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>> in the same way the complex of exclusiveness of one's own customs in the area of human rights should be about the universal declaration of human rights should be used as a guideline. it is important to respect the traditional values. it is obvious that a genuine partnership is hardly achievable without relying on the foundations of economic cooperation. the prevailing majority of states are with that -- are operating in the common economic
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space. this creates prerequisites for working towards harmonization of integration processes in various regions of the world instead of trying to pit them against each other by creating new division lines. russiaunderstanding towards the establishment of the economic union. russia attaches importance to achieving the millennium develop goals and drafting the global development agenda for the post- 2015 period. it's main priorities are the eradication of property and support, economic growth through expanding investment opportunities and creating new jobs. enhancement of energy and transport infrastructure, the fight against infectious diseases. cooperation between state should rely on efficient mechanism and a sufficient resource basis.
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in this context, we support the further strengthening of the coordinating role of the u.n. economic and social council. during its presidency in the group of twenty, russia has consistently conducted its policy with if you to developing the groups international with united nations. we consider the resolution of the general assembly on relations between the u.n. and g-20 to be a realistic program of cooperation for the long- term. i firmly believe that by joining on the basis of respect and consideration of one and all, we will be able to move forward towards achieving high goals achieved -- proclaimed in the u.n. charter. thank you very much. i'm sorry if i did not respect the 15 minutes, thank you. >> i thank the minister of foreign affairs -- >> that was the russian foreign minister giving his address to the u.n. now our foreign affairs editor
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joins me in the studio for more on this. a bit of a political science lecture we got there. it was some quite dense ideas -- leadership. talked about the importance of collective leadership. a barb at the u.s. not to take unilateral action. >> a very short speech, much shorter than the speeches we have been hearing from the leaders of other major countries. again, the emphasis on this issue of chemical weapons in syria, condemning the use of chemical weapons but warning about not jumping to conclusions about who used those weapons, saying that are inadmissible but the facts have to be investigated and examined by the security council. he said the use of force, referring to the syrian situation, that has been proved inefficient in the past. there he was referring to afghanistan, and iraq
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and he said over the last two years, the use of force is not worked and therefore it should not be used in syria. he also said that no state can cope alone with these problems the matter how powerful it is. obviously a reference to the united states, and that collective leadership, as you said, is what is necessary. he then said that this collective leadership has led to the united states-russia agreement in geneva, which is leading to syria joining the non-liberation treating. -- nuclear non-version -- on, chemical weapons. he said that human rights should be based on the international declaration of human rights. nothing new in the speech. >> some comments on the current peace efforts there. >> he said the syrian situation
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should not be allowed to overshadow the current talks between the israelis and the palestinians and secretary of state john kerry has arranged. he says the quartet involved, the united nations, the european union, the united states and russia should play a more active role in those associations. >> our international affairs editor. thank you very much for your analysis on the speech to the u.n. the u.n. security council will meet at 8:00 p.m. new york time to discuss the draft resolution to read syria of its chemical. arsenal australia's u.n. ambassador says diplomats will then vote on the resolution, which was drafted following agreement between the five permanent members. the wording would legally obligate syria to give up its chemical stockpile. and his been heralded as a breakthrough. our reporter has more now.
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>> russia and the united states have just introduced to the security council a draft resolution on the illumination of chemical weapons in syria. >> after months of political deadlock, and a growing reached. one-- an agreement reached. one that could be voted on friday evening. but the draft resolution first needs to be approved by the world, the weapons watchdog, the opcw, a 41 member council. they'll convene at 10:00 p.m. on friday. >> this is the first time since the syria conflict began to a half years ago the security council has imposed binding obligations on syria. >> the drafter solutions is the use of chemical weapons constitutes a threat to peace and security. it bans syria for possessing weapons and any other country from obtaining the technology to produce them. the document demands that all syrian parties commit to
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achieving reconciliation and also backs a political transition in the country. it says the security council decides --noncompliance of this resolution, include non- authorized transfer of chemical weapons, and any use of chemical weapons to impose measures. chapter 7 allow sanctions or military force if there is a threat to peace or acts of aggression. but these measures would require a second boat, and there is the risk of syrian allied russia exercising its veto once more. iran's president rouhani has given a press conference at the u.n. he described high-level talks this week on iran's nuclear program as positive. the u.s. secretary of state and the foreign minister after wider talks, to address concerns about iran's nuclear ambitions.
