tonight we devoted to examining the qualifications and plans of the ministers proposed by the 14th government. in the studio , we are in the service of mr. mehrdad lahouti, a member of the parliament , and of course we agree with the general principles of the ministers proposed by the 14th government and mr. maitham zahorian, a member of the islamic council, and we are against the general principles of the ministers proposed by the 14th government. lahodi , i greet you. welcome, in the name of allah, the most merciful. thank you very much for the introduction and the topic that we mentioned , which is the subject of our discussion in tonight's special news talk , and of course the introduction of the guests.

follow the beginning of this conversation with us on the khabar network . thank you very much for being with us, as i mentioned in the introduction to the examination of the qualifications of the proposed ministers of the 14th government of the cabinet proposed by mr. p as the representative in favor of the general terms and mr. zahorian as the general opposed to the proposed ministers are present in our studio, mr. lahouti, your reasons for agreeing to what as the cabinet of the 14th government introduced to the islamic council, what's the matter ? well, i have another courtesy, so do you have an explanation ? our criteria in the parliament for checking merit and expertise

is experience, and the proceedings in the parliament are also open. dear people, we have an explanation. your highness also has an explanation. first of all, it is in the specialized commissions of the parliament. well, the specialized commissions of the parliament also mention that the obligation of expertise, experience, compliance of programs , ideas, proposals with the upper documents , the law, the program and the upper documents, well, the process of the commissions. well, last week, the change was actually completed. the issue of commitment, well, we don't get into much , i don't want to say that the parliament is indifferent to the issue of commitment, but you are asking for a minister that the president will introduce, first from the authorities of zisla.

monitoring devices, the necessary inquiry about it the minister is concerned about this, my servant and mr. zahorian are of the opinion that the inquiry was actually taken from the relevant minister. let's look at the dimensions of expertise and experience. well, these are the two criteria that we need to pay more attention to. expertise, for example, someone's field of study. if they want to make him the minister of economy, then his education should be relevant. you can't, for example, appoint someone as the minister of agriculture , whose education is in another field, so the expertise we say is from the perspective of that person's education, because you now agree with the generalities of the proposed ministers , they have the expertise factor. yes, yes, that means related to there are one or two people in the ministry of home affairs who have a proposal for a field of study . mostly, in fact, their field

of study is related to the relevant ministry. and this point is enough to implement the program and the documents you mentioned? that's why we said expertise and experience. we say experience about this . for example, someone who wants to be the minister of the relevant ministry should have the experience and practice of working at home. for example , if someone is supposed to be the minister of roads. well, he should have a position in the ministry of home affairs , he should not be a stranger to that ministry or, for example, the ministry economy is the same, or my ministry is the cabinet of mr. dr. medzikiano. i really see a complete cabinet from the point of view that the expertise and experience are respected . now, in the next part, god willing, i will explain that mr. jahorian, the reasons for the approval of mr. lahouti

observed commitment, expertise and experience and pointed out that the generals have these three factors. you disagree with the general reasons, what are the reasons for your disagreement, why? do you think that generals can't implement the program and those documents in a format? let me make a couple of introductions before entering into my main discussion. first of all , naturally, i disagree with mr the doctor does not agree with all the ministers , nor does the doctor probably agree with all the ministers . naturally, we are discussing whether the entire cabinet as a coherent whole can lead the country in the right direction. he should choose people according to his own taste and it is the right of the parliament to evaluate the ministry

candidates according to his own views. do you agree with mr. lahousi's ruler? in my opinion, what is important in the discussion is the full assessment of the capabilities of the entire cabinet. solving the problems of the country is the correct knowledge of the problems, the knowledge of the solutions and the ability to solve the problems that are based on those solutions that are naturally compatible with the principles of my revolution. ok, and people should be elected according to that idea of ​​governance . well, it is possible that there are people from different factions. we can see a diversity in the cabinet in terms of the political atmosphere. the current cabinet has this diversity in the cabinet, but below i think that an idea of ​​governance of these people is fundamentally questionable. now, in

my next discussions, i will explain in more detail that in my opinion, the cabinet of the powerful government comes out of the heart of a coherent cabinet, and if this cabinet. it will not happen to the place where a governance idea is formed based on political quotas or other quotas. obviously , my concern is that i think the cabinet should not become a joint-stock company of political parties, that is, believers in in the near future, a single voice may be heard from what we are introduced as people it will not be possible to have a unified governance behind it. i will now point out that finally, mr. dr. mezikian , what in the atmosphere of the parliament, in the atmosphere of my election , the main statements of their programs were based on the 7th plan. i will point out that some ministers are clearly former and their approach is against the principles that in the seventh program, what is mentioned as the type of interaction between the parliament and the government, in my opinion, correct and constructive interaction

