>> hello, everyone. welcome to the journal. i am meggin leigh in berlin. >> i am steve chaid with the business news. >> coming up, a british court granted bail for wikileaks founder julian assange, but he has to stay in custody while swedish authorities appeal. italy's prime minister silvio berlusconi survived a vote of no-confidence. and germany's business leaders say they are dissatisfied with the country's governing coalition. ♪ >> a court in london has granted wikileaks founder julian assange bail, but he must remain in jail

pending an appeal by swedish authorities against the decision. he will also have to put up over 200,000 bell money if he wants to be freed. a hearing is set to take place within 40 hours. assange's lawyer says proceedings are turning into a show trial. >> it was a dramatic than the growing legal tug-of-war surrounding wikileaks founder julian assange. he will remain behind bars, pending an appeal by swedish prosecutors. that hearing is expected within 48 hours. earlier in the day, and it looked like assange would be able to leave prison. he was granted bail under strict conditions. >> the first is that he live and sleep each night at a particular address, which is given to the court. the second, that he has to be in that property between certain hours of the day and night, so he can be geo-position with

electronic monitoring clemmons. >> assange was taken into custody last week. he is wanted under an eu-wide warrant. swedish officials have charged him in connection with sex crimes committed against two women. lawyers for the 39-year-old maintain both charges are politically motivated. assange says the u.s. government is trying to punish him for his publication of secret documents. >> he is very worried about his colleagues at wikileaks, but he understands that the organization is functioning. >> supporters continue to stand vigil outside the jail where assange is being detained. they say it is obvious that the political elements have continued his incarceration. >> with sweden appealing the decision to grant bail, i asked our correspondent in london what happens next. >> it is considered unlikely that this appeal will be granted. so julian assange can hope that

he can leave prison within a couple of days. then he will actually have to appear in court again on january 11. until then, he has to surrender his passport and adhere to a curfew and where electronic tags. later on, there's another big court hearing which decides whether he will be extradited to sweden. so this is a big question in the weeks to come. >> we understand he has related to define message through his mother. what can you tell us? >> australian media have an interview with his mother, and then have been reporting on a statement that she had a 10- minute phone conversation with her son, and he delivered a statement -- she says that his convictions are on faltering. uses, i remain true to the ideals that had expressed any circumstance shall not shake them. if anything, this process has

increased my determination that they are true and correct. he goes on to attack paypal, visa, and mastercard, their instand he called for protection of his work. >> thank you for the update. a protest broke out in rome after italian prime minister silvio berlusconi narrowly won back-to-back no-confidence votes in parliament. they had used tear gas to stop angry demonstrators from smashing windows and setting cars on fire. around 50 people, including police officers, were injured. silvio berlusconi survive the lower house no-confidence motion by just three votes. he had a more comfortable victory in the senate. >> berlusconi was visibly nervous as the voting proceeded. after weeks of maneuvering, many legislators were also on edge. just before the vote, the opposition once again leveled serious charges.

>> no matter how the vote in its, mr. prime minister, we can be sure of one thing, you but these votes, and you should no longer govern. >> the prime minister then left the chamber. the senate backed him by a comfortable margin. it was a different story in the lower house, where he survived with a razor-thin margin of just three votes. the session was briefly suspended amid an uproar. the results embarrassed parliamentary speaker and former berlusconi ally who sparked the government crisis in july by forming his own political grouping. so it political reprieve for the prime minister. on the streets of rahm, public opinion is divided. >> i agree with berlusconi, so i am had with the outcome. >> that is democracy.

i am not surprised by the results. but if you ask me if i am happy, no, i am not. >> opponents gathered outside parliament in rome, hoping he would be forced to resign. anger boiled over when the results were announced. scores of protesters clashed with police, smashing car windows and setting cars on fire. >> we will be taking an in- depth look at the silvio berlusconi and a talent politics coming up later on in our program. -- and in italian politics. another convoy over radioactive waste has left france down for a storage site in northern germany. the shipment is scheduled to reach the facility near the polish border by thursday. heavy security has been put in place, and demonstrations are expected to last month, germany saw widespread protests against another nuclear waste shipment

