importing these goods means freeing the import of more than 1500 domestically produced items . we want to open it in the country . the door can be opened for competitors when we are not embargoed . we can import the technology. this fan is now in front of me with better quality. let's make it cheap , let's make it cheap, then the consumer will buy from me . the officials of the ministry say that the correspondence is necessary with the government's economic coordination headquarters for the extension. this law was implemented, but due to the expiration of the law , it was not possible to extend it. considering that the duration of the performance of our guests in this program is mr. mohammad mehdi baradaran, vice president of general industry of the ministry of mining industry and trade, mr. alireza manaqbi, chairman of the high import forum, mr. hamid reza ghaznavi, secretary of the entrepreneurs' forum. we are trying

to talk more about this issue with these friends . brothers, you are very welcome. this law was written and approved under one condition, and a period passed and now it has been canceled. what was the purpose of this law, in the name of allah, the most merciful al-rahim, well, as you have explained, in 2017, we had a horizontal challenge in the country, which was facing challenges. at that time, the islamic council tried to pass this law, now the various articles of this law it has been with the government for the past 5 years.

97 and 98, now the law has been applied since 2018. in 2018, some restrictions were also applied with the permission of salam qawa to protect the domestic capital, and in particular, this protection is not absolute, it is with conditions , that is, it is not the case that we have rights. we want to lead the people as consumers' rights, but also in the case of producers, those who use their capital in our country and are doing job creation and production in all countries of the world when there are fluctuations or impulses. this impulse is applied in their economy governments are trying to control the economic issues for the benefit of the national economy and national production and to move the situation in a direction that national production or national employment will not be affected. well, in my opinion, this was part of the good laws that they tried, of course, the law is limited to the time until the end of

the program. it was the seventh, the terminal was the sixth. although in the proposed layer of the government in the 7th plan, the continuation of these issues was again requested, but in the final law, it was removed and only at the stage that was allowed in the law, in the five years leading to the end of the law of the 6th plan, limited practices are allowed. . again with criteria such as domestic production should not be harmed, even existing domestic production should be strengthened. it should be effective in increasing exports and the chain of goods leading to exports. be within the framework of the country's announced foreign exchange resources and

today, after these 5 years or 6 years, we see that we have grown well in that industry. well, you are sorry. you, me, and our beloved are simultaneously, for example, three producers whose goods are connected to each other in a supply chain or to create a new value , if any of us. this map cannot perform in

our own geographical situation, others may not be able to create the value chain and the final value will not be created, well , you were a certainty of the ban, the end of this law and in any case , the expiration of this law, will it affect production or not, in the name of god. at your service, dear guests of the program and dear viewers, hello and have a good time, dear mr. aslan khoani,

there are a few important points in this regard. one is that today there is war in the world. there are subsidies to produce and maintain competitiveness. in the meantime, let's talk about removing the definitions , or we want to stop or ban imports , this will definitely not have a message other than the closure of factories and the prevention of economic growth and the failure to achieve wealth production. today, instead of coming with imports and draw a very short-term prosperity for the people . in general, the government and industrialized and advanced countries in the world are thinking of a long-term planning for the production and creation of wealth. are they industrializing or not? in general, these countries

use industrial policies that through industrial policies can boost production and ultimately economic growth in relation to the discussion of banning the import of those items. well, if we consider only this one thing maybe it didn't cause much economic growth, in any case, in a situation where we have a multi-threaded currency system, the discussion of energy infrastructure, customs , transportation, rail, port, road , and dream and space budgets. which the government closes and causes inflation, the tax share that the government has doubled this share for incomes in these few years he has taken into account the inadequate budget of the government and the banks that have brought calamities to the country's economy

, and especially the issue of embargo, which has been increased due to the reason . we should not expect too much that our country will go towards industrialization and wealth production , but in any case, this issue is also an issue that has helped us a little to reduce the difficult and worse conditions, so to speak, of course, the issue of preventing the import of this pen. the goods happened at a time when the american sanctions for the country were increased because of the jcpoa issue. trump is the end of the world anyway it was torn and the country had to ban it, that is , it can control the demand side in relation to the currency so that the price of the currency does not skyrocket. it was for this reason, not because of the support of the producer, very well, but in

any case, it is also considered to support the production. he was also interested in production, i told him, but it was because of more important reasons to be able to manage the supply, not because of support for production, because they support the production of a production policy. and in the long run , let's put all these people in trouble, for example, the import of cars is prohibited let's ban the imported parts, i don't know , ban the household appliances , let's come back again after a few years, or let's make some policies, for example, create a ban in a certain area, like, for example, the border residents' cooperative, i don't know. let's open a path, the importer will quickly find this path and will do his work from that path . unstable economic policies generally cannot make a

so-called correct economic policy make the country go towards industrialization, for example, we import qatar. i will limit it, then it will open once we say that last year, 8 billion dollars of auto parts entered the country because of consumer protection . so what kind of industrial policy is this that we want to support the people, for example , we put restrictions on them to achieve economic growth and become producers ourselves. definitely, these conflicting policies cannot lead us towards industrialization, mr. manaqbi, do you consider it necessary to remove this ban or not? in the name of god, i also say hello to the honorable and discerning viewers of this program. first of all, i have to mention something as a person as a citizen. all officials of the country and all the people who move in the economic affairs of the country

are all looking for the interests of the final consumer , who are dying individuals, and all of these members are among those people. if we all agree that the idea is that all people should benefit, then what? all the people benefited from what we did. of course , our dear friend said that the issue was that we should prevent the production of bread . when it was proposed, the name of this law was to support the domestic production of something because we have a shortage of bread. no, the discussion was about supporting domestic production . i have to say something twice . first of all, i appreciate that everyone can support themselves in the first place. greenhouse support never achieves the desired result.

