captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> welcome to "journal," here in berlin. these are our top stories. fifa announces the host of the 2018 and 2022 world cup. >> qantas threatens legal losses -- legal action against rolls-royce for its losses. >> we began it with the

announcement that russia is to host the world cup in 2018 with the gulf state of qatar winning the right to host the 2020 to a tournament. them the president is a traveling to thank the organization for choosing his country. the announcement was made a couple of hours ago. >> the 2018 world cup will be in russia. >> the russian delegation understandably delighted by the results, a result that caught many of the other candidates by surprise. their presentation was not thought to be the pick of the bunch. the executive committee decided to go forward and chartered a territory. >> i can promise, we all can promise, you will never regret. let us make history together. [applause]

>> russian president vladimir putin decided not to travel to zurich for the announcement. he said that the corruption scandal was a smear campaign. his presence was not necessary to win. the russian candidacy clearly stood out as the most attractive to soccer's governing body. they have lined up sponsors should money in the millions of dollars. the outlay will be substantial, some $4 billion will be needed to build a 13 stadiums and improve transport connections across russia. four years after the winter olympics, russia will post a global sports extravaganza. -- host a global sports extravaganza. >> we are joined from moscow by our correspondent. >> i imagine that people here

are delighted. i think that this is being seen as a personal victory for vladimir putin, the prime minister. he was very closely associated with the russian bid. he will be flying to zurich soon. the other thing about this is that this is another boost for the russian economy because it will involve overhauling the country's aging soviet infrastructure and that will require billions of euros at it appears that one now be lined up. >> that is one of the issues in the buildup to the tournament in the making. are there any doubt that russia can stage a successful tournament? >> there certainly are. they have not had a great deal of experience of this in the past. the last time they hosted a tournament of this size was in 1980. that was the summer olympics when they where the summer -- soviet union. there's also the problem of

corruption. that is something that is likely to affect construction. this could cause delays and a lot of the money could actually disappear. a lot of concerns are also about racism. there has been some disturbing incidences' involving fans making racist jobs to -- racist jibs to some players. russia is very happy tonight. >> thank you for that report from the russian capital, moscow. we have already seen, qatar will be staging the 2022 world cup. this is another interesting decision with the country being staged in a country that does not have much of a soccer pedigree. this is a daring decision on the part of the fee for executives. -- fifa executives. >> anticipation was high when

the president stepped up to announce the winner. >> qatar. >> the matter which team wins the world cup, the fact that they were chosen as host for the 2020 to avert it -- tournament is a victory in itself. for soccer fans back home, this is a dream come true. some of the 13 stadiums where the games will be played will be newly built, high-tech wonders, which will include air- conditioning. this is crucial in a country where temperatures can reach 50 degrees celsius. never before has a tournament hosted in such a hot climate. many were surprised that qatar applied to host the games. they are not exactly a heavyweight in the world of football but there is no doubt that the oil and gas-rich land will stand up to the occasion.

this will be a task for one of the richest countries in the world. >> let's go to our sports correspondent who is with us in the studio. qatar is certainly a traumatic departure. what do you make of this? >> this is very interesting. -- qatar is certainly a dramatic departure. >> they have come up with some very interesting proposals. first of all, the heat. we all know how hot it is in the middle east. it will be in the middle of summer. they are pumping $4 billion into the new stadiums and they will have cooling systems. they are guaranteeing that it will never be over 27 degrees. they have solar panels which will cooled liquid and they will pump out water and pump cold air into the stadiums. it is very interesting. this will also be in the training grounds. this will be a green as and and

with a new technology. 20 of the stadiums will be within 25 kilometers of each other. it will be very easy to get around them. >> what about russia, 2018? what are the concerns? >> first, they have a direct comparison to qatar. they are the biggest country in the world. if you have stadiums in st. petersburg, to vast areas. a vast expanse that people have to travel. russia has not got the best infrastructure in the world. they have said that they will invest in this. there are security concerns. crime is always an issue in russia. of course, there have been terrorist attacks in russia. all of these things will weigh on people's minds. >> after all of that we have heard from 0 to today, what is your take on whether this was