to another storage facility. welcome a crisis as been averted in the european union. members have agreed on next year's budget for the block. for some, it is less than with the european parliament had been hoping for. but members can be assured that certain projects will continue without interruption. >> agreement on the eu budget, just in time for christmas. the deal was crucial. without it, funds for projects could have only been released on a month-to-month basis. that would have seriously hampered the eu's ability to function properly. >> thanks to this budget, we will be able to put into place policies in the service of european citizens. >> the lion share of the 126 billion euros will be devoted to infrastructure projects. over 40% will be spent on agricultural subsidies and rural development of the remaining portions of the budget will be spent on foreign relations,

security, and administration. parliament was on the whole happy with that break down, but it is fighting for a stronger stay in long-term financial planning. >> it was necessary to make the 2011 budget an issue, because financing for the coming years rest on it. let's be realistic, what we do not work out in 2011 will be considerably more difficult to deal with in 2012 and 2013. >> we're going into the locker rooms a little bit behind, but the game is not over, and i am confident that in the second half, we, the parliament, will win the game. >> and the parliamentary team has begun to prepare for a wrangling over the long-term budget planning up until 2014. >> it's good to steve with news from the other side of the atlantic. >> some good news on the economy, but not quite enough. at its last policy meeting of

the year, the u.s. federal reserve says the nation's economy is recovering but not fast enough to justify any change in its controversial attempts to spur further growth. u.s. central bank has left its key interest rate near 0, where it has been for the past two years. in the closely watched statement accompanying the decision, the fed said it anticipates a gradual return for a new art -- to a more normal economy, but progress toward its objectives has been disappointingly slow. it is therefore move ahead with more quantitative easing and will pump another $600 billion into the u.s. economy through the purchase of long-term treasurys. germany's institute has raised its forecast for gdp growth in germany. that is historically low interest rates which drive-in assessments and falling unemployment continue to support domestic demand. germany's of its biggest postwar recession in two dozen 9, but it emerged faster than expected from the slump and has now left

most of the eurozone company's trailing in its wake. consumers in europe's biggest economy are now more confident about the future, and they're spending accordingly. >> german retailers are already feeling the shopping mood. revenues are growing slowly but steadily. the institute predicts the trend will continue, with a german consumer spending even more in the months ahead. according to the forecast, most german growth will be related to german consumer spending. this year, the institute predicts 3.7% growth. must attributable to booming exports. growth will slow in to death and 11, but they have revised the previous forecast upwards from 2% to 2.4%. the reason, strong domestic demand. -- growth will be slow in 2011. the positive mood has impacted the financial sector. a survey shows the economic el look of finance professionals

grew again in november. >> on to tuesday's market action despite positive german data, german shares finished flat. should be noted that shares in frankfurt are currently hovering near two-year highs. our correspondent sent us this summary of the trading action in frankfurt. >> the upswing in germany seems to remain stable. the outlook for for next year a very good, but neither investor confidence nor the outlook for next year has been able to raise share prices. the dax has been headlining. there might be the mood to take some profits out from the market. but some shares still feel the upswing and benefit from the good mood in the german economy, like this company that raised its forecast for next year, especially in the travel business.

this started to rally for two shares. >> we can stay in frankfurt for a closer look at tuesday's numbers. the dax finishing basically flat but a couple points to the downside. the euro stoxx 50 of leading eurozone blue chips with modest gains. crossed the atlantic on wall street, the dow jones enjoying a nice rally. in response to stronger than expected retail sales figures. and now that the fed has announced it will be holding its interest rates steady, still trading higher by more than 0.5%. on currency markets, the year of trading in a valley of $1.3382. europe's largest budget airline, right in there, is planning massive cuts to services in germany in the coming year. the company says the decision is related to a new air-traffic levees in germany. capacity will be restricted at many airports throughout the country, including berlin where

ryanair forces flights to and from the german capital will be cut by more than 50%. the company announced it would reduce flights servicing this airport by a third. germany is introducing an aid your levy for a short distance flight from the start of next year. the price of gasoline in germany has reached a new high. customers at gas stations are paying close to nearly 4% more since the beginning of the year. some said the high price of fuel is related to an improving global economy, where demand for oil is rising. another factor is the recent weakening of the euro against the u.s. dollar, making oil, which is priced in u.s. dollars, more expensive for eurozone customers. that is your business update. back to make news. >> thank you. germany's business and political elites are

