it will be economical. narges meghazi, sed and sima news agency. yes, we saw the report together. if you are interested, stay with us until the end of this discussion. follow us on the news network. thank you. well, here in our studio, mr. sasan shah voyisi , secretary general of the chamber of commerce of iran, is present, and we will also have a connection with mr. izad khan , a member of the islamic council, who is in our birjand studio, a member of the mining industry commission of the islamic council, mr. seyed shamsan din hosseini, another member of the parliament. there are islamic councils that will add to jamoon because it is in the form of internet communication they are the special commission for the jump in production, and being the minister of economy and one of the main designers of the 44th plan and related laws , i worked a lot with them. let's go into more details

. mr. hassan khani, also a young economic researcher, will be added . hello and god bless all the guests of the program . before we start the discussion , let's review the naming of the year in the last 7, 8, 10 years and see what its content is, how related it is to our discussion

well, we have reviewed the names of the shawars of the year in the past few years. in the last 8 years, the slogans of the year entered the official literature of mr shavisi , please tell me that we are talking about the participation of the people, that we are saying that the people should participate in order for the production jump to happen, what exactly does it mean, how should the people achieve this participation ? thank you, in the name of god. and also , dear viewers, i congratulate the new year , the spring of the qur'an, the spring of nature, and i pray for obedience and worship. you mentioned the slogan of years and

years. it seems to me that it is very accurate . iran's economy is people-oriented. it is a state -run economy. there are 11 reasons that it is the subject of various debates in its own place. a historical record tells us that the essentials of iran's economy are oil and that it has provided the government with a powerful source of income. this has been formed in the lap of iran's economic system and insists on defining the approaches and effects of capital's function in different areas in order to distribute powerful financial resources and accordingly , the beneficial actors and capabilities for itself. it prioritizes and recognizes the needs whether this is right or wrong is one issue, whether it should continue is another issue. maybe before this

, it was necessary to define the needs of the national resources in order to make them work. development plans , whether after the revolution, construction plans , before the revolution , defined its function in a phrase on the heels of government resources, and by the way, this the approach destroys a large part of the available resources, most important of which are natural resources, human resources and natural resources that exist in a wandering form in the country. he has put a relationship and movement, whose approach is that it is insisted that the economy should be to be defined based on government functions and approaches. it has been mentioned time and time again that the views of hazrat agha, his fraudulent demands, and on the other hand , the actors of the public sector, whether it is the private sector, the cooperative sector , or the people who work in industry and small workshops , is that this is the scope of guidance, support, supervision

. turn to interventional approaches ? it seems to me that maybe if in 2019 we leave the production leap as the motto of the year , the packages will be behind us. we used different methods in the academic field, in the practical field, and in the operational field to realize it, but what was intended happened. it didn't happen. perhaps you mentioned that in the following years , economic names were again brought up with a production approach. this shows that perhaps there is a basic belief and capability regarding what this mutation is, how it has scope, what it is, what it looks like within the sector. he should have it. what should be looked at in outsourcing and inter-sector? who is the main agent and actor, at what level should this actor be defined, and finally , what is the relationship between the governance process and the main actors of the economy? perhaps this is the most important question that can be answered this year with the people's participation.

many of these ambiguities have been given. if we want to be a bit more precise and simple, if we want to express it now, for example, from the housewife at home. mr. and mrs. employees, mr. and mrs. workers, mr. and mrs. workers. if they are going to participate in the economy, where should this participation come from and in what form and with what quality? let's define each other and then place the role we want to give to the family economy in this process and in these trends. towards the creation of wealth and production. that this production has different components in its engineering , it starts from the production of knowledge and services and ends with the production of wealth . it defines a chain. we must determine each of these players, whether small players or large players, in which position in this

value chain. if this capability is defined , then we will reach the priorities. who defines the priorities, the political needs and necessities or the needs or necessities of making the economy more competitive. in order to contribute more to the geometry of the global economy , i think if these are answered correctly then the relationship between the institution, the knowledge structure, management and people can be better defined in this field . mandreh how the researcher. in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful, i congratulate you on the beginning of the new year, the spring of the qur'an, and i wish success for all

the honorable people of iran. you will see the strategic system that the leader of the revolution has in the field of economy since a few years ago , at least 12 years ago in this direction. same word the economy is a resistance. this resistance economy has aspects that the leaders try to highlight one of those aspects every year. the first important aspect is production . the economy should revolve around production, not on capital sales, not on oil sales, not on crude sales, not on drive. economy must be a productive economy. second, it should be endogenous and extroverted. we believe that our economy should have strong internal foundations, but it should act in interaction with the whole world. the third point is the discussion of justice . economic justice should prevail

