tv [untitled] September 24, 2024 1:30am-2:01am IRST
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it is the same in the mining sector as well, by the way, mentioning this mine is one of the relatively good mines , but our problem in your presence is that the minerjo mine is that none of these things that i am saying are defined as a mandatory standard package for coal mines. if you insist that you have to do poisoning. if you were to require that , for example, gas measurement should be done at the beginning of each shift, i don't believe that it will happen, but after all , there is no beginning. for example, suppose they do it one time at the beginning, one time two hours later . now, the issue is one of the things that maybe friends will tell him, see this for yourself, when he
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is not the first priority, what are we looking for human lives, see, very well, let's go to the members of the parliament, mr. seyed javad hosseini kiya, the deputy chairman of the parliament's mining industry commission. to you , mr. hosseini, in the name of allah, the most merciful, my servant is at the service of his highness, yes, yes, we have your voice, mr. hosseini, in the name of god, the most merciful , my servant is also at the service of his highness and all the dear viewers , i offer my respect and greetings, and i also offer my condolences. the heartbreaking incident in the barley mine in tibet we are at the service of your excellency and dear guests. thank you. have you started investigations , mr. hossein kia, yesterday, a respected chairman of the industries commission, along with a number of representatives of the islamic council of azam, in fact, the mine.
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insha allah , a meeting will be held in the industrial commission for the same issue and then it will be sent to the stage of the islamic council. now, considering that there are no shortage of these incidents in our country, in any case, in six in the first month of this year , there were about 10-12 of these incidents, one in each of the mines. he will enter into this issue and prepare a report in this field, and
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he will be able to confirm the monitoring aspect, god willing. until now, the issue of warning sensors that should have been announced , this is not a matter of noon, this is the main issue that has happened in this field, you know better than me, dear people, the work in about, for example, the land of 250 meters deep in the ground and there are holes next to these walls. there is gas, there are some pits of gas , sometimes you see these once in a fraction of a second, it explodes, catches fire , leaks because if those safety requirements are not met, these problems that we are witnessing today , we will have to witness these issues again. unfortunately , warnings have been given about these incidents in the past, but unfortunately they were ignored, god willing. if necessary, in the field of
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legislation, deal with the violators more aggressively it can be said that the laws are not binding, mr. hosseini, did you come to this point anyway? anyway, in this story, the ministry of position is obliged to strictly monitor the observance of safety and security principles, the system of engineers of the ministry of position it has happened in these cases, but now other things have happened. now in this incident, many people lost their lives and in other mines, anyway, as i said, one or two people at different times in the first six months of the year. as i said , losing their own lives seems to be a requirement of these rules it is not possible, will you give a thought to this? one of the issues that will be on tomorrow's agenda, god willing, is these laws. in fact, if
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their binding nature is a weakness in them, god willing, they will start to be revised and updated. first of all, the mining committee. and then it will be sent to the industrial commission and finally to the famous islamic court. one part is actually the same issue, the failure to deal with the culprits of the accident, which has not been done in the past, to meet those requirements correctly, it will definitely address these issues in the review. mr. hosseinikia has been in some tweets the comments that we have seen in the past one or two days , some of these events are now related to investments , sanctions, or other things. is this the logic of this issue? in my opinion, in fact, we have to accept that there are weaknesses in the management area and the issue of supervision in these areas. these
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have nothing to do with sanctions issues, and for this, the legislator should, god willing, be able to enact strong laws. that in the future from these events. nifte, thank you very much, mr. hosseini , thank you for being with us. please, thank you, mr. samadi. in the case of mines, we mentioned that both the ministry and any other agencies should deal with this issue and monitor it . is it logical or not , is this matter completely true? i would like to ask you to allow me to come to your presence . i am a little one . one of the fundamental causes of these incidents, which have been closed for a long time. let me
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answer your question. see, the fact is that the first mines that our country used to produce steel the country needs coal. we need 4 million tons of coal every year. we also have enough reserves of coal. we have 12 billion tons of coal geological reserves. until about 10-15 years ago, the country's coal consumption was based on domestic production. and for several years now, this policy has been reversed. basing the country's needs on the basis of coal imports. and that is coal import at very strange prices. last year, the price of one ton of domestic coal was 5,900,000 tomans. the price of one ton of imported coal was 15,900,000.
