mines, workers' rights or the hardships of workers, safety and health of mines, supervision of mines and the performance of employers and contractors have been put under the microscope more in this program , we will discuss more about these issues. if you want to see this conversation , follow us on khabar network. yes, we look at the statistics and graphs about the accidents in the country's mines. if the graphs show my friends, yes, the number of accidents in the mines in operation in 2016 was 1,876 cases, in

2017, 1,546 cases, in 2018, 1,770 cases in 2019, 1,893 cases and year 1400, 160, 140, and 6 items the next chart shows the number of accidents in mines by activity during the year 1400 in 390 iron ore mines. we had 34 incidents in coal and 368 incidents in shenu mase, 187 incidents in decorative stones, 144 incidents in egypt, 110 incidents and 27 incidents in other mines. let 's see the next graph. yes, in this graph, the share of mines with health, safety and environment units you can see in 1396. until 1400 in

1396, 14% of mines have health, safety and environment units, in 1397, 18 in 1998, 18 in 99, 24 days, and in 1423, four tenths of the share of mines have health, safety and environment units. life is about issues related to mines and safety discussion. and i will talk about workers in this program with the guests of the program. my friends prepared the report. let's see this report , we will come back and we will be with you by introducing the guests. it was bitter news. the death of a number of hardworking mine workers in the accident of the mine explosion in the mine of tebes. and a more bitter answer that should be considered for the safety of the country's mines. i hope let this tragic incident

be a lesson to prevent incidents that may happen again in the country, because in 2016 , unfortunately, we had such an incident in the coal mines. we had a country and on that date expert teams were supposed to be formed to prevent such incidents in recent years. this has happened many times in recent years. this has happened many times in the sengroud coal mine in rudbar, in the winter yuvert mine and in the tzareh damghan mine, which had an accident just last year. and unfortunately we lost a number of dear workers and compatriots there , and now that the coal mine is closed due to the high capacity of unexpected explosions in all parts of the world, we need these latest reports of

the explosion and fire incident in the coal mine. soma in western turkey killed 274 and injured at least 80 another person has a story, who is to blame here , it is not the person who is to blame, maybe it is the view of the hakrani system in the mining sector that we have to constantly update our conditions, not that mine, all the mines in the country are mandated by the price of coal. the stone that has shortened the hands of mine owners in new investments. mandatory pricing and assignment pricing are such that practically, coal mine workers who work deep in the ground must somehow subsidize the steel sector. the increase in the price is over, the stable price of coal has caused a part of the developments to stop. a part of the preparations stop asal nemati of the sda news agency, yes,

i would like to thank my colleagues in the mining group of the sda news agency, mrs. nemati, for preparing this report. very well, my guests in this program are mr. saeed samadi, secretary of iran coal association, mr. saeed asgarzadeh, secretary of iran iron ore association . let's establish that if they are willing to answer, mr. samadi, very much. welcome, let's start with you. basically , what is the cause of accidents in coal mines, because they are similar to these we had it in different places, in rudba , damghan, kerman, and now in tebet, in the name and memory of god, i greet you and your viewers, and

i offer my condolences to the coal community of the country and also to the survivors . considering that coal mines are generally underground and are located deep in the ground, and the coal itself, on average, each ton of coal contains between 10 and 12 cubic meters of methane, depending on the type of coal . they extract methane, and of course , if this methane gas is not properly measured, it is correct. evaluation if it is not tested accurately and the monitoring systems and gas measuring systems do not work properly, then it can lead to an accident and the main reason for these

explosions is methane gas explosions. it has been a holiday for a week, the gas has accumulated, it may be that the gas measurement systems in the mine are basically not working, methane gas is not bad. remember, there is a probability of explosion above 3% , and between 5 and 7% is the best condition for explosion, while according to the time safety protocols when the gas reaches 1%, the mine should be closed or something we also have very rare cases like this, which is the instantaneous emission of gas that forms gas reservoirs in the coal layers, like limestone formations in the coal layers, which generally cannot be evaluated in the normal state of ventilation. it is happening naturally , they might

