in the way of private sector investment , why can't this investment be developed and be a solution to fix the name.

the case where we introduced at least a few of the power plants in the same way to sell to the industry to justify their electricity economy. accept and give a loan to the national development fund. it is correct to say that since 1997, inver has been given a loan by the national development fund because the investment projects were not satisfied. in order to finally increase the rate, this increase in the exchange rate has a great impact on the investment of the return on investment of our power plants. this cannot be hidden , that is why the friends of dose fund cooperated don't and banks.

whose investment is not justified, through several projects, whose consideration and discussion was the sales route. where a series of general conversations were said, i said let's look for a solution. let me say just one sentence

, when i say that the private sector will be suppressed , it is also in mr. esfanani's orders, why mr. esfanani is counting that 15 steam units have entered the circuit and each boiler unit consumes 250 million cubic meters of fuel per year. yes, mr. esfanani, these units who invested, the public sector invested or the non-governmental sector, we are proud to say that this is the private sector the contract was concluded, we still could not get the money. look, when they say that the private sector is ignored and suppressed, that's what it means. look, i said the facts. there are many facts at your service

, let's just look at the results of the policies of the last 10 years, the result of all the actions, which has led to the fact that today we are facing an average imbalance of 18,000 megawatts. he doesn't have investment, which means he can't invest , he's not allowed, he doesn't have the money, so the private sector has to come, the private sector is suppressed, so what should we do? kurds, i promise you that if the current behavior of the government and the current behavior of the ministry of energy continues , in 1414 you will have at least one-third of the country's consumption and imbalance, at least the imbalance will reach 37-40 thousand megawatts. puts it's possible that

social crises will start, labor crises will start, every day you don't take action, it's too late. we have to reconcile the private sector. we have one word: the electricity economy is inefficient. all our government friends contribute to this . mr. spanish engineer, ask yourself. you can confirm. economics of electricity for the private sector inefficient, sir, the electricity economy must be efficient , there is no other way, if the question is whether the electricity imbalance can be solved, i say yes , the answer is yes, imbalance. electricity, and despite the fact that it will be created in the long term in a period of at least 10 years, in an intermediate period of 5 to 7 years, 5 years, it will be solved, the resources needed are about 20 billion dollars, we have the resources needed, this is 20 billion dollars, i believe. at least half of this

money, that is, about 10 billion dollars, can be sold from the electricity sales place that has the capacity today to industries and to current customers. it will be sold to subscribers with high consumption patterns. we can bring these resources and finance at least 10 billion dollars in 5 years. but what is the problem ? the problem is that we have an ability. its task is to solve the electricity imbalance . this is me suppressing the private sector at a price of 120 tomans per kilowatt hour and selling it at an average of 1200 tomans. if it is not called mediation, what is it called ? if tavanir's mediation is removed , the government's mediation is removed. i believe that at least 75 to 80 percent of this money can be used in production and at least half of the money.

if the need for financing is needed, then my fund will come easily and give me explanations. i would like an answer from me in general that we do not have any differences with the orders of mr. taghiza regarding the cross-selling. well, mr. mades said 92, i am right. the 92 contract was closed, but 92 was not implemented. it didn't happen. we spent 3 years almost solving the contract problem with the gentlemen. for 3 to 4 years, between the government agencies and the contract, it started from 1995, when we solved that problem , what was the problem? investors used to deliver fuel , but this is still not implemented very little of it has been implemented, but in the understanding that was made with the program organization and the ministry of petroleum, in mr. maztaghizadeh's project, almost a small part of it

has been implemented, a significant part of it, from note 14, during the last year and 2019 99 140 1400. we made a payment , which is not significant, i agree that it is a small part , but it was not like this, it did not work . the main problem is that it should be done with the delivery of fuel saved by the ministry of petroleum and the approval of the program organization . mr. joy took the fuel from the ministry of oil, the ministry of oil approved it, there is a problem it was an interpretation of the contract law that was resolved last year. mr. mandaz taqqizadeh knows better . last year, this interpretation was done by the presidential planning and legal organization. now it is ready for the organization to announce the plan, and gentlemen , they will receive fuel remittances from the ministry of oil, god

willing. now i look at it like this, the point is that after all, every economic product has a price. it must have , after all, the price you invest , the product will be produced, it must have a return on investment, the same is the case with electricity. this is how it was, i said, the disharmony happened due to the macroeconomic problems of the country in these years, when the price of electricity remained higher than the rest of the goods, well, this could not be hidden, which is why two laws were finally approved in the parliament, which set a minimum amount of industry at the real price. more electricity money.