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hassan rouhani also welcomed the positive overtures. >> in speaking with senior european officials and also hearing mr. obama, the president of the united states, it seemed that based on the difference compared to the past. i view that as a positive step and settlement of the differences between the islamic revolt of iran and the west -- the islamic republic of iran and the west. >> a report says that scientists are 95% sure that humans are the cause of global warming since the 1950s. it outlines physical evidence, arguing on the ground, in the air, and in the oceans, global warming is unequivocal. kat3ee moody has this report. >> a report detailing the deepening reports of global warming and why it exists. the panel on climate change said
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temperatures were likely to rise as much as 4.8 degrees celsius by the end of the century. and that sea levels would rise a minimum of 26 centimeters or 10 inches. the panel also said it was more certain than ever that humans are responsible for the study changes to global's overtures. >> it should serve as yet another wake-up call that our activities to date would have a profound impact on society, not only for us but for many generations to come. >> the experts call for concrete commitments on carbon emissions. the u.n. chief said he would convene a summit next september with a goal on climate change by 2015. >> the goal is to generate the political commitment to keep global temperature rise below the threshold. >> the ipcc confirms that each of the last three decades has
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been successively warmer, probably more than at point in the last 1400 years. and it pointed to extreme wather patterns and natural disasters, including heat waves, droughts, and floods as a warning of what is to come if immediate action is not taken. >> that is all the news for the moment, but we will cross 30 view to our world this week. >> in the newsroom. it is time for the world this week. 7 days. four correspondence, one hour. with us, how are you, sir? >> ok, francois. >> he is fresh off the train from berlin. tony -- from catalan television station. franco-syrian photo journalist and paris traffic could not keep her away. ceoome on in. hamdan.
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>> i am making an instance -- an entrance. >> i bring you a sample of the world's best from newspapers around the world. >> and translating into french. >> we have a sites that work in english. the world this week, where you can always join the conversation on facebook and on twitter. our #twtw. too early to say if the world is a different place after u.n. week in new york, but you could make the argument, iran's new president courting western media, disowning nuclear weapons ambitions. while hassan rouhani may have ducked out of a handshake with his u.s. counterpart, his foreign minister hit the mark with an unscheduled bilateral meeting and the promise of a fast track nuclear disarmament
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negotiations announced in the company of the u.s. secretary of state. >> needless to say, one meeting and a change in tone which was welcome does not answer those questions yet, and there is a lot of work to be done. >> agreed to jumpstart the process so that we could move forward. now we have to match our words with action. and that's i hope not the challenge. >> in french, there is an expression, once there are does not make the spring. >> it is crazy with the change of style can do. >> it is nice the people smiling and shaking hands. >> i do not think it is enough yet, but it is really nice that this year the president's discourse that they u.n. was more friendly than what i put in a judge of the 8 years -- a up
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and dibefore. the political prisoners, one of them a very famous lawyer who was there some time. there are some things happening. there are new newspapers opening. there is a bit of fresh air. i'm not sure we will solve the nuclear issue easily. >> what surprised you the most from this week? >> maybe all the -- of the holocaust with the cnn interview with the iranian president who did an interview with cnn, and kind of recognize the holocaust. that means he didn't say it was the most important -- it was a massacre. so it's strange for me to see how people focus on that.
