>> our message to our colleagues in the house is we are ready to negotiate. >> this week on "inside washington" -- immigration reforms in jeopardy. >> if we allow the legal immigration, illegal immigration becomes pointless. >> is a filibuster a good idea? >> if we do not pull back here, our friend will be remembered as the worst majority leader. >> people get second chances, i know i have work to do.

>> in egypt, when is a military coup not a military coup? >> we have not made a determination on and what to led the event in egypt that to the change in government. afghanistan, the american military, 64,000 square foot, $34 million white elephant. >> although we are only in the second week of july, members of congress are looking for to the month-long summer recess in august. we do not know whether the house of representatives will act on immigration reform before the break. the senate last month passed a

bill that would increase border security and provide a path to citizenship for millions in the country illegally. former president george bush spoke about the issue this week as he welcomed new citizens at a naturalization ceremony in dallas. thehe laws governing immigration system are not working. the system is broken. we are now in an important reforming those laws. .nd that is good i do not intend to get involved in the politics or the specifics of policy, but i do hope there is a positive resolution to the debates. >> house speaker john boehner says the house will take a methodical, step-by-step approach to this and not be held to any deadlines. so this could be pushed to the fall or even maybe next year, or it may not even have been in our

lifetime. newton's third law, to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. it may not applied to politics. if this fails, there will be consequences. >> i do not know why anyone wants to pass immigration legislation that would increase in gdp of the country, cut the budget deficit, in fact, raise the wages of all americans and restore some sort of energy to the country. we are an aging population. george w. bush, to his credit, has been enormously circumspect as a former president. republican they want to look at this. votet 40% of the hispanic when he won reelection in 2004. that is something republicans can only dream about. >> charles? >> interesting, this newfound

respect for george bush, now that he agrees with my on immigration. that was something that was rather lacking for the last 13 years, but that is just an aside. >> are you happy to see him? >> i liked him before you were ready to rehabilitate him. >> [laughter] >> where was i? >> your aside. >> i will mention one>> are youm the bill. the cbo estimates of the bill, if passed, in 10 years, will have 8 million new illegal immigrants. what problem have assault? >> the conservative estimates is nothing youe can do to forecast accurately. a lot depends on the economy on the border.

right now, we are doing 87% enforcement. that is a pretty good number. there is no way to get 100%, probably no way to get 95%, but you could probably do better than 87%. i have a great deal of respect for george bush's a position on immigration, when he was president, i recall saying that, and i will not be accused of pitching pole by charles. the cbo estimates of the>> in te significant numbers of republican that do not want a bill at all. they are dead set against it. you have some who want some reform, talking about a path to legalization, rather than citizenship. that is a philosophical argument they are having. then there are some republicans,

like lindsey graham, who are trying to get things done. the fact that the house republicans can work their will mean that it will be a messy couple of months ahead of us. >> aldi 20% of the house republican seats -- only 20% of the house republican seats have a small percentage of hispanics in it. payoffe is no politically. >> there is no payoff politically. you can racially gerrymander, but not forever. >> as an aside, i do not think george bush is gifted with infallibility. i think he was absolutely wrong about the war in iraq, which my colleague on the right -- on the left, depending on your perspective -- supported so enthusiastically. i do think he understands, as the governor of texas and president of the united states,

i always admired and respected his position on this. republicans in the house think locked ina majority the future because of the redistricting. the democrats thought the same thing between 1968 and 1990, and house, theye white lost 82 electoral votes in that election. but they kept the house of representatives. if they are going to be a national party house,, which chs be --them to >> you will notice that aside from all of these self-referrals from my colleagues about george bush, nobody answered the substantive question, which is what would you have achieved if we have 5 million to 8 million immigrants?

i thought the point of this was to bring 11 million people out of the shadows. it took a quarter-century to accumulate that. now we will have a repetition of that in the decade. the real problem with the bill is the enforcement of the border is not serious. bean index of that is how much democrats will fight, kick, and scream over the details -- >> is that chump change? >> you are throwing money at a problem without saying that you are going to judge this by the results, the output, not the input. let me give you one example. the israelis build a fence because they're getting 2000 illegal african immigrants every month. the fence is now completed. they have gone from 2000 to two of month. that is a 1000 times reduction.

