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this is "nightline." >> tonight, inside the final 30. president mcmullin? >> you want to be president of the united states? >> the independent candidate putting principles over party. >> i couldn't live with my conscience now. >> his bare-bones campaign, bringing him from complete obscurity - twitter followers. >> to a front runner in one republican stronghold. trump land. >> good night, america. you've just elected the last president of the united states. >> michael moore's october surprise documentary on the eve of the election. with an unlikely empathy for trump supporters. >> people have had their lives ruined, so they're mad. >> clinching the top spot on itunes. formation deflation.
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good evening. thank you for joining us. are you in both the never trump and never hillary camps? never fear, there is an independent presidential candidate whose issue-driven campaign is restoring faith to beleaguered voters. he might have a shot at winning several states. here's presidential politics do it yourself style. here's abc's terry moran in our election countdown series "inside the final 30." >> here in salt lake city, it turns out that utah is one of the most interesting stories in this election. in a campaign season so venomous -- >> such a nasty woman. >> the basket of deplorables. >> reporter: so full of sound and fury. >> gop hands off me! >> reporter: divisive. >> the least of two evils. >> lesser of two evils. >> reporter: a lot of voters are asking, is this all there is? all that our democracy can offer? well, no. >> someone has to stand for principle in this race.
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even heard of. evan mcmullin. >> it's a horse race here. what makes utah interesting this year is that the third candidate, who's only on the ballot in 11 states, is neck and neck with trump and hillary. on a quiet street in salt lake city, we visited the modest headquarters of the evan mcmullin for president campaign. >> nice to meet you. >> very nice to meet you. >> we're early. sorry, can we take a b-roll maybe? >> reporter: a far cry from the party funded headquarters of trump or clinton, this has a moment made feel to it. >> we're asking our volunteers to please use hash tags for evan mcmullin. >> i don't know much about snapchat. >> reporter: with little fanfare, there's the candidate. only his running mate, mindy finn, by his side. no private jets here. >> so in terms of seating arrangements what's best for
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>> this is how we roll, exactly. actually, we use uber a lot. >> that's probably a little different than the way trump and hillary are getting around. >> it is. it works, keeps us light and flexible. >> reporter: mcmullin is 40 years old, born in utah, spent ten years in the cia where he says he hunted down al qaeda leaders in the middle east. he was also an investment banker and a house republican staffer. now he's running for president. >> i'm here with the presidential candidate and the vice presidential candidate. no big -- >> oh, i think you're undervaluing these two guys here. they're tough. >> why do you want to be president of the united states? >> well, it's more actually about my belief that we just need better leaders in this country. we stand for the fact that we're the only conservatives in this race and that we stand for the fundamental ideals that have made this country special. >> what are we doing here? we're going to have lunch? >> reporter: hires big h
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burgers with some of the volunteers. >> hey, how's it going? >> i'm terry. >> i'm deborah. >> reporter: the backbone of this unlikely effort. >> this was not what we did, it's what they did. >> also because of the candidates we've got. most americans polled show they're voting holding their noses. >> absolutely. >> you don't have to with this guy. >> no we don't. >> we're so very happy, right? to be able to vote for somebody that i like. >> there's something mr. smith goes to washington about all isn't there? you know the jimmy stewart movie? >> to bring about a healthful life to the growing youth of this great and beautiful land. >> i'm happy with that comparison. >> absolutely. >> we need a new era of civic engagement in which we no longer passively accept the leaders that the two major parties give us, but rather that we need to seek out leaders who are honest and wise and then promote them into office proactively. >> andrew jones wants to say hi.
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>> very nice to meet you. >> thank you so much. >> reporter: mcmullin is a bit of a rock star here. >> i can live with my conscience now with my vote. >> good luck, man. we're behind you. >> reporter: it feels like something is really happening in this state. >> good seeing you. you're the one we need. >> reporter: no handlers. no one to pay for his lunch. >> how goes the campaign? >> so far, so good. >> i love to hear it. >> reporter: it's all sweet for sure, but president evan mcmullin? >> thank at lot, appreciate it. >> reporter: well, yes. a long shot but not >> evan mcmullin cannot win outright but he still has a path to presidency. it starts with winning his home state of utah. and those six electoral votes. and by doing that he needs to block both hillary clinton and donald trump from getting 270 electoral votes and winning the presidency. the election would be tossed to the house of representatives where the republican majority would have to pick a mcmullin over donald trump. >> reporter: back in the carmack mullen reflects on it all.