entirely above board? >> -- after all that we have heard from zurich today. >> we have rarely seen things going on behind the scenes like we did in this process. especially the allegations that have come out. the english press has announced a few different things. there was a bbc documentary that might have harmed the english bid. we possibly will never be it -- know what goes on behind these closed doors. i don't think that everything was above board. that is the way it looks. this has been a bit tainted, i would say. >> thank you very much for that. we move away from the world cup and we go to israel. tragedy in israel where emergency services say that 40 people have been killed in a massive forest fire. this broke out in the north of the country near haifa.

the dead or prison guards who died when their bus was trapped by the flames. they had been brought in to evacuate 500rom a nearby jail. it is a difficult day on the roads here in the german capital. there have been freezing temperatures around the country going right down to - to allow any degrees celsius. -- to 20 degrees celsius. 18 people have died in the past two days in poland. >> berlin is covered in a blanket of the white stuff with a 10-18 centimeters in places. this is a joy for tourists. for commuters, this is a challenge to say the least with dozens of accidents across the capitol. treacherous conditions were the order of the day across much of central europe like here in the czech republic.

dozens of trucks have been stuck in the snow for hours. >> this is a crazy situation with some much of snow and semitrucks stock and no one to clear the roads. they are still sleeping or they don't know what is going on. i have been waiting for hours. >> western europe has not been scared either. belgium saw traffic jams of up to 500 kilometers mainly around brussels. france has been turned into a winter wonderland. that is short shrift for those who are stuck across the country. there is little choice for rail travelers like here at this paris rail stations. one of the three trains from brussels and the capital were stock -- stuck. delays and cancellations hit airports in paris, munich, and

berlin. gatwick airport was closed for the second day in a row. there is no end to the traffic chaos in sight yet with more snow forecast well into the weekend. >> we have seen some very dramatic news on the soccer world cup today, there has also been a very interesting meeting in frankfurt. >> it has been a very busy day. this is a meeting of the european central bank. they are trying to shore up confidence in the european central currency. they kept interest rates on hold at 1%. this news was expected. they resisted pressure to commit to a massive bond program to contain the debt crisis. the president jean-claude trichet said that the bank would keep the costs of borrowing steady in that they desire to create a liquidity safety net.

>> they kept the interest rate on hold and this was widely expected and was the decision to give thanks liquidity until well next year. they did not pledge to step up the pace of purchasing government bonds. since may, they have bought 67 billion euros of government bonds but jean-claude trichet said that the program would not continue indefinitely. >> [inaudible] >> stocks led the broader european market higher. our correspondent has more on today's trading from the frankfurt stock exchange. >> it is an interesting trading session. add to the end of the day, the stocks added more than 1.3%. all eyes were on the ecb today. what is on cloud two shea had to say about purchase programs as

well. -- what jean-claude trichet had to say about purchase programs today. he did not want to comment on how much. they are extending liquidity lines until the end of the first quarter. the crisis is totally over for siemens. they are posting record profit. that is something which people benefited most from because the salary is a whopping 9 million euros last year. >> looking at several markets in more detail, the dax closed up 1 and 1/3 percent. the euros on stocks actually closed up over 2%. in new york, investors are cheering. strong sales data from the automobile and the mortgage home lending sections. australian airline qantas was

said to sue a rolls-royce for damages resulting from an engine failure on one of its airbus super jumbo jets. they have filed a claim in a federal court in australia over the financial and commercial -- of this incident. a panel has concluded that the failure was the result of manufacturing defects in the rolls-royce engine. >> it was a narrow escape for passengers and crew on this qantas light in the beginning of november after one of the rolls royce engines exploded in mid- air. the transport bureau said that a manufacturing failure caused the error. >> this made a potential for a fatigue program for the oil pipe that releases of oil into the engine and that led to the consequences that we saw. >> after the incident, qantas grounded its fleet of the same aircraft for three weeks. numerous flights were canceled

