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but it's called "spotlight." and it's a very heavy story. but the way you guys did it, it's so -- well, tell a little bit about what it is about. >> let's see. it's basically an investigation that the "boston globe's" special investigative wing spotlight t d to uncover the priest molestation scandals in boston. and how it led up to the boston archdiocese, cardinal law, and even up into a cover-up that goes all the way to the vatican. it shocked the entire world at the time. and really, it's a story that i think a lot of us knew but when you get inside of the investigation and you see how well journalism works when it works and you see what it's like to track down a story and take every lead. it's really quite exciting. and because it's an
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investigation to get away from the salacious nature of it, which, you know -- i mean, at the bottom of it, it's priests raping kids and there's a massive cover-up, it's horrible. but we're led down it with so much intellect and dispassion, the way a real investigation goes, that it allows the audience to goal that journey without getting theic ick factor. there's no doubt in your mind that what happened happened. and it was monumentally wrong. and i think this movie will give the thousands of victims have come out since this, will give these people andndhe catholic church a chance to start to heal the wounds that were opened up scandal. [ cheers and applause ] see it. i remember the story and i remember when it happened. but the specifics, to be overwhelming.
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it's overwhelming. the fact that t t outcome -- i don't want tooalk about the outcome. but people know what the story is. justice really wasn't necessarily served. >> not necessarily, no. >> jimmy: yeah. >> and i think with this pope and people being awake to this now, i think we're in a particular place where justice could be served. >> jimmy: we have a clip from the movie. do you need to say anything aboutt this before we show it? >> no. >> jimmy: okay. from "spotlight," take a look. >> so i could walk into that courthouse right now and get those documents? >> no. you cannot. because the documents are not there. >> but you just said they're public. >> i know i did. but this is boston. and the church does not want them to be found. so they are not there. >> rich, are you telling me that the catholic church removed legal documents from that courthouse? >> look. i'm not crazy. i'm not paranoid. i'm experienced.
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you'll see. it will show everything. >> jimmy: the great stanley tucci and mark ruffalo. he was great in the movie. i don't want to leave anybody out. michael keaton was fantastic also. are you of the age that working with michael keaton is like the >> are you kidding me? i literally crapped my pants. i was so nervous working with him. but i -- because i watched him growing up. >> jimmy: of course, yeah. >> i had a very uncomfortable moment with him. >> jimmy: you did? please share it with us. >> so funny you would ask that. i was -- we were rehearsing and i was gogog to -- he said, why don't you walk me home? so i said sure. god, michael keaton, yeah. we're walking. hey, it's so amazing this kind ofenaissance that you're
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he's like, what renaissance? well, you know, this kind of like -- this -- uh, this kind of comeback you're having, it's amazing. he's like, comeback? i never knew i left. i had ten more blocks of this. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: your balls busted by betelgeuse. it's wonderful to have you here. "spotlight" opens in theaters friday. we'll be right back! >> dicky: portions of "jimmy kimmel live" brought to you by
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still to come, constance wu and color me bradd. it's the middle of the night. before you fall asleep guillermo would like to tell you a bedtime story about the fascinating history of crown royal history which was made for a king. here it is the complete and completely accurate history of crown royal. >> guillermo: good evening. once upon a time there was a handsome king. and a beautiful queen lady. one day the king say, we should
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>> this is the best whiskey in the world! i will not feed you to a dragon. i love you. >> i love you too. >> and they lived happily ever after. true story. >> dicky: crown royal, the one made for a king. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: we'll be right back with constance wu! [ cheers and applause ] there are things we expect from a phone screen we expect it to be ridged.
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>> jimmy: still to come, music from color me bradd. if you've always wanted to visit the magical time and place known as orlando in the mid-1990s you don't need a time machine to be there. "fresh off the boat" airs tuesdays at 8:30 here on abc. please say hello to constance wu. [ cheers and applause ] very good to have you here. and congratulations on the show. it's very popular, very funny. it's doing very well.
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>> jimmy: you came out of nowhere. were you doing sketch comedy? >> well, somewhere. >> jimmy: evevyone comes out of somewhere. but what were you doing beforee this? did you do like -- sketch comedy that sort of thing? >> i have never done a comedy before, really, ever. so i was kind of like terrified. i did like drama. >> jimmy: drama stuff, wow. >> in fact, my very first job ever in college was when i was on "law and order svu." >> j jmy: in college? prostitute. [ cheers and applause ] >> i'm known for the underage prostitute part more? >> jimmy: probably for both. >> or for the leaps and bounds i made to go from derage prostitute to mother of three. time to become a mother, right? >> jimmy: that's exactly right. >> i don't have know. >> jimmy: did you on that show -- were you like a victim prostitutete >> you know, i actually wasn't a prostitute. >> jimmy: oh.