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toman means 3 times. well, you see, in order to increase the safety factor in order to reach new technologies, because safety equipment is a matter, you must gradually go to new technical knowledge and new technologies . the equipment you have now may be safety equipment, but in the world, equipment in order to achieve this, in order to increase production, we corresponded with the ministry last year, we wrote a letter and said that in the situation that 800 million dollars of coal is entering the country every year and it comes at a price three times the domestic price, please reconsider the pricing of coal . make the price the real price, we won't say last year's world price, the finished price was 7 million 500 thousand tomans, which means half the price of imported coal, mr. samadi, if this had not happened, i remember we sat here with you, we were talking about these issues
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anyway. we cannot relate the current situation to these issues. it is true that if it is taken care of and more investment is made , we can get help in the matter of technologies. he is aware of all these conditions, he knows that the pricing is mandated, he knows that imports are taking place, and he knows that everything happens, and he is working with all these conditions. he does, so he must respect safety. if we say that because there are these things now, then we will bring the thief down on safety. i think we promised the workers who are working there. that the operator does this work , you see, there is a law, this is the instruction of the ministry, that the technical supervisor, sometimes you, the chief engineer of that mine, will be the technical supervisor, sometimes the supervisor, because the mine itself may not need a full-time technical supervisor, of course you small mines
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like this are usually the technical supervisor of the ministry samad introduces and then the operator gives these rights, but the technical supervisor stamps under approval. he had to follow those rules and regulations and he should check that the person who pays his salary is the one who pays his salary anyway. now they say that this is an issue after all, but since then, the ministry is in a situation. for example, if we want to ask mr. eskerzadeh about the rights of these in this department, this is logical. mr. eskerzadeh uses the rights of the technical supervisors himself. see, the source of funding is that the ministry of home affairs does not have a budget for this work, but it is possible to create a way for it, for example. assumption let's create a fund in the engineering system organization , the users will pay the salaries there and through the engineering system organization, the least that can be done is to think too much, yes, doctor, you see, we have a problem here, i
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am very focused on reaching this the point where you should think about finding a solution to the problems until you are not your priority , until you say, sir, in terms of quantity , this should happen, until you understand the pain of the mining sector, the investor did not come today. that is to say, sir, from today i am the law. i changed my salary your government has done this, i have imposed taxes on your price , i will issue an order. well, this is a long-term plan. according to this, the workers of the mining sector inside the mine feel that this is running out of money . why, because we are gradually looking at it as a money bag. we are getting all kinds of incomes from it, so it will either reach a point where it closes, or if it reaches that point, then nothing. but before that , don't doubt that in the first sacrifices, one is about
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safety, one is about productivity, one is about discovery, and finally it's about production. there is another custodian, if he does not do his job properly, safety will definitely be sacrificed . mr. reefer, do you have my voice? well, it seems that we have lost contact with mr. rayatifer, who was also coming back from tabas . we were supposed to ask him about the latest work situation at the medical mine. asakzadeh, that point is, i think that it is for sure
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i wanted to tell you this. this part is an important issue. you see, we saw a source of income in the mining sector. one person has also invested . i don't know if they should buy these. he has invested and accepted this risk in order to go through a process. let your presence know that he has accepted his problems, but in the end, he is looking to do some economic work. if you gradually make the conditions difficult for this, the so-called thinking will find a solution for itself. i want to say this it is not an acceptable look for the mining sector. we need a developmental perspective in the mining sector. i turn. i am ashamed that
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we could not accept to the politicians that the mining sector is a high - risk investment sector. it is importing into the country with, for example , assuming that you have 3 times the price, you are insulting the mining worker who is working at a depth of 2,500 meters. we say, sir, as if they don't have their own rules of operation , let's take them and shut them down . look, we don't know the story of one of the best operators of the coal sector in the country.
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it's like monitoring, mr. govt. learn how to monitor. these are not simple issues at all . mr. mines, instead of saying that i will take this much money from you, you should say that i will not take this money from you , but i will do my duty. go get this technology and install it in the mine. ken, where did he do his homework in the ministry? tell me, sir , they will take half of your government salary this year. according to the law, it should be paid according to the legal clauses. i can tell you that the law has specified where the government salary should be spent. 65. in relation to mining, the government should sit down once , instead of assuming all of it as income and putting it in its pocket, it should say, "sir, do the work for the mining sector , go to the equipment of faith. this is related to the lives of the people. it is not a joke. look, you have given a statistic of the statistics." incidents, the statistics of incidents were interesting statistics
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, i have a small problem with it, the number of incidents is not important, the severity of the incidents. the severity of your important incidents in mines coal, you have a high incidence of accidents. let's assume that you leave the government salaries aside. mr. imidro, come buy equipment and facilities for free and provide them . i wanted to use the example of german mines . social welfare hello to you, i am at your service and to all dear viewers . hello, thank you. especially the working community of iran and the bereaved families of these loved ones. we are still in foss, and since
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last night, when this happened, yesterday morning, by the order of minister taaboun, we went to the region of pashan, and... the issues that are in the field of governance duties we checked the ministry of water karfa was social and, god willing, we can help in the continuation of the investigation and examinations, that the main causes are just. very well, mr. rayeti far, you can help us in this matter regarding insurance and working conditions. sufficient employment benefits insurance. what is the situation of these workers now, how much are they getting paid, tell me what i said. mandajo mine is a private sector mine that has 1700 workers and this mine also has a natural job plan according to article 49 of the labor law, every job has a labor organization formed there, the center of the islamic labor council there. it exists, and i can tell you that there are no arrears or salaries in terms of monitoring the good implementation of the labor law , which our inspectors have already checked and we checked yesterday
