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non-agreement on dastmoz 43. in my opinion, that's all. very good. mr. maitham zahorian, a member of the islamic council and a member of the economic commission, is also with us . mr. zahorian. greetings to you. peace be upon you. peace be upon you . may god's mercy and blessings be upon you. i am at your service, dear viewers and guests of your program. i am at your service. thank you , mr. zahorian, we are talking about the salary increase anyway. we will talk with the guests about the salary of the workers based on the increase in inflation or the inflation rate. first of all, you tell us how far this issue is being implemented and how far we are from it . you also had an amendment to article 41 which should be let it be done in the parliament , give a hint about it, i am your presence. basically, since 2016, especially after 2016, we have a problem in the service law
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of our country, which is based on the rights of government employees, the same as the labor law, and the salary increase is not for one year in the service law. country and for one year, the labor law was lower than the inflation rate, that is, for example , i calculated the labor law in 1402, approximately from 1997 to 1402, the purchasing power of a person who receives the minimum wages of the labor law has decreased, this percentage has decreased in the categories there are more because we usually increase the minimum more than other categories, that is if you want to calculate this rate now, then this has basically led to a series of disturbances in our labor and employer system, lack of labor force. in many areas
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, especially in the hard industry and industrial job creation, when you go, you see many industries suffering from a shortage of workers. the deputy minister of labor used an expression that we have jobs but no workers . well, this is a wrong way of thinking. it is not the lack of workers, the problem is that the minimum wage rate has been suppressed so much that in many places at work going is basically an economic justification. yes, finally. a society that has already experienced a certain level of rights will lose them. we are not talking about salary increases now, it is a question of salary stabilization, that is , money in the economic system is based on the value and purchasing power it gives to the individual. we are talking about the same. the problem is that we gave the same salary to our workers as we had last year. in the following years , we will give them the exact same salary, just like the average of the goods and the average. article 41 of the labor law
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had an ambiguity that the title mentioned there about the ratio of salary increase with inflation is that with considering the inflation rate, workers' salaries should also increase . well, unfortunately, the interpretation that could be made from this is with regard to the inflation rate, because it is not emphasized, at least the rate of inflation or the rate of inflation, friends say. last year, the annual inflation was 45. according to the report of the center for statistics and salary increase, it was 22 on average. well, the question is, what kind of attention is there? this title according to
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the rate of inflation should become at least the rate of inflation that obligates the supreme labor council to include the inflation rate in the increase that is attributed to the supreme labor council , in a way to stabilize the workers' rights . it will take a few years for this decrease to be compensated, which means that we have had a decrease of nearly 40% in the last seven or eight years. in the purchasing power of the workers , we must apply this 40% in a period of 4-5 years. gradually, in addition to inflation, this number will be taken into account so that we can again, god willing our workers are at least 6. this issue is proportional to the inflation rate or the same inflation number in this new discussion, whether it is included or not, it should be proportional to. see the main argument that came to
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the discussion of increasing less. the workers are from the inflation rate, so the increase in the number of workers may cause inflation. well, this argument is fundamentally wrong . i mean, the question is why inflation ? why do we say that we should keep the inflation rate low? well, the problem is that inflation affects people's purchasing power. it has a negative effect, otherwise inflation, which is not inherently bad, then we came and kept the people's salaries low, and we kept the purchasing power low. until the inflation goes down and this will kill us. well , it is one of those serious debates that some experts point to, that the increase in salaries will increase inflation anyway. basically, i say inflation , why give because it reduces purchasing power , then we brought down purchasing power. to control the inflation, this itself
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puts us in a vicious cycle. it is implicit to take into account the fact that when we talk about increasing the wages of workers and employees, we have this issue because we are employees. whose salaries have increased lower than the inflation rate in recent years it is mainly applied to the lower classes, it goes to the real consumer demand, that is, less to the false demand and capital demand, in the dollar and gold market, it does not go, it goes mainly to the real demand, so the increase in the total demand in the economy causes economic prosperity, that is, the empty capacity of the factories. it activates the need for goods , increases production, thus employment has a positive effect on inflation and reduces inflation by stimulating the supply side. i think the arguments about its effect on inflation are not very accurate. i mentioned it in the program of the march series last year various studies also show that the increase