with my credit , you defaulted on a loan from the national development fund and you are in debt, and today you are rightfully protesting that electricity. this is that the difference between the obligation price and the guarantee is that it loads this debt on the electricity industry and drives it where it you made an investment and you have no guarantee from the buying side, which is not a problem at all. you provide financing to whomever you want to sell to the industry. for example, what would you do if people asked you? i'm not telling you what tawanir is doing today. how much does he buy from me and how much does he sell

? regarding the 120 tomans of electricity he buys from me, mr. engineer, this discussion i'm talking about is 67 electricity of the country. it's not a matter of one percent or two. it costs an average of 120 tomans per kilowatt hour hey, mr. copper, our discussion is that the production share should return to itself, this product is like any other product, we have no differences in this story, so what do you actually find a solution for? boden and mr. eng. taghizadeh, who are members of the production union, which is the characteristic of the price discussion, is a secondary discussion, the primary discussion is the governance of the company's own industry. mr. manes esfanani is also a representative from there. well, this

is a company that produces burqas. by the way, maybe you guys will find the same problems with tawanir later. let them do it, because they are in fact representatives of government power plants, well, private power plants have specific contents, and we don't want to get into the basic statistics and such , or for example the issue of temperature and such, which made the problem a little more acute this year, this is just a so-called term. the hot onion is our discussion, the main issue is that there will be no change in the overall number of unbalance, because of the delay and i don't know, the high temperature and these things and the signal of not investing in the electricity industry are not the same thing . see today, dear people, that this imbalance is in one direction. that they could not use a cooling device , but this signal has been given to the government since 1992 and in my opinion, this is the same issue here. commercial and see examples. now the development fund is discussed. the ministry of energy once

did not introduce power plant projects to the development fund. sell ​​electricity to the construction industry. now , there have been various debates about whether electricity is a public service or a commercial product. a producer works hard like any other industry we saw that in difficult conditions, high air temperature, in very complicated technical conditions, despite the problems caused by the embargo, despite the fact that mahdata is doing this production , on the other hand, there are different groups of consumers who can buy this product based on its economic value. don't worry, it's just a matter of words. in our country, this is a commercial business.

the solutions for the development of electricity production in the country are looking at renewable energy, mr. hamid reza salehi , a renewable electricity expert , they are in fact in touch with us before we talk to them, we will see a report, we will come back and we will be at the service of mr. salehi. power imbalance is an opportunity to enter renewables. nearly 1970 megawatts, the deficit is almost something like the electricity of almost one country. our neighbor was supposed

to have reached 5,000 mw by the end of the 5th and 6th plans , and we were supposed to add 5,000 megawatts in the 5th development plan. the production capacity of this sector has now reached 1300 megawatts, which means that with the completion of the implementation of the sixth plan , we have not even reached half of the goals set for creating capacity in renewable energy. but what is the reason for this slow progress? the most important obstacle for the development of renewable energies is that the contract concluded by satba has not been properly realized, and now according to the 7th plan , the development of renewable power plants will be increased to 10,000 megawatts. as i mentioned before the report to you , we are in contact with mr. salehi, an expert in renewable electricity, and we want

to talk to him about this . it has a good effect and a suitable capacity for the development of renewable electricity, especially in the field of power plants how much electricity is being produced in a renewable way and what capacity is there for production in the name of god ? we have good sunny conditions in the country , and with the first , a high potential in renewable energy has now been identified , about 90,000 megawatts, which is a very large number, but we have 1,240 megawatts of generation capacity to date. we can say about 7% of the total electricity production today

it is equippable, but the conditions are really good, but the investment has not been taken seriously by the government of the country and by the rest of the bondholders, because we had cheap fossil fuels, but in this discussion that has come up, it is really a good opportunity. that we can, in this situation , compensate for an important part of this disparity through the introduction of experimental power plants into the power grid.

electricity, anyway, we have electricity bills, we attract income so that we can have renewable electricity buy, but if we want to take bigger steps and pay attention to megawatts and, for example, the same 4500 megawatts project that was supposed to come into operation this year in june, we are looking at the finance and financing of these projects, which were supposed to be the national development fund. let him come forward and finance , he has encountered problems, such as the fact that the national credit fund of the ministry of energy does not accept the fact that he wants to finance a contract in which the ministry of energy is on one side, and he claims that if the government comes to finance from the place where oil is sold. i am willing to finance this project or one another party other than the ministry of energy should be the electricity buyer, for example industry, if

we do this, which we are doing now , we will send it to the economic council through the amendment we want. we can fix the economic problem so that the 4,500 megawatts and the others who signed the 12th article of the contract with the ministry of energy will have the possibility to go and sell their electricity in the green market if the ministry of energy does not pay them on time for a year. or sell to the industry, if this happens, god willing, the fund has announced that it will provide the necessary support for financing, of course for now the answer to the problems of our department from the officials of the energy organization. we repeatedly invited them to attend the program, but they refused . we thank you too, mr. salehi . we say goodbye to you, mr. ghaforifar . what are your solutions so that we can develop in the sector of renewable electricity production and make progress in this sector? yes. i also thank salehi for his explanation