why is their reluctance to agree to build a fence across the length of the border -- >> they are building a defense. >> the border is 1,960 miles. right now we have 350 miles. we are going to get another 300, which will be a third. about the to talk affordle care ac the president has take some executive acti relative to that. >> he took the action of putting off for another year the implementation of the employee mandate. it is because the rollout has been difficult. if you look at the fundamentalists starting with medicare, why did it get a good start at this health-care is not getting? you had a democratic congress. you did not have the partisan action that has taken place in washington where a major program

cannot get a good rollout because you have so many partisans there to sabotage. >> you guys are amazing. >> let me continue. this is a complicated program they are trying to get under way. they are not saying there will be no employee mandate. it will take a while to put this in place. >> 95% of employers covered by the employer mandate are already covered. but they objected to was the infusion of paperwork and they are putting it off for them. the number of employees who will not be covered and to our getting a reprieve is relatively small, about 5%. that thist is true is a complicated bill, but we cannot make it better because any time they open up anything to make it better, people opposed to it tried to kill it. says, let'sonnell

sit down and talk about things. why don't they do that? >> you want to sit down and talk about things with mitch mcconnell? ok. >> the president does not want to have a drink with him. >> no, he does not. politically, this is complicating for democrats in 2014. say that nowsome we can say it will all be taken care of in 2015, not a problem. i think it is. nina's both colby and points are valid. there has been resistance to the rollout of the medare part b, pharmaceutical coverage, but nothing that approaches this. this is an enormous undertaking and it is a job that is daunting to a lot of people. >> you guys are utterly amazing.

the democrats passed a law, a very complicated health care law, pelosi tells us that we will learn what is in it after we pass it, they give themselves 3.5 years to get in place the employer mandate. they then declare on the eve of a fourth of july holiday when eryone is at the beach, on a blog post of the assistant secretary of the treasury, that they are going to ignore the lot and usia -- you guys are telling me because it was republican resistance? you are going to get a collective hernia for carrying all the water from this administration. this ia failure of the democrats in conception and in the carrying out of their own ideas. would you are witnessing is a continuation of the opposition to health care reform that started bk with harry truman.

they called it socialized medicine. hey have predicted it up -- prettied it up. it is the same forces of reaction that we hav seen for a decade. >> it had nothing to do with the employer mandate, which was ostensibly the chief of this discussion. >> which is a more serious event, carrying water, or drinking goulet? aid?ol >> another part that you've neglected to mention, when you join up to the subsidies in health care exchanges, you know lager have to show that you are eligible. point taken. mitch mcconnell on the nuclear option. >> it makes me sad. am my members are angry, i

more sad. it is a shame we have come to this. it is time we sat down to try to other, because many members of the other side are hearing a different version from the facts that are largely unrelated to reality. >> let me tell you what he is so sad about. it is harry reid talking about a military option. this is a procedural. in the senate, harry reid is talking about supporting a rule .hange you have clear mccaskill saying -- claire mccaskill saying is grid lock. lamar alexander said at first, that would be the end of the senate. then he thought about it and said, this might work for us if we get a majority. charles? >> bring it on. absolutely blow the place up. when republicans take over, which will happen eventually,

they will say, this is how you wanted it. this is a school of hypocrisy. there is note issue on which there is more hypocrisy. we have the same debate 10 years ago when the jerseys were changed. the republicans had the majority, the democrats in the minority. they have blocked the judicial nomination of the bush administration, one after another, the republicans threaten to change the rules. if you go back to the debates, joe biden said that this was the tyranny of the majority. all of the argument that you now hear from the other side. we are going to have this argument again and again and they will simply change their tune, depending who is there. do it. >> charles is right that the jerseys have changed, but there are some differences. the fight over the nuclear

option was about judges. it was about six or seven judges, as opposed to now, they're backed up in the dozens. and this does not apply to judges. this only applies to executive nominees. people can populate an administration so by the time you get them confirmed they are not leaving office. >> do not worry about the law of unintended consequences with this thing? >> it reminds me of jack kent cooke, who began a press conference saying, if i should die -- and then a sports writer said, if i should die? if the republicans will be in the majority? nina put her finger on the key point here. the republicans have tried to basically neuter and administration by denying people in positions of executive

authority, the national labor relations board, national election commission -- >> we had this debate last time when the nuclear option was on the table. senators came and worked out a deal with harry reid and john mccain. under certain conditions could you require this kind of filibuster, you set the criteria for the judge did that you want at the appellate level, and then you go. they are blocking the president's appointment powers. that is why you have to think about the nuclear option. >> all of this began when bush nominated a promising, rising young hispanic attorney named .iguel estrada obviously on the way to becoming a supreme court justice. the democrats refuse to act on