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the same week he announced that he wants to solve the nuclear situation in a few months. maybe that is more important. it is really strange. the way every word he says is collected and commented like he's going to change the world, but it is true, we have to wait and see what they do. >> he was the center of attention. lebanese daily headlined obama extends his hands to rouhani and hollande shakes it. hollande did get that handshake in. what do you think looking at those images? francois hollande, why did rouhani duck out of these handshakes with obama? >> when they go to new york and sure if there -- and serve their shish kebabs to anyone who will serve it.
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people are going to parse this in so many different ways. but i think you put your finger on it -- you mentioned two words. holocaust-israel. i think this chemical weapons thing is an important sideshow, but nonetheless a sideshow. there is going to be no traction anywhere on any of these issues until two things happens -- the iranians recognize the right of the state of israel to exist. >> but hassan rouhani in his speech on that point said, i'm going to follow the palestinians lead. he said, i will follow the palestinians. >> -- the past 35 years on that. the israelis have to stop building settlements, and no matter how much nice talk you might want to make about the radiance -- the iranians and this new regime, they still have centrifuges running down there,
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they are financing international terrorism, and the issue comes back to making a bomb. so this is all really nice. i think obama should have tracked this guy down and shook his hand. but you know they would have to keep their diplomatic niceties. i think it is way too early to tell, and these people who are prognosticating what is going to happen, because we have warren beaty playing the new president of iran. he looks great. we have seen this before. there is so much distress. the americans during the cold war trusted the russians more than anyone does now this new regime in iran. iran controls on global regime of satraps, terrorist cells. look at kenya. >> you are putting a link -- >> it is not the same. >> i agree that they are doing that, but i do not agree -- >> you do not think the money
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these guys are getting is coming through some of these systems? i believe it is. it is not isolated to one situation. >> it is not only iran. >> if it is all qaeda, we know where the money comes from. >> it comes from the saudis. >> the u.s. 15 years ago. it's not iran. >> there is enough responsibility to go around, but at this point in time, it does not matter which faction is funded by shias or sunnis, it does not matter. >> it does to a certain point. >> it's too simplistic to say because they met in new york in better terms in their negotiations, that does not mean that everything is done. i agree that would be simplistic, even though the headlines the last today seems to indicate. i think that is alive. we will see in the next months how the nuclear factor will
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still be there. at the same time, i would not mix that with what happened in kenya or al qaeda. >> and we will talk about what happened in kenya. on facebook we have a comment -- the ayatollah, not the present controls the country. rouhani is putting on a good case for the world, and the ayatollah still seeks nuclear weapons. i am wary as well. why that handshake did not take place is actually important to some people. and the new iranian president said these things take time to prepare. we need to prepare for that sort of thing. that's what he told american television. the iranian president cagey on his motives for missing the tuesday lunch sponsored by the u.n. secretary-general. the tehran bureau reports that
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one idea floated was that he was put off by the fact that wine was served at the lunch. i am not sure if that is the case. but david ignatius in the washington post said that he did not want expectations to be too high. >> that is too much for the first time he comes here. there -- they have calling the u.s. the great staatan for 35 years. it is a bit sudden to do that. in iran, they're trying to say, sacred union between a hard- line conservatives and the foremost. -- reformists. even to start shaking american president hans, it is too much. -- hands, it is too much. >> i think the international situation, it would explode somehow if to the problems in syria, we would add increasing of the heat in iran.
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i think it was absolutely necessary to calm down, even though it is just for a few months, the issue of iran. even at the same time, that does not mean that iran is going to change a single thing about their nuclear weapons program. what i think it would be, it would be too much just not to calm down the issue on the eve of u.n. -- >> tony, the rhetoric. >> your facebook reader was right. in iran, we know the president is a kind of -- >> windowdressing. >> to the regime. and the supreme guide is the real man in power. this week happened at the same time within u.n. happened very little micro story that iran is maybe not that ready to -- they did the news agency, an
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interview with the french teacher, a political scientist teacher to talk about syria and about the supreme guide and things like that. it was totally fake. he never gave this interview. and it's funny because these are really very odd moetethods. it is very different from the -- what we might expect from the -- >> will the real iran please stand up? last time in iran, you were saying, he's rouhani, the guy who calls the shots is the ayatollah. >> that is interesting. >> after this week, do you get a sense there is an internal tussle going on? >> no, i do not think so. rouhani does that because iran has to put on a nice face, because the only other alternative would have been war.
