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program was delighted to have the president of the international association of art critics. dr murray the box only to be our special guest to talk about the state of the international community of art critics will come to the program mart. thank you raymond for inviting me it's a great pleasure to be here was the place is ours to have the key on the program today then let's talk about the international association of art critics and the uae elected its president thanking october of two thousand and eleven. he told was a little bit about the association what its function is to walk on activities to do. cause guess so will we go back to the to the late nineteen forties how association was established by the unesco up to the second word for it and we owe one of the end she owes established on. by that organization up to

promote state of independent culture and arts international. so since then i mean it was so originated as their relatively small but important association and it has grown to sixty three national chapters we have sixty three countries and india association and we have about four thousand five hundred members said they were all quite so it's done it is nice to get his sizable with it so i think it's it's soo wonderful association international kind of gathering of critics that done to promote some art criticism but also speaks about contemporary art speaks about being in the country in general. and i must say before we go even for their holiday like that i am to be keying taipei and taiwan what happened to have your key. and though by the way what kinds of activities she do with the association. for

example do you have a yearly assembly off all the men dish that yes we are we here we have time. we have some programs which have pretty much stable since variable rate or intents of the association one of them use our way out annual congress in which we organize up in different countries each year and so on this unit was seen in slovakia on. up next here we are coming to south korea s i'm very happy that we will be present in asia. and then we we already have several congress is planned to have the time so the following year we are going to sweden. and then we'll go to school flew to cuba so up so each year we get together are we. discuss different aspects of five criticism we got there critics from around the world and time. it's a very important event for us because stuff. as critics in different countries in the world we don't have that much opportunities to see

each other and rulers and to be to get there so i think that allows us not the only two to discuss stuff. but this is on a global scale but also allows us to establish contacts then and catch up with that lead to two years with what we are doing individually in different countries. then we also organize stuff. different events so we organize this policy i would organize workshops and so on. so's so we are trying to do as much as possible onto it the associate she's based in new york. as for your pics now. now i embrace the new italian eighty s the station is based in paris our way out with offices in paris the presidents come from different countries still up i'm based in the united states. it was born in poland but come to us citizens so it's out of the third president from from the us to

cool and we had to team president seen it so far so good to fifteen coming to sixteen credits and the end of march. you know a lot of people we see what exactly is an art critic you know i mean you can think of so many diff is their weakness in the war on the far right has a good critique on millstone of going on tv he said and you can yell paintings sculpture and the other states and the how do you categorize all these stiff in the areas of the art is sweet we are critics art critics meaning we we specialize in the visual arts so we have not been critics when the theater critic swim on top. music critic so we knew we only visual arts critic although the store to go up and most of the they specialize in contemporary art. so off you know people who write about that renaissance aren't all borrow current are usually considered art historians more than art critics though

so in some way we are present all fall of the arts you know we deal what's happening now. we tried to kind of reports to a live audience is to know what's happening at the moment so we can write reviews about borrow car and go about it traditional chinese art but the idea is that we report on today so it will be like a program you know when you tried to kind of fall. inform your neo knew you were just about what's happening in the world nowadays. okay and that given the fact that you know it's pretty much on the official aspect of the heart and go home get me when people get together at you and your congress to bohol do they relate to each other out to the disgust because he'll still within the realm of visual art history is still a lot of different categories yes no and then the do people need to. but i think one of the things which we tried to do is to focus on the house as professionals go up in some way we devote a lot of

time to discussing our crib is this mistake kind of living practice and as you know. and any kind of journal is for it. this is in the gong different transformation so it sits there is no ones who aren't quit this is for every hello we are just to be the changing landscape the media landscape in the wake of news papers deal with our crew this has been so long so there's a very important part of of activity trying to basically discussing among professionals from different countries about how we as we represent our profession the other think we also talked about contemporary art or art in general you know kind of critical aspects of foreign fields of fecal also practical. i'm trying to involve more in all more artistic noah conferences so we can of coke or rather a close here with that with artist i think the criticism does not exist without the art facility on tuesday the twenty two where to get there and i think sometimes those relationships i'm not

