quote, "donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. total and complete shutdown, it was a phrase that caught a lot of attention. people calling trump a racist and xenophobe, but trump says what he's saying is actually good for american muslims. >> donald: i'm doing good for the muslims. what i'm doing now is far more important than any particular business i have in the middle east. i'm doing a big favor. i was just called by one of the most important people of the middle east and just said to me, donald, you have done a tremendous service to the muslims. because we're making, nobody wants to talk about it. everybody wants to be so politically correct. oh, let everybody come in. we have a problem and the problem has to be solved. and when that problem is solved, it's gonna be a much happier world.

outrage came quickly, even f fm repuican leaders. many condemned his policy ideas, but some like ted cruz were a little more tempered. >> paul: what was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for. >> lindsey: and you know how you make america great again? tell donald trump to go to hell. >> ted: i disagree with that proposal. i like donald trump, a lot of our friends here have encouraged me to criticize and attack donald trump. i'm not interested in doing so. >> sabrina: on the democratic side, the reaction was even harsher. hillary clinton saying in urbandale this week that trump is helping the terrorists. >> hillary: we need to be doing everything we can with people across the world to fight radical jihadists. donald trump is supplying them with new propanda. he's actually playing in to

he will become part of their recruitment efforts. >> sabrina: the remarks have also sent shockwaves around the globe. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu made known he rejects trump's proposal. later, trump announced he's postponed a planned meeting with netanyahu in israel. british prime minister, meanwhile, david cameron labeled trump's proposal divisive and quite simply wrong. british citizens also responded with a petition calling for trump to be banned from entering the u.k. and scotland's first minister stripped trump's status as a busisiss ambassador for thth country. a university in scotland also stripped an honorary degree it had awarded trump. but despite all this, the gop front runner is now backing down, he's not backing down, that is. fellow republican candidate carly fiorina calls it all one big gift to the democrats. >> carly: donald trump is a gift wrapped package under the christmas tree to hillary clinton. but i am the lump of coal in her

(laughter) >> carly: the truth is- (applause) >> carly: the truth is donald trump is the best thing to ever happen to hillary clinton. because if he is the nominee of this party, she will wipe the floor with him. and we will also lose the senate and we will most probably lose the house. so, she hopes for donald trump wrapped up under her christmas tree. >> amanda: some predictions from carly fiorina. so, will they come true? a man who might be able to guess joins us now in studio here. this is dr. steffen schmidt. he's a professor of politics at iowa state university and a regular guest here on this week in iowa. so first of all, just curious what your reaction is to trump's policy. some people are calling him a fascist, is that fair? >> steffen: it's just donald trump again sucking the oxygen out of the media. >> amanda: mmhmm. >> steffen: he knows how to play the media. he is a genius at attracting attention, now global attention. and you know, certainly it is sort of an astonishing position

but frankly, the history of the united states is full of sort of immigration policies that are a little bit disturbing. we've had those before and in times of crisis, we seem to lurch in that direction. i mean, we did that with the japanese internment. we did it with the chinese exclusion act in the 19th century and so. you know, when the country gets panicky, extreme solutions or radical solutions sometimes become very popular. >> amanda: yeah and we're actually gonna get in to a little bit of that history that you were just talking about a little bit later on in the show. but like you said, this is a statement frfr trump. >teffen: yes. >> amanda: this is what he does. is it dangerous ough to do this sort of thing? >> steffen: freedom of speech, right? (laughter) >> amanda: true. >> steffen: it's the united states, we have a 1st amendment. of course, the criticism that he's getting may cost him politically. he is of course, seems to have teflon covering. so every time he gets attacked, his poll numbers go up. dangerous? it depends, i mean if he was really gonna implement harsh policies like e at, it might be

how the u.s. implemented some of those a little bit later. >> amanda: yeah, and for people who support trump, i think there are ople who wonder, will this be the moment that they're turned off? will this be the rhetoric? will this be the statement that makes them think, ok, this guy is just too extreme? or will those supporters keep supporting him? >> steffen: well not according to polol. i meme, according to polls actually a very substantial nunuer of americans besides his supporters, support a policy like this. in the republican field, in the republican party among voters, very large number supporting this. so, you know, are americans fascists because they say that this might be a good idea to temporarily suspend immigration? after all, most of the terrorist attacks have been committed by muslims. that doesn't mean, of course, that muslims are terrorists. but it means that from that particular community, there is a big threat. >> amanda: so where do you see this whole discussion going next? do you think trump will ever back down from these statements?