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twitter followers. then you have people stepping up and engaging online and otherwise to support this campaign. it's humbling. >> i'm evan mcmullin and i'm running for president. >> reporter: mcmullin is campaigning hard in idaho and even taking aim at wyoming. his slogan -- >> it is never too late to do the right thing. >> reporter: in most ways, evan mcmullin is a staunch classic republican conservative. >> we must abide by and honor and secures the god-given rights of all americans. >> reporter: he opposes obamacare, prefers tax cuts to tax hikes. he's a national security hawk and a pro-life candidate who would appoint supreme court justices to overturn roe versus wade. but he says he is more inclusionary. >> we're also offering the american people a new generation of leadership which i think is sorely needed. and also a new conservative movement. a conservative movement that welcomes people of different races and religions into the
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constituency here, the mormon vote, why mormons? >> in the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints there are specific teachings about the leaders one should search for in casting their ballot. in scripture you have the words, leaders who are good, wise and honest should be sought for and upheld. >> reporter: hal boyd is the opinion editor of "the desert news." >> latter-day saints grew up hearing about the mormon pioneers and the persecution that they suffered. while they're n regard to partisan politics, on the matter of religious liberty, they stand strong. >> reporter: draper, utah. a booming salt lake suburb. scene of the night's evan mcmullin rally. it's as big as a major candidate's rally. there's thousands of people here. hi, hello. how are you? >> go evan! >> the national news coming out to cover this? >> we're excited. >> we're going to win utah, that's going to be news in itself. >> that's for real.
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hundred. many enthusiastic for mcmullin's message. >> you're tricked out with evan mcmullin swag. why? >> he's the man. when he first came out with his presidential bid, we were looking for somebody. we weren't excited about anybody. right from the get-go we liked evan mcmullin. >> for me i really look for character, vision, and competent. i think evan mcmullin is a triple threat. >> you guysre you? >> no just groupies. >> we can change reports of our country's history in a very positive way. so thank you very much for your support. utah, thank you! >> reporter: they line up to get a picture with the candidate. for this political rock star in the making, these are potential voters. >> i didn't know a lot about them. i wanted to get a better feel and hear straight from his mouth what he's all about. and i'm leaving a lot more
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surprised. >> reporter: deep down inside every american there's a kind of longing, a sense that it's our birthright to have a do it yourself, homemade, barn-raising, direct democracy. yet here in this high school gymnasium, say whatever you will about evan mcmullin and whether he can win or not, these people, they're doing it. and that's pretty exciting. we say good-bye. >> nice to meet you. >> thanks, nice to meet you too. >> reporter: head back out on the road little bit better about america. for "nightline," i'm terry moran in draper, utah. next, michael moore and his surprise documentary. and his fear of living in trumpland. later, why internet critics are lining up in formation against amy schumer's beyonce tribute video.
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michael moore's documentary "trumpland" was released without warning and without promotion. still it quickly shot to number one on itunes and is sending shock waves across the political landscape. here's my "nightline" coanchor juju chang for more of our series "inside the final 30." >> we're heading to a studio to interview michael moore. he has the number one movie on itunes right now.
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hillary, it's also a surprising appeal to trump voters. >> you know, i have an entourage today because as a working mom you've got to do what you've got to do. there's always talk of october surprises. but nobody was expecting this. michael moore in trumpland. >> before we got people who weren't going to vote at all, how about third-party people? anybody voting for a third-party candidate? >> reporter: one part standup -- >> the conservatives are like, get in the car, we're going to outback! >> reporter: two parts film-making. >> this entire novembery was shot and edited in 11 days. >> reporter: all parts his impassioned plea for america's future. >> good night, america. you've just elected the last president of the united states. >> boys, quiet on the set. come on over. your seat is here. this is a boffo, number one itunes, number one everywhere. >> a week ago it wasn't even a movie, seriously.