it should always be supported. in relation to this discussion , see no importer, i say no importer , i state this categorically, no importer allows himself. to have production in our country . to meet the needs of society. it has a relatively good quality with a good price. we declare 100 objections to the order price in the industry sector, whether in the import sector or in the import sector, the command price is completely wrong. well, if you think that if we have domestically produced goods that have these three components, no person who has a level of thinking and common sense will buy the goods. it means that there is no market for its consumption , such a thing is possible, so what did we do with this. has our industry flourished? are we obligated to work in all industries? do we

have a relative disadvantage to be able to work in all industries ? he can supply himself, he can reach the foreign market , he can earn the amount, and trade and production is a side interaction issue, it is not that we produce everything. don't buy anything from the world , let's expect that everyone will buy from us, sir, this will not happen until now, when this law was passed in 1997, the final consumer really got the desired result, our artisans get what they want. it reached him, what did we do? we are a specialized import sector of the country, you can see that in the way of public welfare, we are not allowed to ban at all by banning according to the law of 1372.

we can, for a certain time, if we take a competitor , a competitor who can be friendly with colleagues. if we take this competitor, what will happen to the monopoly like the things we have today ? if you have to do all this , you can ask them if you are satisfied that we will make a deal at some point. at some point, we are going to forcefully tell the people, no, sir . what we are saying is correct. well, let's not ask the people separately, but if you ask the people, see what answer i get. very well. brothers, this was a kind of limitation, when we look at it the issue is that those who wanted to import anyway have different ways. now , mr. ghaznavi mentioned the issue of commercial exceptions. the issue of the technical cartable was discussed, that is, they could go and import through that way. has the import been completely stopped in recent years? or not, and because the market is empty and not filled with different goods, import, export

, and production form an economy together, that is , it is not the case that we just say that we are looking for production and export, we consider ourselves to be unnecessary of any type of import. interaction with the world , we can improve the quality, we can improve our position let's share together and i also believe that there should be a cycle of exchanges. it is a two-way business . we apologized for the agreements we entered into in the past years. the message is that we want to move towards eliminating even the distortions in some places, that is, towards becoming competitive. let's go to trade, but let 's not look at what has been achieved in an absolute way, that is, it was not the case that imports were absolutely prohibited, just like pointing out commercial exceptions, saying, well, now, for example, these products are not allowed to be officially imported, but in the form of limited, for example, by the conditions of this practical work

now, what is the technical cartable, how can i allow you to attend business exceptions, for example, the discussion of sailors or tehlanji or backpacks legally, it was also a kind of legal license that was given as an exception at the same time . our country was brought up, that is, at the same time, there was this discussion between china and the united states, that is, mr. trump, who was not only on our side, also had a challenge with china in the face of this. at that time, i think there was a tariff war between china and the united states in the year 2, that is, america first. he came to china and imposed a 36 billion dollar tariff and said, "i want up to 200 billion dollars." we found out that i should increase the imported goods from china. well, china came in return and took 80 billion dollars for american goods

. we cannot say the role of the governments in entering the tariff war. well, the governments should be neutral here. they should not defend their own producers on the scale of supporting the production or, let me say, the presence of the producer, even the second round of negotiations of this war of distortions lasted for several years and they said that the people were following the complex negotiations between china and the news, so we are implicit that what is done it has had exceptions, it has been limited, it has had conditions, if we had our national power in production, we would not have been allowed to import in general, the need for national production was met in some way , import was not allowed for some products, when the price was doubled, even the supreme leader of the revolution warned that this support for national production does not include those goods that, for example , have increased the price or satisfaction it was household appliances that did not reach the general level. at one point , household appliances were at one point a necessary household car

. of course, later it was supported with some reforms , but the car several times. giving this warning, and the parliament itself, which had enacted this law, at some point did the opposite of this or the exception of this. regarding automobiles, or in different areas , the debate is whether our conditions are such that we want to reduce production support and allow imports to increase, to move the country's financial balance and the country's trade balance towards more imports . for some of our domestic resources, we are facing problems like food, pharmaceuticals , raw material problems, the machinery industry, which is necessary for any type of competition , to update our machines and technology, to have one day in the world. you can provide enough later in our conditions let's say that an unofficial market or an official market, but with the support of imported money

