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the former case as it claims to have liberated has exploded in eastern town the flashpoint city of slum yes. this show cancels a negotiation session after a palestinian unity deal that works for hamas and fatah the same authority. the first time in years. preston showed that the picture is from mr stopped shy of an apology many nights anniversary of the armenian cats. ll. jen says it has taken control of a town near the flashpoint city of some yawns were pro russian separatists are in control of many installations no independent confirmation

comes up after the announcement of renewed anti terror campaign against separatists in the east of the country. he thought that it held town of krabi and his crew russian minute and think that preparing for an imminent ukrainian attack the hero looks like it was retiring from iowa to round off the day it was different people here is very close to remedy long and it is less intense during the daytime show that knowing something will happen sooner or later the board. keith m and i joked to the power and tortured forty thirteen and one and two politicians were found near the town. the fee increase to dominate the new site on wednesday. he has to stay awake and holding the wheel back on to him that not many unfinished ny. he has to declare a fresh offensive to force them to

separate us. these crimes are being carried out for the full support of indulgence of the russian federation. i caught on security agencies to relaunch effective anti measures russian attack on wednesday foreign minister thanking them from press and on but any nation in question transport act. the eu has called on most days due to that great and the killing and kidnapping in eastern ukraine. going away he said if the parent is pressuring faith doesn't directly control the separatists light rain coming to the ministry crackdown in country and our key and can restore it so far seen the east. it tends to push county on recount week ended in mediation in ukrainian soldiers were forced into retreat. i'm canadian. let's go to moscow where the government says they can't pull its troops back from the east of ukraine from the border and join a correspondent joshua a young

pup. josh will be islam strong talk coming out of the foreign ministry this wednesday. that's right it seems like the two sides russia and the last decade as well haven't really gotten any closer at all since those negotiations are produced in the newly minted outcome in geneva last week since then both sides claim the other is not implementing the deal reduce heat. government buildings in kiev still surrounded by mind on protesters and we see government administrative buildings in eastern ukraine occupied by these pro russian separatist militias and now you have a pro. raising the temperature even to a higher degree if that's even possible at this point but saying something that does seem to be new the more strident in russian policy saying that any attack against the system to be in an attack on russia itself

some think pushing russia that much closer to its perhaps sending in troops to eastern ukraine. white's condition just as this piece you are now looking at images of us troops arriving in poland and i know that moscow sees this very much within the prism of russia vs nato that's right i'm really for months now since the beginning of the year of my dime protests early last year but even those stretching back two years before that. fate of ukraine its geo political orientation would be drawing closer to europe which isn't actually closer to its historical patron. russia that contest has been seen in moscow as a kind of proxy war for influence a proxy battle for include across the whole of the former soviet union across what russia thinks of as its near abroad. its area

of arizona influence in the former soviet states so for russia ukraine has always been about not just the territory of ukraine itself in the gop orientation of the government in kiev but it's been a bellwether for relations with the west for russia's positioning with the less it sees the fate of ukraine is not just about the fate of one concrete country but really its entire geopolitical position in the post soviet world. having ukraine in his corner has been something of central importance for more than a decade now. toss the awful many thanks for joining us there from moscow. it's short of a formal apology this statement released by turkey's prime minister nonetheless being described as unprecedented condolences they come on the eve of the ninety ninth anniversary of the mass slaughter of armenians are mins during world war one. lifted from turning on the offensive end

in nineteen fifteen and diplomatically sensitive armenia and armenians wild winds and depth of one point three million people in terms of fortune and turkish troops with genocide turkey categorically reject attempts to wednesday to meet with the tree was yet to come into his prime minister the insistence of the first world war i or champagne. we wish that the armenians who lost their minds in the context of the early twentieth century. rest in peace. then we can bail condolences to their grandchildren. the statement comes the day before the nine to nine hundred and three. if not the beginning. in fourteen attempts to mend relations between the historical rivals. going forward and putting in nineteen ninety three the recognition that armenia wants to do and played the neck down. singleton and fifty to one ethnic backgrounds took place during

the periods. he was the last historians to wean me off trying to examine the case again the project in wyoming and we said to the fact unknown to eat it. she has complicated and charisma nation's land. we tend to react in theory if the wind to make it a crime that is to recognize giving and generous night. the meaning and it is a step always been a fall far short of an apology. rocca was kicked off an eight day tour of asia the us president's mind by ambassador caroline kennedy sitting down to sushi in a three star restaurant with japan's nationalist prime minister shinzo on it. there will of course be an elaborate state conquest but toronto. i opened it to turn it is that by sharing a meal with japanese prime minister seemed to be celebrated with tiny sushi restaurant intimate and informal security for costs appeal were told to be cheeky the partnership. multi

