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and they kiss you to different faces and they take it that different voices on come on. on the hosts were equal. he enjoys art. what does it take to be art critic
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on today's program was delighted to have the president of the international association of art critics. dr murray the box only to be our special guest to talk about the state of the international community of art critics will come to the program mart. think you're a man for inviting me it's a great pleasure to be here was the place is ours to have the key on the program today. then let's talk about the international association of art critics and the uae elected its president banking october of two thousand and eleven. he told was a little bit about the association what its function so well planned activities to do cause guess. so will we go back to the late nineteen forties. how association was established by unesco up to the second word for it. and we owe one of the end she owes established on. by that
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organization up to promote through independent culture and arts international. so since then. i mean it was so originated as their relatively small but important association and it has grown to sixty three national chapters we have sixty three countries and india association and we have about four thousand five hundred members said the world while so it's done it. it is nice to get his sizable with it so i think it's it's soo wonderful association international kind of gathering of critics of the time to promote some art criticism but also speaks about contemporary art speaks about being in the country in general. and i must say before we go even for their holiday like to die and to bpa in taipei taiwan. what happened to have the key then go on the way what kinds of activities t do what
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the association. for example t have a yearly assembly off all the membership. yes we are we knew we had time. we have some programs which have pretty much stable since they will reach origins of the association one of them use our way out annual congress in which we organize up in different countries each year and so on this unit was seen in slovakia on. of next year we are coming to south korea s i'm very happy that we will be present in asia. and then we we already have several congress is planned to have the time so the following year we are going to sweden. and then we'll go to school flew to cuba so up so each year we get together are we. discuss different aspects off of criticism we got there critics from around the world and calm. it's a very important event for us because stuff. as the dixie in different countries in the world we don't have that much opportunities to see
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each other an announcement to be to get there so i think that allows us not the only two to discuss stuff. this is on a global scale but also allows us to establish contacts then and catch up with that would boost yesterday with what we are doing individually in different countries that then the wheels to organize stuff. different events so we organize this policy i would organize workshops and so on so's so we are trying to do as much as possible onto it but the associate she's based in new york. this way your face now. now i embrace the new italian the association is based in paris our way out with offices in paris the presidents come from different countries so i'm based in the united states it was born in poland but come to us citizens so it's out of the third presidents from from the us to it and we
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had to team president seen it so far so good to fifteen coming to sixteen credits and the end of march. you know a lot of people we see what exactly is an art critic you know i mean you can think of so many diff is their weakness in the world the far right know they can critique on millstone of crying on tv he said you can yell paintings sculpture and the other states and the how do you categorize all these different areas of the art is sweet we are critics art critics meaning we eat we specialize in the visual arts so we have not been critics when the theater critic swim on top. music critic so we knew we only visual arts critic of the store to go up and most of the they specialize in contemporary art. so off you know people who write about that renaissance aren't so borrow current are usually considered art historians more than art critics though
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so we use our way we are to be the president all fall of the arts. you know we deal what's happening now we tried to kind of reports to a live audience is to know what's happening at the moment so we can write reviews about borrow car and go about it traditional chinese art but the idea is that we report on today so it will be like a program you know when you tried to kind of fall. inform your neo knew you were just about what's happening in the world nowadays. okay and that given the fact that you know it's pretty much on the official aspect of the heart and go home get me when people get together at your annual congress in bohol do they relate to each other out to the disgust because he'll still within the realm of visual art. yes he's still a lot of different categories yes no and then the do people eat. but i think one of the things which we tried to do is to focus on the house as professionals go up in some way we devote a lot of
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time to discussing what could this business that kind of living practice and as you know. and any kind of journal is for it. this is in the gong different transformation so it states there is no ones who fought for this is for ever and now we are just to be the changing landscape the media landscape in the wake of news papers deal with art critics has been so long so there's a very important part of of activity trying to basically discussing among professionals from different countries about how we as represent our profession the other think we also talked about contemporary art or art in general you know kind of critical aspect so far it's because of fecal also practical. i'm trying to involve more in all more artistic noah conferences so we can collaborate closer with that with all this i think of criticism doesn't exist without his knowledge of the state that we need to work together and i think sometimes those relationships i'm not the strongest we