come across one of these reservoirs and suddenly one of these gas reservoirs, which has been compressed and has been there for millions of years, will flow into the tunnel. and increase the percentage of gas above the permissible limit and all these changes happen in about one or two seconds and lead to an accident for these different reasons. well, mr. askarzadeh, you are very welcome . the supreme leader said in his message that reducing the dimensions of this calamity is one of the most important points to prevent the recurrence of such incidents. what is your pathology of this incident? in general, how is the safety of mines monitored, how is it monitored, in the name of allah, the most merciful , the most merciful, please allow me to express my condolences and sympathies to the family of our respected colleagues in the

joy mine of thebes and hope that god will bless them. give them patience so that they can endure this difficult situation and express sympathy with them with the things you said, i would like to mention why we have not been able to manage the incident part in the mine until now, maybe we should be careful after every incident, sir, the methods we use are not the methods we are working on. there is a problem with looking only to find the culprit and then condemning , arresting, and shutting down. it is probably not the right thing to do. we are probably not sitting in the right place. the fact is that if we want

to look at it from the point of view of the main factors, one of the most important factors of these events is poverty, in my opinion. investment is the pride of the first investment the victim who takes from the mine is not safe, that is, when the mine can't work in the way you can. to attract capital to himself, and the mine worker and the miner who operates the mine do not have the possibility to have regular and reinvestment in the process of exploration, extraction and processing. . unfortunately, in the structure of the ministry of mines and

metals, until after it finally became the ministry of mining , industry and trade, we always had supervision in the vice-minary of a general department under the title of the general department. basically, i believe that if we want to fulfill the duties of the governance system explain for the mining sector. maybe we don't see anything other than the so-called facilitation and improvement of conditions for production and trade in addition to supervision, but we were surprised once when the general directorate of supervision was removed, which device was performing its duties , it is not doing anything anymore, it has been removed, supervision has been removed . in my opinion, we should pay more attention to the result behind this, so the approach that

exists towards mines is not a development-oriented approach that protects people's lives and property, because it is the second so-called sector that is damaged and sacrificed after safety. directly with human lives there is a connection. now, this general office has been removed anyway, but the law that has not disappeared, we have the mining law amendment law, article 34 of the ministry of industry, which obliges the mines subject to this law to fulfill the obligations of explorers, operators, to comply with the principles of safety and the protection of employees is equivalent to the supervision and inspection of employees according to the executive regulations of this law. well, we have this, that is, we have the law. now that head office has been removed. the law has not disappeared . however, the ministry of industry, civilization and trade is obliged

to do this. definitely not the data is definitely weakened. it is definitely weakened. see, you remove this when you have an independent general office for this work. it shows your approach . your approach is based on the principles of development based on respect for human dignity, respect for human dignity with guarantees. their health and lives will return instead of this , it will go towards producing only , your name will be mentioned, and the sale of raw materials, which we have put in place, we do not have two more sources in the production, so-called, in providing capital for the mining sector, this poverty of capital that i am saying comes from here. it comes from us that one of these two is about export, which i don't know immediately we will get to other topics, let's leave it at that. mr. samadi , you told the part about the equipment that one should have , you also said about the dangerousness of that methane gas, the equipment in

the mines should be up-to-date and used anyway , see if this equipment is used or not and how it is used, with which device our coal mine equipment is an equipment belonging to coal mines that must be gas-proof . this is a principle in coal mines, and without a gas-proof permit, you cannot enter any electrical equipment into the coal mine. this one. a we have a series of individual equipment that the worker must carry and take with him. now, such as hooded, maxed, self-rescued, the rest of the equipment , and naturally, these equipment are mainly imported equipment. that is, considering that the production of charcoal in our country is very limited. in general, it does not take long for these to be manufactured domestically, they are generally imported , and of course, they need to