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there is already war in syria. another front would have been too much. now they need time. >> how much leverage is the new, allegedly new administration in tehran actually going to exercise to de-escalate the g lobal and regional issues? >> i am not sure very much, but i think -- >> here's your coat. see you later. get the formalities right, but you know, forget, let's nevermind about the morales. -- moralities. >> is too easy to always criticize. >> they want to speed up negotiations. >> saying you want to destroy israel, everybody is like, we do not talk to iran. when he says, we want to talk. let's try it at least. >> they are making efforts. >> let them.
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>> the other question is an internal issue. it is a way to disarm the opposition, that it was -- ahmadinijad was never easy. now, is it like dismantling part of this young, educated people that at some point were asking for the arab spring? >> it's very counterintuitive as well, because look who the new administration in tehran has put the pressure on? the israelis. the israelis are the ones here who are having to come out and try not to look like the bad guys to say, do not trust these people. we have heard this before. and everyone is really w illing, they want to embrace this overture. >> by the way, good will among
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men extending to the u.n. security counsel. russia and china agreeing to a resolution obliging syria to abandon chemical stockpiles, forcing damascus unfettered access to u.n. inspectors. there you see the draft resolution as it was worded. we know that already the u.n. chemical weapons inspections team says that there's 7 sites, no longer four, that are purported to have chemical weapons. again, are we being too cynical that we will say that this will all come to nought>? >> maybe we should say, wait and trust. to be honest, it is true. in the last month, there were plans with the arab league, the eu, a lot of people coming and a lot of promises and plans with six or seven or eight points, and everybody signs it and everybody is happy.
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but at the end of the day, nothing changes. it is the same, killings every day. use of chemicals and with airplanes. scud missiles. unfortunately,the syrian people have the feeling that they have been totally left over in this war. handshakes and parties -- >> they have this impression because it is true. the situation. i think the deal they have struck russia and the u.s., basically, even though france was around trying to help, but has happened in the end is just a solution for both diplomacy's audit does do nothing -- but it dodes do nothing for syria. >> russia is in the driver seat and if putin wanted to happen, it is going to happen because it will make obama look worse than he is now internationally. i think this is a good -- >> what you mean?
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what is going to have an? >> i think the chemical weapons will go. >> this week russia -- assad says he needs $1 billion. >> it will take so long. it is so difficult. >> it could be easier to dismantle than first thought. if assad does not comply, there is a slight hitch, a second resolution to enforce, which the russians do not look like they will agree to anything like that, but with all of the diplomacy route being tried this week, does it make it easier for barack obama to bypass the united nations should push come to shove? >> yeah, maybe he can say all diplomat issues have been tried, and now if assad does not dismantle, they can strike, but i do not think it will come to that. i think we'll see a slow process of dismantling. and you only know if they have
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or do not have chemical weapons after a few years. you cannot know for sure if they'ved dismantled that everything >> as the threat of u.s.-led interventions, 13 factions representing various shades of islamist is owning the free syrian army this week. what does that say? >> it is very logical, anyway. these people have been waiting and waiting, because we say they are islamists. when you look at the list, they are more moderate or they are into secular states. whatever. all of these people have been waiting for a long time for promises, for funding, for weapons, for support. they have nothing. why would they still wait for istanbul, i mean for the coalition, the syria coalition backed by the west?