this for over two years, at which point, he withdrew. i agree with you. for presidential nominees, if should be 50 votes. >> for the record, i am catholic. the reality is, what you have done here is you have the government on its knees. republican senators have hidden behind a filibuster. it is time for them to show some spine and vote up or down on nominees and not hide behind the smokescreen of the filibuster. >> we are not a religious program but we are a compassionate program, so therefore, we feel obliged to consider whether the voters of new york city would be willing to forgive a couple of politicians who, in the past, have had trouble keeping their pants on. one of them would be anthony weiner, running for mayor, and the other is eliot spitzer, who

wants to be comptroller. should we give them a shot, if we are voters in the big apple? >> eliot spitzer came to our town and took his pants off in the hotel. >> a lot of people did that -- do that in washington. >> he did that with a woman that was not mrs. spencer. we never got a chance to prosecute him for that. we knew he engaged in an act with a prostitute, unlawful and the district of columbia, and he skipped town. should the voters of new york to something about that? i think so. >> why don't you extradite him? >> [laughter] i do not understand why anybody would vote for him. they can run. >> he is in a three-way tie right now. >> he is the rio whitey bolger,

in his pants. the reality is this, eliot spitzer is not anthony weiner. anthony weiner was on every cable show. eliot spitzer was the sheriff of wall street. were tradingt after hours, he got them 11 convictions, $4 billion in fines. he is the one person that did bring some law and order to wall street and stopped the greed. wall other words, hating street trumps everything. >> performance and prosecution of the law. >> performance in the washington hotel? does that count? >> i do not know his performance. by any othera coup

name. thousands of protesters marched this weekend to demand a return of president morsi, this is one week after the army coup to depose him. the white house refuses to call this a coup. why? >> that video that you showed up carney at the white house is painful to watch because it automatically triggers a cutoff of aid and they do not know what they're what to do about this. they do not want to cut out aid, but if there is a coup, you have to. >> they have to figure it out soon, and they have to figure out what to do with syria. >> they have figured it out, but now apparently, the house and senate, intelligence and foreign relations committees, which had been begging them to do this, will not let them do this because either it is too much or not enough. >> that is the problem. there are some that do not want

them to go into syria. the popular opinion in the country is against intervention in syria, although there are people who talk about these believe we should go in. i am not sure if there is support for this. obama has made it burst through his vacillation. if he has to take a position and stuck with it, -- he was against it, did not want to go into it, now assistance with weapons. do.dy knows quite what to >> a washington post editorial from friday. syria and egypt. >> the country with respect obama if he took a position and explained it. this is a serious thing. do you want to be involved in the war in syria or not? there are strong arguments on either side. the strongest is it could be a late hour in which it would have

a bad effect. away.simply slinks he does not speak about afghanistan for a couple of years. then you wonder, do we have a policy or not? are syria, it seems that we not going to send weapons, so of course the congress is conflicted. the president needs to explain the policy and he has not even tried to do that. situation, ittian absolutely eludes me. you have democratic election, the president did not have death squads, he was an apt. ineptitude, is that would lead a coups, we could have won day. we did find out who was involved and we already have $12 billion to the new fellows from saudi arabia, the emirates, and from kuwait, who are the

greatest sponsor of democracy, and architects of the bill of rights. new $35 million headquarters in afghanistan. time to shut it down? >> i have never seen a building better constructed than this, and we are going to destroy it. $34e is talking about a million, 64,000 square foot military headquarters in afghanistan. the marine general in charge said three years ago, we do not need it, but we build it anyway. if the appropriate it, we will build it. >> this is an example of that federal spending. i congratulate the inspector general. the importance of that position in afghanistan is manifest, but that is one of the other places where the filibuster is stopping the appointment in other divisions and agencies of inspector general's. >> chuck hagel says you cannot cut the military budget, we

cannot be effective. >> he is probably right, they will not do that. i think they will probably cut him some slack there. ink at what they are doing iraq. millions of dollars of the mission that we cannot bring home. what are they going to do? they will destroy them. this is the competence, not of war -- consequence, not of war, but of making appropriations available without any consequence at all. >> this is clearly a management issue in the pentagon, although i admire how mark was able to blame it on the gop, which i would remind you, is not in office right now. we had an abrupt change in policy. obama announced in december 2009 that we will be out. when you do that, you have to consider construction projects. that did not happen.

>> did you blame the gop? >> i do not think i did. general position is crucial. if you want to see it through the partisan prison, charles, then so be it. the filibusters are preventing the filling of the position of inspector general. we wasted more money in afghanistan and iraq than this. i will be glad when we are gone. >> that is the last word. thanks. see you next week.

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