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tv   [untitled]    February 25, 2024 3:00pm-3:31pm IRST

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the reason for the opposition is why we don't do the same with gasoil . it answers the issue, so if we are going to give gasoline to the national card, we should also give gasoil, so it shows that we are not going to solve the issues fundamentally, and we are planting roots to get into trouble . i will come to the issue later. we want to solve the economic problem politically. that solves this problem, you see, our main problem is that we didn't do it because we should do the work. the first thing is that we are the first holder of hydrocarbon reserves in iran. we are the first in the world, that is, we are the second holder of gas reserves in the world . we are the third holder of oil reserves in the world. can we be the first to say that we are in trouble now
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? well, if what the supreme leader said many times, don't sell crude oil, turn it into crude oil and dozens of other valuable products . if we had done this , now these discussions we had entered a bigger and better space and these problems at all. therefore, after the revolution, unfortunately , we did not build three or four more refineries . well, if we built refineries, employment would be created for the youth . employment would be created for the youth. they buy at a price, but young people are unemployed, people are poor , we can't change the price of gasoline in the same way.
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and for the same reason that we are not going to do that with gas , we should not do this with gasoline either, because if it is handed over to the national card, you can see that we have 24 million cars in the country, almost at the peak of use, 15 million of them are on the road and they are being used, if only a few they are using gasoline . if we come, we will pay this to the national card. moon will be three times twice the current situation, then how will we provide it considering that we are thinking we didn't hit the refinery, sell crude oil, import gasoline, that's the bad thing that we've been doing every year for several years and we didn't even listen to the orders of the leadership, so this is not the solution, then how do you want him to sell it? you need to use your national card, it is in the village, it is in the district
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, it is in different places, how do you want to sell it, that is, then you must have a middleman to sell it at the current price, and the government that does not sell it must sell it at a higher price, it is enough to ask for a higher price. selling means increasing the price in tens the products and products that are widely used by the same people, that is, we came and gave them 15 liters at that time. their peas , meat and beans, their bread will increase in price, and inflation will occur. again, the same people who we think are deprived, and this turkey is a political plan, we are talking about it, we will harm them more , those who have a good financial situation, who have no problems , after all, your gasoline. no matter what price you buy , there is no problem, but the main thing is that any increase in the price of fuel, especially gasoline, and doing this will be given to the card. nationalism causes inflation, which
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ultimately increases prices, and this is a different matter it is rational , in my opinion, it is very irrational. instead of this, let's build a refinery . the tehran refinery is producing 250,000 barrels of oil in two years. it is already producing. fars took time. the star of the persian gulf was launched and we almost ran out of energy. some of our production was more than consumption. at the same time , i told mr. engineer zangineh , don't worry. let's hit the refinery, which is the order supreme leader, no matter how it is implemented , let's not be a country that only sells crude oil, then america.
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so the way now is for us to start building a refinery that will provide employment for our own youth. thank you very much, mr. zamanian , why do you agree with the fact that we have gasoline subsidies and free gasoline in the country? at some point, we will reach a deficit , we will start doing technical work instead of solving the economic problem of gasoline properly. let's do the same thing that you see , limit the fuel card, i don't know, suspend the people at the station , we will start with these measures, then when the situation gets worse, the situation will become more difficult , we will go to the import of gasoline. the people's budget must
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be spent billions of dollars and the import of gasoline will take place, or the country will face problems, the government will also be in a state of emergency, and this will be imposed on the country in the cost of consumption. we remember that this is not possible anymore, then we say, what should we do, there is no time left for any correction, come back let's jump the pseudo-price , we will introduce a big price shock to the economy again, after the problem is solved, consumption reduction will happen again, we will go back to the beginning of the cycle, we will say that we have to do some basic things, and this chain will continue, i think. this has been happening since the 1940s until now. we gave a price shock to the society, and we were caught in the trap. in fact, we caught the people and we are still in this situation where we have to do some basic things. you say that the basic thing means let's build a refinery with which money should we build a refinery with which one of the tasks let's pay for a refinery, i say two refineries . yes, the country doesn't have money for a refinery with 3 billion dollars, no. first of all, with which money
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should we build a university ? we have 10% of the world's resources. he is doing an economic activity. you go and build a refinery. yes, the result of the refinery is good . i am not against building a refinery, but when you build this refinery , you must convert the oil you export into gasoline and diesel. how much does it cost to produce gasoline and diesel? one thousand tomans is the cost of production and transportation of one liter of crude oil. it is actually about 56,000 tomans. at least you spend it on the method. then you sell the gasoil and it costs 300 tomans. it is a loss. the logic doesn't work anymore. we will create a system that first
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restricts the country's oil exports, and do the same thing, no, i suggest that the refinery, which is actually supposed to be used for food, will not work as it is, and the oil we are exporting will become the country's budget .