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in the rate of salary is not significant on the increase in the inflation rate , as it has a positive effect on people's livelihood . very well, madam. one is bargaining, the other is determining the formula, the other is using the opinion of economic experts, that is, a consultative team determines the client's committee, and in some cases, the central government directly determines the salary, but the bargaining structure is the right way, so to speak. it exists in the world, but
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in countries that have really strong labor unions, see now only in article 167 of our labor law. after the labor union of the islamic labor council, the right to vote in the case of mr. dr. taji, who are more susceptible, we have various types of so-called labor unions, which can also mean that they should be present in the supreme labor council and have the right to vote. it is creating a deviation in the determination of wages and the groups are not progressing. i don't know the reason. now, maybe the legal class, maybe. considering that at the time when the law was drafted, there was only one labor organization, the islamic labor council, but in the sixth chapter
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of the labor law, we have 3 legal organizations. workers' union of the islamic republic of iran, assembly of representatives of the workers of the islamic republic of iran and supreme councils of islamic work of the country, we have 3 organizations , but when the legislator wrote the law and it continued, there was an organization of trade union activity after the revolution, other organizations were also created according to the chapter 6th of the labor law and practically, considering that in the supreme labor council, only the names of the councils are three labor representatives. of the three organizations, only one organization and the other labor representatives do not have the right to vote, that is, there are two other organizations without the right to vote. the social council of the islamic council, greetings to you
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, greetings, greetings, i would like to extend my greetings to mr. marder and all dear viewers and all those who watch and listen to the good program. yes, there are some things that are being discussed by our friends here, mr. tajik, a labor representative in the supreme labor council, and ms. azizkhani , an expert at the majlis research center. anyway, labor representatives in different councils do not have the right to vote. is there an update on this law or what it will be like for the workers' representatives? yes, sir, you see, in any case
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, the workers' representatives have a disagreement on the issue, which is the last explanation that was given. see, there should be a consensus in the labor discussions, but because the workers are in the so-called al-haq shura. they don't have votes , they have the right to vote, but look, the current debate is that the composition of this delegation or the supreme council is actually against you. workers, for example, 3 representatives of the government, 3 representatives of the employer, 3 representatives of the workers, well, these 3 representatives of the workers, now it's just a question of who to introduce which organization here. some people say that here, in my opinion , which organization is not a priority, this is the next discussion, but the important thing is that the government itself is a big kafma. give 800 workers in the form of corporate forces. madogh says that my running costs should not be increased because he has expenses. poji is doing
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his running costs not to be increased . what is he doing? the way he talks, in fact, he is from dib kargarai the country is taking a stand, which means it is not following the real position , that's why we are now aware of the benefits and problems of kaphama people all over the country apart from mez, but there is no reason that in our country now in the world, the finished price of goods is high, for example, above 12, 13, but in our country, it does not even reach 5% , which means that we are still offering the products that we have today to the basic standards of the world, because this price has become common. their tables are getting smaller. their lives have been destroyed they spend on work and production and equality, but in reality
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, as we say, mazandani, when the wage distribution is done, he says, sir, where were you, when were you, after all, i have other problems , i have to solve other problems first, until the end of mr. babaei 's work in the opinion that, anyway, an increase in hand based on inflation can cause the employer to retrench, if this happens, see if you see it. there is a possibility, but look at the percentage. today, we finally have the supply and demand of power in our country. we, the members of the parliament, enter the partnership , enter the service of the economic banks, and leave the bank. we ask about the economy. the first problem is, he says, "i don't have enough skilled manpower. how can he say that there is nothing there?" he says that if you increase the wages, then he says , "for example, they will adjust my workers. this is where the problem comes from. who says that i have too much manpower? this is an excuse . see, yes." maybe this happened to a company somewhere in the country. we cannot guarantee that it happened anywhere
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. we have 70,000, for example, 60,000 to 250,000 companies in the country. let's multiply by 250, for example , we have more than at least 30,000 workers and if they bring that force to you, whether the salary increases or decreases, i will force them. who said they are doing this? these are the government's excuses. according to the inflation sir, the government should have a supply and increase the inflation by 2%. there is no problem . you believe that
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salary increases should be based on inflation, inflation is proportional to inflation, no, now the law says that it is proportional to inflation, we say based on inflation, which means that inflation should be done, but you are a worker here in this country who wants to pay 34 and, for example, increase economy from the place of equality from this worker of this force what kind of work does he want to have in terms of motivation , work for 8 years, after 8 years, go to s-naft, and then you will be on shift for 80 years, as the legislator said. 12 hours, some of the poor people should work 12 hours for the next 12 years, according to the contract letter of ayal, who is a citizen of his rights and the security of the power worker, the time of his wife and children should be. we are not discussing the youth of the population. let there be a warm family law with this poor unfortunate worker,