dissatisfied with angela merkel. that laid the blame with our coalition partners, the free democrats. according to a survey, of the 541 german leaders in business politics and administration survey, 72% said they are unsatisfied with the coalition government. >> the figures still show widespread disappointment in angela merkel's government, despite the economy's strong recovery. many of those surveyed are unimpressed with wester wewe lle. they think he is overstretched in his dual role. but effectiveness is growing, albeit slowly. >> the initial difficult the coalition experience are still being felt. the majority of top managers feel these difficulties have not been totally overcome. >> overall, the business leaders

have a positive economic outlook, but they are less optimistic about the future of the european single currency, the euro. 45% say they have no concerns about the euro's stability, but a majority, 54%, fear for the stability of the currency. their biggest worry is the debt burdens of some eurozone members. >> the managers from the economic sector, in particular, have the view that a lot more pressure needs to be exerted on a highly indebted countries, to bring the problem under control. >> the business in the trust angela merkel to apply the pressure. a large majority of the managers view her as a strong leader, despite the weakness is they see in her government. >> there has been a global outpouring of tributes for the veteran u.s. diplomat richard holbrooke, who died late on monday of a heart ailment. the u.s. prison called him a giant of american foreign policy. the german -- the u.s. president

said he was a giant of american foreign policy. he shot to global prominence in the mid-1990s as a negotiator at the day in accordance. for the past two years, richard holbrooke served as u.s. special envoy to afghanistan and pakistan. visitors to the south korean and crannies -- aquarium were enchanted by an early christmas present. that was a visit by a swimming and dancing santa claus. that jolly elf performed underwater ballet with as many as 12,000 extras -- sardines. would just 10 days to go before christmas, santa claus naturally brought along some edible presence for the fish, and schoolchildren were also fascinated by the performance. >> no pun intended, school

children -- a deal like that? >> i get it. >> stay tuned for "in depth," coming up next. ♪ >> you invest time, ideas, and energy. you always give your very best, and you are mobile. just like us. dw-tv, on your iphone. >> what is so powerful that it can make you overcome your greatest fear? turn your brother into an enemy and leave wounds long after the fighting is over? >> what is so potent a pass as effortlessly from mother to child, from generation to generation? >> makes you confuse right and

wrong. >> makes a bad idea seem like good ones. >> it is hunger. >> help us fight hunger. >> the world food program. >> silvio berlusconi has managed to pull it off again. allies have turned on him, bribery and corruption probes have dogged him, sex scandals of dominated the headlines, and his opponents have written him off time and time again. yet, as a politician, he is the classic comeback artist. on tuesday, he managed to survive a double emmy. a vote of no-confidence in both houses of the italian parliament. his problems began in the summer. his one-time political partner deserted berlusconi, leaving him to govern without a majority of his own. it remained open to the very last minute whether he would survive the vote of confidence. opposition politicians claimed he simply bought votes with promises of money and influence. even though he may only have

scraped through by a narrow majority, the end result is that berlusconi and his government can stay in office, at least for the time being. >> silvio berlusconi was in a tight corner, but once again, he has managed to hang on to the prime minister's job. delegates listened to his appeal. >> given the difficult situation italy is in, along with all other european countries, the only possible route is that of renewing confidence in the current government. it renew it because the government has worked well, and to renew it from a sense of responsibility for the nation. >> at the age of 74, berlusconi is the comeback kid of italian politics. he loves the limelight, and for the last 16 years, he has been performing on the country's political stage. he first became prime minister

in 1994, just six months after entering politics. his party at the time campaign for conservative values and free-market economic politics. berlusconi portrayed himself as standing for traditional family values and power. the billionaire businessman gradually extended his empire over the years, buying up ac milan football club, construction companies, newspapers, magazines, and nationwide tv channels. berlusconi's media -- as are convinced that i am the best prime minister if lilly has ever had. -- italy has ever had. >> but abroad, berlusconi is not view quite so positively. a u.s. diplomatic communique recently released by the whistleblowing website wikileaks

