international talks due to the crimes in gaza will be discussed next thursday, october 12, at the fifa council meeting. thank you for your support. today is thursday, october 5, in tehran, sunset will be at 17.5 minutes, maghrib call to prayer will be at 18 minutes, and sharia midnight will be 23.14 minutes. thank you very much for your attention and cooperation. now, the economic desk and my colleagues are with you in this group, mr. big nasb. thank you very much . in the name of god, i greet you, my respected colleagues, and i offer my greetings and politeness to all the viewers of the economic desk program. i told you at the beginning of the news, we want to talk about let's talk about mine safety . let 's take a look at the tragic incident that we witnessed in the last week in tebast mine

. let's not witness it. if you are interested , please follow this discussion with us until the bottom. thank you. you are with the economy desk , we want to talk to you about the issue of material safety monitoring . the latest news is that the search operation was finished yesterday and almost exactly 49 people from we lost our dear compatriots in this accident . we want to review what happened to reach this point and the incident we witnessed before that . the total number of mines in the country in 1401 was a statistic

. we have more than 6,000 mines in the whole country, which is a large number . if we count mining countries , there are almost more than 130 thousand loved ones mine workers are working all over the country . you can almost say that the number has increased . the number of coal mines that we saw was almost 18. you can see that it is compared to all mines . we do not have many coal mines . we did not invest much. we are importing almost a large part of our coal needs, and naturally those imports have not made us come to invest. let's go to the mines obviously, we did not pay much attention to the coal that we discussed. we didn't do anything about it, but

what was the share of coal mine accidents out of the total number of accidents , it was about 26, which means that compared to the total number of mines , one third of all accidents in the mining area were for the mines. coal, if the number of our coal mines is not a number at all compared to the total number of mines, and thanks to your presence in south khorasan, you can see that there are 74 to 870 people working there. a large number means if we take the same assumption that a large part of obviously, our coal mines are a good mine and their safety is not much expected . they have a very large capacity of our workers who may be in danger like the incident we witnessed. at different intervals of the incidents , we see a wave is created, everyone talks and such, but after a while

, it is forgotten again and nothing much is done about it. if you remember, this mine is very clear. 96 yurt mine in erdi was 96, and i am very happy to meet you he said that until now, as we are talking today , 89 very bitter incidents have happened in the country at different intervals, which now i will not reveal much, but from 2016 until now, the statistics tell us that more than 100 of our beloved workers have been killed. we lost mining accidents. these statistics are a lot of statistics. naturally, i am grateful for your presence. the casualties are also a large number. you can count the 100 workers we lost, which means we made 100 housewives homeless. i am grateful for your presence and other events. let's see the next picture together let's take a closer look from 1996 to now that we talked from the first year of 143 until now, when we are talking to each other , we did not have a very good time . it was said that

a series of warnings had been given before about this incident that we witnessed, but they were not taken very seriously. this itself shows that it should be in the field of the system. dear officials, pay more attention , let's see the last picture together. please, one very important point is this statistic that many countries in the world that are active in the field of mining derive a lot of capital and resources from the sale of these materials. minerals are worth 82% of anything else, and they re-invest in the same mine, for example, look at australia, which is a country that uses its mines for almost 50% of the capital. it will return again in mining for china, america and india. it is a smaller number than this, for example, 30 to 40 do this work. how much of this statistic is up to our country? it is a very important question and which institutions are responsible for the safety of our mines. let them monitor, so far this has not happened well

, we want to check this in the program and questions the other things that we will get the answer from our guests , i will prepare a report of my colleagues in the mining group, let's agree and see, we will come back and start our conversation. the first day of autumn started with the departure of the father, the crying eyes of another child , he had been gone for 2 weeks, he was worried , there is no news, the common nightmare of the family, the men of the gas mine exploded, the children were all inside the tunnel, all of them were destroyed, this is the statistics of the statistics center. iran says that during the 139 years of mining in the country, there were only 1400 and 1406 occupational accidents in the year 1400, which is an average

a single occupational accident a day in the coal mines. a gas reservoir is formed in the coal layers , like the calcareous continent, it is normally ventilated. it is normal, they may come across one of these reservoirs once in a while. according to the member of the parliament's industry and mining commission, the figures were decorated with green since 1401. it was a general department for supervision of mines. the general directorate of mines supervision has been closed for some time. and the number of health and safety units present in the mines. out of 625 active mines in the country, only 1407 mines have health units.