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but at the end of the day, the situation on the ground is really terrible. they have a a lot of popular support, but there is not at all support from outside. and let's put it right. we hear a lot of people saying we do not have syria because there are a lot of islamists and it is tough, but the truth is that there are a lot of jihadist because we do not -- syria. >> is a catch 22. >> when we come back, in the world this week, we will look at the question of who is behind th at attack on that mall in nairobi. stsaayw with us.
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the city lives in fear of bombs and shootings. it's people are weighed down by corruption, but one woman will not give up. a member of parliament, she is risking her life to defend women's rights. with should be able to continue her fight when the americans leave? -- will she be able to continue her fight when the americans leave? an exclusive report on "france 24." >> welcome back. before we resume the world this week, let's give you a sample of the stories we're following. at the top of the hour on "france 24". the u.n. security counsel be voting in the coming hours on a resolution that obliges damascus to offer unfettered access to weapons inspectors. use of force would have to be approved a later date. barack obama saying that the resolution is " potentially a huge victory for the international community."
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at least 600 arrests in kartum, the worst unrest that country has seen in years. at least 50 killed by security forces. antigovernment protests continue to gather pace their. -- there. and a barcelona superstar messi before the judges overcharges that he and his father evaded ta xes. we'll have those stories at the top of the hour on "france 24." welcome back. this is the world this week. a photojournalist. and the catalan television broadcaster. welcome back to all of you.
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they are searching the rubble of nairobi's westgate mall. the seige concluded tuesday with a solemn speech by kenya's president. 67 killed. on social networks, comments have been a tribute to al shaba b militia. the mesmeric performance was gripping, but despair not, that was just the premiere of act i. so it is unfolding in a very weird way. because you have a conflict between kenya, which has forces inside somalia, and an islamist militia on the run, and then there is also p.r. that is taking place, a lot of it in english, over social networks. >> -- kind of a p.r. field, because it is one of the largest malls in africa.
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a lot of westerners, upscale. a lot of westerners go, tourists. we see the french tourists there. it is a real target that is not chosen by chance. that -- it's something that was sure to be the center of attention of everybody. so the images are amazing. it is really verbal images we have seen. i could be there, i could be going to the mall with my kids. for terrorists, it is a real -- >> sounding board. >> with twitter also, and all these new technologies. >> what is unclear is the number of attackers. so far five attackers says the interior minister. their bodies have not been formally identified. we had panelist earlier on this week saying you can be sure there will be a lot of foreigners among them. that raises the question -- is this the al shabab militia or is
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this a nebulous jiohad network? >> it is always the same question with al qaeda over the last 15 years. you do not have a real cheese, and then you have a department, and the chief of local areas -- a real chief. it can be anyone who dislikes their concept. and they use their way. now it's the shabab. it could be us. very spectacular. very targeted. >> i think the parallel is that new technologies have made this kind of attacks, a sounding box, as you were saying. at the same time, if we were back 20 years ago when al qaeda was not even trying, was definitely getting to attack neither europe or the u.s.,
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but was trying it in places that were easier to do it. i do not know if we are talking about it coming from somalia or there is another kind of franchise from al qaeda. al qaeda is still there -- they told us that osama bin laden is no longer there. things are going on. i do not know exactly to what extent we can actually retrieve from the -- we've already done it from afghanistan, from iraq, from other places. probably in pakistan, on the borders with afghanistan, there are things going on there that we cannot forget even if -- it's not in the headlines anymore. >> it does not take many people in any case to stage such an attack on the although we are hearing reports of the careful preparation in this case.
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what is also interesting is that this is all going on and suddenly, a lot of the attention is on somebody who possibly was not even in the country. we have no confirmation. this woman -- the so called white widow, the widow of one of the bombs of the underground in july, 2005. this is what has been the focus of a lot of media attention. >> yeah, it adds to the confusion and to the frightening taste of it. because, like, what is the link between them is that they are a global network. it's a bit -- >> this is also what we call, in media, we know it. the peopleization. the politics, we do not talk about ideas. you talk about somebody who has a kid. >> she sold the film rights.