and some super jumbo jets remained out of operation. they have filed an initial claim against rolls-royce for the loss in revenue at the resulting costs. they are still assessing the extent of the damage. they said they will sue rolls- royce if they are unable to reach an out-of-court settlement with the company. >> a new report that has just come out suggest that many people in germany are far from open minded when it comes to islam. the report which was put together by ss elegist at the university of munster, only 5% see islam as tolerant. -- to report which was put together by a sociologists at the university of monster. >> surveys showed 2/3 of germans

have a negative view of islam. >> the reason is that germans have less contact than the french do. the east germans have even less contact and west germans. that is not the only explanation. muslims and france are also better integrated in france than they are in germany. they speak french, for example. >> less than 30% of germans supported the building of mosques. they have problems accepting other religions even though they attach importance to freedom of religion and speech. >> another reason could be a cultural of political discussion is more developed because of what has happened there. they have dealt with the issue of rising populism in a construction -- in a constructive way. that is only beginning in germany. >> analysts say the only way to bridge the cultural gap is through more education for both sides. >> up next, more business.

>> german automobile companies are really selling a lot. very strong models. >> ok, statement. >> quite remarkable, actually. -- okay, stay tuned. >> dear america. >> dear, china. >> dear, germany. >> in der, india. >> please. >> please. >> please. >> please.

>> please. >> please free the world from -- >> welcome back. german automobile makers have long feared that sales would continue to slump but now it looks like 2010 will turn out to be a record year instead. at home, turnover remains sluggish but outside the country demand for german models is soaring. >> these buyers or are a bonanza for german car makers, especially luxury brands like bmw and audi. four out of five luxury cars purchased in china are produced by germany. diamler sauce sales go up 2 1/2%. -- saw sales go up 2.5%.

they expect an increase in exports to the far east. >> it is clear that five or six years ago, china was an emerging market. now this is one of the most important automobile markets and the world and we're pleased that the german car industry accounts for 1/5 of the vehicles sold there. >> some analysts contend that german car makers are focusing too much on china and neglecting the european market. >> german automobiles remain extremely popular in the u.s.. november was a boom month for german car makers there. volkswagen posted a 24% jump of sales in november compared with a year earlier. bmw reported a similar surge. mercedes sold 13% more viewers in november. -- vehicles in november.

u.s. manufacturers have also announced an increase in sales. toyota has seen a decline due to a manufacturing recall. the automobile market is not the only sector in the u.s. is recovering. let's go over to our correspondent on wall street. it looks as though consumers are starting to go on a buying spree this holiday season. how was the market digesting that? >> well, we got sales figures from the retail sector. we saw a broad gains. if you look at department stores like macy's, if you look at the numbers from limited brands which owns victoria's secret, if you look at abercrombie and fitch, all of those companies did pretty well. this comes at a crucial time, right in the middle of the holiday shopping season. we saw a broad-based gains and

some of those retailers are doing pretty well. >> i see that coca-cola major rival pepsi is having a rough go out of it in the russian market but those things could change, couldn't they? >> yes, they could become one of the market leaders, actually. in russia, pepsi is going to purchase 66% in a russian company. they specialize in dairy products and also in juice and a toddler and baby food. pepsi is paying $3.8 billion for this 66% stake this is not really cheap acquisition. pepsi is hoping to gain market share if not to become the market leader in some of those areas in russia. >> i see that the dow is up once again. what is really driving the market?