the question of where the latest news from the actual follow-up has reached and if we want to have an overview for where did the incident start and where did it end and which one of the devices of the trustees should have been more careful, but which devices did not , i call you allah, the most merciful

, the most merciful. regarding coal , let's first understand the importance of the matter. consider coal like oil. it is a solid substance that can produce a lot of wealth for the country. we have a lot of reserves. we need 3 million tons of coal in thebes alone. that is, if we don't see an increase in the country's needs , we will only have coal in thebes for a thousand years. now in other provinces, we have 147 coal mines, and there are about 10 other provinces , so this is an issue that i want to use this incident to say that we should pay special attention to different discussions of different chains, some of which i will mention here, if this coal itself

let's take the stone seriously, it is a huge wealth for the country, and now we have nearly 800 million in imports, and the stories that i am mentioning now, this is the first point of 800 million. domestic production is what we can do in addition to domestic production , we are strictly exporters for. i told you that we have a great capacity here. the next point of discussion is that coals are divided into four categories depending on the gas that is in different layers. sometimes there is very little gas in one ton of extraction that we want to do, if 5 cubic meters if there is gas, it is not too much, between 5 to 10, 10 to 15 above 15 coal mines that are underground and are used for coking , all of them are class four. it means that you are one of the coals that are very dangerous. one ton harvested

has more than 15 cubic meters of gas there. this is me i will open the parentheses. we see these gases as harmful and dangerous in many countries . you have to do all the work of the gas you take from the gas to produce methane. this is a ready-made methane gas and it can be used very much, that is , we are here now as a damage and as a result. the next thing i want to say here is that there is a tunnel in coal factories they dig it like a book , consider the bottom layer, then consider the next sheets , there are workshops that work there. they pour the coal down, they transport it with these tools , i bring it, we have two kinds of coal mines in the country, or mechanized, there is a mine, which

is traditional. so , what is the difference between a problem that carries this to the outside? for example, a mine in china that produces twice the size of our entire country has a thousand workers . pay attention to the number. we have a mine that is half the size of that mine. we produce the total number of coal miners in the country is around 27,000 workers, that is, about 40 equal to 30 times more manpower, well, in the end , whatever we do, we must observe safety, in the end , there is danger there, it is like any other coal, that is, it catches fire by itself, the gas that is there and the dangers that are there are our first advice and, god willing, the path that we must take in some places which is possible to mechanize these mines and reduce manpower. at the same time, it is increasing productivity and production capacity. another thing i want to say

is that, well, the experience i gained in the dealership usually causes a problem somewhere with an incident. we say, let's go , what should we do to comply with nimnini? based on the experience that i had as a representative for four or five years, we must have had problems dealing with these incidents in the past. we have about 45 and 34 articles for the safety of mines, which are only for mines, and 10 notes, half of which are related to coal, that is, the most detailed regulations and provide all the details. as the parliament, i first thought that there is a need to amend the law, let's make the mining law stricter, no matter what you think about the safety of coals. i saw that if we can comply with this letter , we will definitely not

have an accident here. thank you very much for your introduction. until now , i wanted to say a word about my accident. i will come back to you. until then , mr. allah moradi. the issue now is the ministry of labor, the ministry of the rest of the mining engineering system , how much responsibility do each of them have? what i wanted to say now, in continuation of mr doctor, let me make a short point, and then we will get to your question, which is exactly the problem that we have, by the way, one of the detailed regulations for technical protection that has been approved in the ministry, in the government board, is the same regulation for technical protection of resources, and in this regulation, the regulation it has nearly 300 articles, very detailed, all the details are mentioned in it, and the main issue is exactly that this regulation. what happens when it is not implemented, and now in my second part

i will return to why it is not possible to implement this plan under the current conditions . monitoring the compliance of safety conditions in workshops in general and in mines in particular is the responsibility of the employer in the first instance, and the employer through the technical protection committees and specifically through the safety and health protection officer in the workshop is obliged to carry out his own continuous inspections. do it because before the workshop wants to find activity , it must be approved in each shift. the safety officer of the workshop should be received and then start the operation. the safety officials are required to perform these tests periodically and record them in the safety offices of the workshop at specific time intervals. air quality it should be continuously recorded by the safety officer and now if it is foreseen in some workshops, the person responsible