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would like them to be. but do you have people claimed both sites. coakley bills will send you the artists he also being art critic gets the assistants there's a long tradition actually off off off of god. critics were also practitioner and things are to stand up. thanks to the president the current president to fight the usa i was president the fight the usa before i became president of the national association. the current president christopher french he's an artist and critic don't think i will stand tall one has seen a member of the international association the snow since two thousand for right and then the you know under the name of but you know i think though when the icon taiwan eye and then the wheels will cut the world congress here in town one being the old school and college. this will be in collusion. then what would those experiences like at the time i don't think you are presently get. yes i was the president and i was in really well with the hike. on
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the bungle on the two national scale i was already in new york. so i can use here so no iii and iv drip photo on the other hand side i think that means that we can have more congress is chio more activities so close yes i think from my cody sacred it was a very successful congress people were delighted to be here and the you know i mean i hope there will be another opportunity for us to come back so it's really looking forward to that but this is no scold you for your first trip to tumble. it's my first trip to ohio on the high angle with the course of the last few days. what have you seen how one one two an impression of the art community here in town as this is my eighth day of tv but it seems like i've been here or there for a month that he's you know who we have been very intense program very interesting program we. we've begun in taipei then we went to. one
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shown in the daily rants who up until they die and die in an anti jong so basically we make the whole tour of the items then. we've seen a lot of people from. the yet some of the officials but holds the museum directors aren't fisk you're a tourist and so i have to say i'm very impressed by. the buy the dvd the kind of the intensity of the of the art scene here and the interests of facts to offer the interest in the in between are still high i never expected that kind of reception and i'm really really liked it in on the way on being kind of free seats here could and will stand the china on the other hand is not yet a member of team tennis association. i was supposed to eventually time that can become a member right and then the youngest and that you know since two thousand eight years this being the yearling improvement of relations with china and taiwan here and here is already a lot of
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exchanges and this is the contact between the artistic community stumble sites type would you think the costly new feature that the war the more you know intense exchanges between the two sides when both of members of the international association of the art critics. well i hope so. as i mentioned we hit sixty three national chapters around the world that i think we are not particularly well represented in asia i think we have still room for improvement. we have a section here we have the section in hong kong we have a section and in the south korea and japan. in pakistan then the good fish but i think there's more we we don't have a section in china we don't have a section in india. we welcome the proposed ban on how we idea is that this is an association cannot not international association and should include every book ever but the street that the same way because there is
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no set of difference as i mentioned it several times between the us section which is the biggest section and it's a bit but the stunning section which has only seven member. i mean it in now way kind of perspective everybody's kind of equal. so we want to get more members because i think the more members we have been more of we can share the experience and also kind of help each other cities do so. so i think oh it's a gradual process. you know it's that it doesn't come from moscow in the fight. sections to be creative is the sections that are the people who come and say we want to create this section and there is the process have to do it people have to. i've got nowhere in the statutes and regulations and facilities yes yes you are. we need to take the first break on the program will be right back. i am. it is. six season
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steve. check eye. welcome
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back to the second part of today's world and feel that i won all but on the host we're equal. what will continue our conversation without the marae bartlett who's the president off the uk's national association of art critics. laurie who was talking that this issue first visit to taiwan then he gave this a preliminary impressions. also when you have seen on the island specially with reference to the art community here. kabul the overall impression regarding the people. olive defined in the city he said no some of the corporations or institutions they had visited it once your overall impression. but i was sick she asked this morning friday by a journal this problem of taipei. still in doubt. so what does the movie most of the memorable aspect of play visit them this gives a nice it's one of the definite been number one says be
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the warmest of people here in our day. the kind of the warmth that i have received is it. it's incredible and so mom very very you know i'm very grateful to two to two in ot with the above info being such welcoming and so so that's definitely something very special and have an in some way. note the typical in on you know sometimes people create more assistance he added. the debate but the distance almost doesn't exist in this very refreshing and so that's an it goes from the mill complex with students who of very open and eager to discuss things but it goes to the high attendance of members so they have a man called politicians and so on so it's it's something which exists in the lake rose the society it's not just in the upper level cia itself on the phone on different levels. those of its this remarkable way. i cannot stress how oh how remarkable it is in. of the other the steaks i have