nation free trade deal would bring together a dozen countries responsible for forty percent of global trade new authentic earned the two largest economies in the ttp and negotiations between them being particularly sticky. to learn is attempting to get the protections in certain sectors the prospect of a polish parents is especially worrying carmakers and farmers. it may not affect the business in a jiffy but it was granted in fact thomas you're in a weak position and role and that cpp would accelerate the speed of decline. the plan is to come visit comes as the country is in a territorial dispute with china alone for a group of small but strategically located on itunes the currently under japanese control and obama has reassured tokyo that the islands are covered by the us japan mutual security treaty. three china discounts we hopped into the us should respect facts. take a

responsible attitude and fulfill its commitment to not take sides and issues related to the center of sovereignty with china ever rising the us has the difficult balancing act. it's going to ensure japan and other asian allies that the which ones to ninety two with china. it won't turn away from them. as always when city clean up after violence enough of the onion rio's copacabana beach. it was triggered by the death of a local dancer protesters accused police of beating him to death the sting in brazil the president but welcoming delegates to a conference over governance of the internet no country should weigh more than others when it comes in and said don't lose sight of the two day summit whose stated aim of the week of the nsa eavesdropping scandal is to challenge us supremacy on internet governance the kickoff of matt and our recess nonetheless welcoming washington's decision to accept a review of the status

of ike and the us might be spotty. the grants new meaning since its protocols for when you see. they'll be more news later. it's time now for the false forget today eye. tall. for french journalists freed last week an incident confirmed that some of their captors were french speakers the government of france speaks of hundreds of french nationals essentially in syria. more and more year young. some even female pro is as close as a valid passport and a low cost flight to turkey. this wednesday france's interior minister spelling out and support the recruitment of homegrown has been dark and

indoctrinated in their bedroom over the way of the new interior minister wants what he calls its either put rollers in the europe wide plan to block content over the internet and social media isn't feasible how serious is the threat our friends and neighbors respond. today in the forest and get to be looking at the homegrown this year in france in europe where those whose gilman daily co founder of the cause of darkness are thank you for being this again thanks to nicholas middle of the reuters news agency is working on this problem as well as the ones who teaches at the sorbonne is the author of islamophobia in the modern world thank you for joining us. joining us from london. here is co founder of the active change foundation into charging treated to prevent encountered violent extremists and thanks for being with us. we also wanna thank god for moms and the da for joining us. he's director of research at the henry jackson society nice to see you again the false been

credited with you to join the conversation on facebook and twitter are hushed and two for today. the full announcement coming out of the key weekly cabinet meeting this wednesday. toll free number for families who suspect their loved ones are getting indoctrinated support mechanisms for those families and plans for the cyber patrol week four of the way it's all part of the plans are intense brown cheese for homegrown is. hunting down on french year has gone to join the. the french government unveiled a plan to stop its citizens from participating in the civil war and syria. the goal is to keep french muslims from becoming radicalized the fourth. the drop would benefit from the seventies a plethora of nations to make sure that our country just like saudi arabia did. he has

done everything attempt to dissuade to prevent and punish those who attempted to find some areas but they do not see them all up now we know what a mess around seven hundred french people have either indirectly or directly been involved in the syrian conflict. many of them are teenagers. the new lucia was said to them that the team so that we are going to release information on the interior ministry website. from an ec feel that kids are growing estranged from them the government's plan contains twenty measures among them the possibility of revoking french citizenship acquiring parental consent to leave the country the possibility of facing criminal charges in france. a hotline for parents will also be established to increase surveillance of social media websites. the defendant to do with the plan of action that came as welcoming news for this father son joined the fight and syria earlier this year. the delay

the number. this is great news and i went up to wednesday when all going to fans of us policies that do not require new legislation could go into effect in the coming gates. we do today and consume. we think these measures. i think it's due to green issues and we can we do we expect that it can help so the summit is to find some solutions. these kind of movement the measures we heard that some other parents there criticizing saying it didn't go far enough. most notably that likes to roll back of the listing of parental guidance pitch for underage people to leave the country and an underage people can leave the country without parental guidance. i think that we have to change this. these. really cheap but