. economic structures should establish justice. spread discrimination. we sometimes have structures that encourage discrimination. the fourth point of popularization is the popularization of the economy. in the school of the islamic revolution, the economy is neither government nor capitalism. it has a third aspect, which we call popular economy. this popular economy is a new word in the world, neither liberalism , nor socialism, nor communism, none of these forms the popular economy. what the islamic revolution says is the popular economy of a school. we do not believe in the monopoly of the government, nor do we believe in the monopoly of capitalism, we violate both of them , we say that people should have agency in the fifth aspect of the economy is also the discussion of knowledge

and knowledge. now this year, the leadership has pointed out and made their own statement about the popularization of the production economy , which they have been saying for years, for more than seven or eight years, they have been explicitly relying on production. ? that is, if we want our economy to be in order from poverty. first of all, we have to build the backbone of the economy on production , and secondly, this path is not possible except through popular economy. the economy has a formula, it has a model, it has a pattern, we have to go, we have to make the patterns according to the needs of the country, we don't have to go. we don't need to imitate the world

, the same banking model that england and america are experiencing. whether it is from the bank or bank deposits , people's savings are in the bank's custody or in the field of land, even though we are a vast country and have vast land resources. we have these in the prison of the government or in the prison of the big capitalists, and the general public, our farmers , our herdsmen, our entrepreneurs, small and large, cannot use these resources. let's use it a lot or have 5 thousand kilometers of coast, but these should be locked and we should not have anything called sea economy, while we are a country that is connected to the open seas. the first way you said, what are

the ways? the country is at the top of the general policies of the resistance economy and discussion of privatization, the leadership says that public ownership is not a reality now, people do not have a sense of ownership, even though we have mines seven times our population, people do not have a sense of ownership of mines, even though it is the sea. people have no sense of access to sea reserves. although the sources we have renewable and clean energy in the country, but mashallah, people do not have a sense of this ownership. what should be done for these points that you are referring to ? the parliament should make laws, the laws are not being implemented well , the laws of the government cooperated. we plan in this assembly. we were trying to liberate land for the benefit of pastoralists and ranchers. it was rejected. it was not approved. the intellectual approach

of the parliament should also be revised. the solution to inflation , the solution to the budget deficit, the solution to the energy imbalance, there is no other way than popularizing the economy. until the representative behind closed doors, they can manage the economy, this is false and it destroys our land. we must put the economy in the hands of the people . to make the people flourish in the economy, we must free the land, the production resources, the funds , it should not be in the custody of the bank , it should not be in the custody of the land affairs, it should not be in the custody of the failed government agencies , this should be available to the public, so let's go to mr. hossein harf. i am not finished now , i will come back to you later. yes, please be with us, mr. hosseini, what do you think? participation bring the people, what should be done in the meantime? basically, how

is this jump in production realized with the participation of the people? in the name of allah, the most merciful , the most merciful , i congratulate you and all the viewers on nowruz 1403. by the way, i want to focus on the discussion of general policies. 44 of the constitution, as well as the law of the executives , you are informed that the key to correcting the structure of iran's economy and making it in accordance with what the constitution has said , goes back to the general policies of article 44 of the constitution, which we once made this decision in the country. that should be from monopoly let's get out of the government and return to the same arrangements as mentioned in the constitution. after

announcing the general policies of article 44 of the constitution and approving its implementation law in the islamic council, we removed the bans on the participation of people from the non-governmental sector in the economic sector. but unfortunately, i have to say that the limitations and excuses remain on their own. in the 11th parliament, an appropriate action was taken, and that was that in this aspect, that is actually the way of participation. people, it has been opened, it has been paid, see, you must be waiting, based on the analysis of our business environment between 190 we have the 126th rank in the world, and again , with regret, we have to say that to start a business, it means people's participation, which means that people start expressing their economic activities, our rank is 178th, so i

