this. >> amanda: what people are hearing maybe because of what happened last session, with educucion funding, is that this is taking away money from education. >> terry: not at all. >> amanda: not the case? >> terry: it wou give us additional funding for the school infrastructure. it would provide funding for water quality and it would do it without raising taxes. just extending the existing 1 cent sales tax going for schools infrastructure that would expire in 2029. >> amanda: mmhmm. >> terry: so i see this as a win-win situation for educatioio for water quality and for the taxpayers, cause it's not increasing taxes. and i've been visiting with a lot of superintendents. we've been visiting with agriculture groups. we've been visiting with business groups. now, not everybody gets what they want. i mean, schools would love to get all of the growth. but they're getting 21.7 billion dollars, i think that's a pretty significant investment and

would get at least 10 million more. they get the first 10 million in growth, so it doesn't take any thing away from what they're already getting. in fact it would give them the first 10 million in growth, which as i said, grows to 788 million. 788 million annually or 21.7 billion over this period of time. so, i think it's an idea as people really understand it will see that it really is a win-win. it's a benefit for school infrastructure and provides us a reliable, long term source of funding for water quality. that will help us provide the incentives that we need to continue to improve the quality of iowa's water. >> amanda: water qlity, i feel like, has become more of a topic in the news lately. so, why has it become more of an issue for you to address? >> terry: well, i think ththe's a lot of concern about the lawsuit that the des moines

the drainage districts. and the concern is, if we were to get an adverse decision by a judge on that- >> amanda: mmhmm. >> terry: they could literally close down the title lines and drainage districts and basically convert some of the most productive farm land in the world back t tswamp. it would be devastating to the iowa economy, so it's s t only a concern of the farmers that own the land. it's a concern to the iowa businesses and the entire state. and we don't need to have a battle between des moines and rural iowa. we want to instead be able to address and i think one of the big concerns that des moines has is, even though we have a nutrient reduction strategy. we don't have a reliable, long term commitment of resources to pay for it. the state has 9 and a half million dollars for the nutrient

this would also address not only a non-point source pollution from agricultural land. it would also address what municipalities have to deal with is point source pollution from their sewa treatment plants. and this would provide additional money for that, to help communities as well as to help agriculture. so, we are gaining a significant support and we're visiting with the league of municipalities. we're visiting with farm groups and it's already been endorsed by the corn growers and the soybean sociation. yesterday, the cattlemen's association endorsed it. we're hopeful we can get also broad based support in the business communini from the chambebealliance and the association of business and industry. the des moines partnership, which has a committee that's been working on it. the chair of that committee or one of the co-chairs of that committee participated in our

and so, we're hopeful as people learn about what this would really do, that we can get the kind of broad based support. convince the legislature this is a way thth we can address additional funding for school infrastructure, water quality and do it without raising taxes. >> amanda: have you seen any thing like this done in other states? >> terry: no, in fact, we're one of just a few states that provides statewide sales tax for school infrastructure. so already, we're doing more than most states are for local school infrastructure. most of it's paid out of local bond issues, out of property tax. and people hate property tax, so paying for it out of sales tax and it can go not just for buildings, but it can go for technology, computers for students, buses as well. so this has been a good program. it extends it, but it shares some of the growth. the first 10 million in growth every year goes to school

but uh, the growth over and above that would go in to this new w ter quality fund. >> amanda: the governor will lay out his priorities in the condition of the state. that's tuesday morning and that's also when we can expect some details on the governor's budget. (music) >> sabrina: when we're back, presidential politics up next and 3 candidates visit with our this week in iowa team. hear their strategy on how to win iowa with just a few weeks

