else running who has better understanding of the issues before us now than i do. >> and as wisconsin congress han paul ryan takes the gavel as speaker of the house, he says he'll run things differently. >> have been timid too long. we have to offer. >> dickerson: will he break gridlock on capitol hill? also talk to the number two democrat in the house, steny hoyer. and get the latest on the russian plane that crashed in egypt and killed 224. plus, we'll have roundtable to analyze all the news it's all ahead on "face the nation." good morning, welcome to "face the nation" i'm john dickerson. we've got lot of political news to get to but we start with an update on what caused a russian airliner bound for st. petersburg from egypt carrying more than 200 passengers to crash in the sinai peninsula early saturday. cbs news correspondent allan pizzj in cairo, do authorities

have any idea what caused the crash? >> the short answer to that is, no. speculation centered on mechanical and technical problem, the copilot's daughter has said that her father told her even before the plane took off that the pilots were concerned there was a problem. the plane took off in early hours of the morning, when it reached 31,000 feet and 400 noters the pilot called air traffic controllers said he had a technical problem and wanted to make an emergency landing then flight traffic shows that the plane dropped about 3,000 feet to 28,000 and slowed from 400 to 93 knots then all contact was lost. now, immediately following that, the affiliate offered here claimed that they brought the plane down killing what they called russian crusaders as pay back for russian involvement in syria. however, that group is known to have missiles that are only capable of going 20,000 feet.

what they cannot rule out is possibility of a woman. interestingly, the search area has now been widened. it was initially all around the crash site where the wreckage is, but then today egyptian authorities said they found a body of a small child, a 5-year-old girl five miles from the crash site so they now widened the search area to nearly ten miles. you have to ask yourself, why are bodies perhaps debris spread out that far. now the good news is that both flight date that recorder and the cockpit voice recorder have been recovered and there already looking into this which should give some clues also a russian recovery group has gone out to look at debris also to bring back bodies. the answers should come fairly soon but for now nobody really knows what happened. >> dickerson: with the first pieces of the puzzle, thanks so much. and russian aviation official now saying the disintegration happened in the air we'll continue to monitor.

turning to the race for the republican nomination, yesterday we sat down with florida senator marco rubio out on the campaign trail in des moines. senator, i want to start with the news this the united states sending 50 special operations forces into syria, is that enough? >> well, it's an important start to what i think, from tactical perspective, broader issue, what is the strategy? has to involve more coordination with the kurds and sunnis. without robust anti-isis sunni coalition. i do think it's important tactical step forward, needs to be backed up with increased airstrikes. i don't have problem with tactics of it. the numbers might even have to be larger at some point. but i think bigger issue can they arrive at strategy. that's why i think administration still struggling to outline. >> dickerson: special forces in seary but the russians are also operating in syria do you worry there's any conflict there? >> there is always that potential. one of the things that concerns us is that there is airstrike of some sort that may end up

hitting forces that are americans embedded alongside, one of the issues that people concerning about miscalculation. but on the other hand, eyes will not be defeated unless they are confronted by organized anti- isis sunni movement that won't happen without american assistance of some significant level like what you're seeing proposed now. >> dickerson: donald trump says let the russians fight isis that's fine with us. >> the numbers russians aren't necessarily targeting isis, they're targeting non-isis rebels, part of effort to wipe out any non-isis fighters to turn to the world say that the only choices are either assad or isis. second point is that the growth of isis will continue in iraq, they are spread into libya where they become significant presence in degreesingly in average as well. they are using all these operating bases not to conduct regional efforts but to grow, recruit people online. >> dickerson: how much of the united states should be worried

about the russian presence in the middle east, increase presence in middle east. >> the goals are pry prayerly flee hold. putin wants to be viewed as important international leader on par of with the united states. part is deflecting attention away from ukraine. part is about becoming a regional power that replaces the united states in terms of the power broker in the region and its direction. the interests are to prop up assad who is provided for them a foothold into the region. so they are stepping into vacuum we left behind. ideal world you'd be able to work with rush that to delete jihaddists. >> dickerson: let's switch to talk about executive experience. in 2008 republicans running talking about democrats that were running, senators running, barack obama, hillary clinton, constantly republicans say they never run as much at lemonade stand. they haven't governed. why this does not apply to you now?