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and, you know, i knew i could be an actor because i had to say a line that was very difficult to say. and like make it believable. >> jimmy: what was the line? >> i was a sullen teenager right? "well, i saw the wedding ring on his fifier but it felt t ke partyingng it's not that big of a deal." [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> it get like partying! >> jimmy: this wasn't a comedy? >> no. because then connie nielsen, she killed." and i had to turn itt around. >> jimmy: right. >> oh, chris saved me from >> jimmy: are you having fun -- the show is based loosely on a >> yes. >> jimmy: a memoir. and have you met the woman whom you play? >> yes, it's based on a real live woman named jessica huang
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watching. >> jimmy: is anyone e ally living in orlando? i think the only people who >> jimmy: maybe you're right. living. >> jimmy: does she come to the >> oh no. >> jimmy: no, okay, good. that happened. her? i met her at her home. >> jimmy: oh. >> in orlando. which is very lavish. which matches her very lavish personality. >> yeah. >> jimmy: you're kind of stern on the show, the character. is she that way? >> you know, i think she is very stern but she's older. our show takes place in the '90s so i think her sternness is -- was probably tougher in the '90s preteen boys. >> jimmy: gotcha, yeah. >> now she's like rich and can just buy a lot of diamonds and fancy handbags. so if you can, then i guess you do.
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that's what i learned from her. >> jimmy: i must ask you about this photograph. you had shaquille o'neal a costar on the show. >> a very small one. >> jimmy: how did you enjoy acting with shaq? >> i enjoy -- enjoy is not necessarily the world. >> jimmy: what is the word? >> i think i was entertained by it. you've got to understand, shaq is this guy -- >> jimmy: he's the best. >> no holds barred. >> jimmy: he's a goofball. >> yeah, i think a wardrobe person was fixing his shoe and he just reached over, touched his head. and he goes, "man, let go, you're losing your hair, i is gone." and there was a sound guy who had like really nice cavslf calves so he kept calling him mr. cavs. he kept telling me he'd marry me, one stipulation. i had to be a size 0 or 2.
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>> jimmy: you probably are, right?>> i am and i ain't goto ring, i don't know. that's how you know. he's all talk. >> jimmy: would you consider marrying shaq? >> well, i got to see if he could get down on one knee, which he'd still be taller than me. >> jimmy: he would. here's the picture. what i love about this picture -- [ laughter ] everyone is looking at a different camera. there's no coordination there. was this before or after he >> i don't know. you know what, though? the nicest guy ever. and equal opportunity proposer. >> jimmy: what do you mean? >> like he was proposing to everything. >> jimmy: oh. oh, you weren't the only one. >> if a basketball fit into a knees. he was all about it. >> jimmy: if shaq married a basketball and then they had a baby together, how good a player
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would that kid be? [ laughter ] >> they'd have to change the sport. like it wouldn't even -- >> jimmy: they'd have to raise the basket. it's very nice to meet you. congratulations on the show. [ [ eers and applause ] "fresh off the boat" airs tuesday nights at 8:30 here on abc. constance wu, everybody. thank you, constance. when we return mash-up monday music from "color me bradd." [ cheers and applause ] >> dicky: the "jimmy kimmel
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presented by samsung. >> dicky: the "jimmy kimmel presented by samsung. >> jimmy: i'd like to thank mark ruffalo, constance wu, apologies to matt damon we ran out of time. "nightline" is next but first, kicking off this month's mash-up monday series the weird way, color me bradd! [ cheers and applause ] tick tock and you don't stop to the tick tock and you don't stop to the tick tock and you don't stop to the
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tick tock and you don't stop to the m ooh ooh ooh ooh oohh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh come inside take off your coat i'll make you feel at home now let's pour a glass of wine 'cause now we're all alone i've been waiting all night so just let me hold you close to me 'cause i've been dyin' for you girl and make love to me ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh girl you make me feel real good ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh we can do it 'til we both wake up ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh girl you know i'm hooked on you ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh and this is what i'll do ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh wanna sex you up
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all night you make me feel real good ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh i wanna sex you up let me take off all your clothes disconnect the phone so nobody knows let me light a candle so that we can make it better makin' love untiwe drown ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh note girl you know it feels real good ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh we can do it 'til ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh girl you know i'm hooked on you ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh and this is what i'll do ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh i wanna sex you up
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i want to makeoff to you i wanna sex you up this is "nightline." >> tonight, inside the saga of robert durst. the multi-millionaire real estate heir and the start of "the jinx." his wife disappeared without a trace. could he board have been right here the whole time? >> she is here. there's no doubt in my mind that she's here. >> tonight the former prosecutor justice.e. >> he should be shot in the back of the head and his body should everyone else. welcome to the victorian life. at first it was fash then she was hooked.