does not mean blindly voting for the ministers. on the other hand, the members of parliament also to look at the title of their former colleague. in my opinion, this constructive interaction will be formed here , when we vote for those ministers who have the necessary competence and ability to solve the problems. from the executive point of view , it may lack capable people or even have a specialized view, but this specialized view is not based on the documents of the top missions of the ministry of home affairs, i.e. the 7th plan, for example , this precise minister has proposed a special approach. in his history, his positions have taken other positions naturally, these are here. for example , the constructive interaction of the parliament with the government is not to give a vote of confidence to the minister

. now, despite the fact that some people believe that all political tastes have come together and this is one of the few governments where this has happened, the point that mr. zaurian pointed out. so, the first criterion we have in common with mr. doctor is the commitment of expertise and experience , so i have to come to a common understanding that we have reached a common understanding. also, with another literature, the internal regulation of the parliament has come and assigned to us, this is what i am saying, my words are not theology, in an article 202 of the internal regulations of the parliament, which mr. lavoti , when you

win the elections during the election days, he didn't accompany them on his way, but because he was really different from all the political currents. what they said in their own debates is to do the same thing, i did the same thing first, from kamine, which is a combination of why mr. mezikian did this. you see, mrs. emami , there are parties in our country and in other countries of the world, people follow party programs

voting, we have many parties in our country. you are people. i was in another program. we were here for a friend. i told you about the same issue in the cabinet. if we want to define people correctly, people are in the form of these two. up to the political current of all people in the form of these two political currents. they can be placed in our country , the people, that is, now, mr. bizikian, from his own point of view , their personal point of view, they come to defend the people, in the opinion of mr. bizikian, they vote, but in other countries of the world, this is not the case . mr i will mention it later, so i will say this, that's enough , so the cabinet is now mr. dr. we also introduce our own cabinet based on our commitment, expertise, and experience as representatives of the people

. according to the constitution of our country , the president is directly elected by the people. we are also people, we are choosing, so therefore. today, according to the internal regulations, mr. president had two and a half hours to come and defend the generals of his cabinet, and two and a half hours. on the other hand, every year, the representatives have the opportunity to speak with 5 in favor and 5 against . keep it here. the point you mentioned is that the supporters believe that there is a new path in the election. different political tastes in the cabinet of the 14th government. first of

all, we had different tastes in my previous governments . i don't think it's a new phenomenon. now, according to you, the severity may be different, but my principle is the first government that really fulfilled its promise. by the way, when we talk about the removal of the party in our governance. by the way , that concept is the central idea for the president the government team is becoming more important, which means that it is going to fill the void of the party, not that we should say that because we don't have a party, let's put aside the idea of ​​ruling rome and just settle for some generalities that we put aside. let me give you an example, we have parties, but instead of this gap, in fact, the parties are the two political currents that are managing our country

. they don't, i mean, here it happens to be a question of the idea of ​​governance it becomes bolder, mr. doctor of medicine. well, in the election, you can clearly state that i specifically mention two documents as upper level documents, one is the seventh plan, which is the policies announced by the leadership , as i do not have a plan and substitute. no , i don't have a plan, check it out, no, no, let me correct one word of your words, no, you, no, you are saying that two people are saying this , they are talking about us, you are talking about me, mr. medicine, they also said, i have no plan, by the way, by the way, we should be happy. that is, if mr. medicine, mr. medicine cannot be the president when mr. president is elected the president is not going to separate the way now. for the next 5 years of the country, mr. dr. i am a member of the parliament, the next 5 years

will determine the direction of the country. i know about our past plans mr. dr. zorian. ms. emami's past plans were implemented at most 30%, the most optimistic scenario being 30%. the medical doctor came and said, sir , i want my life. i will stick to this program , i will stick to the law, the law of ms. emami's program there are so many strong laws. if we want to change a normal law in the parliament

, we can change it with a majority vote. through investment, what investment means, what

does it mean for us to achieve economic growth 8. 5. it is through investment, 10% of it is through productivity, what does it mean, mr. mezikian, today that 80% of our economy is state-owned , the government's portfolio has accepted a point from the ministers. mr. zahoorian and i's program, mr. zahoorian and i should go.

