>> this is the journal. >> thank you for joining us. >> president hu jintao appeals from mutual respect in relations between washington and beijing. tunisia releases political prisoners detained under the rule of zine al-abdine ben ali. questions about german treatment of troops put the defense minister under pressure. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> chinese president hu jintao had a difficult time on the second day of his state visit to the u.s. his agenda was filled with meetings with critical u.s. lawmakers, who pressed him on

human rights. the house speaker welcome the closer economic cooperation, but voiced strong concerns about ongoing human rights violations in china. hu also spoke with harry reid in what was probably an awkward meeting. >> hu and harry reid smile for the cameras, but the talks were overshadowed by comments made recently about the chinese leader, labeling him a dictator. many u.s. lawmakers vowed to bring up human rights in their talks with the premier, talks that were held behind closed doors. a number of leading u.s. politicians had snubbed the chinese leader in the evening before by declining an invitation to the dollar dinner held in his honor by the first couple. -- the gala dinner held in his honor by the first couple. [applause] he received an enthusiastic

welcome when he spoke to members of the u.s.-china business council on thursday. billions of dollars of deals will be struck during the visit. he told his hosts at least some of what they wanted to hear. >> we will continue to intensify policies on reforms and openness in the areas of business, politics, and society. china will improve its social market economy and create a socialist system -- socialist economy based on the rule of law. >> a respected elder statesman introduced him -- former secretary of state henry kissinger. >> if our country's work together, most of the problems that are before rest will find a creative solution -- that are before us will find a creative solution. if they do not, then there is no possibility for one side or the

other achieving a success over the other. >> there is still much that divides the economies. they need each other to prosper. that is the message of this state visit. >> i spoke to our washington correspondent, and began by asking for more about what was talked about at the meeting. >> president who is on a very tight schedule, but congressional leaders managed to ask questions concerning human rights. they asked a lot about intellectual property protection, which is very important for american software companies. at least the house members were running out of time. but the senate members in the meeting after that managed to ask some questions about currency issues as well. all the hairy issues for president hu.

you can say this was a less enjoyable meeting and the state dinner on wednesday. >> he is now leaving washington. what would you say his reception has been like in the u.s.? >> president obama got really good grades from most analysts, how he handled everything. he did the tightrope walk between raising all the issues and not embarrassing his guest. this is especially true for the human rights issue. obama even mentioned it to bat, and -- tibet, and hu responded by saying they need to do more for human rights in china, which is a surprise. usually, you cannot expect big surprises. it is about appearances and symbols, which are important to the chinese. it is about doing big business. regarding these aspects, you could say the state visit was a success. but the underlying problems, the big differences with human rights or the currency issue, do

remain. >> thank you. tunisia's interim government has declared three days of mourning after the unrest that toppled the previous government and claimed at least 78 lives. ministers also agreed to grant recognition to all band of political groups and to create an amnesty for political prisoners. >> anxious family members wait to take their husbands and sons into their arms. at this checkpoint near the tunisian capital, newly released political prisoners are united with their families. this mother has not found her son yet. >> they can to the house and took him. they give him a five-year sentence. they tortured him until he was nearly dead. he has not come out. he served three years and five months. who is being released? >> the interim government still

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puma. earngs reportslso came in. the numbers and the optimistic outlook caused deman of shares amongst investors. the stock price of the french technology conglomerate rose significantly this thursday. >> you can see the d taking a bit of a dip. it fell and closed almost 1% lower 7024. stoxx 50 ended slightly up. on wall street, the dow instrial is lending some what to 11,819. the euro is trading for $1.34. the spanish government is working on a second round of cazati for its

regional savings banks. privatenvtorode some money. an injection of 30 billion euros is on the cards. >> si's savings banks have traditionally played a major role in the country's mortgage business. but debt defltave hit them hard since the financialris ok this year alone, outstanding mortgages worth a total of 80 billion euros could il the spanish construction boom lasted a decade, but the sector was financed with borrowedmoneys to private consumers building their own homes. the 2008 financial crisis brought the mortgage merry go round to ht. the government has already helped out with a capital injection of 11 billion year rose. madridni tm to fresh private and public capital is part of a raft of reforms aimed at restoring international coidcen e ctor. >> swiss police are still

holding a former banker for questioning about potential breaches of swiss banking laws. the have 24 hours to decide whether they have grounds to continue to hold him. he appeared on monday with julian assange. he handed over details of tax evaders. the swiss court convicted him of breach of secrecy laws for publishing data about his former employer. a 6000 but you're a fine was suspended for two years. -- a 60 euro fall and was suspended for two years. >> incidents inern's armed forces after a revolt in a naval vessel and an accidental killing in afghanistan. there are allegations that soie' letters to their families have been tampered with, a breach of germany's strict laws on social secrecy.