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i'd try to see as much as possible interim so what are the kind of institutions to have the kind of hard to stick them in the institution so we've been doing about the visits to museums then stop. the difference if the sand and then it's also an incredible variety of experiences because from the palace museum and will you know which this. i guess he'll national museum where you have the incredible treasures and i was i was in office surprise that an answer to. of the light that is to find out that you know that the version also a few more non these eyes is a beautiful jade to the beach and so is it says it's a beautiful piece and it's kind of mesmerizing go. so now i have to one of these us in my head you know it is wonderful with the baby on top of that one of the old one from europe and democracy itself so that was a remarkable the collection is spectacular it's kind of popped into
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the what's what else can one say it's it's it's just the treasures so. then we went to museums that presents contemporary art on the disco aren't all kinds of posts to humanistic of barak and so on that's very interesting too to see how i wound it contributes to the international scene then what kind of experience you can get here in use in your country. we went to the team a museum in the eye and the swede is still under construction but it's almost getting ready for the innovation i guess next year. that said that's a very very interesting experience in itself going on that's it it has you know it's a it's a collection devoted to western art through which urine. i guess it's unique in this part of the world the center piece was to be able to see ghosts works you know here without having to travel to paris so long to
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know me know or they know will new york it's it's it's it's spectacular and i'm not very much the court to seeing the museum when it opens them our life has such a variety of things and stuffs on the most votes that none of them. and then in this incredible collection of violins which this i mean it's a world class to be on for a prestigious unique and no other collection like this so i must say that oh you know i'm kind of overwhelmed by the steamer night that comes from these kind of experiences and then dinner and then a week visit to some studio so i got the chance to see how what people are doing in austria in a more kind of fun. individualistic way you know in their studios and the us. and then the week is it that there are a musician a hottie musician they know who was cited for us so it's a diet mean it's it's it's sick call spectrum of penises than. and what's wonderful i think what you know you kai winding away insists is very special because us for
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the picking between that this part of the world and that the western way of valuing address those silly no wade says youtube you can see this kind of top two sides of the experience would have enough of the scientist and a very very unique local phone book well whatever where not much just for the region. and then you have posts are a very multi ethnic society and you know multicultural society in which i think it's email for people who come from abroad with pseudo without didn't know each of the aisle on me we can assume that there is no one kutcher when people you know it yet sit this one comes to on people but the with many colors. and that's what constitutes also a bang great aspect of the society of writing that israel has the spectrum off all dairy costs yes yes yes yes and in no way you look at town was called to let you know we just discussed. we of course have the chinese call to harriet it's great that
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the court rightly yours to look at taiwan's history over the years when he'll do in cornelius were illegal colonize but the touch and thereafter by the japanese right and it's really you see some real treats. it's right up the cupertino colonial years from both the dutch and also come to the beach and and and beans that they need help global ice age. and then you also see a lot of the american eel european influences here. and then that given the fact that you have such a meal rich cocoa foundation in taiwan icing interests of art and artistic development. yes this really is a very good inexpensive meal he sent it right now in houston and ella to have more more of the fiji arts and the artistic developments taking place in taiwan which you agree with stitches that are so so the lesson and that's you know i i came here at the invitation of professor tan is from a hike on taiwan's president if i
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cut taiwan to whom i'm very grateful for for this opportunity to speak but um you know i'd get in to. i kind of sense that here the weekends to establish a relationship which will be beneficial to both side and as i keep repeating this week i didn't come here with the innovative bag off offerings to know if i came here to learn and also through to kind of exchange experience and i think that is on the way how we connect to collaborate. it's not so much. in all colonizing in the displays but the other kind of coming up on the basis that we have to speak to each other and learn from each other so in that respect i think it's this that phenomenal place for us to learn about you know the wii. the meaning of cut to the meaning of art center including contemporary art you know very much. he has been talk in the building class talks. in this teenage high tech though we cannot avoid due to wide use of
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social media. the ipl and that this really has had the impact on many people's lives at home many industries and communities. oh what is the impact so far. if there's one on the art no criticism can build community into national has said the company though making things easier to be assimilated. you know to be you know it's spread out and end of making the communication a lot easier. the first of all i have to say hi. i do indeed have made dozens of taiwanese friends on facebook so that more than in any other trip so that means that the social media interactive there that are present here and you know so i probably will have to vent a little bit softer news he's the reason on to the book on the vehicle back now to discuss the social media of course it's him put them in the weeks he held the world has changed because of the presence of social media him and so for us it's it's it's it's one of
