shafii, an expert on international issues , will present his analysis on the subject in tonight's conversation . if you are interested in watching this conversation , follow it on khabar network . he arrived in st. petersburg, russia, in the supreme national security council to participate in the meeting of the high-ranking security officials of the brics countries. . this meeting with the aim of examining contemporary threats in the field of security, fighting terrorism and providing security in the field of information and communication technology continues from today until the 20th of september. first of all, let's see a report about brics, how it was formed and its functions.

saudi arabia, uae, egypt, ethiopia and argentina. 42 they have 46% of the population, 30% of the world's area, more than 26% of the world's economy and 4700 billion dollars in foreign exchange reserves. the goal is to overcome the one -sided structure of americans in the world. unfair to these countries to develop or become better.

brics members say: america needs a plan to pass this unipolar structure. with the formation of five subgroups in brics , they will arrange their program in this way. combating the financing of terrorist activities, combating the use of intelligence tools, communication for terrorist purposes, combating the activities of foreign military forces in the countries another, to deal with the orientation of people, to deal with the increase in the logistics capacities and logistics services of terrorist groups. what brics members have planned to ensure the security of the multipolar world has led western analysts to this conclusion. i'm seriously thinking the west might be going down like a gun slinger grown old and careless or a prize fighter past his prime and living on past glories. it happens to the best, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow. mohammad javad reza soltani, radio and television news agency. very well , mr. shezadeh, i say hello nice greetings, politeness and respect

to the dear viewers of the special talk show, thank you very much , mr. shafi, hello, good night, good name, may god be the most merciful, and i am at your service, mr. shatarzadeh, and i am also at your service, dear viewers, thank you, mr. shaterzadeh . in the report about brics, but if possible , please tell us about the goals of the formation of brics and what are the defined functions of the countries that are members? in the name of allah, the merciful. if i want to sum it up in one word, i should say that brics means the rebellion of the southern world or the non-western world against the system. unfair western liberal ruler. this is the result of what briks idea. it is the new world that

wants to shape the new world order. everyone knows that power is moving from the western world to the eastern world or the non-western world. brics is an assembly for the formation of this. in this new order , iran will definitely have a special place that will be able to play its role again. allow me to mention some of britain's policies. finance in the world formed for establishing close monetary and commercial relations with each other and

the south-south cooperation formed by brics seeks to reduce dependence on america and europe. brics is looking for a suitable change. world economy and making these relations fair. brixpy's name, which is in front of the suif system. brics has created a fair system in order to play an effective role in helping to bankrupt countries are trying to have a positive impact on

important political or economic crises in the world, such as the syrian crisis , the afghan crisis, the iraqi crisis, and even the iran embargo , which brace strongly opposes. unilateral sanction of america is against the unilateralism of the united states , brics is confronting the domination of the west on international institutions, and therefore there is a huge capacity in brics that i would like to share some of them . only in 2024, brics has 276 events. which includes various meetings of presidents, heads of meetings of foreign ministers, ministers of finance there are ministers of agriculture, ministers of education and science, and there are many. i want to summarize this in one word . brics is looking for global governance

. new governance is what brics is looking for. bast used these capacities, of course , he did a lot of work in the field of education. there are many ideals in the field of security. today's meeting, where the secretaries of the supreme national security council are present, has made a good start and has taken good measures. in the field of cyber security, there is serious work in hand .

the meeting of the ministers of industry is regular with these meetings ministers of science and use of brics capacity to solve bilateral issues, which i know just today , in the meeting of the secretaries of the supreme national security council of the two iranian countries, mr. shaygo emphasized the discussion. the integrity of iran's currency in the issues of iran's three islands or in the issue of zangzor, they have been seriously emphasizing that we respect the integrity of iran's currency, well , solving such issues on the sidelines of the

brace summit meetings is important. thank you very much mr. shafi , what mr. shatirzadeh said. pointing out the capacities that exist in brics that can change the order in the world or can be one. create a scale considering the history of beris, which is not a very long history, and the countries that are its members, the 5 countries that are the main members and the limited number that will be added later, is this number considering that we finally have different unions on that side in the west as well? does it have the power, wealth and capacity for this rebellion that mr. shatarzadeh mentioned to happen in the world after brics ? let me tell you a few things . we have the formation of institutions , that is, at the international level in its various forms there is, my reason is that if in the past the world

was governed by poles, now it is governed by regions, now these regions are sometimes vast areas of al-qaeda, like brics, which is a small town in south africa. one in latin america, one in asia , etc. the second point is that when you analyze some of the regionalisms or these institutions , we say some of them. they know that this system is efficient and divided into four categories . this has nothing to do with it. it just wants to. yes

