tv [untitled] September 3, 2024 3:00pm-3:31pm IRST
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small-scale housing means houses with an area of less than 50 square meters. a few days ago, a news was published about the construction of 25 -meter high houses in albarjet province, an issue that caused both approval and opposition. proponents say that building small scale houses is a solution to reduce the cost of housing construction. on the other hand, the opponents of building houses with this area mention cultural issues. and they say that if we do the calculations , these houses are not as cheap as it seems. in today's economy table, the arguments of the supporters and the opponents were discussed we hear about small-scale houses, but our opportunity on channel 1 has ended. i invite you to watch the economy desk on news channel.
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you are a viewer of the economy desk , i invite you to see the report prepared regarding the topic of the program. we will be back with the guests of the economy desk program. according to official statistics, the number of housing transactions in 1402 reached the lowest level in the last 10 years, and now we see that the ability to buy housing has been taken away from most of the society. the high price of housing at a glance realistically, it is caused by the high cost of its production. therefore, economic or small terraced housing today is an inevitable requirement, not a choice. our hadi abbasi. the deputy housing
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minister of the ministry of roads and urban development not only does not agree with the construction of small-scale housing, but also opposes the construction of such residential units because the lack of suitability of the building with the needs of the family will leave extensive social damage. the position of the ministry of roads and urban development in the field of housing is in accordance with the principle 31 of the constitution, which is to have housing that fits the needs. they know the right of every iranian person and family. dr. bijan khatibi, an expert housing which one do you choose between not having a house and having a 25-meter house? the reality is that we have to accept that the current economic conditions have made small-scale housing a suitable option for young people to start their lives. so that they can hope in the coming years with the gradual improvement of economic conditions.
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they provide a bigger house for themselves. dr. saman wali nouri, urban economics researcher. the housing problem in our country, especially in the metropolis of tehran , is caused by the waste of land and housing into capital goods and has little relation to supply and demand, so that it can be helped to balance it through the construction of small-scale houses. another point is that if we also build houses by the proof of that is the existence of 45,000 empty houses in the 22nd district of tehran. yes, in fact, in the report , we saw the positive and negative opinions regarding the construction of small-scale housing. let me introduce the program to you . mohsen tabai, secretary general of the scientific association of urban economics
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of iran, we have other guests that i will introduce to you in due course . mr. arami, god bless you forever. what do you think about building small scale houses? especially now that these 25-meter houses have been discussed and the reason. in the name of allah, the most merciful, while thanking the program staff and expressing my respect to the respected expert. in short, in the humble opinion of a wrong social phenomenon and any theorizing and reasoning for a wrong social work, this will lead to social damages and problems that will not be compensated later . what is our understanding of housing? what is european going to america? how much future research did we do regarding this? small ones with generation development,
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with generation quantity, with generation quality and issues like that what is it we have often heard from friends who argue the economy. i am ready to discuss in detail here that this economic return, which has nothing , will have the opposite effect, it will lead to more expensive housing , and it will cause the stray costs of that cash that should be spent on productive things and useful productions on these small houses. the scale attracts to itself, and once again the anjem.
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dear colleagues of sada vasima and condolences to ayam, well , what is very important is that now the housing situation has become an emergency, that is, more than 11 million of our people either have bad housing or do not have housing, and maybe the statistics are more than these. now these statistics are it is a kind of approximate and limited statistics, so it seems that any solution that leads to people owning a house in any possible time will have a good effect on the market as well as on the social and cultural aspects of the people. widely and universally, we want to see whether the housing
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should be a few tens of meters or a few hundred meters and how people can buy a house and have maximum social welfare. actually, it is an idealistic discussion, what is important for us is that people get rid of rent as soon as possible , on the other hand, because the concentration of the country's population is large. there are cities and big cities, and most of the employment and economic activities are taking shape in big cities, centers and provinces . in fact , it is not possible at the moment, now you are saying the same 25 meters, which is not a problem, we are not talking about 25 meters at all, because i have brought it up in previous programs, it created a branch, it is not a matter of 25 meters, it is a matter of small housing, the scale of small housing the scale is proportional
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to the applicant's income and bank facilities and other support measures imposed by the government or municipalities you can assume that it is 50 meters, it will be 60 meters. we have to see the condition of the land, financing, and most importantly, the population density in the parts we want to build housing based on that. now, this housing can be 30, 40 meters, for example, 60 , 70 meters. tabatabi says that now people are talking about renting, but this construction is a small-scale housing, isn't it? regarding the issue, we agree with the respected expert that the index of effective access to housing is high . yes, we have problems in terms of quality in big cities. it's not that we want
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to settle people and families on a small scale, this is the path that other countries have followed. what do i mean? i present two examples. in japan, statistics show that there is a crisis of family formation. in japan, statistics show that there is a generation crisis. fundamentally, the original values of japan's history have been distorted. this is one side of the story. on the other hand, many experts give an example that this is the process that japan has followed the same path and builds small houses . japan is usually a place for sleep and relaxation, well , the problems are directly related to the issues you raised
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. yes , that's what i meant. in germany , i will serve you in 2011 in frankfurt, the first start of 25 to 30 houses. today , the main problem of social scientists in germany is the issue of population, the issue is to make people understand that marriage is good, see that marriage is good, it is a natural thing, basically, it cannot be taught. it has happened that our industrialized country, the industrialized country of germany, today 's concern is to let young people know that it is good to have children, and it is good to marry and build a home. it is good, basically, the background of life
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has a direct relationship with the behaviors and lifestyle, how much do we want to provide, what kind of lifestyle can we expect , how can we imagine the conditions as an emergency, say that it is not possible in our country, we can't, we don't have it, and such things and it is very wrong to take the answer to emergency situations and to give such superficial and fleeting and irreparable answers. less, better life can be easily compensated now in the 1970s, the same principles were raised, and what was the answer ? the same reasoning and the same perception are still available in urban planning, we don't have land , infrastructure costs are expensive, and things like that, so what is the answer ?