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the platforms that you know has said is that as the newly elected president if i came to national actually i promise to think so. one thing that will expand to other associations beyond the existing membership so we can be more visible in the nationally and the other one was to provide our members and the end of the people with whom we interact. the platform for communication which is soo i went to a live site so i think for us it's very important to know we have had to. we are headed our way website this will be ups and so on. in a few weeks into a launching a new websites which will be much more interactive been one of the idea is that one of the programs that we want to own channels to outweigh the websites will be two creates a set of platforms from different critics from different countries to engage in a conversation with the eye with members but not only without remembers them
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and say. maybe you know next year sometime moon by the taiwanese critics to spend that one mom of two for engaging in a conversation with the you know with people from different parts of the world on the meeting off on whatever they do want to to discuss few years at the end so so it will be a very active. i guess form of engaging people both members and non members. you know in a conversation which can lead to. i kissed interesting set of developments in the woods yet and coffee bar art criticism of what is the trend recently named the national. has it become ian gilmore off the exercise of you know intellectual id is in no people exchanging views. or is it becoming something that no more of a derivative of the artwork itself. well i mean there are two issues here or on new shoes kind of more of what could that criticism a should be gone
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and be open and the other issues swap. what kind of the world expects for us and where do we fit into the existing where to go. on the first lead of the baby issue of kind of how we exercise our profession. i think we have the number of challenges. you know i think a contemporary art becomes more and more present in it like so many people and you know. for different reasons including this astronomical prices that we see it on him in the auction houses right so that people are more and more aware of the presence of temper and they don't necessarily kind of engage with company. so our mission as critics i think is to capitalize from that experience for the expos are being produced by you know by dean meet the eye with which reports on the kind of those spectacular defense in and then engage people to ordinary people. tell people that don't necessary have been exposed at
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the contemporary twist on temperate so they can benefit from it i think there is some talk with people you know sometimes the year to engage with contemporary because it seems to be so exclusive so different from their experience of corn in our own section to bring read a close yes the brink because who would be losing the regular people that say from the street in all parts. he came in art criticism became a little bit isolate itself i think we should wear it on the ways to bring back people and some don't discuss with them is very kind of thought honestly you know what contemporary artists about because my idea is that people who don't have to expose it to cancun for our appt and you know sometimes they say i don't understand me. it's it's not that they are eager to take shape our responsibility to contemplate how it is seen as a go and discuss it then and people often when they say i don't buy it. i don't get that because it's who esoteric it's too complicated. they
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have reasons to say because art sometimes goes way too far away from their experience and an eyelid responsibility is to bring been lacking. it's alright you know that she can hold a thought on second point of it because we need to take another break the program will be packing a few minutes the sells. says the other
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the eye. welcome back to today's program fielder kyle while that may host a week will will will continue our conversation without them aren't bartlett who's the president of the international association of art critics. and of mari and my apologies for interrupting you are the way you are talking about the second point. the div regional and national trend of all our christmases but i think it was a good break because either way i want to separate those two dishes the one which is what he does
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off the coast which record what you see in soho. they give us a perfect moment of innocence it taking the ball in the polls. so going back to iowa. the second point is that the us we know would be the media landscape has been changing quite rapidly because of the new kind of stuff. so john knowles rise and also the internet and so on and so on. there is some of the parker this is that this move from off from the printed press for its failures and from gnawing on television and radio two onto the internet is that we want to stay as visible as possible again in the all media. this amount on the unknown being set up the internet kind of presence but also the no on tv that you know radio and in the newspapers and magazines and optus as soon as you know i mean there's space for art that is inspection often shrinks and i think it's it's
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it's spring everywhere. you know in the united states in europa in other parts of the world. there is more and more emphasis on the kind of the current kind of fierce any unknown people are more interested in input to the contrary in knowing. so so we are facing. also at the landmark year because we have to be more presents we will want to stay present in no we don't want to be so upset he then had approval to another. another wrong so the way how we can. i think do it it says basically i think what i'm doing here in no way to be more present more focal to present any meat off of art critics association and art critics and its people engaged in they denied the move was sensitive to the unknown to the concerns of people who sometimes don't know anything about art. and that requires you know kind of visibility so so that so and that's this one think which day which i'm aware of that this entailed that's why i'm traveling so