>> the defense minister rejected opposition claims of a cover-up, pointing out that one of the incidents has been under investigation for some time. it is the case of a young soldier who died in afghanistan before christmas. it appears a colleagues n nt off and the bullet hit him in the head. >> for months now, we have received inaccurate information from the ministry. that means the ministry does not have things under control. >> in such cases, the state prosecutors are responsible for the investigation. it is not for the minister to interne an investigation is underway. we will wait for the results. >> in a separate matter, the rm ting ship gorch fock had to return to port in argentina after training officers refused an order to climb a riing. it led to the death of a sailor

back in november. lawmakers are also demanding formation on allegations that messages sent home from troops in afghanistan were opened. they want to know how systematic this intrusion was. gutenberg says this question will be fully investigated. >> in sports, germany have avoided an early exit from the world handball championship by beating tunisia in their last game of the first stage. the 2007 champions defeated the two nations 36-26. germany will face a iceland, hungary, and norway in the next matches. those start on saturday. that was a close call, a little bit of egg and everybody's faces if they had not made it through the tournament. we will be back after a short break.

>> is fashion week in berlin. for the next few days, the german capital will be the international stage for fashion and lifestyle as the show gets under way. it is one of the world's biggest trade fairs for street and urban where. we start with a designer making her first appearance at the show. kate ellis is a british woman living in germany. >> this is the place where kate ellis gets her inspiration. she works as a designer from her munich apartment. her label is relatively young. she is working on her third collection. for her, it is the fabric that makes all the difference. she chooses the cloth for each

design personally. she creates her designs on a computer. her style is simple. that is the trademark of the british-born designer. >> everybody has a favorite teacher. that is what this should be, for everyone to wear your favorite piece that you take out of your doors everyday -- drawers every day. >> the look is vintage. rose bowl is a famous flea market in california. this woman is responsible for getting kate's designs into the shops. -- this man is responsible for getting cates designs into the shop. the designer does not have a shot of her own yet. the garments are manufactured in turkey. the two are making their final preparations for bread and butter. they hope an appearance at the show will give the label added

exposure. >> we have a feeling that word is spreading. we hope they will have presence throughout germany in one or two seasons. >> the sleeves are a little tight for current trends. kate wants to make the dress more loose fitting for the next collection. kate ellis troubles a lot, always on the lookout for fresh ideas. she finds inspiration in germany. she keeps an eye on the fashion scene and says she has noticed a trend toward more diversity. >> it has been appearing in the last few years. more designers, new designers. i think there is a larger acceptance. >> that means more companies like her. but kate ellis also wants to grow. that is why she is also planning a men's wear collection for next year. >> one of the most striking features of the berlin event is its use of unusual settings. the historic airport is where

the main event of bread and butter takes place. the prestigious hotel avalon provided a new take on ecological fashion. green showroom allows designers to showcase clothes that are innovative, but trendy, including a designer who has been using video cassettes to make hand bags and purses. many in exhibitors are from berlin and get their inspiration from this multi-cultural and vibrant metropolis. what are the latest fashion trends for the year born to be? we want to ask some of the people who should know. >> preparations for a photo shoot for an online fashion boutique. the owner spends a lot of her time at fashion exhibitions, transporting. she has identified two big innovations for the spring season. >> we have a military look going

away. that has been there for the past two years now. it is going toward the biker look. it has been reinterpreted, with shoulder pads and fine leather in accentuating its sheen to make it appear more feminine, along with extreme narrowing at the waist. the trend for spring-summer is a lot of colors and patterns. >> but many of last season's fashions will be back on the catwalks this year. large tote bags are still all the rage, as our great scars. as far as blacks are concerned, mid-calf is the thing. >> this is the new trend in trousers, chinos. these mid-calf pants, pedal pushers. they differ from last year's models in that they are looser at the top, and have diagonal

cut pockets. and the legs are a little tighter. >> big fashion chains are going with a retro 80's look in spring. at mango, shoulder pads are back. bold colors are seeing a revival. why cut loose garments are back in after the muted palette of the last couple of years. >> we are going for a lighter, looser look with very fine fabrics, to reflect the freedom -- the feeling of freedom. >> bold colors along with long dresses and retro are also in a&m -- a&m -- h &m's new collection. anything goes in the upcoming season. >> now you know. many of the world's leading

