yes, as i said, in this program , i will talk more about iran's standard issue with the guests of the program. mr. mustafa taheri, a member of the islamic council's industry and trade commission , is our guest in this program. mr. mahmoud hashemi, vice president. national standards organization and head of iran's national certification center and mr. mohammad amin haj kazemian, an economic activist who will be at their service during the program. i have prepared the report, my friends, we will come back and start the conversation . a product needs quality and standard evaluation for supply. these evaluations in it was valid inside the country. however, exporters outside. from the borders of iran

, they had to reassess the goods with additional costs, but now , with a test and an inspection, it can circulate freely all over the world, and this is actually one of the works that we say happened for this membership in this union, iran. and in other words , iran's national accreditation center was internationally recognized and recognized as an international agency, and finally, this can actually be an inspector for the industry. the test can actually give a great international look anyway success was achieved in the first step with iran's membership in the asia-pacific union's accreditation and certification body. the value of this work brings economic benefits to the country , prevents the withdrawal, and makes the islamic republic a province. high technical power to issue certificates

of other countries in the region. iran's membership in the international laboratory accreditation organization with the abbreviated name of ilac marked another step towards the improvement of the country's standardization system. we provide services that allow us to register contracts and place orders. let's even move our money well, it wasn't. we had to have our certificates. we sell our services very cheaply, but now we can charge for the real price and the value of our services. from an economic point of view, it can actually be a source of income for us when we export engineering inspection services and non-destructive testing services. there is a country that can expand a lot in the field of business , now with the globalization of iran's signature and technical approval in the international arena. but besides the positive impact of 20

billion dollars on the country's annual exports, it has prevented 50 million dollars from leaving the country. nurturing noon radio news agency. yes, thank you, mrs. parvesh. mr. hashemi, let's start with you. what is the status of membership in this union now? anyway, are the certificates received by the goods in iran valid in other countries or not? in the name of allah, the most merciful and the most merciful , i offer greetings, courtesy and respect to your excellency and all dear viewers, as well as the respected expert of the membership program of the islamic republic of iran since the beginning of 1403 in the international union of laboratory qualification verification . after joining ifer. to ilk

we applied and finally the process was completed by july 4th and the mutual recognition arrangement was signed. ipec, which you say is asian, ipec is asia and the pacific, it is the asia pacific regional accreditation union or ipec, and it is the international laboratory accreditation union or ilac. in the accreditation system in the world, 11 countries participate in more than 160 accreditation bodies. when a country or its accreditation body becomes a member of these bodies , the result of inspection and certification is trusted all over the world.

compliance will be done. well, alhamdulillah, i must proudly say that the islamic republic of iran has successfully become a member of the assemblies after 27 years. international or the international union to confirm the qualification of ilc laboratory, and this process, as i said , they allowed us to share these mutual arrangements with our conformity assessment institutions , and we announced this to everyone all over the country . institutions are doing those requirements and actually the process that they have to do and some are doing it and this work has been done. once a product is tested in our country, it won't be tested in other countries, it won't be inspected, time-wasting costs won't happen for that product, product or service. very well, this can

even reduce costs and reduce time anyway. now we will go to economic activists, mr. haj kazemian, they are also economic activists, they can do better. help us , mr. taheri. is this standard alignment with export target markets included in the country's standard system , that is, if we have a mandatory standard for a product, we put it in another country as well. is this acceptable or not, are we being strict or not, are we taking it too easy, in the name of allah , the most merciful, the most merciful ? the discussion regarding the standard is a bit broad. now i will answer your question quickly. we both have strengths, we have made good progress, and we have setbacks, and the challenges and problems that we should strengthen our strengths, god willing, are proud to show, and some

weaknesses. which still exists in the same international field, the question that you asked me i remember that in the previous parliament, one of the things that we were trying to approve was the membership of the parliament . fortunately, a big step has been taken, although there is room for now, it is only limited to asia and ghianousia. we hope, god willing, that this work will continue. they say it has become global, it is done, not ipco, i say that for asia and the pacific, not ielc, it is global, i do not say ielc laboratories, not laboratories. what we are talking about is called the laboratory system , which includes both inspections and tests , which are now my certificates . a lot of merits. only now in your merits, you