continue to attack him? >> steffen: you know what? this is like a, like a storm that blows by. i think it'll blow by and then we'll get back to the campaigngn i don't think donald trump is gonna reverse his position. he's never reversed his position on anything and in fact, he has a lot of support from the conservative talk media. who keep discovering reasons why his position is not so extreme in the context of american politics in the past. >> amanda: mmhmm, more to come. dr. schmidt is gonna stick around with us, but next our discussion's gonna take a bit of a turn. (music) >> amanda: is what donald trump proposing even possible? we look at what's constitutional and what's not with a drake law

that's coming up. >> amanda: welcome back everyone. donald trump's proposal to ban muslims inhe u.s. calls for a little historical look back at some of the other times that the government has identified a certain group of people to keep them out. in 19-, or 1882 rather, the inese exclusion act was signed to keep chinese laborers from immigrating here.

magazine found that fewer than 5 percent of americans supported raising the quotas for political refugees to allow more jews fleeing nazi germany in. and it was in 1942 when president roosevelt ordered the detainment of japanese americans during world war ii. president eisenhower in 1954 wowoed to deport mexicans as part of the operation wetback program. so, is what donald trump proposing right now even allowed by u.s. law? marco rubio, another candidate, called it unconstitutional. >> marco: what he proposed was not well thought out, it was impulsive. he didn't think it through, it violates the constitution. it places a religious st and it isn't the best way to do this. >> amanda: and joining us now is mark kende. he's the director of the constitutional law center at drake university law school in des moines. steffen's here as well, thank you both for being here. we're gonna get right to some questions. first of all mark, what trump is proposing, is it unconstitutional or not? >> mark: i think it is. i think the thing that's unique

usually, you have these prohibitions on nationalities or on people from certain countries. >> amanda: mmhmm. >> mark: what makes this unique is really the focus on religion and really contrary to what we think of as the pluralistic society we want to have. there are cases that we've talked about in terms of the chinese exclusion cases and things that happened during the world war ii era that suggest certainly immigration restrictions are allowed and our immigration laws would not be characterized as progressive. but i think he's crossing a line here- >> amanda: ok. >> mark: even though there are some arguments on the other side. >> amanda: because this is targeting a group of people for religious reasons? >> mark: and it's incredibly over inclusive, because to say that, you know, all muslims fit in to this category. but, as i said, there is some precedent and so, you know. if this became a court case, there would be some arguments that he could make, certainly. >> amanda: mmhmm, now steffen, we were gonna talk about this earlier. we had to hold off till this point in the show. >> steffen: sure.

the u.s. history of exclusion and deportation. >> steffen: yeah. >> amanda: so where does this kind of rhetoric from trump fit in to america's past? >> steffen: well, i think it's true that religion is an exception, because i mean the 1st amendment is such a huge part. religious freedom in this country is an enormous benchmark of american democracy. the problem is that presidents, if he could become president and pass such a law. it takes a while for things to go to the supreme court, doesn't it? >> mark: it does. >> steffen: you know, you can implement a policy and then it takes a while before the supreme court actually says yes, this is unconstitutional. with this particular supreme court, i don't know how they would rule. they've ruled in some very interesting ways that wereret prprictable. so, i don't think acacally trump would do this and he's already walked back from it, obviously. he said, no, no, not all muslims, but you know, not american-muslims. not muslims in the, you know, military, u.s. military and not maybe our allies in countries where the soldiers are islamic. and so i think, you know, he's already walking it back and you