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listen, this is pop star. our profession has become overly accessed with numbers, how many are dead. where do the weapons --comedy weapons were there? where-- how many weapons were there? where did the funding come from? i go back to the 1960s to a document called prairie fire which was written by the weather underground with the help of the era communist revolutionaries in africa and cuba. all of this is plotted out, this type of confusion. the weather underground wanted and did very effectively on a smaller scale saw the same kind of destruction in the united states. so those of us who have been around longer than others have seen this before. and these terrorists are winning precisely because i think our
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profession and those who are going after -- >> how should we have covered this? >> there should be a more holistic approach here. i think that one of the things, one of the questions that needs to be asked of the intelligence agencies here is to find out. for instance, i would like to see a story and this chart that shows me all of these terrorist groups. i do not care who is funding them. >> it is important. >> terrorists, is not a definition. it is the way they do things. we can be terrorists for most of them, because some people see them as freedom fighters. and some others -- >> there is a big difference.
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if someone wants to call anyone at this table iteris, because what we think, that is fine, but no one is funneling --if someone wants to call anyone at this table a terrorist, because what we think -- where is iran? where are all the other countries, russia, in trying to wipe these people out? i can tell you from my years in russia, if there is a terrorist threat in russia like they believed in chechnya, you know what they do. they take everyone out. there is no messing around. i am not saying the west should do that, but i'm saying the russians know how to get rid of a threat in their own backyard. and i believe that the west, and journalists as well, are too, have become too timid for all of these clinial sensitivity reasons to go after these folks. >> i can tell you that some villages in pakistan have been totally wiped out just the same method we are talking about, the
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russian method, and that is by u.s. >> absolutely. >> u.s. airplanes and drones. >> there are no stories on the. that is the kind of story i'm talking about. we do not see those stories int the u.s. press. because the press, and covering terrorism since 9/11, particularly in the united states has pretty much become the water carrier for the various of ministrations. we are supposed to be the outsiders. we should, but too many journalists today want to be the insiders. i have seen this track over a 42 year career. and we've lost the plot here. >> let me ask, because your job is to read a lot of newspapers. this week, do you feel as though there was an us v. them
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mentality in the coverage, for instance, of what happened at the mall in nairobi? >> yeah. there is craziness in coverage. it is always like this when symbols -- there has been much more coverage of this than bombings in pakistan or iraq or anywhere, because it is about. >> westerners are involved. >> yeah. it is a simple we can understand -- symbol we can understand easily. maybe the street market. >> the same thing. >> but the question is, how do you fight them? really. >> i do not think anyone has figured out an effective way to fight them yet. >> so it was just to a point, to what you were talking about before, i agree. most journalists have done something wrong. and maybe they are just trying to make it so simple for readers or listeners, that at the end, we betray the complexity of what we are talking about. we are mixing lots of things.
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and when we are talking about kenya, we do not know exactly yet, but we are going in to talk about -- >> white widow. she is the lead, and she should not be. >> it is mostly networks. some newspapers have put on very good analysis by specialist of kenya that were quite accurate. >> analysis. i'm talking about shoe leather reporting. that is going to advance the story. with rare exceptions -- there was a great story in the new yorker this week on iran, which i recommend everyone to read -- that kind of reporting is lacking. there are still some people who do it. >> but not enough. >> tony, back from the field.
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you have been covering the german elections, where the left has a problem with the center- right embracing many of the same policies the left support has fizzled over the past decade in germany. here in france, too, sometimes the lines between the left and the right get blurred. case in point, the latest remarks by socialist interior minister about expelling france's estimated 15,000 romer people to bulgaria and romania. >> the majority have to be taken to the border. we're not here to welcome these people. i think we have to say these things. it is not about stigmatizing. it is about facing reality. the problems we deal with in the cities. the roma are supposed to stay in their country and integrate society over there. >> raare those the words of a socialist?