there was a point which is important. i seem to be proven to be the inconsistency services helped local was one of. most important countries india and in the region which is sticky. we know that the extended into turkish authorities. against their region and the sovereignty and the weekend honesty i was six. one of the ox. and indeed even the people are going to win the serie a and point to the agreement epa we knew it was over and was talking about. i recently discovered uranium. we know that there is of this country is one of the community involved in this kind of cruel and indifferent to the office staff were present but i can wait. there is a diplomat school auction which is the only important that i didn't emergency services housework. two guys

are always a tricky. it is he didn't touch her to the um country which does not require visas because of strong encourage tourism. um that you agree with the audience and the turkeys not doing enough to filter those young candidates to from going yes the shirt eritrea i was going on. very little to stop. the european scene. candidates should she had to cross into syria. and that's why as of today. this is the biggest eater of for europeans and how important it is for. i didn't deal with you to tell the turkish authorities that they should try to cut down on people crossing because obviously when you see a european man

or a family coming. through a border crossing. to go into syria. it is an ongoing vacation or so. it is true that turkey it folds up some of the key is to it to the kingdom and in this regard it the problem is that the people and with abbas the plane load of turns sitting in places like east envoy. they beat me to make their way to the border later sure i needed to go solo by bus the effect of the matter is that turkey needs to get more active. as european as dense as mentioned. it's not in their interest. for europeans not to go in because they want to fight off the sand regime and anything is good for them. as far as getting manpower to get into syria and joined

this group that i was struck and i is now in order to fight the sand. human. just to teach the christian union oh so cool especially the younger opponent is up and down all the dental professional site is undone on professional spies soul even if the typical two of them could handle them in the movie the airports. when they come. during the morning that caused the cds they always go to the same details which means that the local police who dumped. folks can pick up ninety percent of them. it's very easy. they don't just go off the plane engine and cross the border and abc brief each of the ending of this in context with existing buses all. so that has spawned a view to he can do a lot. and and and and

to all fathers and the plight of the families we choose one's interest. should be one of the summit of the government is a problem from these guys coming back cross often. becoming cleus of groups that could be dangeus i t furend some examples in the past. it is investigating magistrates you're impressed not trade it says what we're witnessing now is the second we first left the summer of two thousand to twelve. now they're getting their friends to come in the two teamed up with the agreement of an emu yes there is a problem. i want to mention that it's not a new problem was a problem in the nineties with people connect rome from yugoslavia when to fight against india and the windfall gains semi criminal semi political actions in the nineties. that was the case that everyone knows. so that there's a

reason the dangerous potential. when these guys come back. they become think we've become the problem is and the food the likud go into town this time activity which will culminate in environments the spinnaker this is one of these points of bonuses over the last couple of days we've seen so many of his accounts of family members who were genuinely surprised to discover the upland suddenly popping up in syria. sure i mean when you read the various accounts of parents to discover that their children have become totally radicalized on the internet on by themselves i think we have the image of somebody going to mosque and being taken in by a charismatic a mom and in fact that it's not the way that it's happening for for a lot of these children. um a lot of that is happening in isolation from any kind of

muslim community of people in the field totally white french countryside are becoming radicalized by looking at videos on the internet. umm been sold the way the response has to be adapted to that because that the scale of the problems change. um in the way these ideas are circulating has changed radically in the past four or five years. and which is why we're seeing a lot more to departure just one point one to make it into turkey question of whether turkey's interests his own fighting against. it's because it's an ongoing war with with kurdish fighters and on islamists brigades in inside syria. our flight every day and stood against the current snow and ice in a sense of these french or belgian or british volunteers are free soldiers for a proxy soldiers for the turkish state. and i

think we need to keep that in mind is not just that they want to topple the assad regime it's at this very handy to have them. when you can stay home. curtis separates the separatists well. it's a new means of finding out about it. joining these movements and no longer the traditional way inside the mosque as good as you say um and and new profiles have the skies here is the same about where you are a hearing here. younger and younger more and more under age people going over and also women as well. i should say girls are under eighteen side she has two parts. it was a white tunic from coast to get up and after your door to the suburbs of mention this as well. it was so much interest on the question what needs to be on this. what is actually from sticking to its national interests in the new measures are being put in place i think. the more