, the brics approach is a reform approach, not a revisionist approach . in some places, there are alternatives. why? there is a reformation because brics itself was formed within the framework of this order. a country like china became powerful within the framework of this liberal international order. they don't want to suddenly destroy this order structurally and replace it with a new model. they call the liberal international order, sir, it has four parts, one of which is the value order, where it talks about the human rights of democracy based on the western model. they say we do not accept this. your values ​​are not universal. cultural values ​​are relative. from country to country. it varies from one region to another. therefore if you want to condemn us by your own standard

, this standard is not acceptable. who says this? almost all brics members say this. now i will open a parenthesis. some of these groups sometimes form an independent group . sometimes a group has a leader, that group is hegemonic. basically, most of this point of view are russian and chinese points of view, that is , most of this point of view is chinese, but brazil is part of the left current , and agrees with this point of view. western nutrition it is possible and he is active in the field of human rights . i want to say that they are prohibited and he is active. so this is almost a point of view. of course , i will open a parenthesis again. maybe it was necessary. it is necessary

to say in the first program in brics itself. since it is newly emerging, we cannot for now let's talk about a cohesive group. countries have completely different views in some fields, especially when you come to china and india, for example. therefore, the views are not necessarily the same because it is new, the same issues and ideas are raised, and structures are formed according to them. it takes and sometimes it is possible the structures need to be revised. i think there are differences of opinion. do you believe that now , if you allow me to say these few points , then for example, our country itself, now that it is entering brics , is not supposed to implement everything that has been approved since the beginning of brics until now. in it is enough to accept it, it is possible to study and review it again, and in

some places, he can express his views. now, i want to say that this is an economic discussion, an economic discussion . they have an important point. their important point is that , sir, this economic order that you created it , it is inefficient in some places, for example, it says the international monetary fund and the world bank say that their decision-making process is in trouble. they say that third world or developing countries account for 50% of the world's gross domestic product. their share based on the voting rights of 15% is not acceptable . when they give a loan, they make the loan conditional , they make it conditional on human rights, they make it conditional on observing democracy, etc. this is the object of these countries, so this is one of the places where they provide an alternative like brit bank

. well, this is the question, mr. doctor, when do you have a swifto international bank? are you going to form the corresponding one in the form of braces ? isn't this the opposite of that? 100 100 no, no , look, in what parts did i mention it? for example, let's assume that now, maybe many chinese people, at one time , china was banned from entering it, but now. china has filed a complaint against the united states of america through wto 24, some of these institutions are acceptable to them, and i am two. to say something else , i will reject the security order. the security order of the brics countries say, sir, that it should be based on the united nations charter. they are against the security order that is based on us-centered alliances. of course, some countries like india may there is a problem here, because in some places it has alliance relations with america

, and finally, the political order that is discussed in this way is related to the structure. there is an international system , they see unipolarity as a threat to global security, so they believe that in order to make decisions more legitimate, more countries should be members of the system, and in fact they support multilateralism, in any case, we have many of us here now. we talk and our decision-making apparatus should not forget that brics is at the beginning of the road and this and from now on if the country wants to be influential. it should have an effective role in designing ideas and forming structures. this is the end of the discussion for now. very well, mr. shatarzadeh, you think this is a difference of opinion . you are not

comparing yourself with mr. shafiei. it is probably looking for a counterpart to nato in this direction . look, brics is young. i agree with mr. doctor in this regard, but it is building institutions that can correspond to the existing institutions that govern the world, which were built by the liberal order of the american west. and europe is a western system that can stand. as long as it does not reach that capacity , it will definitely use the existing capacity, but it is protesting, it is protesting the existing system, it does not consider it fair, because it does not know it is fair, it is looking for a new structure , that is why i mentioned the new governance

, brics in all aspects. governance is working. science, technology, cyber security, i don't know , information technology, economics, insurance, banking, everything , it is building an institution that can replace the existing western institutions when it reaches maturity. there are 32 countries applying to join brics right now. today, brace is half of the world with 9 countries, if 32 countries are added and the next countries will reach more than 3 quarters of the world, the meaning is that the same word that i said is the rebellion of the global south, everyone is tired of the existing order and they are looking for a new order. there is a new system

, brics has this capacity, brics is the only alternative that can create this so-called capacity , we don't have any other alternative to the western system at the moment, anyway, the western system is a powerful system that has clawed at the whole world. it needs a capacity as an alternative that has a superpower, at least that is china, brics today has more than 70% of the world's energy in its hands , which is a power in itself. today, brics dominates the important straits of the world, the strait of hormuz, the strait of babolmandab , the suez strait, and this itself creates power . today, brics is the most important corridors of the world, the east-west, north -south corridor, all of which are within the brics countries. these are the things that give brics this power and this authority.