>> first of all the presidency is not a bookkeeping job. it's not glorified accounting job, the leader of the united states both as people and as nation and government. job ever a president is to craft a vision for america's future, to put the right people in the right position hold them accountable for carrying out your agenda but also to rally the country behind big causes, entitlemenenreform is huge undertaking, it will never happen without presidential leadership. not to mention national security. the context of barack obama he has now been president for seven years. he has significant executive experience and he's still making mistakes in my opinion. and so it's clear that the issue with him is not that he didn't have executive experience, it's that ideas do not work. and that's why i think it's important to elect someone to the presidency with the right ideas. ideas that allow private sector to succeed because that's where you get job creation and economic prosperity. also someone that understands the risks in the world today of what america's role needs to be. >> dickerson: i guess when? is obviously something your

opponents are writtenning up, jeb bush saying in fundraising appeal says you have no credible experience beyond governing, the questions have you been in a position where you've had to make tough calls, where there are real consequences and where do you get that strength from, if you were to make the presidency where you have those decisions all day long. >> the presidency not like being a u.s. senator. but it's not not like being governor. there is no office in the world. what i have then over last five years is judgment, good judgment, and understanding of a major issues before america, particularly on foreign policy. i do not believe anyone else in this race that has shown better judgment on the issues before america today than i have and better understanding of them especially on the foreign policy realm. which is at the end of the date the most important obligation of a president. presidents don't run the economy. what you do promote policies that allow the private sector to succeed. >> dickerson: the bush campaign called you the republican obama the is that insult or compliment? >> i don't think they mean it as

compliment, i don't take it as that. whatever gives them an advantage someone convinced, jeb, that attacking me is going to help his campaign. it won't change the way we pin our campaign. we'll continue to give people serious candidacy that is optimistic and realistic, about our future and challenges and the direction that our country needs to be. that's what i'm going to focus on. someone else chooses to go in a different direction, i think it's one of the reasons why barack obama was reelected in 2012 because too many candidates spent tremendous amount of time attacking fellow republicans and undermining mitt romney. i hope we don't repeat that. >> you mentioned jeb bush in the debate this big moment between the two of you, he mentioned your missing votes in the senate as constituent he wanted you to be there more. you came back at him not just on subject stabs, but you questioned his motives, you said, you're just doing it because you're advisors have told you. is there nothing genuine in his critique of you in your attendance.

>> of having criticized anyone else in the past. the truth is i don't like missing votes. what i would hate to wake up on first wednesday of november to the news that hillary clinton has been elected president of the united states. we're going to continue to serve the people of florida. we do have i think very good job in office in their interracks with government. most certainly be there for most votes and many votes. there will be some i will miss. because i'm campaigning so that in the future those votes actually mean something. far too many votes that are in the senate are predetermined we know what the out come is going to be. being done for message and purposes but never going to pass. because even if you could find enough votes to pass the president would veto it. when i become president we can turn some of these ideas into law, into policy. so when we're away that's what we're doing. >> dickerson: what jeb bush your mentor? >> he was a big part. i don't know about labels, most certainly big part of my career i have tremendous admiration. i said that at the debate. he was a great governor of florida, someone i have

my issue is not with jeb bush. i'm running for president. i believe that our party and country needs to turn the page allow people, new generation of leadership that understands the issues before america now. i know there are people running with more experience than i do on issues we face 17 years ago. but on issues before america today that's what we should be debating. i just don't believe there's anyone else running who has better understanding of the issues before us now than i do. >> dickerson: are people wrong who say that the reason it was such moment for you in the debate because you have this relationship, this friendship with him and you could basically call him on his motives and that that created this drama that everybody is talking about. people support you say you put jeb bush in his place. >> i don't know -- he said something i had to respond. i feel obviously what i said something that i believe. i do believe that jeb has been convinced by people around him that he needs to attack me in order to be more successful. i don't personally agree with it but i'm not running his campaign. what i control is my campaign. my campaign is not going to be