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much this is my eighteenth eight international trip this year ago. has elected to the edge like a lot. it is soon put to use him aren't we know all you fine all day you wear many hats for all you got to talk to it being our history. yes and then the old school you are you know in addition the art historian and a yule school of color in the park. camille critic and off all these different roles that you play. she is the relevance between the study of art history and now you being that you know the president of the international association of you know the deal are critics it is irrelevant is that you know they complement each other. i think in many ways he is happening nowadays as seen any aspect of life and we do wear many hats to this great idea that it's part of our life it does not deny the old life when some of the state the one job to
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stay put in her claim that he has said that that's that's trinkets and things very quickly i think it is so so in no way. it's it's it's it became a normal situation that one has to do many things you know i think i don't see any kind of file this junction between the you know being an art historian being hard physically being a poet. i think you know it's it's adobe honks to the ramos create the right thing and i think you know poetry was a very strong component of a kind of critical own eden park critical tradition nephi and the stands where lucky been seen in asia more than anywhere else there was no set of traditional western critics this month the ssa as a category that it is is he the kind of developed from up philosophical writings from the religious right thing so sun from poetry is going away you know it's the kind of natural extension. and if you look at the great critic said we had to deposit the unknown but some of them at the dfo he was a critic but he was also feel as if for some of
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the macbook air. he was a great poet and critic so thanks to this kind of fat the phenomenon of critics being a critic and someone else to know and i think it's it's a good thing you know because i wear medium is the right thing and you know that good poets write good poetry and the rise of swelling in a language you know which is kind of invented been so long is and that's another aspect of practices which i think we have to revisit we have to make sure with that we write what you know that we are not to obscure that we are not using too much jargon that we have kind of right thing in beautiful language to know is any measures road where there is a scene tiny sewing official polish throne in any language. so in that respect you know art historical background helps me to get that a brother perspective on the way how i look at contemporary art is a distinction between art history and concrete this is i would say that the critic has this kind of possibility off reacting to what he or
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she sees in knowing galleries museums in a very kind of fluff up call in and the media and fashion. so we we sort of has this possibility to being emotional being reactive being spontaneous. a historian is somebody who complex cornices of puts it in the context of the pastime and you know what to do with that experience it's so but one have the other you know our history so often composed of both critic of right things written by critics and then it becomes art history on the nature of man and then the criticism has to be informed by the castilla to be good for this this this and given the fact that you have mentioned their lead with a lot of people we all wanted people to copy would not get the exposure to our discussion to contemporary art as much as the with the flight right and the especially now the team beat the newspaper reports write all i have is that the auction houses the art
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becomes something very expensive. it's no doubt people would think that it's out of reach. you know i cannot afford the loan to buy a piece of work that i enjoy at the auction houses. and so therefore you look at one of the institutional clear state of play it will be tons of green are closer to the ordinary people died including museums galleries research institutions and other mass appeal once the roll and don't do for steel roll for a couple for art critics are already you know the organization like us to try to bring all these different actors guild players together and in terms of promoting. no art to the ordinary people. but i did i think you know we us would affect the one big family news in all the museums the gallery's the arts is you're a tourist the critics so again i think we are stronger and we went to get there so i see this is
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that he has a very important also. mission for us to make sure that we we do work closely with which the artist and with the curator with the museum directors and the worthless wonderful hear that you know we. i feel i think i won on. the this was kind of love is too many people that you know you can be only as strong as unite the tide in that respect snow so i think about this i said you know we are in a kind of a world that has two sides two of which is very material and one which could be very idealistic and that's where i face for this is you know i've tasted this promo. no farm. ideally still almost like metaphysical certify presence to know that we need to part two we you know it seems that what you said about the auction houses and everything in others the hype about the prices. actually you can buy a very good art for almost nothing else so yes if you if you think about those people you know who was coming from millions of post its. it's impossible to buy
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clothes roles for most of the phone. practically everybody except the few who can afford. but it doesn't mean that what you're buying at the auction house it's necessarily the best things that you can buy. actually you can email go to a studio and art this time. in a kind man and you know find one before it. iowa state judge by your heart you don't judge but he was tonight don't think about how much it costs to know the good bits collections were known done because people was thinking of it sits where you go you must be the right of the day whereby because they loved it and there are case takes to coincide it with you know whatever it happens officer but that's the only way to do it then you know you have to be fed living with their work apart just like living with someone almost you know it's very personal. so if you invite stop somebody to meet with you you want those you know that's where the fight to be part of your life you don't want to pass a nice ending to it there is something very foreign to you to be at your house and so