the strongest we would like them to be. but do you have people claimed both sites coakley bills will send you the artists he also being art critic yes yes this is there's a long tradition actually off off off of the critics were also practitioner. things are the president the current president to fight the usa i was present to fight the usa before i became president of the national association the current president christopher french he's an artist and critic school already. i will extend how one has seen a member of the international association the snow since two thousand for right and then the you know under the name of the you know i think though when the icon taiwan eye and then the wheels will cut the world congress here in town one being the old school and college this fall the collision. then what would those experiences like at the time i don't think you are present they get. yes i was the president and i was in really well with the hike

on the bungle on the two national scale i was already in new york. so i can use here for the no no iii and iv drip. but on the other hand side i think that means that we can have more congress is chio more activities so close yes i think from my cody sacred it was a very successful congress people were delighted to be here and the you know i mean i hope there will be another opportunity for us to come back so it's really looking forward to that but this is no scold you for your first trip to tumble. it's my first trip to ohio on the line and over the course of the last few days. why have you seen how one one two an impression of the art community here in town. yes this is my eighth day of tv but it seems like i've been here or there for a month that he's you know who we have been very intense program very interesting program we would be getting tight paid and we went to one

chong and then we went scooped up until they die and die in an anti jong so basically we make the whole tour of the items then. we've seen a lot of people from the yet some of the officials but goes the museum directors aren't fisk you're a tourist and so i have to say i'm very impressed by the body the dvd the kind of the intensity of the of the art scene here at and the interests of facts to offer a figure is in the in between are still high. i never expected that kind of reception and i'm really really delighted to know the way on being kind of greasy fear could and will extend its kind on the other hand is not yet a member of team tennis association. i was supposed to eventually time that can become a member right and then the youngest and that you know since two thousand eight years this being the yearling improvement of relations speech by china and taiwan hit a deer is already a lot

of exchanges and this is the contact between the artistic community stumbles sites by reducing the costly new feature that the war the more you know intense exchanges between the two sides when both of members of the international association of the art critics. well i hope so. as i mentioned we hit sixty three national chapters around the world that i think we on north perth he can do well to represent the teenager. i think we have still room for improvement. we have a section here we have a section in hong kong we have the sixth inning. in the south korea and japan. in pakistan then the good dish but i think there is more a wee we don't have a section in china we don't have the section in india. we welcome the proposed known highly idea is that this is an association cannot not international association and should include every book ever but the street in the same way because there is

no set of difference as i mentioned it several times between the us section which is the biggest victim and it's a bit but the stunning section which has only seven member. i mean it in now i kind of perspective everybody's kind of equal. so we want to get more members because i think the more members we have been more of we can share the experience and also kind of help each other cities do so. so i think oh it's a gradual process. you know it's that it doesn't come from moscow in the fight. sections to be created as the sections that are the people who come and say we want to create this section and there is the process have to do it people have to adopt our way in the statutes and regulations that facility yes yes you are. we need to take the first break on the program will be right back. i did. is. says. check

eye. welcome back to the second part of today's world and feel that i won all but on the hosts were equal what we'll continue our conversation without the marae bartlett who's the president off the uk's national association of art critics. mari who was talking that this issue first visit to taiwan. he gave this a preliminary impressions of flow when you have seen on the island. specially with reference to the art community here. kabul the overall impression regarding the people. olive defined in the city easton know some of the corporations or institutions they had visited it once your overall impression. but i was sick she asked this morning friday by a journal this problem of taipei times still in doubt so what does the movie most of the memorable aspect of play visit them this gives a nice it's one of the definite been number one says be

the warmest of people here in our day. the kind of the warmth that i have received is it. it's incredible mom very very you know i'm very grateful to two to two in ot with the above info being such welcoming and so so that's definitely something very special and and and and in some way. note the typical in on you know sometimes people create more assistance he added the debate but the distance almost doesn't exist in this very refreshing and so that's an it goes from the mill complex with students who of very open and eager to discuss things but it goes to the high attendance of members so they have a man called politicians and so on so it's it's something which exists in the lake rose the society it's not just in the upper level cia itself on the phone on different levels those of its this remarkable way. i cannot stress how oh how remarkably fits in. of the other the steaks i have

tried tried to see as much as possible interim so for the kind of institutions to have the kind of artistic come in of institutions so we've been doing about the visits to museums then stop. the difference if the sand and then it's also an incredible by a few experiences because from the palace museum and will you know which this. i guess he'll national museum where you could be. incredible treasures and i was i was in office surprise that an answer to. of the light hits it to find out that you know that the version off of a few more non these eyes is a beautiful jade to the beach and so is it says it's a beautiful piece and it's kind of mesmerizing go. samoa have to one of these us in my head you know it is wonderful with the baby on top of that love the old one from europe and democracy itself. so that was a remarkable the collection is spectacular it's kind of