attacking him or any other republicans. if there are policy issues we should debate those. i'm not t ing to bad mouth other republicans. i want to be the nominee. someone on that stage will be the republican nominee i don't want to do anything that makes it easier for hillary clinton or whoever democrat nominee is to defeat the republican. because we truly as a nation, cannot afford another four years like the last eight. >> dickerson: let me ask you on the senate attendance question. in iowa, the senate campaign there, republican senatorial campaign ran bunch of ads against the democrats saying he missed a bunch ever votes. it was devastating for him. if it worked against democrat in that state that it could cause you any -- >> i'm not political strategist i'm candidate. i can tell you what i would hurt me more. never coming to iowa, people understand that if i do miss a vote it's not because i'm on vacation. it's because i'm here interacting with the voters in the hopes this they quill give pecans to be the republican nominee and president. again, unfortunately in the senate today majority of votes

pass, they're being voted on for messaging purposes, important messaging purposes. i'm running for president so in the future when we vote to repeal obamacare or reallocate the money from planned parenthood to another entity we can turn that into policy and law. >> dickerson: thank you, senator marco rubio. to watch the interview check out our website facethenation.com. next up our talk with paul ryan. our clients have relied on us to bring our best thinking to their investments so in a variety of market conditions... you can feel confident... ...in our experience. call a t. rowe price retirement specialist or your advisor ...to see how we can help make the most of your retirement savings. t. rowe price.

>> dickerson: lasts week weeks of chaos rallied around a new leader. electing wisconsin republican house. 45-year-old is youngest speaker in nearly 150 years, we spoke to him in his office on friday. john boehner said of his tenure, i came here to fight for a smaller, less costly more

but i began to realize over the years there was no winning this fight. i don't believe that. i think you can win this fight. i think if you offer the people of this nation who believe that the country is on the wrong track because it is, you offer them a bold alternative vision how to get this country back onment right track, how to fix our problems, how to reapply our founding principles, yes, i believe we can win this federal government give people the kind of freedom and opportunity for all that they deserve. >> dickerson: you said that you want to tackle issues head on, even the tough ones. first order of business, immigration reform, going to tackle that? >> nice. i think it would be a ridiculous notion to try to work on an issue like this with the president we simply cannot trust. he tried to go it alone, circumvent can legislative process with his executive orders. so that is not in the cards. i think if we reach consensus on how best to achieve border and

but look, we've taken plenty of tactical risks here in congress, i think it's time we take some policy risks by showing people what we really believe, who we are and how we can fix this country's great problems. so, we have been timid too long in my judgment we had to offer people a bold agenda. >> dickerson: give me a policy risk. >> we should stay with the new tax code looks like. what obamacare replacement looks like. people don't like obamacare. members of congress don't. most in the majority we all voted against this. if you take look at the premiums, take a look at the fact that decisions are being taken away from patients and their doctors, people are starving for an alternative to this vision. >> dickerson: was there a cost to what that house has just gone through on the republican side? >> i don't think there was cost as much as it was growing pains. i think what we just experienced in the last couple of weeks was what was necessary to unify our congress, to unify our party. basically four things i think we need to d. number one, get the

house working like it was intended to work by the founders. number two, we need to seek common ground, we need to find common ground to advance the nation's interests and we can do so without compromising our principles. number three, i think it's incredibly important that we serve as effective opposition party, a check on the administration's power that leads me to the most important point, number four, we've got to be a bold alternative party. a proposition party. we don't like the direction the company is -- how we do things differently that's what we have to do in 2016. >> dickerson: the group of conservatives who fought against john boehner, the tactics he's using, they're too extreme but in the end republicans now voted for a speaker they really like, you. so isn't that validation of the tactics of the -- >> these guys are good friends of mine. i am a movement conservative, people know that. i think it's important -- what we haven't done is offer a vision.