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that's very important i think to have to have his very personal relationship to art and in terms of his her mat the kind of value as i said that's where critics probably have to have very important role to play. basically to make stew with that we closed it out between you know what what ordinary people kind of feel that belongs to them and what they are told that certain if it's a statistic ideas about it today like so i think we had. the there was no should bring it and bring those things together and explain to people but today as i said in a very kind of direct and honest way you know when i was featured on time last week. and gentlemen if some of the dish he said us simple man. then and he said that but they mean it in a good sense to know new meaning that you can soak about complicated ideas in this simple way. and of course it's a great accompaniment by his escort me to do it you know we want to speak to people we want to
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be to communicate. we don't want to just show off in the midst of corners on a whim me to take the final breakdown of prelim one kg backpack. i knew. and. the us
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eye. welcome back to the final part of the scroll and key on the tile wild look on the hopes we will will will continue and hopefully wrap up this fascinating conversation. what got them are a part of that was the president of the international association of art critics barak with the top will do that by your personal experiences as we stated. you will earn you know trained at the beginning bill has a civil engineer greg hill at columbia university and later on of course you catch a phd in our
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history for the city university of new york and the whiny to make such a dramatic change in the pursue of the korean yell from being a junior high and all the way to the unit you are craving a look at this so why would say eu no less than a hundred eighty degree turn for help it's this no problem on the wii. but i was so is interested in art and as a child i was kind of this one of his gifts to children who you know which all endeavors of the levi is now a beautiful utah and sound then there comes a moment in your life when you tried to be rational in knowing your family kind of is he in them the other team played around it. i know you have to have for the future. it is so so that's what's that going studying civil engineering action was part of my set of rational self you know with the help of the family who said this way we can make you go you will be safe well i have to fill you in on it
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goes because it's all been on a gun but the moment in my life when things change because this explains why you know why entrenched. so i o is in the eye with this abridged engineer for the company and wall street than that. i was going everyday torah can now doing all kinds of design preached assignment that we expect that all the bridges in new york brooklyn bridge would inspect it and so on. and then i was switching the sentry guns and art critic for polish american newspaper the new york could and i was sent to paris to interview a painter and cool when i'm making you is in his early nineties. and i was just turning thirty. and there is so key us fee of one point i will tell us that though it happens that in today's my birthday and you know i'm turning thirty and i expected that she would say oh you are very young q you can do whatever you want to welcome and ninety three year old man. webcke said the inn i said i'm feeling old and he said you have full rights to
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feel old. then i said i couldn't them. what does it mean you know you all come north gold. it was he sets you up to the polls because this is the time in your life when you should choose whatever you want to do in your pocket. and so i went back to new york i kind of re make of it yet is and then six months they terrify i quit my job duties and i went back to school with shelby tell you family before and it needed to elevate a kind of detail thirty year old can subdue a beverage and on one lot more independent in that way so so i went back to school you know cause stop by every first everything in my life because then i was making as much money as you know this this this pretension europe but i have to say i die. it was probably one of the wisest advice is that i got in my life and i'm so they liked it so. thought you know to be in our tree because his story and i think it's a great opportunity to discover the world i would never be the improv is to pretend opinion on the it's
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this as art critic and ten and it creates for the army that it still gave me a lifetime opportunity to two two x to make a difference too because it's not only about the traveling and i'd like to trouble but but also to to look at something as millicent is you know i'm not sick of this devotion about the importance of the art critic but i think we can do enough of things and if you find your place in life when you can kind of tribute to tell from your field. dennis wonderful than you know i of course the engineers they contribute on their field and they are wonderful. i happened to be in austria for this post to do something else and um i think i found by munching kind of bonus of professional if you wish to own vocation whatever it is his head and i would suppose that you are training as you know this is simply engineer will also help in terms of you becoming ill. now the president of the international association but also in terms of deal
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making like what you said that in making your milk reduces it very clear very precise and easy for people to understand. you know because just two hour interview process. today i can see they your responses very well thought out they are well organized and that is something beyond probably you know what to attribute that to you or engineering training. it is true yet for i dunno it's very difficult for me to touch i tried to be as logical as possible because i said is the only way we can communicate it and i want to communicate with ever but then i think o s the station has the same goal this up because he also in on the very kind of basic road map the clip but you know i get invitations to teach at mit for example. also because of the big rock in the mit it's that saves taking on school again so i pitched the best of visiting professor write teach that the architecture school light to dark isn't a piece of architecture and history