mentioned more about exports, that there is no need for the people who export to go to the destination country to prove that they have done something. it could be the other way around. we now had an inherent problem in the field of imports , because of the restrictions of the laws. when a product entered the country , it did not meet our standards for a long time, for example, it was needed, despite the fact that the standard of that country may be superior, higher and stronger than this, but anyway, the regulation law now with this membership means that it can facilitate the opposite. do the work in import now in our so-called standards, do we have to go in line with the whole world? to the question you asked me, my answer is definitely yes wherever we have the capacity, and our goal must be in that direction, which means we should not underestimate ourselves. let's say that we should

have lower standards, but we should also consider the realities , that is, the realities of our own country from the technical point of view and other issues of sanctions and power. buying people and everything that may be considered, we must consider and act according to it, there is a compulsion in international terms that must be followed. to do it means you want to export something , you can't say i have a limit, i want to export it with a lower standard, but it's not possible, but for our own use, that means we put the standards we want inside or the standards we want in the import wherever possible. yes, we must do it in accordance with higher standards, if not according to our country's international standards, and even if we have more capacity , this is common in the world, for example, india's own standards are not the same as those of countries such as america and europe, according to the purchasing power of the people and the progress in the automobile industry is moving forward, but it

is forward, that is, i improve it every year , we must take this into account, very well, mr. haj kazemian, an economic activist is also with us, mr. haj kazemian, tell me what the situation is now, this is iran's membership in can the international union of laboratory accreditation help exporters or not? in the name of allah, the most merciful, the most merciful, i also offer greetings and courtesy to the viewers of this program , to the dear guests of this program, and to the respected host , god willing, may all of you be in good health. thank you as an exporter who i have been engaged in exporting to five continents for at least 3 decades of my life. i can say frankly that exports do not need standards anywhere in the world. because the exporter himself, the investor himself,

the capital owner himself, the producer himself, the one who takes risks and exports goods from his own country to five continents , he takes care of his goods more than others. so i insist on this sentence with diligence. export anywhere in the world. it does not need a standard, but on the other hand, there are imports that need a standard . in addition, i am grateful that many of our contacts may have an accurate definition of the subject he does not know the standard. standard means the minimum , that is, the minimum specifications, now we can say the technicality of a product that should be consumed safely. in fact, the manufacturer should not face a crisis and ensure the health of the consumer

. now note that the country is under embargo. we are indeed in an economic war. the whole world is on one side and we alone are trying to get our share of iranian goods in international markets. let's open up in these conditions of economic war, in these conditions of economic war, so we all must come to help each other. let's support the economic chief who is studying land and preparing land for the country, but unfortunately, unfortunately, we do not see much support from the national standard organization. i am not talking about just agricultural products. i want

to say that there are many loved ones who work hard, love, and are really together to facilitate the export process. but the process defined by our national standard organization is also time-consuming. also see the important point, i say time means we to the ships. we fail to pay attention to the fact that when we say sanctions imposed against our country, we mean us we have a problem with cash transportation . if we miss a ship, there may not be a ship for a month and other stories we have . can the exporter count on the help and assistance of the national standard organization ? gender? this is a process of time. now you want to be more clear about the matter. now

, mr. hashemi is also there. let me explain. yes , see the first issue. i clearly stated at the beginning of my application that anywhere in the world, i am ready to discuss this matter in person with each of our loved ones in the organization. let me talk about the national standard, renew together let's participate in the evening when i say goods anywhere in the world. exports need to be simple and do not need to be standardized. this is a truth. now pay attention to this article. when we talk about the food industry in the world, a jfs standard is designed for food safety. designed in the world. that is , in order to increase its share in the export target markets, the producer must conform to international standards. he must get these certificates. in sand. in medical equipment, we have a certificate of service

our producer should get a certificate of service, if he doesn't get it, it's useless. i want to tell you this in this way, while respecting all the efforts of the national standard organization, while respecting all the dear ones who are helping me, i can be an exporter in the export markets. they have more to say, but our biggest problem is that the national standard organization insists on formulating a process and imposing a process on the exporter that has no place at all from the arabs . the name of the iranian exporting company should be on the export product it is a big mistake to include it on your export product . this is a big mistake. it is also a big mistake in the world of embargo. the door is open to iranian products, but