we have not shown not only ourselves but the nation what is the horizon we're shooting for. what are the big ideas that we're going to champion. that's unifying. that's what we should rally around that to me means we should put aside the timid nature of not taking risks on policy and show people why we should be trusted to lead in this nation to get us to a better day. >> dickerson: do you see this job as a leader where you say, here is where we're going everybody follows you or are you more of a facilitator, john boehner used to talk about working the wheel of the house. >> i was not elected dictator of the house i was elected speaker of the house. that means we do it in a bottom up approach. we reach consensus as republicans we have common principles we need to take those common principles 'ploy to the problems of the day through consensus to show the country a better way forward. it's my job to lead to that consensus but not to dictate that consensus. >> dickerson: one of the things you used to write about when you

ago, you talked how bigger government was possibly smashing community in america. that's a bigger philosophical vision. do you see your job as speaker to make that case? >> i do see my job as speaker, i'm redesigning this job. i don't think it can work going past. off. it has to be done differently. that. i think that's one of the speaker. i do believe we have to be bold, we have to show who we are, what we believe. when you're asking abut communities i spent great deal of time and thought about this. i think big government displaces civil society. big government makes it harder for communities to come together and heal our problems. so, that to me is incredibly important dialogue we're going to have to have whichs how do we attack the root causes of poverty. how do we deal with reintegrating displaced communities so that people can build better lives for

themselves. >> dickerson: you went out, talked to addicts, talked to people down on their luck, you won't be able to do that? >> i'm to go keep doing that because i think we need to go out in our communities and learn, learn from people who are successful at actually fighting poverty getting people back op their feet. i think we need another round of welfare reform to move people from welfare to work so that people can make the most of their lives i'm going to keep doing that. >> dickerson: you may have to do differently, still going to sleep in your office? >> i am. i just work here. i live ingansville, wisconsin. i work here from dawn until about midnight. i sleep in my office it's very convenient. >> dickerson: may hof to get the cigarette smoke out. >> i'm going to sleep in my regular offers. >> dickerson: you have young children. what did you tell them? >> we have lot of talks about this in the week building up to. this and i told them that i'm still going to be home on

what we do on saturdays i do my kids sporting events, sunday is family day that's not going to change. mine can go to commute back and forth to wisconsin every week. the way i look at this is don't you think that people in this country want citizen legislators. don't you think people in this country want their representative in congress living among them, understanding them. going to the same kinds of trials and tribulations, raising families that they do. that to me is where citizen legislature should be like. i don't see myself changing. >> dickerson: will that change the way the house works? you're the first speaker to have little kids in a long time. >> electricity will make it much more efficient. it's a younger breed here in the house. when i came to congress i was the youngest person, i think we were 28 years old. there was is newer, younger breed of members from both sides of the aisle who have families and so i think that that's a

good thing. i think having new blood, young people here often fresh ideas is a good thing. i want to continue that kind of process. >> dickerson: anything else you've carved out that you say, i don't care what being speaker does i'm going to keep doing this. >> of course, i'm going to keep camping, mountain climbing, keep hunting. i told the security detail that human scent not good for bow hunting. i won't go into details, but i have to keep life normal. i have to keep life real. i think they understand that. >> dickerson: have you got to the point yet where you've said, hey, this job that i maybe didn't want it's going to be fun? >> i think i crossed over that -- crossed over to, no. to reluctant. to if i have to, to actually i think this could be very exciting. the reason why i'm excited about this job is because i really believe we have an incredible opportunity to offer the people of this nation a better way forward, a very bold 'general d. this is what people deserve.

most people in this country don't think we're headed in the right direction. i certainly believe. that we ought to show people how we do things differently that's exciting. >> dickerson: tell me about the cross over moment. >> i don't know if it was a moment, this met mortician over few weeks, talking with my colleagues listening to my fellow republicans in congress about their concerns, their frustrations with the way things that have been done in the past what i realize asked, reflected my own thinking, reflected my own frustrations with the way business has been done in congress. this is a new day, we're riping the slate clean. we're going to do things differently. >> dickerson: speaker ryan, thanks very much. we'll be right back to get reaction to all that have from democrat steny hoyer. (gasp) shark diving! xerox personalized employee portals help companies make benefits simple and accessible... from anywhere. hula dancing?