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he will get 11 million in one month that he is working, then where will he go in the next 12 years, go to work in snab, go. there is a work law that can be based on the annual salary. regions or industries should be determined, but this model that we do not implement, but unfortunately it has not been implemented yet, well, and the pathology that has become from the current implementation of the wage method, like the national uniform wage that we have now, and well, alongside it , from that side. we have a tsunami of poor apprentices in big cities, for example, cities like tehran and alborz. well
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, we have apprentices who are really living comfortably at the cost of their minimum wage or the minimum wage that they have in many provinces with the same salaries of apprentices , that is, the difference between the regions of the provinces is completely in this case. mahreza and the next discussion is about the share of informal employment , which means that in many of the border and deprived areas, we have more than 70% of informal workers, which means that benga is in a state where it is possible to pay as promised or be subject to the labor law. there is no need to pay insurance , pay at least, and this is the disparity between provinces and regions in terms of cost of living, inflation and labor market indicators, such as unemployment rate and participation rate, even among young women and educated people. let's observe these
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factors, which means that you can see the scientific cause of other countries as well. i am in iran when we check, we see that our regions are really not on the same terms with each other in these respects. well, we have the potential to legislate in rome . the law has come into the hands of a region, so we say, so what's better , we can be very comfortable with this. let's reduce this regional imbalance to some extent and support many students who are suffering in this field. it is wrong . we have said this many times. how to calculate
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our inflation. inflation affects our living expenses, not last year's income. let's assume that inflation this year will be 40 salaries and 9 tomans. we need 4 million tomans in salary. let's raise it so that a person can live. the cost of living in 2018 was 18 million tomans. if inflation is to be calculated, because mr. babaei is on the line, i am saying that it is required that the minimum be observed. roy last year's cost of living should be calculated, otherwise, i'm sorry, this wage dispute that continues forever, if you give a 40% inflation to the worker, 9 million tomans was in arrears last year , he himself has a 9 tomans difference, this 9 tomans difference is getting bigger every day. the topic of
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another topic of statistics was your question, show the statistics in the year when banana 57 was added , our employment growth has increased, our insured growth has increased, which is contrary to the words of our dear employer who say, sir, when wage inflation is in line with inflation or for example 50% growth, we have a decline, so why are the social security statistics showing this? it shows that we had an increase in insured growth in the year that was 57, and the following year, these two bananas are ours, if we want this wheel to be produced for the derby rotation. apart from that, we have to increase the worker's ability in purchasing, if the products of the dear employers of our country are bought from other countries, then as a result, we have to work let's give it buying power and then we will say, sir, why is this product not turning well? very well, mr. tajik, this is a regional wage issue. see
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, we have infrastructure in our country. now, contrary to what the doctor said, we do not have infrastructure. i say, when you can't , which province has the lowest inflation in the country, ma'am? our doctor, when according to the province that has the lowest inflation , we cannot at least give it a hand, this issue has been discussed many times, considering that the government is always trying to make statistics, he said that the salary should be increased by 35 %, if this is not the case, the basic salary should be increased by 35%. see above, unfortunately, the government's preemption is in the hand every year or in every insurance meeting, the government is offering a solution to end the game in its own favor. we want the regional wage to be fair. pardon 3 of article 43 of the constitution has specified the way for the government
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. it says, sir, we must use the worker in sufficient quantity. we will free him. as mr. doctor said, what do we have to do with the world organization? we are our own law. article 41 of the labor law and article 43 of the state constitution are complete. unfortunately, to his own sovereign duty in the supreme labor council. the supreme labor council should be a mediator and act as a governing body have a middle ground and make a decision. he comes to be lost in the role of the employer, which is a clear example of conflict of interests. unfortunately, we have this challenge in the region. mr. babaei, what is your opinion about the determination of salary according to the region? a region if it should be that in fact. the construction of the whole country's economy will finally become a new one. now , for example, in this deprived province of the country, we can at least buy bananas, for example, if