(music) (music) >> amanda: welcome back, as we check in on the latest presidential polls now in iowa. it's been a while since we've seen a new poll of iowa caucus goers, so we're actually digging back to late december for this one from gravis. which shows hillary clinton with nearly 50 percent of support locked up. and then on the republican side, it shows a tie at the top in iowa between ted cruz and donald trump. and marco rubio, ben carson, jeb bush and mike huckabee are rounding out the top 6 there. now, ben carson's poll numbers really took a nose dive after

bernadino terror attacks. he actually used to be number 1 in iowa. >> sabrina: that's right. people thought he didn't have enough foreign policy knowledge after those terror attacks. but he's shifting his strategy a little bit now because of that. i had the opportunity to sit down with him and ask him about it and his response to north korea's hydrogen bomb test in an interview this week. take a listen. >> ben: people used to ridicule president reagan when he talked about, you know, star wars defense mechanisms. believe me, we need to be working on those kinds of things, because you know, with people like him and with people like the iranians. and you knowowpeople like hezbollah and some of the other terrorist organizations, eventually, you know, as much as we desire not to have it happen. eventually, they will have these weapons. we need to anticipate that and you know, our defense can't

up, we're gonna blow you up. that doesn't work for me. we need to have a defense mechanism to prevent their weapons from ever reaching us. >> sabrina: what d ds that look like? >> ben: well, one of the things that we have neglected is our space program. and in the future, he who controls space controls the earth. we have to have sophisticated satellite monitoring systems that are equipped with defensive devices that will blow their devices up virtually as soon as they are launched. uh, and this kind of technology is vital to our future. >> sabrina: so you did recently have a bit of a change up in your staff. has your change in staff altered the way that you would react to the situation in north korea or any situation around the world? >> ben: i don't know that it's altered that, but it certainly has energized me. (laughter) >> ben: it's like a big weight has been lifted from my

whole organization is much more energized now. you know, we have put in to place, you know, operations now. you know, we have surrogates. you have some surrogates right here in iowa who can now come on television. who can explain things and these are all things that i've really been wanting for some time but have been sort of a dragging in the mud. and now, they're right out front, i think it makes a big difference. >> sabrina: ok so, what does this strategy look like? i mean, can you believevwe're onlyly6 days away from the iowa caucuses? >> ben: the key strategy for me is getting in front of people. >> sabrina: mmhmm. >> ben: and actually explaining to them, you know, my thoughts. they don't now have to listen to other people in the media and other plac, yourself excluded, who you know, distort things. and you know, say what they think i am. they can see for themselves.

time in iowa during those next 26 days talking to lots of different audiences. and they will see that, you know, logic and common sense works extremely well. it always has worked well. things that get in the way are ego and politics. >> sabrina: was that part of your campaign before or is that what this staff change is partially about too? >> ben: uh, that's been part of what the stata change has been about. i think everybody's gonna see a big difference. >> sabrina: so, let's say this strategy isn't successful. i know that you want to think that it will be, but you have to look at both sides. what happens if you don't do ll here? >> ben: if i don't do well here and i don't do well in other places, i'll go and do something else. (laughter) >> ben: simple as that. >> sabrina: simple as that. (laughter) >> amanda: you know, i think you have to appreciate the fact that he's being honest on that one. >> sabrina: : u know, not a lot of politicians will even admit the possibily of defeat. >> amanda: right. >> sabrina: so, i appreciated that answer.

>> sabrina: yeah. >> amanda: he's honest about it. coming up next- (music) >> amanda: we talk to somebody who knows a thing or 2 about winning the iowa caucuses. mike huckabee, who just finished his full grassley, joins us

(music) >> sabrina: welcome back, congratulations in order for republican presidential candidate mike huckabee wrapping up his full grassley. 99 counties, even tweeting this animated pic about his travels. so big shout out to him. huckabee has spent arguably more time than any other candidate in iowa this cycle. >> amanda: in january alone, he has about 150 campaign stops scheduled. one of those was right here in the studio with our very own jack miller. >> jack: i am here with former arkansas governor mike huckabee. now republican presidential candidate and governor huckabee, thanks for being with us today. >> mike: my pleasure jack, great to be here. >> jack: we appreciate it. i want to start with your 99 counties, congratulations- >> mike: thank you. >> jack: i guess i should start out with first. (laughter) >> jack: you did what we're calling the full grassley- >> mike: that's right. >> jack: in honor of chuck grassley, who tours all 99 counties every year. why did you feel that this was important for you to do this in