described him as vain and ineffective. berlusconi's sex scandals and legal cases often create bigger headlines and his politics. the prime minister has faced litigation for alleged corruption and tax evasion several times. but while still in office, is protected by an immunity law that he himself initiated. the prime minister's popularity ratings have plummeted. italy's problems appear to be left untouched. like the rubbish on the streets of naples. berlusconi's many promises to solve the trash problem have all come to nothing. hundreds of thousands take to the streets annually for in no berlusconi day. the italian leader has faced difficulties in government since falling out with his former ally, but berlusconi remains undeterred. >> people keep saying berlusconi go home, but i do not know which home they mean. after all, i own 20. >> for now, berlusconi escaped

with his job and title in tact. now he can look to the future and breathe a sigh of relief. >> well, outside of italy, berlusconi's style of doing business has raised plenty of eyebrows. and the italians are divided about the political leadership. surely after he won the vote of confidence, riots broke out in rome. protests are a common occurrence berlusconi has met lots of promises to the italian people over the years. his second term lasted five years, the longest time of political stability in italy since world war ii. he had pledged to revolutionize the italian economy, but it barely grew during this time of his third stint as promised started off with efforts to rescue the national airline of the country and solve the nabal's rubbish collection crisis, but it soon crumbled into scandals and probes. in our next report, we talked to some ordinary italians to find out how they feel about the

state of politics in their country. >> this family follows political developments from their living room. from here, rome seems a long way off, and many italians, they say they're tired of politics. there are especially skeptical of their prime minister. >> berlusconi relies on his charisma. he can tell people anything, and he always manages to appeal to the taste and the dreams of average italians. like his jokes about women, he likes to cast himself as the rich tycoon desired by all women. >> then there is a talent to do not bother to find anything else. the only watch tv. that is why berlusconi's tv monopoly is so important. what you see on tv becomes the truth. >> one glance at the lunchtime news is enough.

the state broadcaster focuses on one man only. >> they only show useless news, just berlusconi, commercials, green holidays, and christmas trees. >> in politically uncertain times, silvio berlusconi's media machine is on overdrive, both outside and inside a government building. berlusconi has been in politics for 16 years. one thing is known for is his resilience. >> that men will keep fighting to stay in power while there is any breath left in him. and his power is the men's in industry and financial markets. berlusconi's wealth greatly exceeds that of any of his rivals. >> his critics say silvio berlusconi's politics have done lasting damage to italy. >> since coming to power,

berlusconi only passes laws that benefit him personally. and that protect them from judges and state prosecutors. for a decade and a half, he has been systematically eroding our constitution, and the principle of everyone is equal under the law. >> some italians have given up on politics altogether. others continue to support berlusconi, describing his political style as unconventional, witty, and go- getting. some admire him almost like a rock star or as someone who always knows which direction he is going in, even under pressure, like during the no- confidence vote. they are prepared to turn a blind eye to his blunders, sex affairs, and corruption allegations. many in italy say all politicians are corrupt anyways.

>> we're better off with him. we cannot do without him. right now, we need a government and can keep us afloat. >> that the government expected this outcome of the vote. as long as berlusconi is alive, we should accept him. >> the best thing for italy right now is to continue this way, because the other side, the opposition, does not have a suitable candidate for prime minister like our current premier. >> yes, he was my choice, too. i voted for him, and a think it is fair to all people that voted for him that he should serve out his term. >> back in bellona, these two men not agree with that. they say italian politics is increasingly out of touch with ordinary people, despite the rate tuesday's vote wind. >> that has been our "in depth" of look at italian politics and

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. today we are going to the movies, social network and secretary, grab your popcorn and join us, bay area vista is next. . welcome to bay area vista, thank you for joining us. there are so many movies out right now so today we decided to go with a few that are generating a lot of buzz. one is behind the foun8ng of facebook, it launched at harvard university but now has

transformed social interaction for millions of us around the world. mark will not watch the movie which focuses on two lawsuits against him. now when the stars of the movie social network came to town, i talked with them about the controversy and the making of the film. here is what they had to say. >> i am janet edwards. he is talking about the social network, the buzz about the founding of facebook. >> two nights ago, they had a whole website in one night, he did it while he was drunk. >> you made facebook? >> they are grouppies. >> million dollars is not cool, what is cool is a billion dollars. from are a lot of expectations about the movie and a lot of controversy. it is really about two lawsuits