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of art and could assist so i'm in kind of syrup multidisciplinary is that even though i teach at cooper union which is also a small college in new york. their experimental you know very very import time to learn. we have from the state department's engineering architecture and art studio and so some of my students and seniors some of them are keepsakes. and i think it's good for them to seeing it yet as you know you can be so science oriented the book you can also develop the artistic side then be to connect to coexist in a beautiful way on main and greet him and given the fact that feeling you were trained as an engineer and now you have seen the president of the taxi association. what will be some of the politics you and he'll tell the younger generations if they are thinking the following your footsteps annie in the future becoming ill and the park created this helps. well i think you know for safari you you follow
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your passions so you know you view your photo if you if you feel that that's what you would like to do it you would like to write about art and just write about are ok. it's also good that you kind of snow i think of going back to school and getting my degree you know phd in art history in them. it sort of ground it's me in the know is that now like to read ideal. so you know i've kissed it could assist all its history its not the only stood up looking and saying i didn't like it i don't like it. describing its kindle having debates it's actually very important because it gives you perspective on on on on the how to milk minnow and better than them. and so so i think no it is very important passion is staid the beginning you know you have to call dr devious and then the ew ew ew ew create a framework for you all for your passions no it's not the only passion but this also. hopefully intelligent way of communicating and and and i think was what we need
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from critics nowadays when youths this ice etc from the sincerity in no way that we shouldn't exist on our own that we should be aware that we have commissioned which is very specific can still communicate school ever but that is in no ten and that's that's probably what. young people have to understand that could assist it's not something which will put been in touch with the you know you aren't system few other critics and maybe some academics have the responsibility sweetie to reach out to have her about the unknown and an answer to be informed of the other the same time be accessible and oh we know them arctic its value korea. he wears many hats play different roles the deal you are pulling you are the story and art critic and value it the head of the shoot me shoot into national association. art critics. and though which world team joined the deal to most and
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why. and a t shirt with this some thought into what i think i enjoy it. the little professor by the sufis. i enjoyed all of them right now i committed myself to be the email was selected fifth president. it's an honor to this possibility. so on the fortunate though fortunate to have to push other states will be decided in the eyes don't write poetry but i don't have that much time to really stay with the cotton so it's up. i hope you know in the future my position as soon as the myth that kind of time span. you can be president on the photo terms it means the six years telco which i think it's it's a very good attendance policy because this way. six years so three years than three years. if you get reelected just enough time to to heat the legacy both on the other hand you have to keep room for other people to continue so when i finished oregano i think i want to write my poetry i want to go back
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maybe to teaching and spending will this point i'm interacting with students and stuff. and third i would like to write fiction to hm write the vision both of you know it's so funny until it heals up for a lot of people would think that the artist and art critic. i need to have the inspiration to keep yourself a meal going. i know you travel quite a bit in my hubby's need a lot when you travel in games with the mostly due to feel the inspiration from an indian. the fall meeting people from going places. for me aware of from everywhere i think of giving is finishing the afl after talking to you live with that said the visit i know it's a very unique moment that is all added up to it will translate into something else. i think that's that's how we experience life you know it's that it's not. the i mean there are moments which are very special but what constitutes kind of did you feel like it's kind of transforming an unknown the ordinary moments in the special moments over. i
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think i'd learn a lot from them people are basically this thing and aunts who are to start the night when i get my electric up the days ago i stressed in ohio. you mean a thing of these sachets who ended it with garth is to know and i have to say because sometimes people say you aren't this can be an event that kind of has this artificial kind of phenomenon celebrities and so on. i must say that you know they do really kind of good artist and also recover not recognized internationally that i have pretty cool quite a privilege to know an awful extremely exceptional beings in all very intelligent very creative very sensitive skin on sensible and so on so. so when people talk about our contemporary being something you know kind of fun in slate that then maybe kind of hike in another high price to know him know that the new rio are if you know and it can be on the senator's to level it can be on the very kind of portland a memento. that is
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done by the exceptional beings that we have to listen to that is. mari is truly been an honor to happen. he of the probe into the s a special guest and a you are being very kind it because actually it starts including myself have learned quite a bit foreign policies today oh i wish you all the best in your personal and professional endeavors seem to feature the whole fleet to see you come back to taiwan in the not too distant future thank you very much think you're a man i am am very delighted to be here i hope that we will be back not only me but now as a station of the critics that we will and kate in further discussions say here and elsewhere in all of the hit i do i think is the link is below thank you for watching the pro that today i'll see you next time all night. in the name. i
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