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trust, does your food go good evening. we begin tonight with the wealthy real estate heir whose wife, friend and neighbor all died in mysterious circumstances. we're talking of course about none other than robert durst. abc's ryan smith met the woman on a mission to find out what really happened to his first wife. however long it takes. >> every time i come out here i think, she's here. her spirit is here and she's waiting for someone to find him. >> reporter: for janine this bleak stretch of land is sacred ground. the former prosecutor is showing me the area in south jersey where she believes kathleen durst is buried. >> she is here. there's no doubt in my mind that she's here. and the family deserves to be able to bury her in a place of respect and dignity. >> reporter: she was the first wife of robert durst, the troubled millionaire scion at the center of two murders and a disappearance. kathleen vanished into thin air. his best friend found shot in the head.
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his neighbor who he admits to killing and dismembering. >> i know there is intense interest. >> reporter: she says durst should be held responsible. what do you think should happen to him? >> he should be shot in the back of the head and his body dismembered hike he did to everyone else. >> reporter: she's credited with reopening kathleen's cold case, a move that may have set in motion the other killings. the hbo documentary series "the jinx" he sat down for an interview -- >> did not tell the whole truth, nobody tells the whole truth. >> reporter: the series ended with a shocking scene. audio of durst alone in the bathroom. muttering to himself with what some consider a confession. all recorded on his open microphone. >> what the hell did i do? killed them all, of course. >> i said to myself, of course you did. i knew it from the day they walked in my office in 1999.
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the man killed her. >> when you saw that moment you thought, got him? >> oh, big-time got him. >> reporter: the series and the shocking scene helped inspire pirro to write "he killed them all." in the book out this week she gives an insider's account of the durst saga. >> i had my investigators come here with a tracker. i mean, there are many ways to tray to find a body. >> reporter: pirro says she's been coming here since kathleen's cold case landed her desk in the westchester da's office. >> you said when you looked into this case you couldn't not feel a connection to her. >> yeah. >> why? >> we were in law school, medical school respectively, at about the same time. we went to some of the same night spots. there was so much about her that i just connected with her. and she never left my mind. >> reporter: beautiful and ambitious, the fourth-year med student and durst lived the quiet life. until she vanished one night in january 1982. >> kathleen durst goes to her friend's house, robert is
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reputedly calling her. so she leaves that night. she leaves and goes home. that. >> reporter: reading kathleen's file, pirro said she immediately suspected durst. >> the woman is weeks ay from graduating medical school, married to a wealth iowa guy,y guy who doesn't report her missing for five days. >> did you have anything to do >> no. i don't know where she is, i don't know what happened to her, i don't know how it hpened to her. >> reporter: his story at the time corroborated by the doorman and elevator operator of the durst-owned building, both claiming to have seen her that night. when the police investigation turned up no signs of foul play, the case went cold. >> it was not the investigation that anyone would expect in a family like this whose daughter-in-law or sister-in-law or wife disappeared. do you think today, god forbid, if trump's daughter-in-law were missing that there would be two articles in the newspaper and
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that would be the end of it? not a chance. >> reporter: 18 years later, operating on a tip, pirro said her team started from scratch. >> do you think she returned here that night? >> there is not a chance she returned here that night. i would bet my house on it. >> reporter: they went to employees. >> when we come back, 18 years later, one is dead. one retracts his statement and said, that's not true. >> reporter: pirro said she heard claims from kathleen's friends that there was trouble in the durst marriage and she was seeking a divorce. >> she turned to me and said, promise me if something happens to me you'll check it out. i'm afraid of what bobby might do. >> reporter: in 2001, kathleen's brother jim mccormack told abc news about an incident that unnerved him. >> at mom's house, he grabbed kathy by the hair, started pulling her out of the room by the hair. >> reporter: years later, durst himself was candid about their tumultuous relationship. >> the life was half arguments, fighting, slapping, pushing,
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wrestling. >> reporter: in 2000 pirro's team searched the lake near durst's country home for kathleen's body but found nothing. durst was asked about that search. >> what were the divers for? >> obviously looking for body part s part. >> he says body parts. i said, oh my god, he chopped her up as well! >> reporter: here is where pirro thinks durst buried those body parts. shortly after kathleen's disappearance her friends found a list in durst's trash with the words including "town dump, bridge, dig, boat, shovel." pirro claims it's a road was that to the pine barrens in south jersey. >> this is town road on route 9, the bridge to nowhere. he would have been familiar with this area as a dumping ground. >> reporter: an area she says the durst organization was considering for development at the time. three weeks after pirro's
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investigation became public, another mysterious death. robert durst's best friend susan berman, the woman who served as his spokesperson after kathleen's appearance, shot in the back of the head execution-style in her los angeles home. so why do you believe robert durst killed susan berman? >> because she knew too much. robert durst knew it would be inevitable that i would want to speak to susan. >> reporter: but not everyone agrees with pirro's account here. last month her former co-author, lisa dipaulo, filed a lawsuit claiming among other things that pirro fired her when she raised accuracy issues, a claim pirro >> everything in that book was accurate. i know, i was there. >> reporter: following susan's murder in 2000 durst goes underground, moving to texas, disguising himself as a mute woman until a fisherman in galveston bay finds a garbage bag washed up on the shore. >> i was shocked to see that there was a torso. no head, no legs, no arms.