. let's see that the reality is that the renewable sector has a set of cases, the significant part of which is similar to thermal and fossil power plants, and it goes back to the economic system, buying and selling, and economic interaction in there are projects in which various things have been mentioned in this regard, like the same thing that the engineers said now, that the power plants can supply electricity directly to the industries. when this is actually the energy that we can use during the day when we don't have radiation. we have problems in the private sector, for example, the access factor is finally 30%, so now the technical issues of this industry are also added, in addition to the

economic issues, including the need for so-called storage. energy is the discussion of regional energy exchanges, similar to renewable projects, projects that we have internal experience in small dimensions, in the capacity, for example , up to 10 megawatts from domestic capacities up to the capacity of 10 megawatts, a bit more. we don't have the experience of this at the moment, but our private sector is definitely very capable in order to gain this experience . in my opinion, the friends pursuing renewable projects still have some confidence that they will supply this electricity at a rate that exceeds. they can sell the market price to the ministry of energy, and in my opinion , this will be the same problem we have in the power plant today we are facing heat. one day, our friend said 1 to 6 or whatever the interpretation was, the ministry of energy

bought electricity from power plants at a higher price than the price that the general consumers sold it to. it happened in the market, this balance was messed up, so i think the main solution. development of renewable energy there is also a general point here that we are trying hard to reinvent the wheel. our neighboring countries are developing countries. they are oil countries. we have different methods for optimal mining. from much weaker networks than ours, how can we reach a stable network today, which we unfortunately have to import. the country that was the exporter had a positive trade balance, so

there is a quick way to go, very briefly. and based on this, the economic efficiency of renewable electricity is determined, the possibility of interaction and direct trade and even future contracts. we are talking now that 925 contracts have been concluded with the ministry of energy , we have not received the money yet, but in the energy exchange, we have the possibility that for the peak of the year, we have to let's sell electricity and use the income to develop the power plant, mr esfanani, our opportunity is coming to an end. i would like to mention one thing, mr. mandes ghafouri said that the ministry of energy has not introduced to the fund almost as long as i have been there, this has never happened, that is , we have always introduced , we were on the side of accepting investors, that the fund did not cooperate with us or was not interested for a period of time. that is another matter , now mr. taghizadeh is also present. it is not for the purpose of introducing any investment, which we have not introduced several times, but now in recent years , if he gives a technical response time in this regard, i do not want

to interrupt his order, but no, i said maybe. let's emphasize whether it has not been implemented or not introduced. no, no, it was stopped at all. now , i don't want to name my friends. at least , no, the issue is not in the thermal issue. the issue is in the economic plan. that is, the economic plan was there where the project was centralized. he should have received it either from the private sector or from the public sector, and as the representative of the ministry of energy in the so-called pro project development fund, we had different meetings. i have a point. the steam part of combined cycle power plants is facing mutual sale and 2000. we have obtained a license for the steam sector of government power plants from the honorable economic council. this has the guarantee of the economic council and the government, which means that the concern that mr. taghizadeh is going on with

has been resolved year after year. this is that in these years, we have gone in this direction, we have the same 35,000 megawatts, which at the beginning of the government said, we have removed one thousand megawatts. we have almost covered 200 megawatts, which we are close to that program, but 1000 megawatts of renewables and 100 megawatts that were supposed to be managed. after all, we couldn't do much, mr. taghizadeh. i have a few minutes to summarize . please remember this sentence of mine, until the government means the ministry of energy, which means you can stop

being an intermediary in the electricity economy. there is no solution to the problem of lack of balance, sleep and fantasy, a sweet dream will never happen and unfortunately , our friends have not yet reached this point . what should we do next? the first thing we should do is look. i said that the private sector is stuck, the private sector is not ready to make new investments and there is no other solution. the first thing to do is to win the trust of the investors . they don't have any trust at the moment. yes, their current problems must be solved. two, the electricity economy should be efficient. next , their private ownership should be recognized. i can have the right to sell my goods to anyone i want, sell them at an economic price. 3. only the supply and demand mechanism should prevail , no duty mechanism should prevail. let me say one more thing.

let's be transparent with the people and be honest about everything for next year's courier let's say that if we go ahead with this order next year, we will expect 25,000 megawatts. let's be honest . we should not blame the people. let's not say that people consume too much. the average per capita consumption of iranian people is 122 kilowatt hours per year. the world's 199. kilowatt hours in europe is 2120 kilowatt hours. they use less electricity, but unfortunately, we have a habit of blaming the people. yes, i am grateful to the guests of the program who appeared on the program . i wanted to say this. now, we should not know . our time is over. dear viewers. that until

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