reactionary than being proactive. it really rocked this country pissed off about three years ago. from sa's interest in syria in the middle of the regions with all of us would have the foresight to estimate on two seperate the outcome of what's going on now. and by far the government and the two bogeys. big ups and sit in traffic a little more to go in goal. a greater challenge ahead of us. i don't think these new measures in place of the men go far enough to justify nothing to say. it's been done with community they think. anything to stop this kind of phenomena from a generator into it for the whole thing nice to be tune into that. no saw the shooting. the younger people getting in holden. to say that. in comparison to afghanistan and iraq syria is off the scale it is. i mean

what what is coming our way of think we all need to prepare our souls the foresight to deliver proactive initiatives that address this phenomenon going for it to be a mom of young girls are getting involved and no internet bar from become a tool for much recruitment for young people but still. one of our young people men and women in construction and in europe still being is still popping it in communities and watch them. institutions to not just limited to the internet however i do agree with without the internet is by far the biggest recruitment tool. oh well we didn't practice. i think that's what needs to be honest the twenty fifth of the votes of those french government measures of most notably of this hotline that's being set up this can be difficult ready for a family to pick up the phone and call ups of all

the government. truly wonder what i'll tell you from experience. anything that's going to go with that little one. i'm surprised at how the community that initiative that will look after the ownership of the probe into the community. i won't say no i won't. although francais. become a dutiful unfortunate intelligence services. do the trick not nice to be handed in in regards to address the problem within our communities hosted a community that initiative. in comparison to take ownership of the album me to miss tang the problem in itself. if all the topic of the former medical call to somebody they don't even know or don't even trust. so back somewhat. mm so blessed. i'm a bit too late. i was. dennis and you agree that it's not work

cutesy with what's happened to them the keys of course we have a different moment in the uk. organized by communities in the french society and their durian differences. do you remember when did the time off to iran when the occasionally if it right i went to malaysia always taken off. we didn't have internet and we mentioned that before that today we did the chicken house like a can of soda from the condition we don't need to pull through communities that's good or ill and pacific tea co to school today to treat right to an old always going to. to go to syria they are outside the majority of decent people to cycle to the commute is so dense i think one of the dead to me. the difference and different routines is different we are not organized us as the us commission was for sure we have to try to reprise.

people who were engaged detroit two to two of that era to disclose against these kind of fell off of the movement that the conditions it's it's it's really not intended to invest in the real difference on the news that the young woman doesn't mention to his movement like it. people from the extreme. extreme mysticism is in the sixties it's the real difference is always the internet free of all kinds of next weeks and it's easier because you can delete it by yourself you tend to mention before flying to turkey and india thousand and eight all connections are not connected to such a close here which then begs the segment which will pick up only come back which is edited and patrol the internets stay with us are watching the forest and

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welcome back are welcome if you're just joining us this is the most contented they were talking about how to handle homegrown list of the french government estimates that there are some seven hundred and forty of them we can break down the numbers for you a little bit later on. a homegrown is so which were discussed at the cabinet meeting this wednesday with new measures include cyber patrol or is the europe wide plan to get in touch with internet access providers and social media and the host calls to none too soon says the distressed mother of a boy she's now in contact with me via text message. lucky number is what i want it to me here to find it if you see me again it will be in heaven coughlan we need to control these costs would handle these videos and pics with their

weapons and aid attendant and rest. the club. they need to control facebook she says would sail into jane's cream man in charge for media watch segment because of james on the score of the self radicalization as it were and what would become our equality its brief moment something when he asked me to watch most were over the last number of months that is a bit if you go back to july of last year of two back to dewsbury these brothers and you can see video here. in the video a threat to them as they addressed a message to call swallowing telling him to convert to islam. to this sort of them to ignore his american and jewish friends etc and in a video at the time that the use of this he no longer available on into on the internet you can even see them as sending a postcard to their grandmother they were french born the north. links to syria and they were radicalized on the internet and on top of the open pubic and it was all about the authority trouble there. another story that

reached a price twenty four vertical speed was a story to the covert couple of months ago. at one of our journalists here. a friend of her is actually a shithole this on facebook at once to syria to wage holy war now she entered into a communication with them over several weeks and mom stopped story and the ash on its books to listen in and didn't eat again. it seems that his ideas into his radicalization that took place very much my mind wasn't in it hits me like this for three dimensional life. in the paris area was also the story recently of two and two teenagers french teenagers fifteen and sixteen years of age also prompted to use that area. that's right two with their father's credit card actually traveled as far as syria before returning to the baby came to solutions and then returned but they did spend twenty one days they're showing the extent to which this is a phenomenon that is very real in a teenager's head recruited via the internet