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sound mix a week ago today. >> reporter: michael moore, the eternal darling the anti-establishment left, tapping into the same working-class 18er that launched his first film "roger and me" which railed against lost jobs in the auto industry. >> what is he so happy about? we lost our jobs. >> reporter: "bowling for columbine" railed against rampant gun violence. >> they were shot at columbine with bullets from kmart. >> reporter: "fahrenheit 9/11." >> a conference to figure out how much money could be made. >> reporter: which railed against the iraq war. this newest offering showing a softer side. >> the things we don't agree on, all right, you love your guns. i don't want a gun, i don't get a gun, i won't get one. >> it's unexpected in many ways because you sort of expect a left-wing propaganda piece. it's more of an olive branch to trump supporters. >> well, you know, i live in michigan. i grew up with a lot of the
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ruined by the system. so they're mad. they see donald trump as their human molotov cocktail. >> yes, on november 8th, you, joe blow, steve blow, bob blow, billy blow, billy bob blow, all the blows. get to go and blow up the whole [ bleep ] system. because it's your right. >> reporter: but it's a protest vote moore argues we'd regret. >> so when the rightfully angry people of ohio and pennsylvania and wisconsin find out after a few months in office that president trump wasn't going to do a damn thing for them, it will be too late. >> reporter: i was surprised to discover just how deeply moore's views over the years clashed with clinton's. >> you were never a hillary supporter. even through the primary. >> right. no, no, i didn't vote for her in '08, i voted for obama. >> thank you all very much! >> this year i voted for bernie. i didn't vote for bill clinton. back in the '90s.
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conservative democrat. i've never been a fan of them politically. but i've always admired and respected them as people. as human beings. >> universal coverage now -- >> reporter: he says he grew to admire the former first lady's passion for universal health care. the topic of moore's own 2007 film "sicko." >> hillary rodham clinton decided to make health care for everyone her top priority. >> why is her push in health care so moving to put her neck right there on the chopping block so that we, all of us, would have universal health care. and she was destroyed for it. 1 million people have died in america, 1 million of our fellow americans have died since she tried to get us all universal health care. i've never forgotten what she tried to do for us and the hell she had to pay for it. in a couple of weeks we have a chance to redeem ourselves with
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but definitely timely as obamacare comes under renewed attack. >> the obama administration just today confirming double-digit rate hikes for obama care for next year. it's no doubt going to be an election issue for the last two weeks. something that hillary clinton is going to have to defend. obamacare is unpopular and michael moore is keenly aware of why clinton is too. >> benghazi. okay, benghazi. yes. oh, she's been cleared of the charges six times. that's not enough! >> are you trying to trump supporters? are you trying to appeal to bernie supporters? or both? >> i'm trying to convince people who are not going to vote to vote. i'm trying to say to fellow bernie supporters, come on, she ain't that bad. i'm trying to say to the people who are going to vote two parties, we do need more than two parties in this country, this isn't the year to throw your vote away. i am saying to the guys i grew up with, this guy is not going to do what he's promising to do, and this woman is going to do something profound for our kids
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>> you once famously said democracy is not a spectate are sport. >> yes. 30 years ago i said this. if people stay home, they're saying 50% will stay home, you're essentially anti-american and you're anti-democracy if you're not going to participate. >> we're all americans, right? let's just start there. regardless who we're voting for, right? we're on the same boat. and we're going to sink or swim together. and i'd rather we swim. >> do you think this might have an outcome on the >> you're like the russians trying to influence the election? >> yes. except i'm more -- >> except you're an american citizen? >> yes, i'm more like russian dressing, you know? >> very funny. >> reporter: for "nightline" i'm juju chang in new york. when we come back, we go inside the amy schumer formation tribute fail?
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finally tonight, amy schumer under attack for making a lemon out of "lemonade." ? ? naughty mess ? >> reporter: coming under fire for her version of beyonce's "formation" starring goldie hawn, wanda sykes, and zojoan cusack. beyonce's tribute to black culture note my daddy alabama my mother louisiana ? >> reporter: the twisht backlash severe, one calling schumer's video racist. another writing, there's no possible excuse for amy schumer in the not to know the cultural significance for black women. the parody video released on jay-z's title has twice as many negative votes as positive on youtube. schumer brushing off criticism
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expletive when you cause all this conversation. thanks for the exclusive release tidal, we had so much fun making this video. ? let get in formation ? >> reporter: whether pure parody, ignored it's not. it was actor and comedian roseanne barr who said, imitation is the sincerest form of -- show business. thank you for watching abc news. as always we're online at facebook page. thanks for the company, america. good night. "the insider" tracking the biggest stories making news today. ?? number one, amy's formation comes under fire. >> i think if you think it's funny, you should say it, and not apologize for it.

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