he does not want to insist that the name of the iranian exporter is known . haj kazemian, let's ask this, mr. hashemi, what is the reason for this? he pointed out that standards are meaningless in the world. this is not the case . they themselves pointed out that in the jurisdiction of safety standards, see the national standards organization, or basically, standards in the world, its philosophy is based on safety health and quality products and services correctly speaking, the person who produces is responsible for the quality, safety and health of a product and service, when a product from our country is being exported to third countries, it wants to preserve its credibility and iranian identity, pointing out that only in the import of this entry happens. other countries

in the world, like us , have certain limits on their own imports. they say that these must be observed . it is not possible to verify the trust of a product that is going to enter a country without verifying it and validating it. to accept it in that country through the inspection test another point is that the national standards organization has maximum interaction with the private sector. to update the standards, i would like to inform you that until september of this year, about 35 standards have been compiled, and in the last 3 years, about 29,000 standards have been revised, focusing on health, safety and quality. the standard in this sense is meaningless , no, of course, what they are saying is that the producer and the exporter are aware of this matter, the whole

story was because the assurance of this assurance that this quality and this health is maintained is the same process that i i said in the world and sadi sari and current accreditation bodies in the world are basically formed for this reason. now, how do you see this long process ? answer this piece only this part. this name you say must be from the manufacturer. what is the reason for this? this process is one of the requirements. there is a product and service that wants to be exported. after all, the credit of this product needs to be monitored . who produced it? i respect all the hard work that our loved ones in our government and in our government organizations are doing, but

i am saying frankly that i believe that the issue is being directed in another direction. in the world of sanctions, in the world of sanctions, where no one can have banking transactions or financial transactions with me, an iranian exporter , it is wrong to insist that the name of the exporter appear on the packaging, because that foreign buyer, that foreign importer, the money goes to foreign parties. foreign exporters should deposit, because the money must come to a company's account. foreigner, the name of that foreign company should preferably be written on the packaging. this is what we insist on . you see, i am talking about this. it is a time when we say, sir, it is an iranian product, mr. haj kazemian. maybe many people want to write the name of their iranian company. there is no problem, but don't oblige. let the minimum outcome of our meeting today is that

there is a correct understanding of the conditions of the embargo. we know what conditions we are in in the foreign markets . then accept it. accept it. say, sir , we will set a condition. we will accept one condition. if the exporter sees the benefit of his organization in putting the name of his foreign company on the packaging , let us give him this permission . thank you, mr. taheri. what is your opinion? i want to see kazemi if we we are sure that in the countries we want to export to , it is mandatory that they check the standard, and the exporting party from the country where this is iran must have this, so we don't have to worry. let's say that we have to force. well , when there is force from that side, he is forced to present the certificate, he comes and takes this standard. it is possible that we have many of these. i don't want

to name the countries and bring the goods that we need. it is not possible, and it is possible to collect foreign currency and carry out this export, which means that both the country and the country are being exported everything is a process and there is no need for that path . now i have many examples in my mind. i have goods after goods, and the customer is ready to pay for everything in dollars , just for example, we were once producing a car, then the 85th standard said that this car should not be produced, there was a customer in another country . we used to say no, you don't have 85 coins, you can't export them, my dad said that this is not for iran anymore, it is going to another country, he also wants this, this is his letter, everything is fine , he is right, when it comes to exporting, it is really the country. there is no standard, it accepts a lower standard . we should not oblige. yes, in places where the exporter needs this, we should really help

him. we will give it at an appropriate time this year. i had it for the ministry of jihad in the summer, not for the standard department. this means part of the approvals that were in our thread , he had prepared the product when they gave him the certificate that this , for example, could be issued in terms of quality or now because of the process in which the product was damaged , he had taken action earlier, that is, the entire representative. he was involved that god if this is possible do it for me, for example, in a week or two . i have examples that in the accreditation discussion at the national center , we had a delay of up to 8 months. for these, this is my time. it is a reality. it must be resolved and the time to shorten this process is now. this flexibility is standard in the organization, this is the issue that has been raised. national standard is ready