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there is a distinction. the industry subsidy is different from the welfare subsidy. the subsidy we give to the factory in the case of gasoil is the subsidy we give to diesel. there are many problems with the industrial subsidy scheme. i don't want to get into
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it. i also want to move my house . i will buy a diesel car. it uses diesel. one person has 10 diesel cars and 100 buses , so it consumes a lot. why does he use it? why is it with me that the gasoil subsidy is different from the industry subsidy? we have a debate about it. you said, what is the difference with gasoil
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? i said, gasoline subsidy is generally a welfare subsidy. look, we are nothing comparable it is not with other countries that we can say the cost of fuel or the price of fuel in those countries , for example, one and two tenths of a euro , why is it not here? to a station in tehran, of course, don't hurt them. i kiss the hands of those who ride the subway in tehran, because we have a subway in tehran for about 300 kilometers, but in tehran, do you know that not all neighborhoods have access to the subway , that is, many of the same neighborhoods. tehran, now you don't have access to the subway, if you have such facilities as european countries how much do people get themselves out of the necessity that the consumption has gone up, otherwise if i say
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that you have a subsidy, you have a subsidy called gasoline subsidy , that's right. one-word question, we hope that we are not so poor that we give subsidies , now we are sorry , let us have a relief committee from these discussions, at all, if you only look at the fact that we are poor , we are going to make people poor, we are not a country that has poor people, at this level of service. you i don't know if you have ridden a lot of the same ones who came to iran. yes, i don't. you see, these are made for other countries so that the person who gets on board should go and sit on his seat, not for tehranis who ride with him.
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we don't have the right to choose the car. you have to buy the car that you have to buy. you have to buy a low-quality car. if you get into an accident , you may die. god forbid , you might die. 70% of them are expensive and polluting. sorry, we have 24 million cars. if it's a high-quality foreign car. enter this country right now 30 million liters 30 million liters. we will add 30 million liters of gasoline . let's say one liter for each car. see, there is no problem
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. what is your argument? the problem is that you, yes, very good. we will replace these 24 million cars with new cars and export 30 million liters of new gasoline. he says it's a low consumption car, of course it will cost 300 billion dollars to change all of this, i don't know which country has this money , but all countries
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have high quality cars . we take and give people 15 liters now or 20 liter, whatever we give, first of all, this is your wrong doing , then when can you get this money.
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has the sovereignty of the government taken over the pulpits , this government has taken over the facilities of this country to bring the people to prosperity and comfort in the best way.
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i will finish the area in a minute, see, so you are flying, someone who has two cars should fill with gas in this country , yes. gasoline is supposed to be low , so he should go and buy it. it creates that the price increase in the consumer products of peas, beans, meat and rice has no effect on the one who owns 10 cars, but we gave him 15 lei and we will get 10 times as much. in the course of this logic, he says, look, the logic of your words is clear.
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we don't include the price of gasoline, which is the money we get, which is not the total cost, which means that the total cost of gasoline in the country is more than this. either we are printing money , we are creating inflation, inflation is from the belt, from the pollen that kills, the poor is the rich, the damage is so much he doesn't see inflation, or are we actually coming to the sources of this work that we are doing now , we are limiting the construction budget, we are not building roads to the villages anymore , we are creating hospital problems
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, we are giving people marriage loans and telling the poor, look, this money is there. he is rich, we are importing 70 cents of gasoline for him, we are paying 5 cents out of your pocket, be satisfied with this, if god forbid, we want to mess up this logic , something bad will happen to you, iran will be in such a way that you will actually suffer worse, so be content for now. i think this is very clear logic and then you say it let's not do something to create another right , let's not see that trick has been created, that trick has been created today for the five tenths of the richest people in the society and they are using it, and you have no idea how to get that right. we are clearly saying that at least if there is an acquired right, let's give it to everyone. if we really want 500 tomans for gasoline , let 's give it to everyone. i used to say that i believe that
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we should get gasoline from everyone what do i know, it can be released at the price of fab, i had no problem with your logic. i said, finally, the logic is compatible, but you have a problem with explaining it fairly , this is a wrong way, as a result, this subsidy should go to the rich. first of all, this is not the case. we were supposed to be self-sufficient in all this according to the 1000-year plan by 2014. we have to export gasoline. look, you are saying. sorry, this is the same discussion that you are talking about. we do not follow plans and plans, long plans. we will not act as long as it can bring the destiny of this country to a good place let's make a decision. my decision is to tell people that i saw it before. they are giving me messages about coming to insta . you are hezbollah. you are a supporter of mustafain. why do you say that you are going to speak as an opposition? look, it is not like this