for checking the air quality should be recorded in the notebook, the time should be recorded, the date should be recorded, the air inside the tunnel and at the entrance of the workshop, the air quality information inside the mine should be included so that anyone who wants to enter the mine knows about the air quality. this should all be in the records. in fact, it is the legal duty of the mining employer to keep this in their records for at least 6 months. look at the things they said here , which are completely true, almost all of them have been observed so far for this mine, for this mine accident. i want to say that it means documenting everything. of course, it should come out completely, according to the statements that the appointment is written , what i wanted to say now, maybe i was in a hurry, that is, for example, if the shift manager goes there with a launcher and says , this is enough, i will let it work, this is done. our discussion was about the fixed sensors and the monitoring room. this means that you must have fixed methane sensors. for whatever

reason, you went there and said, sir , there is no problem here, you can work every shift there. it works for almost 6 hours in that 6 when something happened, there must be a fixed sensor there all the time to monitor it, sound the alarm whenever something happens, give an alarm so that they can evacuate if there is an opportunity, now if there is an explosion , i will explain it. the next point is that the monitoring room, which is everywhere he can see the mine and be able to access each and every workshop from the control room . our weakness here is that something happened to you here. another person will die due to a gap of time, for example , by suffocation. let him know that these were dispossessions that were not here so far, the employer's duties are all in the same law as the work safety law, and it is part of the requirements , that is

, it is not optional. let me tell you that regarding those issues, i also mentioned the duties of the safety officer that the safety officer is responsible for monitoring these issues, the employer is responsible for providing the equipment, the equipment must have a standard certificate, this equipment, which is from the past, cannot detect the percentage of gases. give or to any for any other reason, it must have the standard certificate , the employer is obliged to follow the instructions of all those devices, and the problem that exists here is that if the employer does not follow such issues, of course in the case of the same department responsible for safety, and regarding the fact that a person in charge must be notified before the shift, there was the same issue that some of the workers i spoke with pointed out that before the shift was done and even from the week the former workers feel the problem

keeping them breathing in the mine and even before the last shift in which the accident happened . in fact, the workers who left the previous shift announced that this mine has breathing problems and should be checked, and they even suggested to the workers that you should enter. it was with different literature , now it was a threat, it was a recommendation, in any way , the workers entered that space again and this incident happened . in fact, the workshop where it happened , the workers are not employees of the main employer , they are subcontractors of the project, and the safety officials in the contracting projects are the employees of the contractor , and this does not allow them to have a series of legal accesses, for example, in situations where he recognizes

that the issue it is dangerous and may lead to an accident and stop the work of the workshop. but here, due to the fact that the trustee himself is an employee of the contractor and does not have bargaining power, there is no tool against the contractor who wants to exercise power against the contractor's order. no, in order for him to be able to stop the activity of the workshop by his own will and based on his own diagnosis , that is, the issue of being a contractor's employee and a safety official also creates a conflict of interest there . thank you very much. we also had a party. mrs. nemati is with us in the other studio, mrs. nemati, send me your question , i can complete your question, you asked for the devices . under 25 people must have a fendi supervisor ok, from the ministry, it is clear that the employer nominates one person, with those conditions, it is confirmed that he is always present in the mine

, and he gives me the right to work as a technical supervisor, that is, if there are more than 25 people, and this mine was like this, they say about there are 1,700 people , there should be more than 25 people. another person has a safety issue , which they say is a scam, which is related to the ministry of labor approved by them. whose job is to determine the safety of the work. in addition to these two, who have a technical officer, there is a safety officer, and the safety officer himself may have several forces there mine, i say that we had 47 people, which was not one workshop because there were several workshops. there is another thing, which is that it conducts periodical visits to the ministry of mines, according to article 100 of the mines code, the ministry of mines conducts periodical visits to mines, especially mines. you can do this with the help of the mining engineering system, which is like this in our country , that is, the executive arm of mining supervision with the

engineering system according to the contract they have. the other one belongs to the ministry my work is the same. for example, the last visit of the ministry of labor was this summer. or, the engineer of the mining engineering system had visited last year . it had been a year this year. in fact, it should have been done . there were also numerous problems that we are here now . continue the work from the point of view of the engineering system or actually the ministry . this is almost the division of labor in these mines from the point of view of the government supervisors. thank you very much for your explanation, mrs. nemati.