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>> not at all. at the same time, are those the words of an interior minister? that is the problem. he cannot just talk about philosophy. he has to try to find solutions to real problems. and the truth is that there are lots of problems with the roma communities near paris. >> working-class suburbs. >> exactly. what i s wrong, point out an ethnic group, that is a problem. it makes a stigma to the whole community, but it is true that there have to be some solutions. in some cases, they were trying to find new housing for these groups of people has worked wel l. we have seen some because we have done many reports in the last two years about this. but the truth is that it is still not the real solution for the whole problem.
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i do not think the problem is sending them somewhere else, which is what he implies. >> it's chilling. >> i thought the next word out of his mouth was going to be pogrom. remember, this is very french socialism. french socialism is about giving people what the socialist think is good for them. and obviously, we have the socialist minister here who is saying, this is what is good for you. cadres get together and let's ship these people out. i do not even think sarkouzy would have gone that far. did he go as far as that? >> he said something that was shocking. he said there is a problem with the wrong community in france. when you point any group -- i cannot imagine anyone saying there is a problem with muslims or jews in france. >> there is a problem.
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>> let's hear the solution. >> i think that what's frightening about all of that is seeing how much the ideas of the extremes have come in the public area. even the socialist interior minister goes on that field because he knows the national front will do it. and the momost frightening thig is that he is the most appreciated, the most popular french minister. >> all right, the lines blurre whend it comes to this issue, though the law is the law when it comes to labor rights. so says one cabinet member in defense of a court ruling thursday forcing paris area home improvement stores to keep their door shut on sunday. the minister adding there is no proof that sunday openings
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increase consumer spending. the ruling and its ensuing protests follow a dispute over the ban on extended hours at paris's champs elysee for sefora that wanted to stay open until midnight. the ruling, work can only be until 9:00 p.m. and be justified by a necessity to ensure business continuity or social services. >> this is very french. i think in a world that never sleeps right now, wanting to -- i am not saying in small towns. in small towns, maybe ther is a need to help little shoppers to have a normal timetable for work. but in champs elysee, please. we're talking about tourists that go out from any of the spectacles there, any shows.
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why -- they have a right to go and buy something. >> i heard, i used similar words to those of tony when i spoke to a french colleague today. she replied, you know what? it is good to have a day when you are not obsessed with buying stuff. >> i don't laugh at something like this. ui also figure how much pressure there is on people who work there to stay till midnight. >> they want to work. >> there was a study at sefora, and a minority of people who signed -- >> in this country, if you get more job, that is a win-win. we're coming up on october, which we are usually celebrating french lunatic month. this is just the raising of the curtain. look it. asking a french socialist, or a hollandista to revitalize the
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economic vitality of this country is like asking a circus clown to perform open heart surgery. i am not being kind to circus clowns. >> this is a justice decision. it is not something done by hollande. >> have you looked at the unemployment in this country? have you looked at the number of people trying to start businesses that have had to leave the country because they are taxed to death? this is absurd. >> tony, this brings us back to where you have been in the field trip -- germany. they have lower unemployment. the trade-off, though, is they have given up a lot of social rights. >> definitely. i think that has a different circumstance to what we are talking about. to open stores later. it's true that the fact is that
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most people in germany have the feeling that the economy is going well, and at the same time, it is true that there are so many people feeling that maybe they would need an increase in their salaries. i think this is what is going to happen in the next few weeks. the christian democrats who won the election are going to have to negotiate for a coalition. one of the things that is on the table is just to try to reflect this need for some more money to spend. because the problem in germany, everything is going well in germany, but they consume less than the rest of europe. >> they are trying to boost consumer spending. a final point about france, unemployment is down. >> in august. >> so? >> maybe it is starting to work here, too. >> let's wait three or four months. >> what percentage of gone out of the job search market? that is the key statistic. if this decision is designed to draw investment capital to france, then these people who run this country right now really are living in a looney tunes cartoon.