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, my dear, how much are you getting paid now? they should charge 5 dollars for gasoline in iran. look , i didn't say that i don't know how much gasoline should be. i'm saying that you have a subsidized gasoline. why do you have more of the world in iran? we're not talking about subsidies anymore. anyone who goes buys one or two tenths of a dollar. gasoline, in addition to what we didn't do and we don't want to do, it's true that you are not a fan of it, we can't do that because
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he doesn't get paid in dollars and his income is not in dollars , let's give him this. maybe we created an infrastructure. it is very easy to export this share of gasoline and its fuel. you have to earn in dollars. why shouldn't people's oil, gas, and gasoline be the people's income in dollars ? you see , the issue is simple. gasoline will solve the problem, no, i didn't say that how many times do you multiply it because it affects other prices, if he gets 100,000 tomans a month, he should leave 500,000 tomans a month, which means
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he should also leave another 400,000 tomans. this is not logical. i say, come and fix your bus fleet. i was the mayor, these cars are polluting, the mayor should go, they are high consumption , they do the environment a favor. let him ride, the driver is fine, so if i were the mayor, i wouldn't let him come to your city. if you don't do it, it will cause you to share the common theme of saudi arabia now . you say it's okay
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, now farzad saudi arabia is taking more. an economic zone is a refinery, not a source of renewable energy in the country, because as you
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say, look at all these things that you have produced for a few decades, they are actually good sources of energy in the country , the whole country should be provided with cheap energy. if you want to build a power plant, you have to make a loss i don't know if the government should print more money to print more money, but if it produces 5,000 megawatts of electricity, i don't know if it is a tradition or not. approximately 25 years, 30 years ago, you know, we
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had a huge power outage in tehran for several hours. i don't know. do you remember
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other opinions of supporters and opponents and the topic we are debating about, let's see , let's go back and continue the debate. seyed yaser jabraili , an expert on political issues, the person who calculates the difference in the price of gasoline in dollars and rials , and provides statistics on the payment of hidden subsidies, in the most optimistic case , made a mistake in it is understood that this is because he on the way to parliament it is enough if we don't do it. if justice is to be observed in the distribution of the country's resources, why only gasoline? every iranian's share of oil, gas, iron, egypt, gold, aluminum, lead, manganese, sulfur, sea, forest , etc. should be given to him. ali maleki, an expert on economic issues , should establish a market within the country by allocating gasoline to each national code, in which the price of gasoline
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is determined regardless of international prices. now due to fixation. the price order and the restrictions that exist in the distribution of gasoline have formed an informal market, and if a person buys more gasoline than the quota of 1,500 tomans or 3,000 tomani needs to buy gasoline more expensive than the approved price. reza gholami , an expert on economic issues, if we make people participate in an issue, not only will they not resist price increases, but they will also help . plan to allocate gasoline quota to people instead of cars. it is a demagogic plan with the slogan of justice , which has a glimpse of people's monetary illusion, i.e., higher monetary income in the short term. narsi, an expert on economic issues, a person who does not have a car does not receive a subsidy at all. in addition to cars, this subsidy must be paid to individuals so that they can related to the government, such as paying for water and electricity , as a result, this money does not leave the government system and is not inflationary, fuel smuggling
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does not increase with this plan because it sells itself to a person who owns a car, reza pedemar, a member of the chamber's energy commission the commercialization of topics such as the allocation of gasoline to the national code has more aspects of advertising and elections than operationalization. now , it is important that a basket consisting of all energy carriers is determined for people and everyone takes from their basket according to their needs. with this work, the society goes towards the optimization of energy consumption. reza nawaz, the spokesperson the association of fuel stationers of the country has lost its use of gasoline quota allocation through fuel cards and many people are concerned about the queues of gasoline and the failure of smart fuel system card readers . by allocating gasoline to the national code, it is possible to use newer technologies such as it is provided with a bank card or any better method, and the quality of providing services to people at the stations also increases . yes, we saw the report together, mr. zamaniyan
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, mr. khademi, i have a few points. bringing up about the fact that it is not rational for us to subsidize everyone, it may cause inflation may there be pressure for the other goods that we are referring to the weak and oppressed class that we are referring to, what is your answer, see if it is going to be created like this, in most places, for example, public transportation and issues like this. it was brought up, basically, the attack and public transportation was an exception . i am talking about gasoline that people actually use for personal purposes. well, you see, the story is very simple. we say, why do we have inflation , why do we not have money, why the good things that you you say that it will never happen that we go to create employment no one has anything to do with that, you go so that we can create employment, build a factory , everything is fine, they are all in their place, now that they are , let's talk about gasoline, well , you can't deny the fact that now some of my opinions
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