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>> reporter: other bags containing arms and legs were found. the head, still missing. the victim, 71-year-old morris black, robert durst's neighbor. durst was arrested and tried for murder. >> good morning. you may all be seated. >> reporter: at the trial, durst admitted to killing morris black and dismembering his body but claimed that it was all done in self-defense. >> why do you think that robert durst killed morris black? >> robert durst only kills when he has to. robert durst is a calculating man. he knows when he's in a danger zone. that's when he kills. >> reporter: killing black is the only crime durst ever confessed to. an admission pirro says should have been a slam dunk for a murder conviction. but durst's team mount an ambitious defense starring pirro. >> bob was driven from new york by a politically ambitious woman. >> reporter: the defense strategy paid off. >> this half-wit jury in texas bought it. >> we the jury find the
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defendant robert durst not guilty. >> reporter: durst served time for three lesser crimes, including bond jumping, and was paroled in 2005. he lived mostly out of the public eye until he decided to participate in "the jinx." >> why do you think robert durst did "the jinx"? >> because he's an ego maniac, he wants attention. he wants to prove he can get away with things. >> reporter: on the eve of the final episode of "the jinx" durst was arrested in new orleans for the murder of susan berman, where law enforcement found him apparently trying to flee with over $42,000 in cash and a revolver loaded with live rounds. we've reached out to robert durst's legal team but have not received a response. durst has been in prison in new orleans since march and is waiting to be transferred to los angeles to answer to charges that he murdered susan berman. for pirro she says the story isn't over until durst is held rereonsible for kathleen's disappearance. the one case that started it all.
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>> some people say that you have a personal vendetta against robert durst. >> i have a personal vendetta against anyone who commits murder. i have a personal vendetta on behalf of women who have been silenced by the men who say they love them. the women who told us they were going to die. yeah, i have a vendetta and i'm >> reporter: for "nightline" i'm ryan smith in new york. >> janine pirro's book "he killed them all" available tomorrow. next this couple gave up more than modern conveniences to live the victorian life but why? take us inside their world.re had a lot on my mind when i got out of the hospital after a dvt blood clot. what about my family? my li'l buddy? and what if this happened again? i was given warfarin in the hospital but i wondered if this was the right treatment for me. then my doctor told me about eliquis. eliquis treats dvt and pe blood clots and reduces the risk of them happening again. not only does eliquis treat dvt and pe blood clots,
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what would it take for you to forego the perks of modern life? fare those of us glued to do our cell phone it's almost impossible to imagine a world without takeout or uber. the couple you're about to meet gave it up voluntarily and they say their controversial choice was worth it. tonight abc's aditi roy joins
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>> reporter: sarah and gabriel crispman might have been born in the wrong century. the husband and wife turn heads. >> sometimes little girl asks me if i'm a princess, which is very sweet. >> reporter: wearing fashion statements that would make a hipster envious. dandy hats, corseted garb, and a estimatechatelaine that functions as a swiss army knife. >> i do everything by hand. i've got girlfriends who do yoga, i sew. >> it's one thing to have an intellectual interest in something but to live in it day in, day out, why make that decision? >> i spent a year in japan teaching english. that made me realize that studying things from a book is one thing. actually being in that place and being surrounded by the people and interacting with the things that they use every day, that's something else. >> reporter: the victorian era is everything between 1837 to 1901. sarah and gabriel choose to focus on the last decades of that time period when
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and cars were first introduced. >> trying to make it work -- >> reporter: walking through their home in washington state you're struck by the antique appliances, a wad-fired stove set. >> the hotter the victorian home, especially in the winter -- >> reporter: patented in 1879. >> it's actually a lot more controllable than an electric stove. >> reporter: a literal icebox. >> so the meat gets put right on the ice. >> this is a miller vestal -- >> reporter: an oil lamp. >> when we first light it go around the wick, then put this on. and turn this down just a little bit. there we go. >> reporter: if you listen closely you won't hear the sounds of a washing machine or a dryer. no microwave or mixer preparing meals. just the tick-tock of a clock. which made one particular sound -- [ cell phone ringing ] >> that sounds like a modern phone. >> it is. >> reporter: -- seem especially out of place. >> we didn't think to turn it