designers are german. the country is said to have the biggest number of fashion schools in the world. does that mean ordinary germans are fashion conscious? if so, what do they like to wear? we went to find out. >> winter may not be the best time of year for high fashion, but berliners know how to brighten up the gloom with sturdy footwear and trendy accessories. the berlin look has caught on with the international fashion world. it does not pass tourists by either. >> it is definitely wackier them in austria. >> it is very modern and fashionable. the girls always look good in the streets. >> it is very trendy. they dress very well. >> it is the verse, not always

the same. everyone tries to get their own style together. >> the cliche that german fashion tags are an adventuress is passe -- are unadventurous is passe. >> i come from the south of france, where the fashion is very bling-bling. in germany, the focus is on high-quality fabrics and materials. >> german fashion designers are setting global trends, and the industry has become a global player the german fashion association says it is the world's second-largest exporter of fashion after italy. the main thing for german fashion enthusiasts is individuality. >> i hate it when everyone looks the same. i find something i like, and a

year later everyone is wearing it, like this for hat. >> it is an expression of my life situation, my emotions. >> copying other people is not my thing. >> when it comes to fashion, germans are confident and independent. more than 80% say it is more important for them to like their own clothes than for others to like them. that is the kind of confidence the german fashion industry has often lacked. many established labels hide their origins behind non-german band names. here in germany, fashion remains largely the domain of women's magazines. the next up for germany on its way to becoming a style mecca is to take fashion seriously, as a genuine expression of culture. >> beauty and the best, fashion and germany. that was the subject of our in-

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♪ - hi, this is bob scully, and welcome to another edition of the world show, our hidden angels series, as in hidden angel foundation, the foundation we've told you about that we're working with at the moment on a special documentary devoted to special needs children and multi-sensory environments. well, multi-sensory environments

didn't just drop out of the sky; they were thought through by two very brilliant gentlemen you're about to meet--two dutchmen, ad verheul and jan hulsegge-- who, 35 years ago, were working in holland in the hartenberg center. and they were working almost as anyone else did at that time with special needs children--in total ignorance of their special needs. special needs children at that time were so baffling to most medical professionals, they were left to rot away in nooks and crannies of hospitals. nobody knew what to do, and people thought that was what you should do--nothing. but they realized that personalities lay dormant inside those children. human beings were there that could come out and would come out if only you gave them the chance, and the chance came through sensory stimulation--gentle and intelligent sensory stimulation--which led to the snoezelen revolution, those special rooms that the hidden angel foundation tries to provide around the world. and from there, a better understanding came about, and today nobody would dare go

back to the old ways, the very cruel--even though they were unwittingly cruel, they were certainly very difficult--the old ways of treating special needs children. we owe this to these two men who have alleviated the lives parents. so, here in their own words explaining how they did it are ad verheul and jan hulsegge. ad verheul and jan hulsegge, you are both credited with a revolution, really, in the field of child psychology, and we're going to talk about that, what you developed--snoezelen, and so on. you've become so famous that people say ad and jan, ad and jan. they don't even say your family names anymore. child psychologists are very impressed and very grateful for what you've done. but let's go back 20, 30 years. autistic children, children with difficulties-- before you gentlemen came along, how were they treated? - normally, certainly, severe profoundly handicapped people, they're lying the whole day in bed and doing nothing. the

healthcare was fixed on medical treatment--not to say anything negative about nursery staff; they do their best, but nothing happened during the day, and i think that was the first impulse to find a new development--a new possibility to enrich the lives of severe profoundly handicapped people. - and that had been the way for centuries, maybe. this was always done. - certainly--since world war ii some things were changed in holland--but certainly people with disabilities were put away somewhere in the forest. they were not members of society, and certainly at the time that we started our job at hartenberg center, we were confronted with these very passive lives of people with disabilities, and that was the first idea... it was the positive element that gave us the idea to change something, but we were totally

unknowledgeable about their world, because most of them can't speak or don't tell us about their own experiences-- are they happy, or not happy... - and you made the same observation--that the children were not well treated? and what you did is you unlocked their personality. these kids

have very developed personalities. - [ad]: mm-hmm. - as much as we do. but it was locked--they were prisoners. - i think it was not easy, because there was a little battle between our ideas about new possibilities for severe profoundly handicapped people and the main nursing staff, because they were so fixed on medical care, and here come two guys making silly objects and putting them above the beds, like colourful mobiles, and i still remember a remark made by a head nurse, who said, "we should clean up these silly things". she didn't say silly, but she meant, really, silly, with a very dirty look toward this element, because it didn't belong in this normal hospital atmosphere. - [jan]: yes, of course.