filed against mark and facebook, who did you get input in writing the script? >> let's talk about the lawsuits first. they were filed roughly the same time, the defendants plaintiffs they were all sworn in and came at the same time and what they ended up with were three different versions of the truth. when it came time to write the screen play, instead of writing the juiciest i wanted to say there were three versions, that there was a different quality so the movie does not take a position on who is telling the truth we let you argue about that in the parking lot. i know that mark and facebook would prefer we only tell the story from mark's point of view but we are telling it from mark's point of view as well as

the point of view of the people who are suing him. as far as who i got the information from, there was a lot of available research as well as speaking at length and directly to a number of the characters -- characters who were pro trade in the movie and most of them spoke to me on the condition of and i am inty so i -- and on, anonymous. >> but regarding some of the other view points, were any of those viewpoints central contributors to shaping this? >> sure, i can't tell you who i spoke to. >> okay. >> but everyone -- the fact that i have not spoken or met with mark, does not mean mark's

viewpoint was not central in shaping the script as well. >> right. >> listen, i don't think there is anybody who would want a movie made about the things they did when they were 19 years old, so i understand how mark feels completely. but on the other hand i -- in fact i know that we were fair, there is nothing in this movie that was sensationalized or hollywoodized. everything that occurs in this movie that we present to you first of all it is because a credible person said no this is the way it happened and we come at you and say this may not have happened this way it may have happened a ditch way. >> that is -- different way. >> that is true. >> i think because mark is

someone i didn't get to speak to, his part of it is something i am only able to know through certain records. mark's character is given more than anybody else the benefit of the doubt in the movie. >> there are definitely those moments. when i was at 19 i was at harvard. it is nice to see the social network was not there. given the expectation of the movie, the feedback you got, the screening with those students i thought wow that was so spot on and i didn't want it to end, ultimately what do you hope people will take away from this? >> it is gratifying when we hear that kind of reaction. people will take a lot of different things. there is not going to be a unanimous opinion but most people will like it. there is not going to be a unanimous opinion about who was

right and who was wrong. the movie does not fit easily into a box, the easiest is a courtroom drama where we start out certain that somebody is guilty or we change our minds five times throughout and i think that will happen here too. >> i am jessie and i talk with mark and the social network. >> i am afraid if you come out here you will get left behind. i need you out here. >> what did you just say? >> it is moving faster than any of us imagined. >> nice to meet you, welcome to the bay area. >> the challenge of port trying mark zuckerberg not approving of it in any way must have been enormous but how did you gain access to the character?

>> the script was written in conjunction with the book so when i read it i read it is a an actor looking at a character rather than somebody looking to play somebody real and having my own take on him. it is erin's script and my impression of his characterization of mark zuckerberg, it is interviews and so i kind of used that to help me play what is ultimately a character in the movie. >> because you are talking about facebook which has changed social interaction, did you feel were you in the process of something great in that same way? >> it is a nice comparison and having gone to harvard, the spirit is something great will come out of this school. i didn't go to harvard personally but when we were shooting there, you got into

the spirit of the work ethic of the kids there and in a way it infected the movie, it infected the spirit of the movie we all felt like we wanted to make it something special. >> we were talking to andrew garfield and he has been tapped to play peter parker in the upcoming firemen, nice to see you in the bay area. >> nice to see you. >> how is it working on a character that has been in the news in several ways. >> we are here including five in europe... >> i mean it was incredible to work on. i mean when i read the script, it was -- i read it in half an hour, i just soaked it up. it was just incredibly exciting and pro found and multi- perspective and it seemed

impossible to write. erin wrote this incredible tail. and the themes are just like -- you know there is all this humanity, there is all the storytelling and power and betrayal and money and greed and all these things, these universal themes and to be a part of the film, to be part of the story that is dealing with all those important human things, it is just great fun. >> you liked it? >> yes, because all the work has been done for you in this. >> there is a great scene with you and jessie who plays mark, the character plays your girlfriend where the dynamic is established where it becomes the betrayal. i know you have won many awards for your laser focus as an act