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off because it hardly ever rings. >> do you even cell phones? >> never have, neither of us. >> reporter: gabriel has a master's in library science but works at a bike shop. sarah works at home as a writer. while they live simply they have to embrace some technology in order to survive in 2015. >> we don't completely shun computers, sarah has to use them for research. but i don't want to be controlled and i don't want my life combined by computers and technology. >> reporter: but sarah started writing her book, "this victorian life," by hand with withdropper fountain pen. >> you wrote an entire book in script. >> yeah. >> jimmy: >> submitted it to your editor? >> i had to type it up. there is no editor in the world who will accept a handwritten manuscript manuscript. even though i write them this way i have to type them up to turn them in. >> repepter: while they may be an extreme case of people throwing back to old times they're not the only ones.
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even in pop culture of people adopting 19th century trends to fit their modern needs. celebrities like kylie jenner and khloe kardashian have cherry picked from the victorian era wearing corset-like waist trainers. >> what's the point of wearing the corset? >> it holds the back up straight. it makes the waist smaller. so it accentuates the different sexual characteristics between men and women. >> does that feel like it's subjugating? >> no. it's rather empowering. >> reporter: these tokens of the past caused an uproar online when sarah wrote about her lifestyle for vox.com. reaction on the internet went viral with some on twitter mocking her. websites joining in to point out that women didn't even have the right to vote back then. >> what's so big about a vote? democracy. >> america started with a lot less voters than they've eventually become. the conception of who should vote has evolved over time.
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again, it's something we don't necessarily see as being the most important thing in the world. >> but you do agree women should vote? >> well -- i think that voting in general is overrated for everyone. >> reporter: though slavery was accomplished in the u.s. during that time period, some modern readers have also noted that minorities were not entitled to the same privileges of white people during that time. >> in the victorian era, someone who looked like you wouldn't be friends with someone who looked like me. >> actually, here in this part of the country, we certainly would have. if we were in boston, we certainly would have. whereas there are certain parts of the world now where we might not be. even 2015. >> reporter: the chrisman say they aren't trying to force their lifestyle on anyone, just embracing the overlooked knowledge from a time in history that was seemingly simpler. >> it's the difference between reading about a different country in a book and going there. >> reporter: for "nightline" i'm aditi roy in port townsend, washington.
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tt0w!t%(q! %4@-'o< tt0w!t%(q! el@--hp tt0w!t%(q! ed@-+j4 tt0w!t%(q% )8h-k4h tt0w!t%(q% kzh-v[4 tt0w!t%(q% n-h-#28 tt0w!t%(q% 0ph-=u tt0w!t%(q% s"h--'@ tt0w!t%(q% ueh-.e0 tt0w!t%(q% 7hh-2gd finally tonight, with halloween out of the way, some of us are already thinking about what's going on the table for thanksgiving. but with the seasons changing at super sonic speed theseays does anyone else feel like christmas is coming earlier this year? 'tis the season already? decorations are popping up,
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retailers rolling out christmas deals, and those festive red starbucks cups are back. if it feels like the holidays are starting earlier you're not just imagining things. it's called the christmas creep. a marketing strategy that apes to boost profits by extending the shopping season. amazon rolled out black friday deals today. walmart kicked off seasonal sales yesterday. over 40% of americans have already started holiday shopping. if you don't have that buddy the elf level of holiday cheer, you're not alone. people letting their inner grinch out tweeting, it's beginning to look like somebody should be punched in the face for playing christmas music so early. ouch. and, thanksgiving is underappreciated and mashed potatoes don't get the respect they deserve. but you still have plenty of time to find your holiday spirit. there are, after all, still 52 shopping days to go.
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said, oh for the good old days when people would stop christmas shopping when they ran out of money. thank you for watching abc news and don't miss our live interview with republican presidential candidate donald trump on "good morning america" tomorrow. as always we're online 24/7 on our "nightline" facebook page
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