can answer your question right here, if i want to give a clear answer . the 12th parliament, god willing, and the government should stand by the implementation of the law to facilitate the issuance of business licenses , stand by the implementation of the law, amend the articles of the law , amend articles 1 and 7 of the law, and implement the general policies . there are 44 constitutional laws. be closer. yes, look at what you say people's participation what does people's participation mean , do you think that, for example, people should express themselves in the way of production. there is no such thing as marching, which means that people from different walks of life can now invest. it is the introduction of investment production. it means that when you come to establish a company or a company that you are increasing your capital, you are equipped for increase

in production, but when someone who wants to bring my capital and use it, now that's the way it is. it doesn't matter if it is in the form of, for example, a joint-stock company or a cooperative company. all kinds of economic devices lataif al hail prevents him from participating in the economy , so how will the people's participation be formed? some people may think that we should give a call, say ionas, hurry up and participate in economic activities. when you were drunk, we had different plans with you. a person wants to come and start an economic activity. we don't give him permission. how does he want economic partnership to be formed? today, the supreme leader 's position is actually to raise the production jump, and at the same time, he said , "where is the bottleneck with the participation of the people in the issuing of permits that you are referring to?" it's going well, how many problems are there, where are the problems , the whole

situation has improved a lot compared to what it was before, at least i'm giving an example, now i can tell you. in the same way, the ministry of health and medicine , so i want to tell you something. look, when a slogan is raised, don't assume that we have to go back to the beginning of the line and start from zero. before, i had a meeting with the supreme leader, i

was also present there work was another, in fact, provision. in fact, we are talking about the presence of the people, i want to say again that we don't have so many resources to waste, we must have a proper financing system, now the production and infrastructure financing law has been approved in the 11th parliament, fortunately, there is a back and forth with the guardian council. it took place, the major part of iran was removed , there was a limited number of iranians left, we also removed that, i specifically want it. i would like to emphasize this point again, if we are looking for economic growth and a jump in production, we should look for an increase in investment. in order for investment to increase , on the one hand, a business environment must be provided . in general, the work of governance is actually to facilitate the issuance of business licenses and the business environment. now mr. hosseini's environment

, how many devices and names did you mention for issuing the licenses that you said? that have help the bottleneck of the 12th parliament or in this same 11th parliament, how will you follow up? you see, our mechanism in the islamic council is characteristic. one of the mechanisms that we follow is monitoring reports . so far, we have received two monitoring reports in the 11th parliament. we must submit the next monitoring report. we will now, some of you have to see from now on. note that in the past year, we had both the budget law and the program law. our report is now ready. now we have to see whether, god willing, according to the changes in the parliament, this opportunity will be found. we will do it or not, but in any case, our report is ready

, this is actually an opportunity, if available, we can discuss in more detail how many meetings we have been at your service so far. we grew during the years 1390 to 1400 our economy was low, less than half, about half a percent. our population growth has been above 1% , our per capita income has decreased, in 1401 and 1402, the investment situation has improved a bit , the economic growth situation has improved a bit, but i said this is at the level of a bud, so that this bud will become a sapling at least. the basic task that i mentioned should be followed, one is to continue to emphasize on facilitating the issuance of business councils. here, i expect the judiciary to provide more and better support. i personally believe that in many cases , some people who did not want to cooperate are behind the scenes.

some of the institutions that are in the judiciary , the establishment of the judiciary should help the islamic council and the next issue is the financing of infrastructure production, because when you refer to the economic activists, one of their issues is the low level of our funding, which this is also a good step. i want to emphasize this. finally, we should in the 12th parliament, rather than looking for the approval of new laws, the same laws that were approved in the 11th parliament and even the previous parliament of this law, remove the ban on production. basic knowledge of the housing jump law let's emphasize these things, god willing , they will be here . thank you. let's go to mr. hassan khani, mr. hassan khani , what do you think?