>> mike: you know jack, i don't think there's any shortcut to the iowa caucus. i just believe that there is an expectatioiothat people have andnd it's frankly, , good one. that you're gonna go out and earn the vote. so, between may the 6th and today, we didn't just go through 99 counties. i actually held town halls in all 99 counties of iowa. and today, when we finished up in keokuk county, it was a wonderful reminder that, you know, this is a long hard process. but it's also what makes the iowa caucus so important to the rest of america. >> jack: mmhmm. >> mike: so that candidates have to go out and answer questions from farmers andndeachers and merchants and single moms and unemployed truck drivers and welders. i think that's a valuable part of running for president. >> jack: mmhmm, ok. so you didn't clip any counties, you didn't just drive through the corner of any one just to count one? >> mike: never did a drive by, never just got out and took a photo at the county courthouse. (laughter) >> mike: we actually did, i mean lengthy town halls in every single one of the 99 counties.

>> mike: there's some great things about this state. i think i'm gonna write a travel log someday. (laughter) >> mike: and tell the people of iowa where some of the cool things they might be missing in their state. >> jack: yeah, there's a lot more than some people know here. >> mike: a lot. >> mike: organization is important in iowa. i want to ask you about alice stewart, she was your spokeswoman- >> mike: yeah. >> jack: she departed the campaign a few days ago. is this a big deal? is this a red flag for your campaign? >> mike: no, not at all. i mean, we have 40 or 50 people on the staff and we lost 1 pepeon. and you know, we wish her well, but that's life. campaign operatives come and go, they choose to maybe go work some where else and that not that unusual. >> jack: mmhmm. >> mike: what was to me more important is that, you know, we're focused on what matters to the people of iowa. i don't think they care who's on our campaign staff. what they care about is are we interested, tuned in to- >> jack: mmhmm. >> mike: and willing to fight for the things that they know will make america terrific. >> jack: religious conservatives have always bebe a strong part of the people who support you. >> mike: yeah.

iowa this election cycle that a lot of those people have migrated over to ted cruz rather than you. is that true and why do you think to some degree that may be happening? >> mike: well, we have, i think, a lot of the people that were with us before, in 2008. and you know, i didn't just win, i got the largest number of votes in the history of the iowa caucus. one of the reasons is that we're going out there and doing all 99 counties. and jack, i'm doing 150 events in iowa just in january. >> jack: mmhmm. >> mike: the reason i'm working that hard is because i learned, don't take anything for granted. and we also know that most people in iowa, they're not sure who they're gonna vote for till just before the caucuses. >> jack: mmhmm. >> mike: so it's a, it's every election cycle. the pundits have it all figured out and everytime they're wrong. we think they're wrong again. we still believe we'll win on february 1st. >> jack: and we've only got time for one more question. and that's really feeding in to the question i wanted to ask you. what is the difference in the

who polls for one person but caucuses for another? >> mike: the caucus voter is a very serious voter. they're not casual. they're committed. they're gonna go out and spend several hours in perhaps a drafty fire house or school room and caucus. it's not just popping by on the way to work and they're informed voters. they really study the issues and they listen to all the ads, but when it gets down to it? they make a visceral decision about who they connect to and i do think that people just fail to understand that iowa voters will have a, maybe a preference- >> jack: mmhmm. >> mike: but they don't make a commitment till the end. i say they date everybody in the field, but they don't put a ring on it until wedding day. (laughter) >> jack: good way to put it. we wish you the best of luck on february 1st. >> mike: thank you, jack. great to be with you. >> jack: thanks governor. >> mike: thanks. (music) >> amanda: alright jack, thanks for that. up next, another candidate making a play for iowa voters, senator rand paul will join us to talk about why he's a little different from his fellow