bought into the what's what else can one say it's it's it's just the treasures so then we went to museums that presents contemporary art and digital aren't all kinds of posts to humanistic apart and so on. that's very interesting to see how i wound it contributes to the international scene and what kind of experience you can get here in use in your country. we went to the team a museum in. i'm in sweden is still under construction but it's almost getting ready for the innovation i guess next year. that said that's a very very interesting experience in itself and on visits to it as you know it's a it's a collection devoted to western art through which urine. i guess it's unique in this part of the world and will use was to be able to see ghosts works you know here without having to travel to paris so long to know me know

or they know. will new york it's it's it's it's spectacular and i'm not very much the court to seeing the museum when it opens them our life has such a variety of things in stock on the most votes that none of them. and then in this incredible collection of violins which this i mean it's a world class to be on for a prestigious unique and no other collection like this so i must say that out. you know i'm kind of overwhelmed by it beats the moon night that comes from these kind of experiences and then dinner and then we'd visit to some studio so i got the chance to see how what people are doing in austria in a more kind of fun. individualistic way you know in their studios and the us. and then the we is it that there are a musician a hottie musician they know who was cited for us so it's a guy i mean it's it's it's sick call spectrum of continuous descent. and what's wonderful i think what you know you are running away insists is very special because the us would affect

change between that this part of the world and that the western way of valuing address those silly no way it says youtube you can see this kind of top two sides of the experience would have enough of a scientist and a very very unique local phone book well whatever where not much just for the region. and then you have posts are very complex and very interesting set of multi ethnic society and you know multicultural society in which i think it's email for people who come from abroad. with pseudo without didn't know each of the aisle on me. we can assume that there is no one cut to one people you know it yet sit this one comes to on people but the with many colors. and that's what constitutes also a bang great aspect of the society of writing that israel has the spectrum off all dairy costs yes yes yes yes and in no way you might get calm one's culture like me you know we just discussed. we of course have the chinese call to harriet it's great that

the court rightly yours to look at taiwan's history over the years who plead guilty or in cornelius were illegal colonize but the touch and thereafter by the japanese thai and it's really you see some real treats. it's right up the cupertino colonial years from both dutch and also come to the beach and and and beans that they need help global ice age. and then you also see a lot of the american eel european influences here. and then that given the fact that you have such a meal rich cocoa foundation in taiwan. i've seen tons of art and artistic development. there has certainly is a very good inexpensive meal he sent it right now in houston. you know to have more more is up to the arts and the artistic developments taking place in taiwan when to release into the sewer so so the lesson and that's you know i i came here at the invitation of professor ken gets that from

a hike on friday was the president if i cut taiwan to whom i'm very grateful flow for this opportunity to speak but um you know i'd given to him. i kind of sense that here the weekends to establish a relationship which will be beneficial to both side and as i keep repeating this week. i didn't come here with the unopened bag of offerings to know if i came here to learn and also through to kind of exchange experience and i think that is on the way how we connect to collaborate. it's not certified. in all colonizing another stays on the other kind of coming up on the basis that we have to speak to each other and learn from each other so in that respect i think it's this that phenomenal place for us to learn about you know the wii. the meaning of cut to the meaning of art center including contemporary art you know very much and he has been talk in the building plastics industry in the high tech though we cannot avoid due to wide use of social

media. the ipl and that this really has had the impact on many people's lives at home many industries and communities. oh what is the impact so far. if there's one on the art no criticism can still come to the international has said the company though making things easier to be assimilated. known to be you know it's spread out and end of making the communication a lot easier. first off i have to say hi. i do indeed have made dozens of taiwanese friends on facebook so that more than in any of the trip so that means that the social media interactive there that are present here and you know so i probably will have them into little bits of trainees he's the reason on to the wilco media come back now to discuss the social duty of causes and put them in the weeks he held the world has changed because of the presence of social media and so for us it's it's it's