he puts it out as far as he can, sucks all the e ygen out of the media and then walks it back to a more doable, reasonable position. i think he's in the process of doing that. >> amanda: mark, let's talk about america's immigration law. you touched on this a little bit. it is quite old. >> mark: yes. >> amanda: so, does it need to have some sort of overhaul or some fine tuning done to modernize it? >> mark: our immigration law's a disaster. it's s sething that if you r rd it, you would d ly end up confused. >> amanda: hmm. >> mark: but there is a provision in there that allows the president to in exceptional circumstances take measures that i imagine and i've heard people in support of the trump proposal utilize. so yes, it very much needs to be rewritten. on the other hand, if you go even farther back, the united states signed a treaty with the equivalent of the ottoman empire back- this is sort of, you know, late 18th century. >> amanda: ok. >> mark: where we recognized, in

word legitimacy. but sort of acknowledged the legitimacy of muslims. >> amanda: mmhmm. >> mark: so our history's not completely one sidedly unprogressive or racist at all. but the immigration laws are a disaster, even immigration lawyerwill tell you that. >> amanda: interesting, finally with the few seconds we have left france is doing somethings that many may consider right now to be anti-muslim. closing mosques and that sort of thing, do you see that as reactionary or sort of a pattern that we can maybe expect to stick around? >> mark: well, i've lived in france. i've taught in france and you know, the problem is that france almost ahead of donond trump a little bit in this area. they have, you know, banned burqas. they have banned people from wearing things in schools. they have a much more separtationist view of church and state. much less pluralist than we are. so, in some ways what trump is doing resembles a little bit of what france has done. franan lets the muslims ininbut then seems to sort of say, you

creates lots of problems. >> amanda: mmhmm, alright, well next up we're gonna talk about cruzing to the lead. (music) >> amanda: we're gonna switch subjects here, what's behind ted cruz's sudden rise in the polls?

(music) >> sabrina: welcome back everyone. well the republican party has seen some shake ups in the polls to say the least. we'll get to that in a moment, but first, what's going on with the dems. hillary clinton stays steady on top according to the latest cbs/new york times poll, 52 percent. followed by bernie sanders with 32 percent and martin o'malley just 2 percent. on the republican side, donald trump's still in the lead, but that second place spot has been flip flopping a bit. right now, it's ted cruz, 13 percent support among republicans in that cbs/new york times poll. cruz getting some new iowa support this week as well, from the family leader's bob vander plaats. >> bob: and i happen to believe

that we nene for these extraordinary times is u.s. senator ted cruz. >> sabrina: well that's a big enrsement for the religious conservatives in iowa. dr. steffen schmidt, professor of politics at iowa state still with us. (laughter) >> sabrina: is steffen, what does this endorsement mean? does it mean anything? >> steffen: well sabrina, endorsements sometimes don't mean anything. these endorsements that he's gotten from vandnd plaats and from stete king are very huge.e. >> sabrina: mmhmm. >> steffen: and that's because both of them have a big constituency bel them that follows them, that likes them and has supported them. and i think that they are important and probably account for the fact that he has risen so fast in iowa. >> sabrina: now it wasn't just the cbs poll, it was also a cnn poll- >> steffen: yes. >> sabrina: where donald trump is still in on top, but in a monmouth universititpoll, ted cruz was the one who camamout on top. obviously, the sample sizes are very different. >> steffen: right. >> sabrina: but what are you thinking for why ted cruz is coming out on top in this monmouth university poll? >> steffen: again, you said it. sampling, it depends on how you ask the questions and how you

how many evangelicals you have and so on. but i think it is now a sort of a contest between cruz and dodold trump. and donald t tmp is probably gonna get a little bit hotter and more belligerent with cruz pretty soon. (laughter) >> steffen: because he doesn't like to be second or he doesn't like to look over his shoulder and see someone catching up with him. >> sabrina: that kind of brings me to my next question. donald trump's definitely taking notice of cruz. he's already started a little bit, but what can we expect from trump about cruz on the trail? >> steffen: oh well, you know, it's pretty obvious to me. if i'm writing the script for trump, it's do you really want a cuban-canadian to be the president of the united states? because cruz was born in canada, his birth certificate, i've seen his birth certificate. it says canada and his dad was a cuban and i think, you know, even though that doesn't matter, he's apparently- he probably is a native born, natural born u.s. citizen because his mother was american. i think donald trump is gonna take advantage of that.