>> well, this seems so far for the month of december is the euro. we caught -- we saw euro weakness in the month of november when it dropped almost 9% in comparison to the dollar. that changed with the month of december. already on wednesday, we saw the euro recovering. this continues on thursday and there is relative dollar weakness together with those retell figures. those are the main reasons why the market is trading higher here on thursday. >> thank you very much for that update. the siemens corp. is holding its breath today as the eu transport ministers meet. the tunnel is expected to be high on the agenda. siemens has been commissioned to build trains for the tunnel. a french company has complained about this contract.

the trains will have to be delivered in the coming year by contract. >> trains and trams have been built here for decades. this is by far the fastest. this is a high-speed train that easily exceed 300 kilometers an hour or will when the new model finally hits the tracks. an engineer has worked here for two decades. it is his job to make sure that the velaro is delivered on time. >> the train rose day-by-day like a pyramid. when you look at the length of the carriages, you can see that each one is in a different stage of production. >> they are assembled piece by piece. these are going to deutsche a bonn. the gaps can not be too big. >> error comes out here.

the window should not steam over. -- air comes out here. >> everything is time so the required construction parts are delivered precisely when they are needed. today, the engineer has a problem. some important materials have not arrived -- the cabling. the whole production schedule is at risk. >> maybe there are problems with the loading. it happens. i will have task. >> the cable harness finally arrives ready to be attached underneath the train. 120 kilometers in total weighing 5 tons. the train is already running in russia at temperatures as low as minus 15 degrees celsius. in spain, it has to contend with temperatures of 50 degrees above zero. this is a truly european train with compatibility in a number

of countries. they would like to sell this beyond that the european borders. >> in china, there is a significant expansion of the high-speed rail networks. look at russia, they have the second-largest network in the world. it is unlikely that they will stop at to the 8 trains they have fought so far. -- they have bought so far. >> manufacturing is at full capacity, so the company is looking to recruit new workers here, especially engineers. they would like to have these riding the rails in germany by next year. >> the operator of the eurotunnel is confronted with a number of challenges. the route under the english channel is not really as lucrative as many as hoped. the prospects are good. our number cruncher reveals more. >> 640 million euros, that is the amount of sales posted by

the operator of the eurotunnel last year. the total declined 16% from the previous year. fire and weather problems triggered cancellations. demand for the train is growing. in 2009, it carried almost 8 million passengers. 3 million additional passengers are expected to travel through the tunnel in 2013 when the german rail giant launches its own service to britain. >> deutsche bank is planning to sell off its headquarters in frankfurt. in 2007, they bought the two glass 36-story office buildings and for over to let its 70 million euros. the rising prices of real estate in the capital, they should be able to make some of the money back from the sale of this. insiders expect the company to lease the property back from the new owners. that is the latest business

news. thank you for joining us and have a pleasant day.

♪ - hi, this is bob scully, and welcome to another edition of the world show, our hidden angels series. that's the name we've decided to give to a number of shows devoted to special-needs children, and we're doing this, of course, as a tribute to the hidden angel

foundation, a foundation in alabama and all over the world devoted to providing multi-sensory environments for special-needs children, started by sandra fornes and bud kirchner, and while we were working on that documentary that we're preparing on the hidden angel foundation, we met some hidden angels. we met some remarkable people in alabama who have that marvellous sixth sense where special-needs children are concerned. they can get them to talk, express themselves, they can bring out that great sense of humour, and they do it with their own sense of humour and their own sense of humanity. here, then, this week, is dr. jan rowe, professor of occupational therapy at the university of alabama, with her story. dr. rowe, i think medicine and all the health sciences can be rather proud of the advances made in our treatment of children in paediatrics over the years. there was a time... i mean, you read these horror stories of the 19th century where children were just seen

as a nuisance and little adults, and when they had an illness to go with that, it was even worse. but from where you sit, how has paediatrics evolved these past few years? - well, there's been substantial change with regard to occupational therapy in the medical field. i first became an occupational therapist in 1982, and moved to alabama in 1983. i've worked with many populations, but the majority of my practice has been in paediatrics. but i have to say, as late as the 1990s--'95, '96-- we still had physicians in this town, in this state, and even in this country, who were advising parents to institutionalize their children, which is incredulous when you think about it. - mm-hmm. - while we've grown a lot and we know have policies in place for children with disabilities to receive services from birth to three years of age, from