be imported from abroad. these equipments usually lose their life after a while, for example, they are one of the most important equipments of gas generators. gas generators play a very decisive role . they have all of these in the coal mines finally, it should be followed by the monitoring systems. no, it should come, now it will be followed up and monitored . we, coal people, according to the sensitivities that exist, we ourselves in the forum, after all, it is very different because it is different from other mines, the risks are very dangerous. based on a memorandum of understanding concluded with the engineering system organization, usually once or twice a year, all the coal mines of the country go through a checklist and check these equipments . mines will be closed even

last year because of this shutdown problems. and in any case, a surveillance can be seen in the limits of the protocols that exist in our country. the world may have different protocols according to the level of technology that is being used . the level of technology in our country is a special level according to the conditions of the rules there is enough, that is, if all these rules and regulations are carefully followed and there are no errors , of course there should not be an incident of this monitoring model that you just mentioned is also included in the law. the thing is that the ministry can appoint one of them to the engineering system organization in any case, i am not aware of other mines, but in coal mines , i can finally say that it

gets a good grade because they send us the report, sometimes even representatives from we also have these supervisions, that is, these supervisions are strict for mines, in any case, because you see, because it is with your human life, because it is written, there will be a meeting . there are about 140 parameters in zagal seng mines, which will be checked. he eats and finally they sign, sometimes if something is against the check maybe a week later, an accident happens , a problem happens, and the people who supervise must answer.

in terms of safety and engineering, it can be said that maybe in one of the mines, we had strict accuracy. in the last 10-15 years, i looked at this check and list. i have not seen a single case of warning in this mine , for example, the ventilation of a certain workshop is not correct , or a certain workshop is not properly maintained, or the arch is not installed properly. no, if you don't see the problem, you won't get it. if you don't see it later, if something happens to those people who hit 5 or 6 people under him, they should be held accountable. very well, mr. askazade. i

want to do it, so to speak. i confirm their statements and also say that this is not enough. the fact is that if we have a sufficient opportunity to invest in the safety sector, it means that the miner can do this, despite the fact that the investment creates safety for the mine directly. in the discussion of employment in the discussion of livelihood in the discussion. the welfare issues of the mine workers are also false, so i want to say that we should not be distracted from the main story, but what you say is no, i believe that if in the world around, for example, suppose, i think at least mr. samdi can confirm this, for example, we are in germany right now. we have 7 big companies in the matter of

coal and they produce something like 70 million tons per year. they make coal in some of these, for example , we are at a depth of 1,800 meters and above. in such a situation, you can see that the most basic advice that can be given is that these coal mines find a place to use their gas, that is, the so-called extraction process. at the same time, by sanding it in your presence , it will be shown that poisoning and incidentally extracting this gas and using it now, mr. samadi. most of them can confirm or deny this so-called, but for example, let's say that in tabas mines, we happen to

be facing a high situation with coals in terms of so-called gas production, something is in the above category. cubic meter for each extracted gas. if there is no problem, it will not happen by accident to be the best driver in the world until you make a mistake , but the problem is that we are used to immediately discarding all the so-called positive qualities of this driver and say that, well, you had an accident, you are the greatest person who could so-called

harm the car and the passengers in the sector. the mine is the same as mentioning this mine happens to be one of the relatively good mines, but our problem should be discussed in the section of your presence that the mine is a mine. the situation is that none of these things that i say have been defined as a mandatory standard package for coal mines. if you were to require that poisoning should be if you were to insist that, for example , gas measurement should be done at the beginning of each shift, i would agree, but in the end, there is no beginning. for example, suppose they do it one time at the beginning, one time they do it two hours later, finally, you are here in the shift between shifts two, three, and now one of the perhaps the things that friends should look at when

human lives are not the first priority, what are we looking for ? very well, let's go to the members of the parliament , mr. seyyed javad hossein, deputy chairman of the parliament's mining commission. greetings to you. mr. hosseini, in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful, i am in the service of his highness, yes yes, yes, we have your voice, mr. hosseini, yes , in the name of allah , the most merciful, the most merciful, i am a servant of his highness and all dear viewers . and we are dear guests. thank you, have you started investigations, mr. hosseini, yesterday, a respected chairman of the industrial commission, together with