(music)come back everyone. we're joined now by senator rand paul. he's a republican candidate for president and congratulations. you just celebrated your birtxday in des moines. >> rand: we did, we had a great birthday party and we also announced that we have 1,000 precinct chairmen. which is no small feat. we may well be the most organized campaign in iowa at this point. >> amanda: yeah, that is a huge milestone for you guys. did you ever organized you'd be spending or celebrating a birthday in des moines? (laughter) >> rand: well, no. i mean, there are places that are a little bit warmer, a little bit balmier. (laughter) >> rand: yesterday, as i came in, i commented that the snowflakes.

texas and snow's an anomaly and i said, the snowflakes are this big! (laughter) >> rand: it was huge- >> amanda: they can be, yeah. >> rand: coming down, big wet snow yesterday. >> amanda: yeah it definitely was. >> sabrina: now, you are kind of out of step with some of your republican counterparts in that you want to limit foreign policy intervention. does this make you a candidate, a weaker candidate w wn it comes to terroriri, a number one concern for many americans? >> rand: i think the facts are actually on my side. you know, when you look at the middle east and you say, well has it been a good idea to topple saddam hussein? you know, we toppled saddam hussein, we lost 5,000 young men and women. we spent a trillion dollars, but now, iraq has repaid us liberating them by joining iran. they're aligned with iran and they're aligned with russia. so i think it didn't work out so well in iran or in i iq. also, look at libya. we toppled gaddafi, we got chaos and there's actually more radical islam and more terrorists. so really, i think there is a good question. we've been beginning to have this in the presidential debate. is it a good idea to topple secular dictators, what comes

see right now in syria, rubio, bush, all the others. they want to topple assad, they want to get rid of assad. but then, my point is, well maybe then isis takes over the whole region. >> sabrina: is it the lesser of 2 evils then? >> rand: well, i think there are variations of evil on both sides sometimes. and sometimes it really isn't a u.s. interest to being involved. see, we've been pouring weapons in on the side of the islamic rebels, but they're allied with al-qaeda and isis. and i think it's completely insane to give weapons to the allies of al-qaeda and i've been saying so for a few years now. >> amanda: you mentioned bush and rubio, i want to ask you about trump. he's the front runner and you seem to tip toe less around criticism of trump. why is that? >> rand: no, i think he gets his fair share. if you've been following me around iowa, what you find is that i've been criticising the fact that in the last debate, he didn't even know what the nuclear triad was. which is that we have missles that can be launched by land, sea and air. and then his spokesman came out a week after that and said well, our biggest problem is we haven't been willing enough to

that scares me and i think trump really ought to be disqualifiedd from even being considered. because do you really want someone to be the president of the united states who thinks that our biggest problem is we have not been willing enough to use our nuclear weapons? that kind of reckless talk, that- everything that comes out of his mouth is reckless. he needs some sort of guard or something before he speaks or someone to push a delay button on him. but the thing is is, do we really want a president that's going to be mouthing off to every world leader around the, you know, around the globe? so, i think there's a great danger to having him. i think we'd lose in a landslide, so no, i have not been soft in my criticism of trump as well. >> sabrina: what's your strategy now for iowa, we have just a few more seconds. how do you win iowa? how do you get some of those younger voters that is your demographic out to the polls? >> rand: our goal is to get 10,000 students out. we have organized on all college campuses, all 20 college campuses in iowa. this is the first time the iowa students will actually be in school during the caucus and that's a big deal. we're also intending on trying

join us. so we think students, independents, liberty minded republicans. people who don't want the government collecting all their phone records. people who are worried about the government borrowing a million dollars a minute. people who don't want to be involved in another foreign war. i think there's enough of them to put together a coalition that we can win. >> amanda: right, senator paul thanks for being here today. (music) >> amanda: we'll be right back,

(music) >> amanda: and that's all the time we have. thank you so much for joining us. >> sabrina: have a great sunday everyone and we'll see you back here next week on this week in iowa. (music) (music)

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