i said that we are looking at the statistics, obviously now we have looked at the discussion from 2016 until now and we can see from the beginning of the year until now that in your report it was of course that the incidents of the placement of our coal mines are not few incidents and they are constantly repeating this. pathology has been done and the reasons. yes, i would like to say hello to you , guests of the program. yes, it was mentioned both in the report and in mr. taheri's speech that now the debates that have not actually been developed, perhaps we can say that coal mines have created reasons , but i want to point out. so far the subject that in the reports about coal mines, we focused on them. it has been done. there is one issue with all our mines . of course, there is the question of the extraction method, which is traditional in our mines. still, we should

move towards intelligent mining more than it is and get help from the knowledge of mineral foundations for solving all these problems, which is actually the contribution of knowledge bases, which we see very little in the mineral discussions of companies. scientists who work in the field of mining and this is harmful. now, in coal mines , this issue has more special conditions the type of extraction that mr. doctor explained, the discussion that we have the accumulation of gases in the coal layers and the possibility of its explosion, always going towards these modern machines and modern technologies, using knowledge bases will definitely help. yes, it will definitely help us to reduce these problems a lot and actually make the mines smart, just like

we have in other countries in our coal mines. the number of deaths was also in other countries, but the use of this is actually machinery this happened because of the lack of development of our iron ore mines . the first victim of lack of development is safety, and unfortunately, the events we see have been repeated since the year 2016, which was mentioned. actually, we had yorto winter mines after last year , it was again in tazreh damghan in kerman , unfortunately we had some problems and this has caused us to have a group of our dear workers in these mines. let's lose the mines. thank you very much for your explanation , ms. nemati hosseini is also established, the expert of the program, mr. seyed

hosseini, is a guest. the program of both mr. taheri and mr. allah moradi mentioned the duties of the institutions, but the point is that the omissions were also mentioned . what is the executive guarantee of these progressive laws that mr. taheri refers to, which are written in various and very complete materials? because some of the events that we are talking about happened in the same mine , it seems that it was the negligence of the employer and the non-implementation of the detailed regulation that we are talking about. in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful, with greetings and respect to the dear guests of the program dear viewers, while offering my condolences to the survivors of this tragic accident, i would like to take a broader view of the issue and not just see this recent incident

. the issue of mining, in fact , the legislator has specified a series of duties for the government ministry, which is represented by the ministry of industry, trade and ministry of cooperatives, and also for some organs and institutions that are obliged to provide public services, such as the mining engineering system organization, which in the field of drafting and approving the laws, regulations and regulations of the system organization engineering morden ministry of position. and the supreme council of technical protection especially have a common duty. the supreme council of technical protection , in fact, once in 1379 and the second time in 2011 illustrated the safety regulations in mines , according to article 2 of the mine engineering system law, the organization of the engineering system has the same duty in actually ted.

the goal is society and technological progress. for example , i want to give you a concrete example: in march 1379, when the supreme technical protection council approved a regulation in mines, we did not have a discussion called monitoring in mines, zaghalsen mines, but 10 years later, 11 years later, in 1391 this ritual the letter was amended in article 384, explicitly discussed.

coal mines have been approved to prevent life-threatening incidents and protect the health of workers. it seems that in such incidents, we should not only be the employer, the worker, and the mine officials, which now includes both the technical officer and the occupational health and safety officer. o mine supervisor , we should not only consider these things and hold all the members responsible. that somehow the legislator has made them responsible, including being responsible for establishing laws and regulations, and being responsible for continuous monitoring and monitoring of compliance with those laws, all of these are responsibilities. it is, and in relation to the omissions that god forbid actually commit in this context , i should be held accountable for the recent incident, considering that

we have heard this a lot. the possibility of danger for coal mines is very, very high, and according to what has been said , the control of this methane gas is actually in the form of disposal. it enters the mining tunnels. apparently , it is an accepted thing in terms of the fact that one of the possible risks of this work is the extraction of coal mines . technical next after 12 years have passed, there should be a review in the regulations of these mines.