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you watched paul ryan, how do you think he'll be different than john baner? >> i think as he pointed out a movement conservative, more ideological than john boehner. very enthusiastic and perhaps not as wise ened as john boehner was because he went through some of the battles. but he has a lot of ability. he wants to do well. he wants to lead the congress in a way that is effective. the fact is, though, it wasn't the speakership that was broken, it was a deeply divided dysfunctional republican party and that remains. it remains a party that has a very, very strong ideological bent not only inside but outside. and the outside influences constrain what i think are the majority of reasonable pragmatic republicans which is why frankly the ryan budgets which sets

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>> dickerson: but for most of you we'll be right back with a lot more face of nation including more with the number two democrat in the house, steny

>> dickerson: we're back with steny hoyer assistant democratic whip. congressman hoyer, when you listen to paul ryan you mention challenges he's got in hess own party. what do you see in terms of any kind of chance for bipartisanship. >> he said the solutions needed

if he means that, we are certainly willing to work with him to try to solve the problems when you get people back to work, need to pass highway program. frankly the xm bill which was bottled up in committee. he talks about relying on committees, jeb bottled up a bill that came to the floor and out of majority of republicans all but one democrat. he's going to have to take some risks and he's going to confront the same challenge that john boehner confronted when he said pragmatically in order to keep the government running in order to keep the economy growing have to take some actions. we'll see if he can get the support that john boehner found so difficult. >> dickerson: he talked about bold vision. and when he offered bold vision in his budget years it was often a big target for democrats. isn't that a recipe if he's going to offer bold vision for more fighting over ideology?

>> if he's going to offer as he says movement conservative bold visions, that's correct. we're not for changing social security as it exists today. we're for strengthening it. not for making medicare a voucher program. so, some of those bold vision, is that he talks about are things that are worthy of a good debate we think win that debate with the american public. on the other hand to the extent to sit down work collaboratively to solve problems, one of those is comprehensive immigration reform he's already taken that off the table because they don't trust the president. i'm not sure what that has to do with the house of representatives passing substantive constructive legislation that chamber of commerce, labor supports, broad spectrum. >> dickerson: you have a leader, is promises about make home on the weekends and what did you think of that? >> i was laughing. i wish him good luck. he does have small children. i went through that stage myself, i don't have small

children now but i do have grandchildren and great grandchildren. and it's wonderful to be able to spend some time with them. but the fact of the matter is, he's the leader of his party, he's the leader ever the congress. he has great responsibilities, and frankly while he's got great intellect going to take time and effort and application to talking to the members and the country. he'll have challenge accomplishing that objective. >> dickerson: switch to presidential politics for a moment. what did you think of marco rubio? >> i think rubio is good, he speaks well. he comes across rational. rubio's problem is he does not appeal to the disaffected, the anxious and angry in the republican party, that's why trump and carson and cruz and some others are doing so well. and why bush is doing so poorly. unless he can appeal to those, frankly he's changed his

immigration reform because right wing in the party didn't like it. we'll see what issues he takes as presidential candidate and whether those resonate with the base in his party which is angry conservative base. >> dickerson: let me ask you about democratic side my last question, which is, when democratic voters are looking at the candidates what is the one big question they should have in their minds when they're evaluating the candidates? >> who can best lead the country. who has the experience, who has the commitment, who has the broader reach to lead this country. to bring our citizens together. >> dickerson: what do you mean by broader reach? in. >> terms of reaching to all factions of the party and all factions of our country, bringing them together and lead them. that is what i think marco rubio said it best, it's not accountant's job it's a job for a leader who can expression a vision then create a consensus to achieve that vision.