to solve this problem as far as possible in any issue that the private sector is involved in for export for its own business. yes, i am telling you right now that we are ready to follow up on the same topics, if there are any discussions on the same topic, where the law allows us , we will definitely do this to the time process that you mentioned for accreditation. in the world, the accreditation process takes 8 to 12 months. in the world, the accreditation systems take 8 to 12 months . in the islamic republic of iran, this process took up to 30 months before 1400, but in the last 3 years, especially in the last year, 8 months and 8 days of this process and finally ten months of this the process is going to be completed, we are even lower than the limit of the global time process, despite the fact that

we do not have the human capital that the world has, but with jihadi work with more effort, this happened, the time can be less, we should be an example in the world . the shorter the month , it can sometimes be a lack of compliance from the international community for our collection. we have some institutions for 6 months or 7 months in those domains that are for the first time and there has been no renewal. 6 months or 8 months, 6 months or 5 this process has been completed this month, mr. haj kazemian, this is a long process you also mentioned what challenges it creates for the exporter. i would like to clarify this point again to the dear viewers and guests of the program , our expectations from the national standards organization. encouragement and promotion is to encourage our producers to produce quality products based on

international standards that include the health of our consumers. it can be an organization , that is, a national standard organization . currents of the day. to promote the international , say in today's world, in the issue of medical products there is such a standard, my dear, producers , exporters, let's get to know each other, let's help establish these current standards in the organization's structure . it is defined as 8 months, there is no problem, but for the organization, not for my export product, which is caught in bandar arab, and considering that we now

have many premium sample or national sample exporters who have been operating for decades, this standard check process sometimes it will take up to 7 days, 8 days, 10 days, and not only will we lose our markets we give, but they eliminate the target markets of our exports, so i want to correct this . when we say how long accreditation takes, it is 8 months. for the organization, for the manufacturer, not for the export product, let's believe that if a product is going to be exported from the country, if the product produced by that manufacturer has a standard mark, then it will be done faster , but for many products that we don't need a mandatory standard. they can

actually be approved at the ports in the customs in a shorter process. placed standard office take it and let the goods actually enter its export cycle, mr. hashemi mentioned that in the discussion of the response time, he mentioned 7 days, according to the statistics published last year by the national standard organization, sometimes less than 7 days for these test results. answers or inspections , but some tests take time, maybe 22 days, 10 days. 11 days is not possible to get out of that schedule, but usually more than 85 are answered in less than 7 days. this time being in the laboratories is related to the equipment related to the testing equipment. these are all accreditations. passing all the requirements of testing , environmental conditions, equipment, knowledge, technical skills

, we have no problem in that part. look, out of the 35,000 standards that i mentioned , maybe 2,000 to 3,000 standards are mandatory , and the rest of the standards are incentive standards that the national organization for standards in all the standard compilations of the private sector or related and specialized institutions. in this field , mr. taheri, who is the executive of developing these standards , we do not have some laboratories or some capabilities that we should have in testing some goods inside the country. for example, there is the question of the car, we do not have road test for it, yes, and the car must be transported to another country at great expense, have the tests taken there, and come back

. should we go inside the country or should we go to equip our laboratories now? before i answer hazrat ali's question regarding the previous discussion , while thanking and trusting the words of our dear brother, forgiveness is not acceptable to me because i was involved with my province. the test process is really long and there is another product no, it was lost in agricultural products, that is , the result was really like this. yes, there was a time when the exporter was late and took a day off . it is no longer possible to export that process, what is the point , and the same test process must be of the same product, it cannot be given earlier, that is,

it is exported from the product. removing it . now i will give you an example. in the summer of this year, i had a conversation about the equipment you are right, for example, in the case of our car , there are four of the 85 requirements related to accidents and safety, which in my view are the most important because it is about the health and life of people, there is an accident from the front, there is an accident from a side accident, there is the recovery of the car, and actually the safety of the passerby. it is pedestrian, well, fortunately, after these standards. at least 6% of our accidents are fatal, and these have decreased, which means it has had an impact, but you are right, sometimes we are facing problems here, for a long time , we have a lot of money due to the lack of formation of the police stations. sometimes it is more than that , we want a standard from a take a place we used to be an importer from there, i remember you.