it's one of the plot from that you know has said is that as the newly elected president if i came to national actually i promise to think so. one thing that will expand to other associations beyond the existing membership so we can be more visible in the nationally and the other one was to provide our members and the you know the people with whom we interact. the platform for communication which is soo i went to a live site so i think or us it's very important to know we have had to. we are headed our way with psychics who will be up soon. it's so hard in a few weeks into a launching a new websites which will be much more interactive than the one on the idea is that one of the programs that we want to own channels to outweigh the website will be two creates a set of platforms from different critics from different countries to engage in a conversation with the eye with members but not

only without remembers them and say maybe you know next year sometime to invite the sky when his critics to spend one month of stuff but engaging in a conversation with a you know with people from different parts of the world on the meeting off on whatever they do want to to discuss few years at the end so so it will be a very active. i guess for all for engaging people both members and non members seeing you know in a conversation which can lead to. i kissed interesting set of developments in the woods yet and coffee bar art criticism of what is the trend recently named the national. has it become ian gilmore of those you know off the exercise of you know intellectual idea is that no people exchanging views. or is it becoming something that no more of a derivative of the artwork itself. well i mean there are two issues here or on new shoes kind of more of what could that

criticism a should be gone and be open and the other issues swap. what kind of the world expects for us and where do we fit into the existing where to go. on the first lead of the baby issue of kind of how we exercise our profession. i think we have the number of challenges. you know i think a contemporary art becomes more and more present in it like so many people you know for different reasons including this astronomical prices that we see on him in the auction houses right so that people are more and more aware of the presence of on campus and they don't necessarily kind of engage with contemporary so our mission as critics i think is to capitalize from that experience for the expos are being produced by you know bite the new cio with which reports on the kind of those spectacular defense in and then engage people to ordinary people. no people

that don't necessary have been exposed it took on concurrent with contemporary art so they can benefit from it i think there is some talk with people you know sometimes the year to engage with contemporary because it seems to be so exclusive so different from their experience of corn in our own section to bring read a close yes the brink because who would be losing the regular people that say from the street in all parts. he came in art criticism became a little bit isolate itself i think we should wear it on the ways to bring back people and so don't discuss with them is very kind of thought honestly you know what contemporary art is about because my idea is that people who don't have to expose it to cancun for our appt and you know sometimes they say i don't understand me. it's it's not that they are eager to take shape our responsibility to contemplate how it is and as it up and discuss it then and people often when they say i don't buy it i don't get that because it's too esoteric

it's too complicated. they have reasons to say because art sometimes goes way too far away from their experience and an eyelid responsibility is to bring been lacking. he has already given that she can hold a thought on second point of it because we need to take another break the program will be packing a few minutes the sells. says.

the welcome back to today's program fielder kyle while that may host a week will will will continue our conversation without them our apocalypse. who's the president of the international association of art critics. and of mari and my apologies for interrupting you are the way you are talking about the second point. the div regional and national trend at all our christmases but i think it was a good break because either way i want to separate those two issues

the wound which is what he does off the coast which record what you see in soho they give us a perfect moment of innocence it taking the ball in the polls so going back to iowa the second point is that the us we know would be the media landscape has been changing quite rapidly because of the new kind of so shawn nelson rise and also the internet and so on and so on. there is some of the parker this is that this move from off from the printed press for its failures and from gnawing on television and radio two onto the internet. we want to stay as visible as possible again in the all media so knocked on the unknown being set up the internet kind of presence but also lean on tv that you know radio and in the newspapers and magazines and optus as soon as you know i mean there's been this space for art that is inspection often shrinks and

i think it's it's it's stinky everywhere. you know in the united states in europa in other parts of the world there is more and more emphasis on kind of the current kind of tough there's any unknown people on morning shows that scene in coconut contrarian knowing so so we are facing also had a dilemma here because we have to be more presents we will want to stay present you know we don't want to be so upset he then had approval to another. another wrong so the way how we can. i think do it it says basically i think what i'm doing here in no way to be more present more focal to present any meat off of art critics association and art critics and its people engaged in they deny people the less sensitive to the unknown to the concerns of people who sometimes don't know anything about art. and that requires you know kind of visibility so so that so and that's this one think which day which i'm aware of that this entailed

that's why i'm traveling so much this is my eighteenth eight international trip this year ago. there's nobody that he is like a lot. it is important news tomorrow that we know all you fine all day you wear many hats for all you got to talk to it being our history. yes and then the old soul you are you know in addition the art historian and a yule school polling in the park. camille critic and off all these different roles that you play. he is the relevance between the study of art history and now you being that you know the president of the international association of you know that you know our critics. it is irrelevant is that you know they complement each other. i think in many ways he is happening nowadays as seen any aspect of life and we do wear many hats to this great idea that it's part of our life it does not deny the old life when some of the state than one job to