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they are talking about the construction of very small units . last year, they said in tehran, for example, they say that this issue is not related to sales , it is a problem of people's lives. iran is a trick, and we see that these sizes are being talked about it is not really suitable for the needs of the family, then they say that between not having a home and having
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i mean, right now in our contexts , isn't there a problem like this, a man named mr. khashayar baghapour, who was in your video at the beginning of the program, although sometimes they say this issue so that it will be discussed in the domestic and foreign media, but what are the consequences for us? the loved ones are ready for themselves or their children to live in such houses . i don't know the effect of this type of living on the reduction of the size of the family and the elimination of divorce. are these areas suitable for a single house is even enough, really. you want to keep the housewives in so many houses with so many tablets, who
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can support the rights of these housewives, the volume of construction of these units is not small, that is, if you remove the price of land , because in your opinion, our housing is national, removing the price is actually this. houses are more expensive compared to their counterparts because you want to go to the height and then many parts of my facilities are shared whether for 25 meters, 50 meters or 100 meters. it happened to cause it is possible that the cost of the capital invested will be absorbed into the housing, and that the capitalization of the housing is what we are concerned about.
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in fact, it is said that the construction of small-scale housing is not the solution to the problems in the housing sector , and now what was brought up in the social and cultural aspect, especially the economic aspect, they also say that now they have heard their friends say that it causes the price to increase. very prominently , he studied the experiences of the municipalities of the big cities of the world and exchanged with each other
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periodically in the member countries. the capital of the country was mainly held, the mayor of tokyo said to me, i want to solve the housing problem of our youth i came and used the 18-meter units, that is , the one that is still in the tabsili plan of the city of tehran , that is, about 17 and a half meters per person, for the newly arrived japan , it had considered about 18 meters and above for 2 people, and to discuss he had followed easy marriage in the form of a plan that was very successful, so it is workable. my experience was very successful. perhaps one of the countries that has been able to progress economically in the world at least in the last one or two decades is japan, so it cannot be said that it is an assumption. let's say, small-scale housing in the world does not answer well, by the way, a lot
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you have answered well, japan is one of the countries, the rest of the countries should be done one by one. let's discuss how many countries have responded well, including france, germany, and even sweden, and many other countries. now , this development of goods or these cultural and commercial societies, or in a way it can be said that cultural, social and commercial societies , is meeting most of the welfare needs of the citizens of big cities , that is, they go there and shop, even if he doesn't want to shop, he visits, and
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he enjoys playing equipment, cinema, various entertainment, healthy food, and last but not least, sufficient living conditions in that metropolis, and this shows that we should accept it in any way, as the president emphasized that we should not. he lied to the people about the construction of my house. people should know the facts. if we want to talk about ideals, now people won't buy new houses. let's keep saying that we should consider a 200-meter plot of land. housing well, if the government was successful in building housing until now, we have not had such a shortage of housing, so it shows that the government should be open to some extent when it comes to building housing in different dimensions. or now, the small scale that you are talking about, to what extent can the market be freed from this inflammation? is the price the problem or the solution to lower the housing price? it
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means that it really solves what is the problem in the middle . it is now a natural thing. if there is a lot of supply, when the supply is more than the demand, the housing price will go down, which no one can deny is a very economic rule there is also a simple beginner, is there a housing supply? or like many young people who could not get married for any reason, not just from the economic aspect, but from the social, family aspect and issues like that. it is not the case that only the construction of small-scale housing promotes corruption in the society . there is no such thing. corruption can be promoted by many other indicators. we should not
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focus on the small-scale housing, but only focus on the social aspect or the development of corruption and ignore it. from the small , limited families, it can be said that there are single, two, or three -person families who are satisfied with becoming a family. tenancy and from sharia. the long distance from home to his workplace is saved. now let's study the new cities and we will see that many of the population living in the new cities are employed in the big cities, their jobs are in the centers of the cities, in the centers of the provinces, and the most important thing is that we have to accept that satellite cities are all it can be said from the new cities and other satellite cities that these are sufficient infrastructures and services.