run for president, right? >> steffen: i don't know. it's very unclear what it means to be a natural born u.s. citizen as the constitution says you should be. does it mean you have to be born in the united states of america on american soil? can you be born on a military base that is owned by u.s.? is it enough to have a mother who is an american citizen? i think, you know, there has never been a supreme court ruling on it. >> sabrina: ok, so do you think that donald trump could take it that far? >> steffen: no, donald trump will do what he did with barack obama. which is to say obama is not a u.s. citizen and he'll say cruz is not qualified to be president, i think. and also he'll, i think he'll attack cruz for, you know, not cooperating with the rest of the republican leadership. which actually, the republican adership, the mainstream leadership, doesn't like cruz very much because he's been so belligerent with the party establishment, let's say. >> sabrina: ok, so first it was carson who was battling trump at the top. >> steffen: right. >> sabrina: now it's gonna be cruz battling trump at the top. >> steffen: yes. >> sabrina: do you think that there'll be another shift before

think it'll remain kind of here? >> steffen: that is a terrific question. i don't think there will be another shift. i think the only shift will be who is gonna be number 3? who is g gna move up there, is it gonna be marco rubio? is it gonna be somebody else? chris christie gonna get any legs? we don't now that, because in iowa, you don't have to come in first to move on and be successful, 1, 2 or 3 is fine. and so we're gonna watch it, it's gonna fabulous, fabulous race. >> sabrina: oh won't it, i have my predictions that i'll keep to myself. but i am very excited to see it all l ake out. ststfen, thank you so much for joining us for this whole show. >> steffen: always, always a pleasure to be here. >> sabrina: we'll take a quick break, but coming up. (music) >> sabrina: we go one on one with jeb bush. why he says he's not worried about his iowa ground game, stay

(music) everyone. well last week i spoke to republican presidential candidate governor jeb bush. at the beginning of the election cycle, he was the presumed front

but that's not how this has all shaken out. he's not even in the top 5 in the most recent poll, of national polling that is. so i asked him about it, take a listen. but 4 percent in iowa, does that worry you at all? >> jeb: no, because, you know, the candidates that were winning in the year before the election in iowa never win. there's always, at the end, these are discerning voters. they make up their mind late and i think they're gonna want to have some one who has the leadership skills to fix these big complex challenges we face now as a nation. >> sabrina: well, governor bush's campaign has been spending a lot more money and putting more resources in to n hampshire, more than iowa. but he says that doesn't matter, he says he'll be spending just as much time as he is here in iowa as he in new hampshire and different ates have different needs in order to win come caucus night. so when we spoke, i also asked him about terror and national security given the paris attacks and most recently, the san bernadino shooting. i asked him about one of the most pressing concerns for the

americans are so concerned about. >> jeb: yeah. >> sabrina: what i mean, the president says that there is, that isis is contained. then just yesterday, the chief of staff said it's not, so. >> jeb: of course it doesn't matter, i mean, being contained would be actually a victory for isis. they want to, containing isis means they exist in the form of a caliphate the size of indiana with 30,000 battle tested terrorists organizing to destroy western civilization. the e tion that containment is actually a strategy is part of the reason why president obama has failed in this regard. we need a comprehensive strategy to take out isis. where we create safe zones inside of syria allow for the refugees, safe harbor for them. but more importantly, to train and to equip a fighting force that would take out isis with our support. air power and support in every way. >> sabrina: we'll take a quick break, be right back on this

(music)efore we go today, we have some must see tv for you. (laughter) >> amanda: donald trump, of course we know he is known for ruffling feathers, but it's never been so literal before. these are the outtakes from time's person ofofhe year issue. trump shared the shoho with a bald eagle, which asou can see, got a little excited at times. >> sabrina: now don't worry, the eagle and trump's hair were not harmed during the shoot. the bald eagle's name is uncle sam. now look, this is my favorite part, because you have to see his face and the reaction on his face when he- (laughter) >> amanda: ok. >> sabrina: wait, i think he's gonna, they might have replayed it. it was really good. thanks for joining us for this week in iowa everyone. (laughter) >> amanda: have a grgrt day. (laughter) (music)

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