sore, what do you do for your skills? >> urgent rouse with what you just -- you are generous with what you just said, that is very nice. i can talk about that, it matched the way david finch approaches his work, we are all here, we are all being paid to be here onset making a movie which many people dream of but we are given the chance to, we work hard, we go to squeeze every ounce of juice we can out of thisd i just love that. >> now we are talking with army hammer and the social network as i was saying before, you got the harvard down pat in that way. what was this film like for you being in cambridge and also

dealing with such a controversy movie? -- controversial movie? >> well dealing with a controversial, it is amazing and it is one of those gifts that rarely get to be experienced in this town. by the time you have someone selling the script and then the producer gets involved and they have to do rewrites and cast it and they have to agree on the final edit and then it is released and by the time all those steps are accomplished, it is very rare that the issue you are trying to bring attention to is still relevant but with something like facebook, a constantly growing company, it is only getting morel haven't as time -- more relevant as time goes on, but also getting a chance to work in boston and came bridge and

charleston, it was the best. >> of course you play twins, how was that experience? [ movie excerpt ] >> he gave himself a 42 day head start but he knows but apparently you don't which is everything. >> i don't think you need to school me in the importance of getting there first. >> that was your father? >> if he thinks it is appropriate he will send us a letter. >> what do you think we need a lawyer? >> i can do that myself. there is two of me. >> making slight variations in character, was that a big challenge for you? >> we approached it like it was the biggest challenge because we knew it would be so easy to fall into the trap of saying

good twin bad twin or these guys are the bad guys or they are the big handsome athletic people picking on the poor unfortunate mark zuckerberg and the audience would think, these aristocratic blue bloods, i don't like that and concerning the fact that these guys are still alive, we wanted to spread lightly and we -- tread lightly and show them they deserve a fair chance. >> looking at this phenomenon your take in terms of people connecting through a social network but not connecting intimately one-on-one, what is your view? >> i will practice my answer by saying i have as much

sophistication in sociology -- in sociology as i do in brain surgery. i think it was to connect us and bring us closer together and it is doing the opposite. i think socializing on the internet is reality to television is to reality and we are trying to -- we are alone when we are socializing. we are not talking to each other, we are writing at each other and there is a big difference. we are writing on a wall and it is not that much different than passing a note back and forth in class. or writing graffiti. you are trying to reinvent yourself from behind closed doors by doing what i do coming up with lines that make you seem clever or strong or tough or angry or whatever you want to appear to be that the moment, but it is a sin seer

and de-- a sin seer -- sincere and dehumanizing. >> it is important to add that anybody's opinion about the internet if you are on facebook if you are not on facebook is irrelevant to whether you will enjoy this movie or not. you don't have to like or not like facebook or anything about the internet to enjoy this movie. it is not what the movie is about. >> the social network's website is on our screen and also at bay area visit.com and we remind you this is just one side of the story. now another movie generating interest tells the owner's story of secretary. he became the first triple

crown champion in 25 years. a woman who took over her father's horse business and was drawn into the world of championship breeding. >> we are talking to dianne lynn who stars in secretary. >> three races, three states in just five weeks. >> welcome back to the bay area, nice to see you again. >> thank you for having me. >> of course many people remembered the story but the story behind the race was a beautiful one, what did you resonate with? >> well i just felt like that jimi hendrix, let me stand next to your fire. he was the perfect age to be

ran. believing in pegasys, being 8 years old, he was my personal hero and because i loved horses so much, when i saw the name on the list of the pictures the studio might make that year, i thought could you imagine if i fell uphill and got that lucky, i didn't dare dream that big, so i am pinching myself, i am happy. >> so you always admired secretary, this is a dream come true in that way? >> i just spend some time with the real penny, the living legend she is and busted through that glass ceiling in a sport for men, she was raised in horse breeding and she knew what she was doing and she never stopped to the media's level by using the word housewife like it was a dirty word. she was like a dog that didn't bark, she would bite.