- and the kids wasted away. - [ad]: certainly. they never came outside. they never experienced how lovely it can be to sit in the sunlight, or how lovely it can be to feel the rain on your skin, or to feel the cold in wintertime. if you've never experienced the cold, you can't enter a building or a room and feel that it's warm and cozy-- when you've never had any differences in experience. - and there was this idea, i think, we sometimes apply wrongly to elderly people too: we must protect them from themselves--you know, no exercise, no sunlight, stay inside, because you'll hurt yourself. - safety was the first point. safety's for safety's sake.

- i think when we talk about guidance of the nursery staff, our guidance should be positive, but in principle we are very subjective in everything that we offer another human being. but when we can talk, when we can discuss, we have the possibilities to see the differences in mind, the difference in how you feel. but when you talk, when you cooperate with severe profoundly handicapped people, they can't refuse anything, and everything that you offer them is subjective. that means they do what you want them to do, as when you make the decision that "it's better for you to stay in bed the whole day, because today it's too cold, tomorrow it's too hot", and so on. - and it's also for the convenience of the system. the system likes that. less work.

- and that's very safe because we can control it. but when they do it in the opposite way-- when you say, "i will use the possibilities of this other human being who can't tell me if he feels happy or not happy", then i am very sensitive, because i lost my control. and that's the main problem in the whole healthcare system. we must accept this human being as a normal human being, even though he does not have the same possibilities as we have. - and i was struck--i mean, i knew this in theory, but i observed children--we're going

to talk in a few minutes about snoezelen and about these multi- sensory environments that you've created--but i observed cerebral palsy patients at a concert, and they were singing along--some of them were very good singers, some of them were very good dancers. it's exactly what you point out. in the old days, that would not have been allowed. - no, we had not discovered their possibilities, but that says more about us--how we took care of them before. and now we accept that they do things in another way, with their own time schedule, and maybe in a way that we don't recognize immediately. in a certain way, you can say they stay in another world, and it's up to us to discover this other world. - and there is. i was looking at some of the teachers. the teachers know this. the teachers are not shy about bringing them out, teasing them and making them laugh. - yeah, in a certain way, to transform yourself into their world.

- which you really powerfully changed. i want to get to the revolution. you, in a way, took on the system. you decided--i want to know how that happened-- you decided to introduce into the life of these children sensory stimulation--colour, sound, movement, shapes--but you must have started with little steps. how did it start?

and the first time you went, let's say to a medical department, and said, "we want to try this", did they kick you out? - no, not directly, but we were responsible for promoting day activities, also for the groups of severe profoundly handicapped people. during the time that we started our job in the hartenberg center, everything was fixed on the more high level people with disabilities--they'd do work in the sheltered workshop, but the severe profoundly handicapped people stayed the whole day in bed doing nothing, and that was for us the first

challenge to develop new ideas, and it started very simply. what happened in such an environment? it was a very passive environment like a hospital. we started to try to change the environment. we created in a very simply way mobiles with textiles and little elements, and put them above the beds. and what we saw for the first time was a little subtle reaction of this man or woman who lies in the bed. and, especially, at that time, the parents of this child, for the first time, saw their own son or daughter give a reaction when something was happening in the environment. until that moment, the parents had accepted their daughter or son as a passive human being. they were happy that the nursing staff was caring for him, but nothing further happened. and then, through this idea, for the first time, parents saw development--very small,

but there was a small development.

- they were reacting, the kids. yeah, a whole series of cassettes. yeah. - in a certain way, to stimulate the members of the staff to use

other music is the same thing as what i told you already about our subjectivity--we like our music, but nobody ever asked the severe profoundly handicapped child, "do you like this music too?" well, this is my music-- why should you like the same? and that was a very important point--to stimulate the members of the staff to think about, "how big is my influence?" and this influence is enormous, and not always in a positive way. - [bob]: no, that's right. and you moved eventually to the entire--what they call an mse-- the snoezelen rooms, which are really a rich diet of shapes, sounds, and light. and i've seen kids come in, and they can change the whole colour of the room--green, blue, yellow--and some of them love to do that. but how did you come to something as complex as that? did that come right away, the idea? - no, no. already a few years later, we started doing this

with simple things in the daycare center or in the living unit. and the next step was to ask the staff, "is it possible to take this guy outside?" but this was the first time, and it was one bridge too far, because they were so anxious that he'd catch a cold, or the sun was too hot--always this thinking about protecting another human being. but maybe it's wonderful to be outside when the sun is hot, to be outside when it's freezing weather... but that was a very big--i'd say, battle... - [jan]: yeah. - ...between us and the general members of the staff who had grown up taking care--

- you gave them the ukulele. - yes. - because you wanted to see the reaction. - and i think a child can feel vibration. - [jan]: yes. - we think about hearing music, but you can also feel it, and they are very sensitive to it. - and it seems to me that because you have this open system and you make them do things, the chance of abuse is less, because when they were locked up in the dark with nobody knowing really what's happening, then i suppose you had cases of abuse, and so on. that's much harder in an open environment.