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there is culture in japan, so what is this? it means that a human being, regardless of human values, is exactly what japan is today, then we have its roots in this. the suggestion of 18 meters that you said we should find . regarding the per capita, i will present some per capita in the form of a scale, in fact, comparing it with different places. the average per capita residential infrastructure in our country was announced as 27 and a half meters. 27 and a half meters in america, 77 meters in canada, 72 meters, denmark , 54 meters, new york, 49 meters, italy, 42 meters
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, let's go to places like seoul, 30 meters, which means it is higher than us . each person was 44 meters, we were 27 meters, while their country is less than one sixth of our area, that is one the density is better than ours. it is one-sixth of the area of our country. germany per capita is 40 meters less than a quarter of our area. france is about 38 meters less than a third of our area . i don't really know this number per capita in tehran. the thing that is recorded in the great passions of urban planning architecture, what is the solution for the cities above now ? for example, you say that the price of housing is sorry, now we are not talking about
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per capita. we are not nine heads per person per inhabitant per capita change, not accommodation, it is suggested that there are some things to say, well, this has nothing to do with the above documents. the second thing is that the price of housing should be discussed in detail. that is, 5 swears that the land alone is 70% of the cost of housing. now , less and more places, so our basic problem is not the materials, wages, location factor and permits
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, our main problem is the land. until now, we have occupied less than 1% of the country in the cities, villages, roads and factories, everything that is human in our country. am. statistics say that about 15% of our country has the ability to load for urban development. therefore, we have left a huge amount of susceptible land that can be loaded, and today the index of effective access to housing has reached over a century. i mean, you say now. the solution is, as i said, 70% of the housing price, which i said, the solution to these discussions is not to say that we should reduce the size of the houses, increase the height , increase the density , increase the density. let's drown and make the situation more complicated and worse . this solution works in the short term. it is a supply solution disciplined and rational land in the territorial area, we can
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use it properly. this is long-term. yes, the short -term is that we revise the laws of privacy and boundaries to some extent. in my opinion , the short-term solution is what was mentioned in the 7th development law, article 50, well pointed out. said that two tenths of percent or 300,000 hectares should be added to the country's residential lands . a settlement is a short-term solution, and to a large extent it can compensate for this inflammation and the compression of the agglomeration that caused us to fail before, and the solution is definitely not that we become a let's go on the path that the past felt was wrong , and now those friends who are concerned about lifestyle are saying that it is also wrong. you even say
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we must go to new cities, let's say we create land or change its use, then we spend a lot of money, let's say we move facilities. let's install water, electricity and gas , there is no need for these at all, that is, within the worn-out structures, by renovating the worn-out structures, this capacity can easily be realized, anyway, to be able to house this first and second part, if we see it in the discussion of construction, sometimes it is possible. let there be speculation, the money will be sent to the coin market and i don't know if it will be the width, cars and other issues like that, it will be a forgiveness, it will go back to the amendment of the executive guidelines for the construction of housing by the builders and builders and issues like that which these are when they read. get paid, this advance payment should be after the license and that's it until the amendments another one that will make any kind of capital stay in the hands of builders even for a moment and
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quickly turn into housing construction when our financial resources reach the hands of mass builders or builders. this is the second part. thirdly, in the discussion of article 80 of the sixth plan of my servant jimesh, the emphasis is on the construction of housing and the provision of housing for the needy, that is, it is mentioned in this section that i have carefully studied the above documents . the construction of housing , whether it is small, medium, or large scale housing , is especially applicable and operationalized another issue is the government's involvement . in order to be able to solve the small-scale housing problem and solve the housing problem in general, it is better to follow the discussion of education and supervision instead of directly entering this field. this
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activity. i believe that municipalities can provide housing more than any other organization in terms of direct knowledge of people's well-being, people's facilities and people's requirements, and they work with the housing problem through cooperatives and ngos that work with them directly and indirectly. so, my proposal is that as soon as possible , small-scale housing in the big cities and centers of the province big cities mean big cities, whatever. faster
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