>> this is newsweek. >> this is all this talk about super horse, she broke the derby record, he ran the second fastest derby ever. >> well i would have to say i agree completely with mr. martin, his horse did run the second best. >> that press conference was a prime example, she dealt with a lot of family tension, her husband was not pleased with the decision to take over things after her father -- >> sure tremendous amount of sacrifice and maybe a little judgment too. i'm sure people thought she was being vain glorious and this highly ambitious venture. i can't imagine if she didn't win. fate met her halfway. >> in her viciousness. and the dynamic between her and

loren, very interesting. a lot of people were wondering would there have been more to that relationship. >> i understand. i am going to delicately walk sideways. just to work with john malkovich which is another scenario and i wish we could take the show on the road and go every day with him. we read the same screen play and i didn't see that much humor in it. he is so talented and free and focused antigen rouse and would -- and generous and would rework to maximum potential. he worked in the iron mask so they were comrades from a previous experience. it worked out very well for everyone. >> well everyone was of course

cheering. >> you can't want to see -- >> those are fine. we knew the races were going to be definitely something he can i will rating for the you had a -- he can i will rating for the you had a -- amazing for the audience but for all the emotions that went on and the miss understandings, my analogy was apollo 13 but i didn't want to miss a moment in how they were thinking and maneuvered the situation. i am glad it turned out like it did. >> what was your personal relationship with the horses? >> there are five horses because when they are running like that, it is exhausting. did i have my favorites, i confess. i am a horse lover but i don't know about thoroughbreds. i am used to a little less

velocity, less rocket feel under the saddle, i like quarter horses and westerns. sharing with 1800 pounds of right, the customer is always right, well the horse is always right. you need to make it their idea. you really have to watch your ps and qs, tremendous egos. >> last time we talked about a trip, how is the family? >> well honestly, josh and i are staring at an empty nest. our girls are applying to college and we are trying to be cool and not talk to much about it, -- too much about it. we are rehearsing and letting go. we are both working a lot so we

are planning our next year together, keeping it romantic. >> it was a crowd pleaser and everybody was cheering for it. it was nice to know that it was part of a childhood dream come true for you. >> talking to the directer of secretary, the crowds were cheering and when you are making a movie about a race, that is somewhat anticipated but you said you were surprised the first time you saw that reaction? >> well i was. the pivotal moment in my career was when i decided to make stories about what i wanted to see, not what the audience wanted because i believed in the audience. i consider myself an audience member first, i remember being a boy and walking out of the movie and thinking, my life is never going to be the same because of what i just saw and the only way i can get there is through the heart. the movies i make i try to aim

at that experience and to see people cheering and you know yelling at the screen and crying and laughing, you know that makes me believe well they are having the experience, they are not being spectators and they are being participants and that's a great thing. >> all of those to your claim brave heart, when you decided to take on this story and dealing with living people, i was thinking with her character she was not sitting on the sidelines quietly but giving you input about how things should be portrayed is that accurate? >> well she lived the story with such pass$'n and she was careful about how the story was told. the by ago after -- biographer was bill mac and he was also a technical advisor. they gave us the factual under

pinning and we couldn't deviate but she said of a she had seen the film and she's in her mid- 80s and she's car as matt particular, i loved the film and i didn't understand how much pain i had been in and i didn't understand how lonely i had been and i had to hide all of that from myself. it wasn't that you made it up, it was there, you discovered it. it is like a boxer in the ring taking the blows but will not allow himself to feel it because if he does he can't go on. that was magnificent courage, she brought that to her life and hopefully we captured that in the story. >> you didn't read the biography at the end or what happened to her marriage and

finding out about breeding this horse and becoming a champion. >> it is one thing when your enemies oppose you but when you know the people who are supposed to have your back and they are the ones saying you are a housewife, you are a woman, you can't do this, you are not smart enough, you are not brave enough and whatever it is, that moment comes in any character's life and they stand up and say, you know what i am not running a popularity contest and this one is mine and this is how we are going to do it. >> i feel i can make something work. >> that gives me goose bumps. that is a hero for any movie. >> how would you describe secretary to little kids who never heard of this horse before? >> secretary was a horse born small like we all are and who

loved what he was doing. he thought the first part of his life was all about playing and then he realized one day that he had a gift and the only way he could explore that gift was to exercise it and just run as fast and as far as he knew how to go and it made him the greatest race horse whoever lived. information about secretary is on our clean and our website. that is our trip to the movies this week so thank you for joining us in bay area vista and thank you for making it is great place it is. i am janet edwards hope to see you next