- i think afterwards--and i think you have the same opinion--without the help of the parents, we never would have succeeded. - ah, yes. they became your allies. - at that time, the parents were a big companion in our "battle" against what happens every day. because these parents saw so much reaction in a very subtle way of their own children, and they're parents, they would go to the management board and say, "this is important. stimulate development for this activity". - and i've heard that in the old days, against even the notion of stimulating, they would say, "oh, no, no. if you stimulate

them, they'll hurt themselves, or they'll be unhappy". - yeah, and many other things, because everything had to do with your own body, and there were people anxious about stimulating sexuality. at that time, in the mid-'70s, there were members of staff that said, "well, they have no sexuality". really, that was the mid-'70s in holland. today, we accept them as normal human beings, having everything that belongs to the human being, including-- - what do you call? - a waterbed?

oh, an air square. - air square. - oh, okay. some kind of big balloon. yeah. mm-hmm. enjoying it. - and it's never happened before. but they use all the materials in a totally different way. you have many examples of this. - in principle, all the materials we used were already there, but we accepted that they could be used in another way. - because sometimes they're very simple, eh? just the idea that you've changed the colour of the room, it's pretty simple. it's not high technology, and yet it makes all the difference in the world. the child goes like that, and the room is green, blue, red, and they're happy. - we built small mattresses to take the people out of the beds, put them in their normal clothes, and it was one bridge

too far to go outside, but that was a big step already that they don't stay the whole day in bed, but lie on a special mattress so they can play with some tactile elements, and everything was very simple. we made all the stuff ourselves. - and you mentioned the parents, and i know of one case, since we've been working on this-- we're doing a film on mse-- on multi-sensory environments. once school thought they could take it away--they have a room like that. and all the kids come in at different times, and they all love it, but some administrator thought, "oh, i need this for a classroom, so forget this. not important". and the parents started a campaign, calling the school, saying, "no, no. don't touch that". - [ad]: yeah. i think that that belongs to our society, because we are so fixed on results, to learn something, to educate. but when you see a severe profoundly handicapped child lying on a waterbed, it's a very passive impression, and then the first question is what you should learn from lying down

on a waterbed, but i think relaxation, certainly for this group is very important. - and they learn about balance-- - balance, and that you stay on the same level with this person with a disability--that you accept, "i can lie down also, and it doesn't matter-- i will relax too". - and what is the... like, if you take the extremes: a child who gets nothing like that, and a child who gets the maximum amount of development, it's not the same child. it's really night and day. - no, the results are different. you can use neusilin or multi- sensory stimulation for a child who is very passive, and you could use this also for a child or human being who is aggressive and has very hyperactive behaviour. the first one was passive and becomes active, and the guy who was aggressive and hyperactive can become quiet. you can

use the same elements for another purpose. - and can it happen--can it start at 20 years of age? because we're talking about children a lot, but it's not only children. - no, no. in principle, it doesn't depend on age. we have worked with children, babies, but also adults, and at this moment they use this for people with dementia--

- and alzheimer's. i've heard that. - alzheimer's, yes. - in other words, the person with alzheimer's... we're making the same mistake. we tend to leave them in the corner, and we say it's a waste of time to stimulate them, but that's not true. - no, because it's very important that this man or woman can recognize his environment, so you can use very little, subtle elements to give him a feeling of safety. that he recognize something, and-- - and then you retard--you slow down--the disease. you don't eliminate it-- - we did some scientific research, in which you see that you stabilize the negative process, but you never can stop it. it's not like medicine. you can't say e-mycin is a medicine for people with dementia. i think you give them a happier world, and also for the members of staff, that's also one

of the results of the scientific research. most members of staff-- - so that's the control group. yes. you have brought a lot of happiness to a lot of people, so thank you both-- true. so, thank you for doing

that, and thank you for talking about it. - okay, thank you very much. - thank you very much. - ad verheul and jan hulsegge were our guests this week in the hidden angels series of the world show. that's our program for this week. i'm bob scully. thank you. closed captioning by sette inc.