as you know i think hillary clinton is the person to do that. but i also think bernie sanders and martin o'malley, very substantive alternatives who are discussing real issues. i think that's the difference between the democratic field and republican field. >> dickerson: all right, thanks so much. >> thank you. dickerson: we'll be right

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>> dickerson: peggy noonan with the "wall street journal" and cbs news contributor. jamelle is the chief political correspondent, jeffrey goldberg writes for the atlantic and jonathan martin for the "new york times." welcome to all of you. jonathan, let's start with you. marco rubio trying to seize his moment. >> he sure is. he has had promise for so long ever political insider, always the assumption he would be real contender in the end but his -- now is the moment that that might actually change let's see where his numbers are this week in the polling obviously his money is about to change he got big endorsement from bob singer, a new yorker hedge funder will bring some money with him along the way. rubio how has an opportunity and question is, can he seize it. what is so fascinating about this race, john, as you know,

along the way. ben carson still in denial, donald trump doesn't seem to be going away. why all this sort of insider class that rub having his moment. actual voters still seem to be very fond of the outsiders. >> dickerson: that's right. paul singer, a big deal? >> yeah, it's a big deal. the big fish who hasn't been caught yet. although he's leaning rubio. >> dickerson: you can give a lot of money. >> you can give huge sums of money. allison is army of one, paul singer is connected into republican establishment, hedge fund wall street establishment his signaling, this is a signifier, moment where everybody is saying, okay, paul singer thinks it's a good investment there for it becomes a reality. >> dickerson: exactly. peggy, what did you make of the sort of game of thrones moment during the debate when jeb bush

has helped in his 17-year career, then rib yes came back at him questioning his motives right back at him. everything is talking about it. >> it's the reason we are talking about marco rubio this morning. i'm sure many people are. jeb bush and marco rubio did have a long relationship. they passed each other, dealt with each other in a great deal when they were florida officials but always understood jeb bush was the older brother and marco was the younger brother. they had their exchange in the debate the other night, marco did not walk out as junior. jeb went at him and marco swatted him away. it was -- i have a feeling we'll remember as one of those big moments of the primary. >> dickerson: now, the comparisons to barack obama are happening i mentioned to senator rubio that the jeb bush campaign called him the republican obama. do you think it matters that he doesn't have any experience or

does debate moment like that show leadership and so lack in your career doesn't matter? >> i don't think it matter if you look at america's presidents you'll be hard pressed to draw any linear connection between the amount of experience they had and how successful they were. i think it does pose problem for marco rubio that in 2008 republicans did make some. >> rose: pointed argument about barack obama had no experience, continued. rubio lot of ways adopting in 2008 to rebut the claims that he didn't have enough experience. eventually this is going to come to a head. eventually conservatives will say, wait a sec, just seven years ago we said the exact opposite that rubio is saying, are we going to be consistent about this. it's an interesting question about this. jeb bush has actual executive experience, marco rubio doesn't. but watching that exchange, which one would you rather see arguing with putin.

bring an argument strongly, jeb bush doesn't seem -- doesn't have what peggy called aggression necessary to enter this kind of combat. >> he's so flexible, if it works for the republicans they will use it. it's all about circumstances. if your opponent doesn't have any experience, that's your argument. if your team lacks experience. specific. the fact is jeb bush has this thing, once people learn about his experience as governor of this big state, all the conservative reforms that he did, he's not just a bush name, that he has his own record, then voters will come around. here we are, it's november 1st there's no indication whatsoever that in this primary voters have much interest in experience, in record, ten years ago in florida. that is change with more voters

paying closer attention when hampshire. right now, they are much more interested in issues like strength and affect and appearances than records. >> dickerson: one rule that stays, campaign they want a winner. bush? what is the state of the exclamation point? mysteries. >> is it still there? >> i guess one of the mysteries of this primary year is why jeb bush didn't come out. everything as his signal statement, i have been a creative and thinking outside the box and original governor and conservative all those things plus conservative major purple state. it is a surprise to me that he didn't make everybody care about his experience and his accomplishments. he really didn't. he let it go.