three years to 21 years of age, there's been tremendous growth, but at the same time, we still have a long way to go. we have children now who are being educated that before 1975 didn't have that opportunity, but we still have a long way to go for our young adults, because once they turn 21, there's really not any service in place for them at that point. so cupational therapy, like all of the other medical professions, we've made great strides, but we still have work to do in that area. - and when children are disabled and have a difficulty communicating, or perhaps less intellectual development, is it still a truism that other children will taunt them and have trouble accepting them? or is that an exaggeration. - um, i think it's probably a little bit of both. i do some independent evaluations for the state of alabama for the educational system, and unfortunately i get called in

when parents are not happy with the services that their children are getting, so i go in as an objective reviewer and review the system and the services that the child is getting, and then make recommendations for them. and what i've found--i've been doing this for about 15 years as part of my role as a faculty member--and what i've seen over the years is that children of all ages and all abilities are much more welcoming now of children with disabilities because it's kind of commonplace, you know. they're used to seeing the kids with disabilities in their school. when i was in high school, we only saw those kids with disabilities at lunch, or you only saw them if there was some type of auditorium presentation, but now, kids are pretty used to seeing them at all times of day, every single day of the week. that said, there still is a lot of bullying, there still is a lot of... kind of taunting, especially of children with disabilities who have a certain level of ability and they're more included in the regular

classrooms. - they can't quite keep up. - exactly, and so they may not have the judgment to know--if there's a group of guys or a group of girls are wanting them to do something that might be kind of silly and get them in trouble--they may not have the judgment not to do that, and so to be liked and to be included with that group of typical kids, they would go ahead and perform the action or the behaviour. - and institutionalization that cuts them off from family, everybody agrees that's bad, but as for, let's say, daytime institutionalization versus being plunged in the general population of a school, where does that stand? what's considered better? - well, that's the million- dollar question--inclusion, or some type of bridge between inclusion and more segregated services. parents in this country now are firm believers that their children need to be included--they need to be included with their peers, they

need to have the same overall educational opportunities as everybody else. i tell my ot students all the time that it's not just about the child learning how to read and write and hold their pencil correctly; it's that entire educational experience. for instance, i saw a young woman several years ago who was 19 years of age and had a year left in high school before she graduated. she was a gifted student in the gifted program. she had a spinal cord injury, and in order for her to continue to be with the gifted program, she had to have someone with her, because she didn't know how to self-catheterize herself. so she had to have an adult with her that was trained that could catheterize her if they went away for trips with the gifted program. well, it became a real hardship, and so she actually had to drop out of the gifted program simply because she had never been taught to self-catheterize. - and she probably could have done it. - she could have done it. she

had the intellectual ability. she had the physical fine motor skills to do it. she just didn't know, and her mother didn't know. so it's not just about being in the classroom with other children, but you need the field trips and, uh... the girls' bathroom--i mean, there's a whole education in going to the girls' bathroom. you know, you learn to cuss and smoke and everything else in the girls' bathroom--or the boys' bathroom, for that matter. so it's about that entire experience, and so if children only know other children with disabilities, and some of those children are verbal and some are not, but they're never around typical peers, they don't learn from that experience. - and do we still try to prepare as many of them as we can for some kind of employment? because i've heard sometimes that can go really wrong. i mean, you can push them too hard. or, at the same time, sometimes you don't push them hard enough, or you don't push employers hard enough to make the effort. - right. well, with the new--the latest-- amendment to the idea legislation, there's actually

a transition service built in to that piece of legislation, and so all transition services for children with an iep has to start by the age of 16. - what's iep? - an iep is an individualized educational plan, and so children that are eligible for special education all have an iep. and so you can make recommendations for that child to begin to have transition services at the age of 16, but for some children, they're going to need a lot more practice, they're going to need a lot more rehearsal, in order to become competent in those transition skills, and what i mean by that are things like independent living skills, so learning how to cook for themselves, learning how to do their own wash, learning how to maybe write a cheque or manage money. so those are the skills that we look at, starting at about 16 years of age, to get them ready for some time of employment. not all children can go on then to become independently employed and to be earning money, but