stay put in her claim that he has said that that's that's going to see things very quickly i think he is so so in no way it's it's it's it became a normal situation that one has to do many things you know i think i don't see any kind of file this junction between the you know being an art historian of being an art critic or even being a poet. i think you know it's it's adobe honks to the ramos create the right thing and i think you know poetry was a very strong component of a kind of critical own eden park critical tradition. and if i am the stands where lucky been seen in asia more than anywhere else there was no set of traditional western critics this month the ssa as a category that it is is he she it kind of developed from our philosophical writings from the religious right things so song from poetry is going away you know it's the kind of natural extension and if you look at the great critics that we had to deposit the unknown but some of them at the dfo he was a critic but he was so sophie

gaza for some of the bible there he was a great poet and critic so thanks to this kind of fat. the phenomenon of critics being a critic and someone else you know and i think it's a it's a good thing you know because i with medium is the right thing and you know that good poets write good poetry and the rise of swelling in a language you know which is kind of invented been so long is and that's another aspect of practices which i think we have to revisit we have to make sure with that we write what you know that we are not to look skewer that we are not using too much jargon that we had kind of right thing in beautiful language to know is any measures to deal with their existing chinese so in the show polish throne in any language. so in that respect you know art historical background helps me to get that a brother perspective on the way how i look at contemporary art is a distinction between art history and art criticism i would say that the critic has this kind of possibility

filth reacting to what he or she sees in knowing galleries museums in a very kind of up call in and the media and fashion. so we we sort of has this possibility to being emotional being reactive being spontaneous the historian is somebody who complex cornices of puts it in the context of the pastime and you know what to do with that experience it's so but one have the other you know ours histories often composed of both critic of right things written by critics and then it becomes art history on the nature of man and that criticism has to be informed by the castilla to be good for this this this and given the fact that you had mentioned their lead to a lot of people. neil warren people my hubby would not get the exposure to our discussion to contemporary art as much as the with the flight right and the especially now the team beat the newspaper reports

write all i have is that the auction houses the art becomes something very expensive. it's no doubt people would think that it's out of reach. you know i cannot afford the loan to buy a piece of work that i enjoy it at the auction houses. and so therefore you look at one of the institutional clear state of play you will need tons of green are closer to the ordinary people died including museums galleries research institutions and other mass appeal was just a role in the loan deal for steel roll for a couple for art critics are already utility organization like us to try to bring all these different actors guild players together and in terms of promoting. in all art to the ordinary people. but i did i think you know we as her gf at the one be friendly yes you know the museums the gallery's the arts is you're a tourist the critics so again i think we are stronger and we went to get

there so i see this is that he has a very important also mission for us to make sure that we we do work closely with which the artist and with the curator with the museum directors and the worthless wonderful hear that you know we. i feel i think i won on. the this was kind of love is too many people that you know you can be only as strong as in i could train in that respect snow. so i think about this i said you know we are eyeing a kind of a world that has two sides two of which is very much video and one which could be very idealistic and that's where i face. could this is you know i've tasted this promo. i know farm ideally still almost like metaphysical certify presence to know that we need to part two we know it seems that what you said about the auction houses and everything you know there is the hype about the prices actually you can buy a very good art for almost nothing else so yes if you if you think about those people you know who was selling for

millions of post its. it's impossible to buy clothes roles for most of the phone practically everybody except the few who can afford. but it doesn't mean that what you're buying at the auction house it's necessarily the best things that you can buy. actually you can email go to a studio and art this time. in a kind man and you don't find one before it iowa state judge by your heart you don't touch but he was tonight don't think about how much it costs to know best collections were unknown done because people was thinking of it sits where you go you must be the right of the day whereby because they loved it and there are case takes to coincide it with you know whatever it happens officer but that's the only way to do it then you know you have to be fed living with their work apart just like living with someone almost you know it's very personal so if you invite stop somebody to meet with you you want those you know that's where the fight to be part of your life you don't want to possess any true there is something very