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you count at least one worker, it will reach 20 million in the most deprived region. i don't think that we are big cities why is the root of this conversation between the mozad discussion and its relationship with other bananas, other variables of production and services, and the collection of a 40-year-old conversation, that is, because the governments have a strong interference in our decision-making, we have and in the end we cannot with 40 -year-old infrastructures. we want you to ensure this experience in secret. this requires a very serious meeting in the parliament, in the specialized commissions of the parliament and related to the activists of the labor community, employers, and in the government . all the variables that were problems, problems should be why this 40-year-old nonsense in the past years in the last 40 years, in the last 40 years, as the head
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of the labor faction, how much have we yelled at? finally, i think that in the parliament there is a lot of this atmosphere that they say is in the atmosphere of workers and in the atmosphere of employers. he is not a fan of the country's decision-making centers. to be honest, i always express my opinion. in fact, there is no such thing as a level playing field for the workers of the country, we are not a country, it is just a nation with a lot of money, god knows how busy you are, it is as if the governments are giving a message to the workers of this country, saying that for now you are busy, we are in this. for example, in the country, i don't know , we have 3 million unemployed youths because they are busy. look, we see the relationship between banana and productivity in the labor law . did he come to our pregnant worker
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, did he do overtime production, did he come to talk about bahrabi and akor ? no, he didn't. he just came there again with swedish-style contracts that he signed. look at an article of the law, article 40 of the labor law, in relation to the manner of labor relations and the relation of society. the rights of the labor community in relation to all work with the labor law. dastmod regionally at your service, arsam man yeh a small point about the discussion is very small, because we are running out of time. that
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the budget planning organization has made a decision regarding the 1404 budget , unfortunately, in this area of ​​salaries, an obvious violation has occurred in this same circular, which has proposed a 20% increase in salaries, because the first clay of mamarkaj's grenade goes up to soraya, divarkaj, this is clearly against article 125 of the civil service law, we hope this problem should be corrected in the discussion of the supreme council of my work. actually, we have something called saja. we don't have a bias in two ways, one of which is the government itself, the big employer of mr babai also pointed out that practically the representatives of the employer are two people in one person, the representative of the worker and the representative of the workers, because they do not come from the heart of a strong and real labor organization. we focus on the livelihood benefit, at least that work as one of the indicators
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. naturally, the regional wage is also logical because the cost is completely different in different parts of the country, especially in terms of rent and housing . despite the fact that this increase in inflation increases salaries the amount of inflation that happens should be seen to increase a bit in some regions, not that we want to reduce the minimum wages in other regions with one condition. in my opinion, if we consider the issue of the livelihood basket, the regional wage can definitely help , god willing. to make it more reasonable, the model of increasing our minimum salary, very good, thank you very much, mr. zahourian , for being with us, i will say goodbye to you , dear mrs. khawani, friends, just let us know how much time we have until we follow the final discussion and the final part, madam, very good, we we have four minutes, ms. azizkhani, to wrap up. now in
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now, considering that the president also mentioned this issue and that the salary increase should be in line with inflation, you can tell me what should happen until the end of the year , which is decided anyway like every year. we have the salary in a calmer way and somehow all the groups are satisfied to leave the meeting anyway . the law has come into effect that if 7 people approve the minimum hand in the meeting, the hand means that the hand is declared official. now how are the seven people? we have four people representing the government in the supreme labor council, 3 workers and 3 employers. that is
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if it happens somehow that the government and each of these groups , it doesn't matter whether the workers or the employers agree on a promise or reach an understanding that this wage is acceptable, it will be announced like this year when the workers did not sign the government and the employers. approving this, well , we had the wave of dissatisfaction of the workers, in my opinion , this part needs to be amended , that is, it should be at least with a majority of votes in three spectrums, not just the total of two spectrums together . what is being discussed now is the issue of wage adjustment, in my opinion, the government has a place the way it works, we have shocks that may eventually enter the economy unexpectedly, well , this has an inflationary burden , making the cost of living difficult for the workers to discuss. salary
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is another scenario that the government can work on. if we have a severe inflation shock during the year , it should not be like this that the salary is determined at the beginning of the year and it will be the same until the end of the year. after all, this is another approach and you can see another discussion in the whole social security statistics. what the social security itself has announced is that 217% of social security beneficiaries receive at least a hand, which means that it is not such a large number. it means the highest density of supply statistics. our society is two or three times the minimum hand, so our minimum hand takers are less, so we will come and see the status of rum production .

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