they might be in some type of job-supported program where they have a job coach that can be with them and maybe cue them-- if they start to get too anxious, maybe that person has some cueing systems that can allow them to kind of back off from the situation, get under control, take a break, walk around for a few minutes, and then come back and finish their job. - and does it take an exceptionally generous employer--i'm not talking about the cost, because the program might cover that, the extra cost--but it takes... it's a little bit analogous to other situations where they tell us, for instance--i mean, this is different, but i'm going to say the analogy anyway--that you should try to hire ex-convicts, because they'll become convicts again if you don't. if nobody gives them jobs, that's where it ends up. and so, in the case of these kids, are there employers out there who are "nice enough", quote unquote, to give them a try? - there are, and what it takes is a couple of employers, a couple of businesses, to model that it can be done, and that it can be done well, and then other

people are more open to doing that, but you have to start with somebody. there's actually a wonderful company here in birmingham that was family- owned, has grown--they have about 100 employees--and at any given time have eight to ten percent of their employee base of people with disabilities. and they have an occupational therapist on staff. - what does the company do? - they are a mass mailing company. they, next to the post office, handle more mail than anybody else in the state of alabama. - and so at the skill level of some of these kids, they're able to give them tasks. - exactly. so they have young adults, 21 and over, that they work with, and then they also have some older adults that they work with. they have two individuals that have autism, they have one man with a severe hearing impairment, they've had employees that have had strokes that have returned to work. their occupational therapist looks at their worksite accommodations and makes those

accommodations for them if they need it. they might need some type of schedule for the day if they have cognitive issues--just something to follow and keep them on task. so it's companies like that, i think, that really set a nice model for others to look at and look to if they're interested in doing that. - and in some cases, you might even get qualities you wouldn't find in your regular joe... - absolutely. - ...who's just thinking about, you know, emailing his buddies, or off to get a beer at the first chance. i mean, they might actually be, in a sense, more hardworking or more loyal. - absolutely, and if you ask the president of that particular company, she would tell you that her employees that have any kind of special need are some of her most devoted employees, and she has a good number of employees that have been with her for 20 years or more, and even with that, many of her employees with disabilities are some of her best workers. - and i was talking the other day to somebody who takes care-- in a spectacular facility here in birmingham called ucp, right?

- correct. - united cerebral palsy. and he was pointing out they have all ages there. - they do. - and he was pointing out that, when we think of family--and it's a daycare center; they don't overnight there--but he said that as they grow older, it becomes dramatic, because the family is older too-- the parents might be 80. - that's right. - what happens in situations like that? - well, it's an interesting phenomenon, because a lot of therapists like myself, we get into the work of paediatrics when we're young, and we enjoy working with children, and the one thing that we find over our own years of work is that those same children continue to grow older just like we do. - mm-hmm. - and so, while i love working with babies and toddlers and young children, i also have loved in my years watching those children grow up, because the down syndrome, the cerebral palsy, the genetic disorder, whatever it is, it doesn't go away. so there was that three-

year-old with down syndrome that is now 53 and still has down syndrome, and they have a totally different set of needs, so it's nice that we have here in town places like ucp that have programs for individuals-- young adults or children of all ages. but the burden is also very much so and very present for the family members, because, as i mentioned earlier, once you turn 21, then there are not a lot of services available to you when nothing really has changed magically between that 20th and 21st birthday. it's just that there's no legislation in place for anything to still continue. so you have to be very resourceful, and you look to a lot of non-profit organizations--vsa arts, you look to the exceptional foundation, you look to ucp of greater birmingham-- - but is there an attempt... it struck me what you were saying earlier--teaching somebody like that to write a cheque, to lock their doors, i guess, and not

to leave the stove on--things like that. is there a movement to try to make them economists? i'm sure that's not possible in every case, but is it possible in some cases? - there is, and i think the best hope for that is if school system therapists are looking towards that independence, that level of independence for whatever kind of independent living or semi-independent living that that person could have once they graduate from school. so in those last few years of school, that would be an important time to capitalize on those skills, and then a lot of these programs around town would also work on that. i know gary edwards, his program at ucp--in their adult program, they spend a lot of time on independent living skills--on cooking, and making beds, and just safety skills--you know, what happens when somebody comes to the door? how do you know if it's a stranger or how do you know if it's somebody that you want to invite in without just opening the door? so, yeah, there is an emphasis on that, and that's obviously the stuff that parents worry about, too. - for sure, when they're

