yet, not in the third parliament. assembly. it was the second parliament, if we want to have the problems of the third parliament , it was the approval of resolution 598, which accepted the end of the war and the ceasefire in the parliament, and it was approved in the parliament.

and almost after that, different and normal issues were taken up. do you have a memory of the second parliament that is related to, for example, your youth? he said, "but we in the parliament, considering that, well, i was a representative of the city, i had come from urmia, tehran itself, he says that the revolutionary figures that we knew from there, who are present in the parliament, are very exciting for us, so to speak. we were going to join national figures and be able to be influential, but inside the parliament , a series of conflicts and interests occurred to me, the same youth you mentioned, which caused at first , i didn't really expect to see issues that

he didn't like, so it took almost a year or two for me to come to my senses, and then, so to speak, the reason was that you saw the expectations you had of the revolutionaries inside the parliament. that these expectations were not met, especially pirmah and not , for example, a bank from the city . it was very annoying to observe some morals it was not possible for some extremisms, for example, one did not expect , after all, may god have mercy on the imam , the majlis told the imam that there should be a conflict of opinions, or a conflict of votes

. at the same time, it started in the second parliament, there was a clash inside the parliament , which you expected and you said no, it wasn't like that, but it was not a defensible clash, and it is a moral thing. i gave a lecture about the field of choice for example, after i spoke, a representative came after me and distorted my words, and the one that i had not said, he said that, for example , it had nothing to do with my constituency , and i was in the news, but he came to speak he distorted me without a doubt. i came there , i was sitting up there. my friends told me that mr. so-and-so discussed your arguments. for example, i was forced to do so. at that time , we had an article 71 that insulted any representative, so to speak

, we can protest and speak out. you don't know about my choice , you shouldn't judge about the issues of my constituency, for example, one of these, for example, i shouldn't have entered, and the same issues are an example that, in my words, directly or in some cases, for example, some representatives in relation to the plan that they wanted to for example, i came to you by force to vote while i should leave you free. you can vote yourself. there should be no imposition in the votes . there should be freedom of action in the parliament or not to tolerate opposing votes when, for example, for example, you used to say something, i couldn't tolerate it, for example sae i used to say that you were close to the right wing or the left wing, i was almost

considered to be right wing from the point of view of analysis, but the fact was that in cases where i felt, for example, that the votes were different , for example, my diagnosis was different. i had esteghlal, yes , it was at that time , that is, until the 6th and 7th period, while people said that i am with you, but esteghlal expected to keep his vote . but when, for example , he was free to express his opinions regarding the plans and conditions of interference he didn't give in to his criminal and political side , he tried to really be able to do it. my belief is that a representative must first consider god almighty before the votes he gives. the answer

is that you can defend your vote in front of the people who want to vote for you, for example , you can defend the people's vote even in the absence of the people, and you cannot, for example , be guided by your political criminal interests, god forbid you have the wrong side. but not in cases where, god forbid, a right would be lost , you became a minority in the third parliament. third, almost yes, we were the minority. fourth, what is in the parliament in the fourth parliament, it is almost impossible to say that the balance was established. mr. natiq nouri was the speaker of the parliament and i became the chairman of the audit committee of the parliament during that period, and one of the things we did in our parliament was our national work. kuwait was the seat of the court of accounts in the country. well, you remember that the court

of accounts is a body that supervises the financial performance of the government, and it is the only so-called supervisory part of the parliament that has an independent organization. article 9 is the court of accounts which is formed according to the constitution i, the chairman of the commission of the court of accounts ward in the 4th parliament , put more emphasis on strengthening the court of accounts, and alhamdulillah, we got good results. the first issue. which was the same issue of budget subtraction, budget subtraction, you have an exception, in fact, the record shows the government's financial performance in one year, and now that the audit court can actually be said to be very effective in the so-called budget adjustment, this formulation, so-called budget subtraction , is very effective there is, therefore, one thing we

did at that time was that, unfortunately, for example, when we were placed in the commission, subtracting, for example, 13 years ago, 10 this happened last year, so i, as the head of the commission, told the official of the accounts court that you should let them go, bring the same subtraction from last year to be effective for the formulation of the new budget, and it did a good job, alhamdulillah. you can be proud that this is the discussion of subtraction and excellence and strengthening. fortunately, the supreme leader at that time , when we met with them, said that we had hope for the activities of the audit bureau and their support made the audit bureau grow , it was really effective because you know that supervision in the country is one thing. if we weaken or weaken this supervision

, it will actually affect the performance. one of the issues that we had in the fourth parliament and other issues that we had in the fourth parliament was support for this economic debate , various issues, especially me during the period. second , as you said, in my third term , we brought the plan regarding the increase in the price of buying wheat from farmers. it was a very good plan in order to strengthen our own agriculture. and instead of buying and importing from abroad , people can use the so-called self-planted products. now you said, this is what i remember. governments are very opposed to the plan that i put forward in the parliament, and they say that it is interesting