where is he now? he's got the wobbleys, now and then candidates get wobbley he says that he's going to -- john mccain come back big, keep your eye on me, i grind it out. i'm a tough figure. we'll see where it goes. the thing i fear for him is that his super pac is going to take its money and do negative dumping on other candidates. it worked in '12, 2012 for newt gingrich against mitt romney but helped kill romney. i think the republican party won't forgive if it's done this time. >> dickerson: it's interesting that you mentioned that, i was talking to marco rubio he said i'm not going to attack anybody because in 2012 everybody attacked the nominee that tore him down that wasn't about what marco rubio was going to do, what he didn't want done to him as he starts looking like he might be rising. >> warning. dickerson: it was definitely

a warning. what about the rest of the field. what do you make of the cruz and trump and the rest of the republican field. >> tend to think that the rest of the field is people are going to fall away, even trump and carson. you can already see trump get tired of it as his numbers go down, he gets upset and angry. i think carson likewise, there's no indication that carson candidate that will endure past iowa. my hunch, i was saying earlier, that marco rubio is adopting a lot of obama's arguments about candidacy and experience. not running obama's 2008 campaign, almost like john mccain's campaign grind it out. ted cruz is running obama-style campaign, focusing on merging grass roots money with big donor money, putting that money across the board trying to develop a strategy that will gain him the most delegates coming out of super tuesday.

super tuesday pass next year and cruz is among the ones left stapping as a viable, potential winner. >> dickerson: we talk about john mccain in 2008 his campaign was almost dead, he was carrying his own bag then 'sended back had this phoenix-like rise which is good for senator from arizona to have a phoenix-like rise. john, do you buy this idea that in republican race that are two lanes, ted cruz are cruz at the head of cruz trump. car rubio at the head of that lane? >> the story in the papers tomorrow that cruz-rubio relationship by jay on horowitz that is good. i can see that coming here at some point, that cruz and rubio merge after super tuesday. i think right now that might even be the conventional wisdom. people have been wrong so many

times. obviously carson raised a lot of money, trump has his own money, he hasn't spent much of it yet. i'm not sure that they're going to get out. i was with carson in colorado after the debate, then again in memphis on friday. you talk to folks, the most powerful stuff is, he's not a politician. he's an outsider. very strong form, don't discount that. >> people have been sitting around these tables for six months, any moment now, any moment now. i don't buy it any more. this can go well into next year. >> dickerson: ask you one question about foreign policy on republican side talking to marco rubio about syria, how do you see that conversation emerging in the republican side and especially with the president putting 50 special operations. >> the 50 troops is incremental, it's intensification of existing strategy. this all depends on events, if the president can keep this problem in a box, then it's why

we stay where we are. if -- what is the big variable here? isis or someone trained in isis-controlled territory does something outside that have territory an act of terrorist, god forbid. then we're in a new world. that becomes obviously among other thing a republican talking point, big question in the republican race. right now i think that donald trump has expressed it best, expressed to you best couple of weeks ago, the feeling that part of many americans when he said that what are we going to do, have world war iii over syria. that's where it is right now it's staying in that spot. president obama understands that as well. but again if thing change f. isis takes another huge city in iraq or syria then we're also in another world. >> dickerson: let me switch to the question of paul ryan, peggy. you saw the interview, he's out now as the face of the republican party, one of them until there's nominee.