no longer there. - right. - and can i ask you--we're always asking people their most memorable encounter--what is your most memorable encounter with a child that you can think of? - i guess my most memorable encounter would be a time that i went to a preschool classroom. i was actually in the capacity of a volunteer as an animal- assisted partner. i have a king charles cavalier spaniel-- i actually have two, and they're both registered as pet partners. and i had one of them, my oldest cavalier, with me, and we went to a preschool class with aboute was a little girl that was sitting in the classroom that was selectively mute, and she hadn't spoken in months. she had a very long history of neglect and abuse. she was three years old at the time, and she was very observant. she watched me, she watched my dog, she watched the other children. she didn't say a word. she didn't make a sound.

and kind of the protocol is we went in and we would sit on the floor, and the children would come up to my dog and i, and they could look at her photo book, and they could help brush her, and they could pet her. and the little girl sat on the outskirts, on the periphery, and she watched everything. so, our 30 minutes was over. i got up to leave, and all the other children were petting my dog, saying goodbye. we walked by the little girl, who never joined our circle, and she reached her hand out and touched my dog, mia, and said goodbye. and that, to my knowledge, was the first time the child had spoken in, like i said, these many months. now, was that the presence of the dog? was it just the day that she was going to speak? i don't know. but it was pretty powerful. - yes, that's what counts. dr. rowe, thank you so much. - thank you. - dr. jan rowe of the university of alabama was our guest this week on the hidden angels series of the world show, and coming soon in the same series, two revolutionaries: two scientists who changed the world in which special

needs children live forever. ad verheul and jan hulsegge came upon their discovery about 36 years ago almost by chance. they were observing these children and how unhappy they were in holland in a hospital where they worked, and they suddenly came up with certain techniques that created a real revolution, so that'll be coming soon. here's an excerpt. - the severe, profoundly handicapped people stayed the whole day in bed doing nothing, and that was for us the first challenge to develop new ideas, and it started very simply: what happens in certain environments? it was a very passive environment, like a hospital. we started to change--or try to change--the environment. we created, in a very simple way, mobiles, with textiles and little elements, and put them above the beds. and what we saw for the first time was a little subtle reaction of this man or woman who lies in the bed. and, especially at that time, the parents of this child,

for the first time they saw their own son or daughter give a reaction when something was happening in the environment. up until that moment, the parents had accepted their daughter or son as a passive human being. they were happy that the nursing staff took care of them, but nothing further happened. and then, through this idea, for the first time, parents saw that "development"-- very small, but there was a small development. the next step was to ask members of staff, is it possible that we can take this guy outside? but this was the first time, and it was one bridge too far, because they were so anxious that he'd catch a cold, or the sun was too hot--always this thinking about protecting another human being. but maybe it's wonderful to be outside when the sun is hot, to be outside when it's freezing

weather, but that was a very big--i'd say, battle... - yeah. - ...between us and the general members of the staff. you can use neusilin or multi- sensory stimulation for a child who is very passive, and you could use this also for a child or human being who is aggressive, who has very hyperactive behaviour. the first one was passive and becomes active, and the guy who was aggressive and hyperactive can become quiet. you can use the same elements for another purpose. we did some scientific research, in which you see that you stabilize the negative process, but you never can stop it. it's not like medicine. you can't say e-mycin is a medicine for people with dementia. i think you give them a happier world, and also for the members of staff,