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, they have no salary arrears and generally the workers they are counted and after 20 consecutive years of working in the mine, they are terminated with a sabbatical, and all the workers who are in the mine and work in the tunnel are included. they will become difficult and harmful, then this is logical anyway. the amount of work is the same in other countries. how are the working conditions now , especially for coal mines, which have special conditions anyway, with those conditions of gas and in any case, the conditions are difficult compared to open-pit mines. well, i would like to ask you to look at the working conditions of the animal bed groups. there are two groups
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, group a, which must be pollutant-measured and, as the famous saying goes, checked, but there are groups that are difficult in nature. like working in a mine, working at height, and now there are 14 job titles that workers work in different places, which are illustrated in the supreme council of technical protection and law, that these are hard jobs, and those who work will be given a one-and-a-half-year bonus. after working in this field for 20 years , they will be released from work the pensioners receive continuous pensions and generally the work of miners, especially now the workers who work in coal mines , how is your supervision, mr. rayati fard, the head of south khorasan islamic labor council, said that
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we do not even have a methane gas sensor, how do you supervise you can go to these mines to the status of workers. according to the labor law , it is the responsibility of the ministry of social welfare to monitor the regulations of the handbooks that have been compiled, whether these handbooks are implemented by the employer or not, and whether or not the labor force is protected. well, we have approximately 6 a thousand we have an active mine in the country, which we formed every year in the mine safety working group in all mining provinces in the country, especially with the help of the ministry of industry, organization of the maad engineering system. the working group
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had a field supervision from there, and in two other cases, our 28 5 inspectors went and supervised there, and i think one of them had a field supervision in july, and had a periodical supervision, and the issues that were in the area of non-authorization of safety, the necessary notices to the employer. data and because the severity of the accident and the severity of the accident in the mine is high , this incident that happened now may have been minor accidents in the mine, but this severity of the accident and the casualties and the cost caused by this incident made the teacher very confused and saddened everyone, and the loss of a worker is really sad
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, mr. raitfar. how many inspectors do you have in the country? how can you inspect all these mines in one year? if you have only one presence in that province , as an example, let me give you a tip . look, we have a safety regulation in mines, which was approved by our supreme council of technical protection in 2019. it is estimated that there are nearly 450 articles that all safety officials in mines are required to comply with this regulation, and safety officials and technical officials receive necessary training. both the mine and the safety officer are responsible for the implementation of that regulation. the same mine safety officer is the one who pays the salaries of the operator himself. it is the same product. well, we
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have about 48 safety personnel in the same mine. these issues tend to have a significant number of security forces deployed and deployed. you are dying so that you can save yourself from it there is a problem with the labor force, but unfortunately , an incident happened because of this, but i would like to tell you one thing. we have 860 workers in the country, who are known as bailiffs, and they can cooperate with the honorable prosecutor if they feel like it. if the workshop or mine is unsafe and the safety precautions cannot be followed, they can cooperate with the center of that city or center. friends , i will call that mine or that workshop as it is known. thank you, mr. raees fard. i will say goodbye to you. goodbye
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. you are very well. greetings to you, greetings to you and to your colleagues , thank you, mr. khorrami, ministry of industry, trade, and commerce, responsible for monitoring the principles of safety and protection of mines. according to this case, why did this happen? yes, i'm glad you're here. i'll explain to the family of the structures of this remangi accident about the technical causes of this accident . and until they make the results of their detailed and expert investigations , we cannot comment on the causes of this incident
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, so we are waiting for the first results of the investigations to be announced in the next few days, and then in this very well, now until the results are clear, we will contact you again in the next few days, mr. khorrami, according to the order of the minister, the mining activity has been stopped. it has been said that the mine operator has also been arrested. is the mine operator correct or not? has been formed and the same technical committee has been formed to ensure that the operation of this mine continues again. an observational incident will not happen, and in fact, the security assurance and that committee should be issued and then the mining activities of this
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mine can be resumed. which consisted of the parliament and the office and work committees, they presented explanations in the meeting , announced their own opinions, announced their opinions to the experts, and now we are investigating . now, due to the absence of a mining supervision office, something that the guests of the program mentioned anyway, how can it be monitored now ? how are these inspections carried out? it's been a while because of the change in the ministry, this part
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is from him. you are very good, mr. samdi, we have 30 seconds let's hear your summary . i would like to see your presence. the first thing that the ministry of mining industry and trade should do is to not see similar incidents in other mines. the first thing is to let the safety equipment enter . haft should enter the country,
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yes. now there is a ban, not a ban at all . see, i wrote that as 800 million dollars of coal is imported annually with the permission of that ministry, please spend less than 20 million dollars on the emergency import of coal mining equipment. he wrote this letter on 24 july 1402. very good opportunity we to the end is over. thank you, mr. hosseini. i am also very grateful to mr. ratfar and mr. khorrami. in any case , if we do not want similar events to happen , we must refer to the principle of the law and observe the law. no, thank you for your time. goodbye.
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