the seventh plan, let's move forward a bit , i said to each other, now one point that the seventh plan is not good at all, the strategic level, a number of ministers should state an intermediate level and the operational level of rome as the level that the plan itself asked of them , after all, the approach is based on that. to be evaluated, but based on this program itself, i will give a couple of examples, just why some of these dear ones who were introduced, basically, their approach and experiences in the records

they have are not only not compatible with the seventh program. or sometimes completely contradicting one of the examples let me explain the compatibility . let me explain. it was a little bit more. finally, we have to wait and listen. maybe you finally listened . there was something useful in our conversation. you see , one of the ministers, for example, i will give an example , mr. dr. zafarqandieh. as the minister of health , one of the important things that is part of the issues of our education and health system is the issue of increasing the capacity of education. it is medicine that was mentioned in the 7th program, or for example, in the general policies announced by our supreme leader, we have 2 clauses, which are among the serious issues of our health system, for example, the prohibition clause. the simultaneous employment of doctors in the public and private sector or the discussion of the equalization of tariffs in the public and private sectors , where a major part of the conflict of interests in our health system

occurs from the three cases that i mentioned, that is, on the one hand, we have a shortage of doctors, on the other hand, if the same trend continues, we will face a surplus of doctors in 1404 , while we currently

have 1 to 23 doctors per capita compared to the region, which is less than half of the average of our region. it should reach 2, it should reach 23. we say sir, no, it should be 1 , which means we should at least reach the average of your region citation i apologize for having interfered with your order in any case . these are the problems that we, the people of iran, should be covered by insurance. the document is our program. you are quoting that mr. zafarkandi, for example, in an interview , if mr. zafarkandi came to us, he stated that, sir

, i cannot implement this program law , i do not accept this program law at all, that is a discussion. it is a separate word that we should call you mr. zafarkandi for your performance and experience, which was mr. zafarkandi a year ago.

we must help the government and accompany them. these are really the challenges. after all, you are my teacher. you are now a member of the commission. i am an effective member of the economic commission. i am devoted to your excellency. now, the disagreements we have in the banks, sir, we have assigned duties in the program law. according to the minister of economy , this imbalance of 20% in the year, in fact, the banks should be resolved, the growth of liquidity, which is currently 25% , should reach a number of 138. we are talking to you right now.

now we have an imbalance in energy, we have 12,000 megawatts per day, we actually have energy , that is, according to this document, except for someone who came tomorrow and became the minister of energy, mr. aliabadi, said no, sir, we have to convince mr. aliabadi, let's convince him. that we are trusting him , we have to monitor him, mr. aliabadi , mr. narizi, for example, we gave a plan, he is always in front of this, every decision he makes is based on this, no , you should now, you should, energy imbalance, energy imbalance.

there have been 146 counterparties and mortgage facilities that many banks say, sir, pressure has come on us and the government

he has contributed a lot. the discussion of credit management is the main issue that many times in the seventh program mr. doctor says is the basis of the discussion. well, mr. hemmati said that some economists do not believe in credit management, and i agree with them, although i will implement it in practice because you the policy of the 7th plan , for example, when there is no such belief, the result is this graph, that we are only government companies in the petrochemical sector, and

we have more loans than all private companies. mr. hemti, if he does not have a commitment in his place , he has violated, that is a separate issue for you.

i was like, i don't want to go on a path of separation, i want to mr. zahorian, mr. lahouti, the same as the title of a document of yours in the authority of moqlaneh, with the interpretations that you mention now , what is your prediction of the vote of confidence of the representatives to the proposed ministers, how is the summary of the summary, now the ministers are defending themselves from the program. those who are right in front are speaking in agreement. the opposition is speaking, for example, look at the summaries made in the specialized commissions, the announcements made in the floor, my opinion is that the representatives will actually vote for the cabinet of dr. i will not let politics prevail in any way. from here

, our dear representatives, we should help to discuss the same commitment and expertise of mr. jahorian's experience. for a minute , i believe that if the basis is really the interests of the people , then there must be a number of ministers whose views are far away from the evaluation of the cabinet. both with the seventh program and with the path that was finally chosen in the country in the upstream documents. i think the parliament will probably vote against a few of the ministers, unless, by the way, i believe that the parliament should vote for all the ministers in a combination that, after all, really has many problems , both in terms of experience and in terms of the conflict of your interests. some of the ministers whose background was mainly in the chamber of commerce or in the medical system and these will not be able to represent the public interests of the people , i think some of the ministers in the parliament should be voted no confidence . who

said in tonight's conversation. as a special message, i am very grateful to you, mr. zahourian, and as always, i am grateful for your good company. good night and god bless you. in the name of god, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the world today.