that's also one of the results of the scientific research. - and here's something else coming up on our program. - israel's also surrounded by good and decent people. many of the palestinians that i have met on the west bank--and i modelled, obviously, one of the characters after a human rights person on the west bank who i've had contact with and who i admire enormously--i find there are so many good people on the west bank, and i'm sure there are many good people who live in gaza, too--unfortunately, they're under the thumb of terrible people in hamas. and there are very good people in lebanon, but they're under the terrible control of hezbollah, which is ultimately under the control of ahmadinejad and the iranian mulazin. it's the leadership that worry me, not the people themselves. i think many of the people in the middle east are good and decent people who want good futures for their children, and they can have it. i recently went to the west bank and visited with the prime minister of palestine, and i saw in ramallah real

progress and a beautiful city with high technology and good restaurants, and it presents a model of what the west bank could look like if the palestinian authority would only recognize israel's right to exist as the state nation of the jewish people, and make a real peace, not the kind of peace that's just a tactic designed to ultimately turn israel into yet another palestinian or arab state. so i'm not pessimistic. i'm realistic, but my realism is tinged by optimism because of my contact with good and decent people on all sides. absolutely, and, of course, iran has a long history of a middle class, and secularism, and feminism. it goes back well before the shah. the united states made its share of mistakes in propping up dictators, and then carter's failures in dealing with the emerging revolution in iran. we've made our share

of mistakes, but there is a core of very, very good secular, intelligent, egalitarian people in iran waiting for an opportunity to bring that country into the 21st century, and i'm hoping, of course, that there will be a change of regime, and an internally-produced revolution, but if that doesn't happen, there's going to have to be some external measures to prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons. an iran with nuclear weapons is a game changer. it will cause the end of nuclear non-proliferation. it will start an arms race. it will increase terrorism, and it will make peace impossible in the middle east, even if israel makes peace with the palestinians. the 800- pound gorilla, soon to become a 10,000-pound gorilla, is iran with its nuclear weapons. - bill ginsberg was a very complex character. i mean, certainly one of the most amusing scenes to me is where bernie lewinsky, monica's

father, is talking about the hiring of ginsberg. he's at a conference and he gets the call about monica being detained by the federal prosecutors. ginsberg happens to be there. he's basically a medical malpractice and swimming pool accident lawyer, but as he says--bernie lewinsky said, "well, if you get appendicitis in africa in the middle of the jungle, you take what you have there to treat you. it may not be the best, but you deal with it. and i had bill ginsberg". and so it was someone he knew and trusted--clearly the wrong person for the job, but he did drive the other side crazy. i think if you were to ask monica and her mother, for instance, who, ultimately, were dealing with him on a regular basis in washington, they just could not deal with his... you know, he certainly enjoyed being on television and doing all of these things, and there came to be a point where they thought that he was more interested

in continuing to get a lot of attention for this rather than making it go away for her. but there was something about bill ginsberg, wasn't there, bob? i mean, his whole thesis was that monica should just stand tough and no one was ever going to indict her, because this was horrendous that the starr people were trying to find out her private secrets about her sexual relationship. but i guess at the end of the day, easy for you to say, but if you're the person potentially going to jail, that isn't necessarily what you want to hear. - the statistic is not that 70% of the time when the defendant testifies, he or she gets acquitted; it's that 70% of acquittals come when the defendant is testifying, and there are plenty of cases where a lying defendant gets him or herself into all kinds of hot water, and, generally speaking, the truism about the criminal justice system, if it's working at all, is that people accused

of a crime should be guilty. and most of them are, and therefore there's not a lot that they can say on their own behalf, so defence lawyers don't like to see them on the witness stand unless it's somebody like rusty sabich, who is an esteemed judge and somebody that a jury would assume could speak for himself. the jury system is always somewhat controversial, because there's complex ideas that they don't seem to be able to digest as a group, and yet there is a kind of wisdom about human experience that juries always possess. and they're not so great when they've got to figure out the intricacies of patent law, but they're terrific when it comes down to understanding motive, and it's because the

jury as a body is 500 years old. - ad verheul and jan hulsegge will be guests soon on the hidden angels series of the world show. in that same series, you met our guest today, dr. jan rowe of the university of alabama, and that's our program for this week. i'm bob scully. have a great week. thanks. closed captioning by sette inc.