, we see what we have in contraband goods, that is, you see some goods, now these are imported into the country or smuggled into the country with high quality. lower with lower technology and then there are some networks that are presented to the final consumer, it affects both the national economy and the final consumer. transparent and a controllable market for your presence. it does not mean that we are people at different times they were acting contrary to the national economy and the production -oriented economy. our defense of trade and competitiveness and competitive-oriented quality production are doing the opposite. very well, mrs. saeedi, the spokesperson of the parliament's mining industry commission, is with us. mrs. saeedi

, hello to you. dear mihan and all the dear listeners who say god is strong , thank you very much mrs. saeedi. well, anyway, the law was not extended in the 7th program. from now on, we will support iranian goods in this sector, which is now similar to imports of manufactured goods. iran wants to be done, how to support iranian goods i will apologize because i am a member of the parliament and in short, wherever i go, there is finally a voice . coming down from the dear ones, if a sound bothers you, see our public space to discuss the same product as the same house, the maximum production capacity and the inner cover and support for the iranian product in 2018, that's fine. anyway, this ruling was until the 6th plan, now it has no authority. of course, the effect of my law was 20% . now, let me say that it was very salty at that time

, it did not come that much in people's lives, considering the goal of the legislator, but anyway, we are in the process. that law is the maximum production capacity of one product we had the project, mr. badova, but now this ruling has become a problem, but there are two things that can be done. one is that the law should be implemented even if it is poorly implemented. even if it is bad, it should be implemented. now there are two ways. the fact that the government is in the form of the import export law, which we are currently working on, says that if there is a crisis somewhere and for example there is a land problem, the government has the authority to create a ban on some goods. it is actually a bill. prepare it and give it to the parliament , if the government brings it, we will be much easier and the parliament will be much easier his hand is more open, but apart from that, we are now because the programs of the industry commission are part of the priorities

of the industry commission, the amendment of the law of the maximum number of people has come because, well, anyway, you know that this system was not strong. and this machingo did very poorly , his data was not the society, he brought these uncertainties to the center of the researches, the information came. and now the industry commission, which is one of its main programs, which , god willing, can actually be sent to the public stage of the parliament in the form of a plan, does it mean that the restriction of that time of the sixth program can be removed in the amendment or not? look, anyway, since the maximum law has come and its time is over, now the only way we have is to come and let these minor reforms that are going to be done. without marjayat , it is possible that this support of our inner sala

will be lost. well, in any case , for us, both quality and quantity are important for discussing domestic production, and after that, it is an effective part of the law, which , god willing, the commission will be able to actually do. he should follow that the effectiveness of the other law is 50-60%. this is too bad. we are writing the sixth program . it will be implemented on 20-30. we must create at least a process that achieves 70-80% of our plans, so why do we write plans and laws, but it is among the main plans of the industrial commission that, god willing, they will put this amendment in the law as a maximum, in fact, in their work process, this amendment that you what you are talking about

is that it includes domestic production and iranian goods. in fact, with ups and downs, we can adjust it. now, if we want to make a brand of iranian goods, the whole value must be iranian. actually, this is for the government. we will give the authority to ban imports, which can actually come from the manufacturer let us support all the process you want. this is so that domestic production is not affected, at the same time we do not face problems and crises and the effectiveness

of that law is maximized. now you have removed the loopholes. i think that by fixing those loopholes we can do a lot. our data was not complete, that is, these uncertainties exist and it was in the heart of the law and it made it less effective, for example, if we make the data public, if we are it, we have to discuss how we can get land, we have to have exports, so that we can discuss what the export comes from.

it comes from production, right? to produce to now we want to expand the term for import. on the other hand, when the material is imported, people must have money and wealth to buy that material, so all these paths lead to production . we must have production and export goods. let's bring and have employment on the other hand , those who go to work earn money and can buy goods with that money, so all these cases show that imports must be reasonable and intelligent , just as we cannot have imports, how can we have imports if we do not produce goods at all? on the other side of the world, we are working on capacities for example, assuming a product, they see how many they produce domestically, for example, the market demand is 1000, now we have a number, we say we will produce 800, then they calculate and say we

want 200. of this product, so the import is allowed only for this reason. when should this foundation be done? this foundation should be done by the ministry of industry. brother , when we started this work, we said that the world plans based on capacities. they should completely free imports. there have been bitter experiences in the world , anyway, in the east asian countries in the 90s they opened the doors and what crises happened to them in the economic field that lasted for decades, south america , brazil, argentina. allow yourself to be alone . contrary to the fact that the production is all dependent on you to support me, i say that the importer will support himself. if we have a production that meets the needs of the society, no importer

will allow himself. to risk his capital and bring that product, mr. ghaznavi, it happened it's not like that at all. an importer is not like that who, for example, does not bring goods that are produced domestically. by the way , it creates very destructive competition in very destructive competition. at that time, when the import was very high, this caused the production to increase and the number of production increased. and the quality has increased, we have a market, we have a cake, it is limited because

they are next to you, they import, after all, cosmetics , stationery, clothing, they import all of these models , after all, they have a competitive position in our country today, the largest producers of food, dairy products, sweets and we had chocolate, but you are in the community you were active in any case, you can't defend your production department, the situation of mr. qadmi, the situation inside, for example, sweets and chocolate, if the situation.

we hear, mr. ghaznavi, because this discussion is going on like this , the import is going on.