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end of story. >> we are going to move onto to another story, which has grabbed headlines. the guardian calls them qatar's world cup slaves. 44 nepalese migrant workers dying. half from heart failure or workplace accidents. for more let's go to nicholas rushworth. hello. >> thank you, francois. >> the story has been followed up by an international legal report on this. >> the whole story in the guardian has made a buzz worldwide. there are lots of details about workers not -- no right in qatar. the conditions for them are horrendous. that piece outlining all kinds of details and linking to all kinds of reports, but one focus -- one thing that stood out is from the ambassador to qatar fo r nepal. her name is maya -- and in that
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report, she is saying that the emirate of qatar is nothing less than an open jail. i wanted to delve deeper into that. and i went to the link that the guardian gave to her picece there. in saying that her excellency got into some serious souop there. she gets rapped on the knuckles by authorities in nepal. >> she has been recalled. >> in today's kathmandu post, the government recalls sharmah. she was appointed by the ruling maoists. she refused to go back. she's very controversial. she's getting a buzz in nepal.
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>> she is getting it from both sides, from the qataris, and also from some of the nepalese migrant workers. >> look at this, amnesty international piece -- her attempts to get one of the nepalese workers in qatar in jail has drawn criticism. you can see bette-noire there. he said, her work was not up to scratch. she did not help the migrant workers. >> they did not have enough back up. >> in nepal it's about, we know the plight they face. it is the counselor official that is not up to scratch. a lot of workers are going off to malaysia and not to qatar. >> this story.
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the numbers are staggering. we are talking it could be 4000 people killed between now and 2022. >> tragic, but an old problem. we heard the same thing and united arab emriairates. there have been many strikes in many deaths of these migrant workers. the saudi arabia, the filipino community. >> what should fifa do? >> they will do nothing. >> what should they do? >> pullout of qatar. >> i don't know why craig is not happy with this. it looks like an ideal world for him -- no unions, 24 hours work, they work night and day. they're paid a handful of dollars. what are you complaining about? >> there is one thing you need to remember when these argument go on, particularly when it comes to france, that it was both conservatives and socialists in this country who
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work together to create what is ardently the best health service -- arguably the best health service in the world. no one in this room, certainly not me, is arguing that there is something wrong with the social services network they put together. it is first-rate, but it has got out of hand. when you have close to 60% of the income in the country of the gdp generated by the government, y ou have a serious problem that is going to get worse. the other end of it is what we are seeing down in qatar, which has been going on. it is shameful. this ambassador who was recalled put her up for a nobel peace prize. it has been written about. no one pays attention anymore. >> i know. >> it is obviously not the same scale, but the brazil labor minister has blown the whistle on one construction company that is doing an extension to sao paulo airport ahead of the
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personal world cup in 2014. the company had forced 111 men to work in slavelike conditions. sleeping on mats. paying $220 to secure the job. we are starting to have a blowback when it comes to hosting these major sporting events. >> well, the problem sometimes is that because they are given two countries that want to show their best in a stressful way, maybe they are not ready at that point, or their societies are not as ready in terms of the construction, but to give the services that one expects from these kinds of events. there are these excesses. let me say, i am just coming from berlin, three weeks ago there was a judge in berlin, there was a case of somebody who was getting paid less than 2 euros per hour for ajob. of course, there was a big
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debate to what extent even in europe we are getting into this kind of savage wages for people who are doing a job that should be properly controlled and properly paid in the proper sanitary conditions. of course, pointing out qatar and brazil gives the example, a boom example. exactly, but that is happening. when we are talking about crisis in europe, so many times we are giving way to excesses like this. people are getting to jobs they would never -- >> more and more rich people and more and more poor people. that is where we will have to leave it. thank you very much for joining us. thank you for being with us here on "the world this week."
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