what actions should be taken by the parliament itself? in the name of allah, the merciful, the merciful , i offer my greetings to you, as well as to my dear audience, dear viewers, dear people of iran, and your honorable guests . accept the door of truth and god willing soon, we will be able to hear the news of the victory of the palestinian people at the world level. regarding the sayings of hazrat agha and the slogan of the year, i want to see now before i go to the points that my friends said, because i have some points about the sayings of mr. dr. hosseini and mr. eizdkhah. i would like to point out that the production leap has a series of preliminary requirements , the most important of which is the introduction of the production leap. it seems to me that the realization of paragraph eight of the general employment policies of 1990, paragraph seven of the general employment policies

emphasizes the issue that the coordination and stability of the country's monetary, financial, and commercial policies is what i want. i want to ask the point and the question that the audience of this year's slogan is the people or their governing bodies or the economic governance of the country, especially the state parliament. the judiciary and in fact the governing body of the country , i think the people have always played their role in these 45 years in our various fields in the war . in economy, when the leaders say that the presence of the people, the people are ready to do their duty , they should not be harassed, and this government does not do it. and they are the governing institutions, they are the governance that must be supported create for the presence of people. mr. dr. hosseini says that the discussion of investment or licenses is

a bit of a reduction in my opinion. the issue is not that we only create the license, if we actually create the license, people will attend. no, it is necessary for the presence of people, but it is not enough, it is not a sufficient condition. the most important requirement is the most important requirement before the licenses before now. investment people , i think the most important requirement is that basically the economic governance body of the country works harmoniously. in the 11th parliament and the 13th government , we have clearly seen some areas that are facing up, especially in politics. there were inconsistencies or there are interpretations or in fact there are issues between the ministry of economy and the central bank. these must be resolved . let's have, like the central bank and the ministry of economy, specifically discuss the commodity exchange, the exchange center, see what differences there were and what has not been resolved yet, an important part of these, if

we want people to enter the field of economy, one of the most important requirements is to fulfill paragraph seven of the general policies. it is important that, firstly , there is coordination between the decision-making bodies and the executive body, secondly persistence on policies, if a policy is announced by the government, even if it is wrong, this policy should not be punctured by other institutions, by the institutions that can act now , if the policy is implemented and the order is issued. there should be coordination for its implementation, of course, the defects should be fixed and in fact, there should be no problems in the implementation, not that the parliament and the government should fight over a unified policy . this is the most important requirement. thank you. another point is also the most important. i have to tell you that i will get back to them in the next part

mr. shahavisi wide. which of the explanations given by the honorable members of the parliament and our brother , which one do you think is the most important? article 44 : i have seen the efforts of other representatives to implement various laws for private production support . we are the highway of production when looking for we are a big vote of production, which means that some things should be taken out of the way, some of the requirements of the past should be put aside today . do something

each of our ministries when about. we talk about production, everyone talks about the ministry of agriculture and to some extent, for example, the ministry of communications, but the ministry of science also has a role, the ministry of guidance also has a role, the ministry of defense also has a role, the other ministry of home affairs , the ministry of energy also has a role, the ministry of oil has a role, but some have the role of driving, some have the role of coordinator, some have the role of supporter. that coordination is correct to point out in its place, but what do i mean, let's talk. let 's not reduce us to production alleys. we are looking for production centers. when we talk about production centers , you see, we are going above this , and we say, for example, why the relationship between a certain business and, for example, this discussion is done according to the permits, for example. it has not been done, this is a conclusion in itself, but we have to look at the mechanism and see if a certain government ministry does not give in to this process.

other devices. it is important for the public sector and other sectors, should they also monitor this ? what is certain today is that we are still in a retrogressive approach that insists on saying, "i recognize today that the priority is that, for example , government revenues should be for example , it can be obtained from taxes, and today i can find this tax from the identification of businesses, mainly the approach goes to the government employees of the businesses. in the end, it will affect the export bases. what is my opinion? if we look at it from above , we want to define a big way. for example, in tehran, like the imam ali highway , we are going to provide access, we are going to smooth it out, we are going to remove some roads, the highway is very busy , we want to. the production became crowded, the way

of production has created conditions that the sector. private chamber of commerce, chamber of cooperation , chambers are finding themselves on the path of the roads that are defined , the one who has to go slowly defines in his own place , so what is this main issue from your point of view? we need capital as the most important achille's heel of this competitive cycle . i don't want to say it is false , but we suggest that we are not looking for an economy based on capital. this conflict will arise if we cannot solve this problem. let's say that a person who is a great entrepreneur today is the cause of where he will be placed, and small businesses that are connected to this economically effective capacity feed from them and can make the platform bigger , where should they see themselves in the end. we are talking about the laws from the implementation of the policies of principle 44 to today approx