a number of members of the islamic council of azam, actually prepared reports on the mining of the mine . it will be and then it will be sent to the islamic scene, god willing, for the information of the great nation. considering that there is no shortage of these accidents in our country, anyway, in the first six months of this year, there were about 10-12 of these accidents in which one or two people lost their lives in each of the mines. he intends to enter into the issue of mining safety. certainly , the islamic shura majlis, especially the industry commission , will enter into this issue and prepare a report in this field and intensify the opinion aspect, god willing. the main

issue is the field of hec supervision and security in fact, it has not been observed in this area, according to the reports that have actually been received, until now the issue of warning sensors that should have been announced , this is not a noon issue, this is the main issue. dear people, you know better than me that the events that have happened in this field are being carried out in, for example, 250 meters deep in the ground, and there are holes next to these walls , there is gas, there are some gas holes. sometimes you see these things explode in a fraction of a second, catch fire, spread because if those safety requirements are met. compliance if not for these problems that we are witnessing today, we will have to witness these issues again . unfortunately , warnings have been given about these incidents in the past, but unfortunately

they have been ignored. god willing, we will be able to deal with violators more aggressively in the future if necessary. if it is dealt with, it will be said that the laws are not binding, mr. hosseini, did you come to this point anyway? anyway, in this story, the ministry is obligated to seriously monitor the observance of safety and security principles , the engineering system is an arm of the ministry. the position was in this cases, but now this happened, other incidents have also happened, now in this incident, many people lost their lives and in other mines , anyway, as i said, one or two people at different times in the first six months of the year, as i said. it seems like they are losing their own lives . these rules are not binding. will you think about this? one of the issues at

hand, god willing. the work will be done tomorrow, these are the laws, and in fact, if their binding nature is a weakness in them, god willing, they will start to be revised and updated. first of all, the mining committee and after that , it will be sent to the industrial commission and finally to the famous islamic court. one part is actually the same issue, the failure to deal with the culprits of the accident, which has not been done in the past, to meet those requirements properly. mr. hosseinikia will definitely address these issues in the review. in some of the tweets or comments that we have seen in the past one or two days, some of these events are related to investment, sanctions, or other issues. is this logical? in my opinion , in fact, we have to admit that there are weaknesses

in the field of management and that discussion. supervision in this area these things have nothing to do with sanctions issues, and for this, the legislator should, god willing, be able to establish strong laws so that these incidents do not happen in the future. thank you very much, mr. hosseini, for being with us. we have mentioned the safety monitoring in the mines, that both the ministry and in any case other agencies should deal with this issue and monitor it . i would like to allow you to attend this matter give me a little, an issue, because i am an issue , one of the fundamental causes of these incidents, which are largely

closed. if i raise this for a minute or two, then i will answer your question. you see, the fact is that the first mines that our country needs coal for as long as it pursues the production of steel, our country needs 4 million tons of coal every year. we also have enough reserves of coal , we have 12 billion tons of geological reserves of coal until about 10-15 years ago, based on consumption. the country's food was based on domestic production, and for several years now, this policy has been reversed based on the country's needs putting it on the basis of coal imports and coal imports at very strange prices . last year, the price of one ton of domestic coal was 5,900,000 tomans. the price of one ton of imported coal is

over. in order to achieve new technologies, as safety equipment is a matter, you must gradually go to new technical knowledge and new technologies . the equipment you have now may be safety equipment, but there are other equipment in the world to achieve these in order to increase production. we corresponded with the ministry last year, we wrote a letter and said that in the situation that 800 million dollars of coal annually it is entering the country and comes at a price 3 times the domestic price . make a revision in the pricing of coal. make this price the real price. we are not saying the global price last year. the finished price was 7 million 500 thousand tomans, which is half the price of coal.