foreign to you to be at your house and so that's very important i think to have to have his very personal relationship to art. and in terms of his her mat the kind of value as i said that's where critics probably have to have very important role to play. basically to make sure that we close that gap between you know what. what ordinary people kind of feel that belongs to them and what they are told that certain if it's a statistic ideas about it in tonight so i think we are. the there was no should bring it and bring those things together and explain to people but in the asi said in a very kind of direct and honest with you know when i was featured on time last week. and gentlemen if some of the dish he said. us simple man. then and he said that but they mean it in a good sense to know him meaning that you can soak about complicated ideas in a simple way. and of course it's a great compliment by

his escort me to do it you know we want to speak to people we want to be to communicate. we don't want to just show off in the midst of corners by whitney to take the final break on oprah when one kg backpack. i knew

the eye . the welcome back to the final part of the school then he on the tile while the army hopes we will will will continue and hopefully wrap up this fascinating conversation what got them are a part of that. who's the president of the international association of art critics barak with the top will bid to buy your personal experiences as we stated. you weren't you know trained at the beginning bill has a civil engineer greg hill at columbia university and later on of

course you catch a phd in our history for the city university of new york and the whiny to make such a dramatic change in the pursue of the korean yell from being a junior high and all the way to the life you are craving a look at this job i would say eu no less than a hundred eighty degree turn for help it's still got what motivate me. but i was going to sit in our country as a child that was kind of this one of his gifts to children who you know which all and end of the levi is now a beautiful utah and sound. then there comes a moment in your life when you try to be rational in knowing your family kind of is he in them. the other being played around it. i know you have to have for the future. it is so so that was going. studying civil engineering action was part of my set of rational self you know with the help of the family who said this way we can make you go you will

be safe well i have to tell you in on it goes because it's all been on a gun but the moment in my life when things change because this explains why you know why attached. so i go is to die with this abridged engine year for the company on wall street than that. i was going every day tour can now doing all kinds of design preached assignment that we expect that all the bridges in new york brooklyn bridge would inspect it and so on. and then i was quick in and set free done so and art critic for polish american newspaper the new york could and i was sent to paris to interview a painter and cool when i'm making you is in his early nineties. and i was just turning thirty. and there is so key us fee of one point i will tell us that though it happens that in today's my birthday and you know i'm turning thirty. and i expected that he would say oh you are very young q you can do whatever you want to know from and ninety two year old man. webcke said the inn i said i'm feeling old and he

said you have full rights to feel old. then i said like in them. what does it mean you know you all come not gold it was he sets you up to the polls because this is the time in your life when you should choose whatever you want to do in your pocket and so i went to in your content if we think of it yet is and then six months they terrify i quit my job really and i went back to school with shelby tell you family before heading there to elevate a kind of detail thirty year old can subdue a beverage and on one lot more independent in that way so so i went back to school you know cause stop by every first everything in my life because then i was making as much money as you know this this this pretension year but i have to say i die. it was probably one of the wisest advice is that i got in my life and i'm so they liked it so. thought you know to be an art critic or a historian i think it's a great opportunity to discover the world i would never be

the improv is to pretend opinion on the it's this as art critic and ten. and it creates to argue that it still gave me a lifetime opportunity to two two x to make a difference too because it's not the only about the traveling and i'd like to trouble but but also to to look at something as lewis appears you know i'm not sick of this devotion to both the importance of the art critic but i think we can do enough of things and if you find your place in life when you can kind of tribute to tell from your field. dennis wonderful than you know i of course the engineers they contribute on their field and they are wonderful. i happened to be in austria for this post to do something else by munching kind of bonus of professional if you wish to own vocation whatever it is his head and i would suppose that you are training as you know this is simply engineer will also help in terms of you becoming ill. now the president of

the international association but also in terms of deal making like what you said that in making your milk reduces it very clear very precise and easy for people to understand. you know because just the two hour interview process. today i can see they your responses fairy will fall now they are well organized and that is something the league probably you would attribute that to you or engineering training it is true yet for i dunno it's very difficult for me to jace i tried to be as logical as possible because i said is the only way we can communicate it and i want to communicate with ever but then i think o s the station has the same goal. this up because he also in on the very kind of basic road map to quit but you know i get invitations to teach that m i t for example. also because of the baker on the mit it's that states that home schooling years ago i teach the festive visiting professor write teach that the architecture school