he wants to play a role in the future and in the new world order. very good and always talk. it has been that joining this in the principle of inter-organizations international or international organizations or international groups can have benefits for countries and it has always been said that iran's joining the shanghai cooperation organization and iran's joining brics can create capacity and benefit us, especially in the field of economy. ok, what benefits can we get from brics? see, because it is new, now you and even our membership is new , you, no, no one should expect an immediate objective achievement for us , but the logic and theory is this, when a your country , you are talking about a country, it is a rich country these are capabilities that we call national capabilities. if this country

establishes a relationship with another country, its capability will increase, which we call relational power, meaning the power created as a result of the relationship. if a country becomes a member of an institution, it gains a new power, which we call institutional power. so, practically, if the brics structures, i will give an example , the brics structures that you mentioned are formed in the economic field, it automatically has a series of rights for us and creates a series of obligations for us, obligations in cooperation with others and our open rights. for cooperation with others as for example, one of the main goals of brics, according to mr. shatterzadeh's criticism, is that it is the world's economic governance model. for this purpose, he established a bank , the new development bank or brics bank. this bank

lends according to its own standards, provides financing , and creates infrastructure projects. or does it have another economic structure under the name of precautionary reserve agreement, it acts as a support , that is, when you are possibly under sanctions or your economy suffers sudden shocks , it supports with 50 to 100 billion dollars in reserves, so be a member. we are in the field of economics the basis of the current structure has these concerns, one of our main concerns is the issue of sanctions , but it is not operational yet, which means it could happen in the coming years . however, i said that it should probably be at the beginning of the journey, because it is an idea that has turned into this. when you start work, you may

act with considerations and caution, but this is a very important capacity for us. meanwhile, i would like to say that your service is essentially in essence. it is economic. brics is basically economic in nature, but as it progresses, it comes to problems political and security has also increased. it is possible that some, that is , those who founded brics, like the chinese, hope to advance the security and military sector within the framework of shanghai. in my view, brics is a chinese idea, or at least a russian chinese idea , but the shanghai cooperation organization is a chinese idea. russian, but it does not mean that if this idea is chinese and russian, no other country will join it, not countries with membership. they follow their own interests in these institutions. i will give an example. until yesterday, we were worried about the position of russia and china towards the islands.

yesterday we were worried about russia's position regarding zangzor. now, in today's negotiations, russia is changing its view . this means that an institution is a place for discussion, a place for consultation and bargaining, and to propose and clarify a point of view. i mean, sometimes these meetings are more important than the text itself , so this has happened in conversations with russian officials and survey officials , but i want to say that this capacity has been created for us , maybe if it wasn't for the virix summit in the framework of bilateral relations, of course, a result

was reached, but a result that has an international reflection, a result as if an institution of this the position supports this , he didn't have this achievement anymore, mr. shaderzadeh , what do you think is the most important challenge that brees is facing now in order to be able to do it? in the recruitment process, in the formation of that consensus, see brics, it was said two or three times that it is young, it is still far from the ideals that it designed for, so it does not have a coordinated system among all countries, india has a routine for itself, china has a routine for itself. everyone has a routine for themselves , and that's why brics still doesn't have a head

. if i want to give an example, today brics is managed as a board of directors, not as a leader. there is no leadership . this is a big challenge for brics to reach an agreement, especially in the political and security fields, to take the same position . with sanctions, it is like opposition to unilateral domination, when it is interpreted that a sanctions club has been formed from brics, it means that a sanctions club has been formed . the western dual system, however, has brics

he takes them to make it fair. but it can create good opportunities for iran , for example, if we face the so-called swift sanctions in brics , brikspy gives us the opportunity to find a replacement for swift. if we are facing hardships for our basic goods , today brics more than 80% of the basic goods of the world , which is meat. sugar, oil, animal feed produces these in brazil, brazil is the first producer and the largest producer of basic goods from russia, as well as wheat, we can easily, within the framework of the brics system, without discussing let's have financial transactions and bank embargoes and follow them in brics format

. both the chinese and the indians all agree on this issue and south africa, if something happens, the back of the western economy will be broken , so we can take advantage of these opportunities that are in line with our policies, it is from brics. thank you very much. your excellency , about brics and said how you should see a brics in three ways sometimes. see countries individually, sometimes collectively in the framework of brics sometimes, in their international position, that is, countries put forward positions in the discussion of brics economy , it has a mechanism called payment system , it is looking for an alternative system to swift , it is looking for exchange between countries within the framework of national currencies, it is looking for the production of new width that they predict.

it will be stronger than the euro. therefore, it is an institution whose vision is a positive vision. that is why different countries want to join it. thank you very much, mr. shafiei, for the presence of his excellency, mr. shadi. i am grateful to you and the respected viewers for the special news talk tonight i watched i hope it has been used by you. good night and god bless you.

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