, they say that sir, we don't have dollars or rials , let's buy wheat. after seeing that they can get their hands on it, they finally had to accept it because the government did not accept it and the parliament did not accept it either, and fortunately the parliament accepted it and it caused the so-called increase in the purchase price over time , which led to the growth of wheat planting in the country and alhamdulillah to even it came close to self-sufficiency in this regard or , for example, in relation to agricultural products, i can say for example, this is the same. it was one of the events of the third parliament that i tried to discuss the export of urmia apples, one of the things that the parliament should do . the reason was that the importer

was more fortunate. to come to our government's help , we got a decree from the government that anyone who can actually export kilos of apples can import 2 kilos of bananas. at that time, it was not like now , it was very beneficial for them, and this made many of us in relation to the export of apples to different countries and with the strengthening of the so-called preservation of orumiyeh orchards, and the apple product , alhamdulillah, something in this regard, and even fortunately , where were the apples of different countries exported, because you know that one of the things that means not being neighbors is far, not neighbors. i wasn't there at that time, but the competition went to dubai first. from dubai , they took different countries. what was the name of your commission? i

have experienced four commissions in these three periods. i did the commission of institutions of the revolution first because i came from jihad, which no longer exists. in the next two years, i went to the commerce commission . i was there in the fourth year. we were in commerce . i came to the third parliament. economics. you came to the third parliament. you came to the fourth economy. what is the fourth? it is the commission of the court of accounts. that is the commission of the court of accounts. how many commissions did we have in the fourth? at the time of the merger, the same commission of the court of accounts was merged with the budget program commission . later, in the following periods, but at that time, i remember that the number of commissions was twice the current situation, and people in the commissions were very limited, for example, 10 or 12 people were not included in the commission. that's 270 people

in the so-called average of 12 people in the commissions after the fourth parliament, what did you do then, the first thing we did in connection with the implementation , the experience of these three periods showed me that, well , in the so-called legislation, we almost reached the so-called i felt enough that finally we and that's why i decided to go to the executive issues , but in order to solve the fact that i don't have any responsibility in front of the people, i became a candidate for the fifth term, but because more of the national issues were dealt with, my presence in orumieh itself was less because i say he gave importance to national issues. because i plan to enter

there were executive issues, and i almost immediately got into executive issues. first of all, the same discussion you said started in the country . we were there for a couple of years when the parliament affairs department came up with the so-called criminal events and two khordads. two khordads said, sir, you did not understand the two khordads . i was alarmed that my embassy was closed . they said no. i was in the case of sada vasima in kermanshah and golestan, and after that due to the fact that tehran is related to the ministry it was announced that it was necessary for me to come as

the deputy minister of parliamentary affairs, the deputy minister of parliamentary affairs, ministry of welfare . i was there for two years, and after that i was elected as an advisor to the court of accounts. the court of accounts was elected through the islamic council. are you interested in going to the parliament? if i pressure you, you are ready to participate in the elections. for me, it has usually been the case that wherever the almighty god decides, i can serve more, and i have not set many goals for myself, and so far, for example, in the parliament. it was the same, and by the grace of almighty god, only you also pray that almighty god will grant me success to be able to serve. the more effective the place , the more successful the service can be, whether it is the parliament or the government, these are all in the same so-called system

, but influencing is very important, for example, a person should be in a place where he knows the work and can be useful for the official position. don't be motivated, i just said that if you are placed, you should see first that you can really serve better there. but if he can't, no, he shouldn't go to the parliament if i go to the parliament again, i can be influential , considering the experience that i have now in dealing with the issues of the executive branch, especially the court of accounts , considering that the court of accounts has general authority over the current issues of the country, and the budget and various issues. it shows the different dimensions of budget spending. our mps actually need this information

. incidentally, in my opinion, you said it. my memory is that i came to the parliament for a while. after a while, i felt that i wish the mps really knew the country. we are one of the advantages of the so-called representatives our country is from different countries. but here, when they come to the parliament, they should know that they are the representative of the whole country. one of the issues that i have experienced is that the representatives should give priority to the general issues and prefer the national issues first. we don't want it, then the parliament member comes and runs after the same issues that he is in his constituency, but he throws bombs and gets less results, and this causes

us to fall behind in national and macro issues, if our representatives have enough information about the whole country. beshan is very influential in drafting the laws now. if you were to go to the 12th parliament yourself or to other representatives who are going to the 12th parliament, god willing, what advice do we have for them? what is the important task of the country ? pay attention to this experience. these should be taken into consideration and in both directions , in my opinion, it should be strong and active in making laws

. well, one of the issues that the country expects from these representatives is that the representatives should study the laws, both in the draft and in the plan. they should try because if these studies and this so-called don't do research on the bills. well , inside the parliament, the representative has to refer to the opinions of others. i will look at you and see what kind of vote you give. for example, yes, it used to be customary for some people to say that the gentleman looks at the speaker of the parliament to see that if the speaker stands up , he will also stand up or vote, but now the system has changed and they are beating him, i can't see it, but this is very important, first of all, in relation to legislation. i believe that the representative should be knowledgeable about laws. the main priority of the representative is because

the law is for the whole country. our laws are strong be prudent, consider all dimensions , consider the so-called conflict with other laws, the next issue is about supervision, supervision. well , i have to see in relation to the law, where these laws passed by the parliament will go in practice , we should not, for example, let's just picture it, yes , let's return our romance again, let's look for another law. let us see the law that has caused the effect of its implementation, its obstacles, its issues, and if necessary, even take action to amend that law, god willing, those who succeed will be those who are truly religious and pious the high people should consider that they should tell the assembly that they should

take into consideration the words of imam rahmatullah (a.s.). they should be the essence of the virtues of the nation, they should know that they are role models for the people. when they are role models for the people, naturally, they should be very diligent in considering various issues in the second parliament, which i don't know. it was a war, but you were threatened , not threatened. i was threatened by the governments, for example , it was not the third or second parliament, no, it was not the second, the reason for this is now in the second parliament. the matter that came up, well, we are in the process, this so-called scheming discussion brings up some issues, but this did not prevent us from actually being able to do it.

to have a direct threat, but in a factional way, but in the issue of so-called assurance, well, for some times, for example, it happens in the commission , for example, there was a reference to you, for example, sir, do something like this , for example, we also correct you, for example , we make you participate, sir, for example in your factory , for example, solve this problem for us, for example, you are finally not alone, your son, your people, finally , we are partners.