light to start his hood of his trip architecture and history of heart and could assist so i'm in kind of sort of multidisciplinary is that even though i teach at cooper union which is also a small college in new york that experimental you know very very import on the word. we have all this the department's engineering architecture and art studio art so some of my students and junior some of them are cute pics. and i think it's good for them to seeing it yet as you know you can be pseudo science oriented that but you can also develop the artistic side then be to connect to coexist in a beautiful way on main and greet him and given the fact that feeling you were trained as an engineer and now you have seen the president of the taxi association. what will be some of the politics you and he'll tell the younger generations if they are thinking the following your footsteps annie in the future becoming ill and the park created this helps. well i think you know

for safari you you follow your passions so you know you knew your photo if you if you feel that that's what you would like to do it you would like to write about art and just write about are ok. it's also good that you kind of weather and snow i think of going back to school and getting my degree in no phd in art history in them. it sort of ground it's me and you know it's there now like every dial. so you know i've kissed it could assist all of history it's not the only stood up looking and saying i didn't like it i don't like it. describing its kindle having debates it's actually very important because it gives you perspective on on on on the how to milk no and better than that. and so was i saying no it is very important. passion is staid the beginning you know you have to call it writing yes and then the ew ew ew ew create a framework for you all for your passions no it's not the only passion but this also. hopefully intelligent way of communicating. and

then i think was what we need from critics nowadays when youths this ice etc far the sincerity in no way that we shouldn't exist on our own that we should be aware that we have commissioned which is very specific can still communicate school ever about this in no ten and that's that's probably what. young people have to understand that could assist it's not something which will put been in touch with the you know you aren't system few other critics and maybe some academics have the responsibility sweetie to reach out to everybody you know and have an answer to be informed of the other the same time be accessible and oh we know them are a key civilian korea. he wears many hats play different roles yet feel you are pulling your art historian art critic and value in the head of the shoot me jn two national association art

critics. and though which world team joined the deal to most and why. and a t shirt with this some thought into what i think i enjoyed it fellow professors but here it is. i enjoyed all of them right now. i committed myself to be the email was selected fifth president. it's an honor to this possibility. so on the fortunate so fortunate to have to push other things to look at the site penalized to write poetry but i don't have that much time to really stay with the call and soak this up. i hope you know in the future my position as soon as the myth that kind of time span. you can be president on the photo terms it means the six years telco which i think it's it's a very good attendance policy because this way. six years so three years than three years. if you get reelected just enough time to to heat the legacy but on the other hand you have to keep room for other people to continue so when i finished oregano i think i want to write my

poetry i want to go back maybe to teaching and spending will this point i'm interacting with students and stuff. and third i would like to write fiction to hm write the vision both of you know it's so funny until it heals up for a lot of people would think that the artist and art critic. we need to have the inspiration to keep yourself a meal going. i know you travel quite a bit in my hubby's need a lot when you travel in games with the mostly due to feel the inspiration from the mean do you know fall meeting people from going places. for me aware of from everywhere i think of giving is finishing the afl after talking to you live with it said the visit i know it's a very unique moment in an email at it and chew it will translate into something else. i think that's that's how we experience life you know it's that it's not. the i mean there are moments which are very special but what constitutes kind of did you feel like it's kind of transforming many don't have

the ordinary moments in the special moments though. i think i'd learn a lot from them people are basically this thing and aunts who are to start the night when i get my electric up with this ago i stressed in ohio. you mean a thing of the who ended it with garth is still alive not have to say because sometimes people say you aren't this can be an event that kind of has this artificial kind of phenomenon celebrities and so on. i must say that few know the up do really kind of good artist and also recover not recognized internationally that i have pretty cool quite a privilege to know an awful extremely exceptional beings in all very intelligent very creative very sensitive skin on sensible and so on so. so when people talk about the arts contemporary being something you know kind of fun inflate it then maybe kind of hike in another high price to know him know that the new rio are if you know and it can be on this and agrees to that belief can be on the very kind of portland

a memento. that is done by the exceptional beings that we have to listen to that is mari is truly been an honor to have the key of the program today. this is special guest and a you are being very kind it because actually it starts including myself have learned quite a bit foreign policies today oh i wish you all the best in your personal and professional endeavors seem to feature the whole fleet to see you come back to taiwan in the not too distant future thank you very much think you're a man i am am very tonight that the bca i hope that we will be back not only me but now as a station of the critics that we will engage in further discussions say here and elsewhere are you now believe it i do i think is the link is below thank you for watching the pro that today i'll see you next time all night. in

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