face of the republican party? >> well, i'll tell you, one of the things to be said about him i think is that it's nice to see quality rise. everybody, republicans and democrats in this town agrees, this is a serious man who knows. an earnest politics not a sleaze ball or slob, that's good news. another thing that is unseen part of his talent the moment i think is that he didn't want the job, he had to be begged. when you finally give in over matter of weeks and say, okay, i'll take your job. you've left people really invested in you, they don't want this not to work right now. they want it to work which suggests he'll be able to have a

his problematic characters in way that boehner wasn't able to. at least for awhile. >> dickerson: short period of time. jamelle, give me your take where the democratic race stands now. hillary clinton had a good week, where do things stand? >> i think the broad picture still that hillary clinton is likely nominee. i think what might complicate that bernie sanders is running very impressive operation in iowa, has lead in new hampshire, running great operation in new hampshire as well. i'm not sure that if he wins of new hampshire that hillary clinton is knocked out. but i do think that hillary clinton cannot, even though she's ahead by 20-25 points in national polling i do in the think that either race she can take for granted. i do not think count on maybe using south carolina and nevada as firewalls against sanders' vicars to rees in iowa and new hampshire. >> dickerson: we'll have to leave it there. thanks all of you. i want to thank all of you for joining us, peggy is going to

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>> dickerson: "time of our lives" collection of her speeches and columns. when you went back into the

warehouse where some of this was looked through, is there a through line through all of this work that you see? >> i got to tell you this is -- i told your producer, this is sort of 30 years in the making. the putting together of the manuscript, a through line, i was surprised by how the preoccupations of 30 years ago and 20 years ago are indeed the preoccupations of today. not only mine but america's. the greatness game, presidential politics, importance of history, the people who move us. it all comes out to america, i guess. >> dickerson: one of the people that moves the country was ronald reagan whom you worked for. who you worked on speeches with. one interesting thing you said that those who worked for reagan knew him even when he wasn't in the room. when i talked to other staffers for other presidents they said that is the presidential difference.

intuit what they want even if they haven't talked to you. >> that's so smart. dickerson: tell us about that with reagan. >> a speech writer for jimmy carter, i'm jealous of you. he said, why? you knew what reagan thought, you knew why he thought it. you knew how he put it. you knew where he'd come at it. i got to say working for jimmy carter we never knew what he was going to say or where he was going to come out. if your philosophy is clear as president, your history is clear, and how you speak is clear your speech writers are going to be fine. they know you, they studied you, they're with you. >> dickerson: that goes for other parts as well. >> yes, of course. dickerson: tell us about the speech you worked on with ronald reagan after the challenger disaster, the notion of kind of that symbiotic relationship. >> that's so interesting. i begin the book with a lecture

i gave to some college students who were studying history, you're going into politics, let me tell you about a moment in politics. my goodness, it was the day the challenger blew up, we were not able to speak to the president but we absolutely knew what he would think. somebody from the nfc ran the notes of what he wanted to say essentially. they ran that straight into us, that was such a painful day. and it was 0 years ago, my goodness, time goes by. painful day but deeply meaningful one. >> dickerson: the flight christa mccaullif was one. the poem where you had sense tar dar the line from the speech. he had read that poem you never talked about it. >> a little gamble. i thought of this poem i had learned in 7th grade the public schools in long island. this is the perfect end can to this speech but we will he never hear fit this is not a line from a poem that mataries lot to

ronald reagan. and i watched it like everybody else. and indeed he called me the next day said, how did you know i knew that poem? i didn't, i took a chance. >> dickerson: let me ask you about the writing process. has it changed overall this time or do you still sit down with a keyboard the same way with a typewriter. >> for me, personally, i sit down with a computer the way i did with the typewriter. it's -- >> dickerson: is it easier now? >> i'm shocked to tell you it doesn't. the words have never flown for me. it always seemed like work but very satisfying and delightful work. but still work. but you can't complain. you're trying to describe to people what you see and what is true. then you think you got it right you think, all right. if you get it wrong you hide under your desk. >> dickerson: you listened to

movie sound tracks while you're writing. >> to movie music. dickerson: because it's just -- >> because other music would take me away from my work but movie music is meant to help the story along. and what you're writing when you're writing column or essay you're writing a story. you're writing, this happened, this happened. i think that. >> dickerson: peggy, we look forward to more stories from you and having you at this table.

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steve: former governor martin o'malley taking the democratic party to tasks.

mr. o'malley: one thing that