and then making the decision to trouble. sometimes our house with about ten thousand residents to be our world but not instance of the shorter your naked eye and angel together thirteen thirty three years old respectively. some in the postcard their grandmother they had no warnings that the world to me were radicalized online. of course it's not just to add a fringe phenomenon. there is also that the predicted three british extremists to as its headline on my stuff comes as the old social media and indeed this is an ongoing thing is worth exploring because there is a far greater visibility nowadays all this phenomenon that people are sharing on social media at this weekend's visit to the dutch jihadist is another example who had that i belong where he frequents the charge that his at his travails. in syria the forests of tuesday's all online so i think the phenomenon has accused visited the scene because these people are communicating via social media which also is something to be taken into account. are

we in for an exaggeration that the dup yet the important moment because the consul to create such a great visibility. the cops at keeping in mind i just finished false lot with that the fact that even if the syrian that regime that the presidency the chair of a sudden is what our brief much presence on social media on instant mom. i think the presidency will commence on the kinds that back in july of last year and it needs to but it puts a positive image for he can see here on the tv may lead to the juxtaposed images of propaganda will on its ground with that the reality of the images appearing elsewhere online so good it's also smart taking into account espouse that said it's a tool of propaganda whatever we want these tight jeans with many many thanks for that. let's at this point reintroduce our panel and say hello to them once again gill net daily. of cause and adopt a foreign city as well to

consume teaches that the soul beyond the author of islamophobia in the modern world. wilson nicholas been a core of the reuters news agency confirmed once in a honey dear co founder of the active to change foundation a charity created to prevent encounter of violent extremists and also from us in the d g dunn director of research at the henry jackson society of the diminutive of me bouncing off of all of this the french government's announcement that it's going to put what he calls his new terms of the interior minister's cyber patrol it's on the on the task as i can work um probably not this it's a first step of you see what they have to be of good is a counter narrative. as much as possible show how i'd say it is a very violent group of l a even go and show graphic images to relieve you

of that. discourse or two of the jet is you. which is still there are an antique wooden go to syria and save our. of the muslim brothers the need to be very strong ai as far as what needs to be done. but at the same time the websites i go to prop up old older than me so i don't think it's feasible to think that you can decide about throwing. what has worked reasonably well in the past it is when they had the people and to treat some of the jackets forum. and try a little by little to influence people by getting closer to them the debts owed something that needs to be done in the long run rather than to just stop. for a few months. i needed you can you build a counter narrative over the internet. for these young people are going to isolate themselves in their

bedroom and it is reversing itself and auction it. a sliding scale. a sliding scale. not to fall. you don't want to and you'll find another nod to the state capital market. so it will look for a short period but enough to keep on coming up with tom and i to teach i will not be coming up so much not really. for example with what i would say if the church is not your problem. before one particular issue. the lessons of the last part of the note that most right now. he calls one from another web site pops up so you can read forever. the conductors is often away. i will. i won't disagree with the judgment slightly. we're reducing the need to wear. individuals to a degree that will go far enough but it will certainly help secure services to

the gym and women from traveling abroad. so where to look at it differently. when you talk about. committed to these young men and women walk in these communities. so you with fourteen which is about engaging with our communities is essentially essential to tackle this problem. without diminishing judgment. i'm afraid. we ordered the dress a quarter of a problem. mohammed. just don't want to mention the fact that the tomb and tuesday the french. once you re on the seventy two eighteen and came back recently. um are we the people the ice bbq so we interviewed to judge could take a few weeks ago. any estimates that forty three the french who grows to syria

about a hundred. that would like to go that thinks it's a good idea to go that feels that those who go on heroes but they don't because they are too afraid because of the time money because it was the one causing the smell the sweat soaked with the anemia is with him. a much larger number of people and i seems that there was no reason why we have heard stories for instance of young people going. call the one we called his dad to say he was homesick and lonely and wanted to come. yes because in beating away. anyway it's it's it's a phenomenon off licence. we know. we don't do the bulk of the rings the winner was going on. how many parents of four to discover that their dad the teen aged sons and daughters are using drugs or i have an abominable friends

or having boy girl friends for six months of him and his name teenagers have the secret life. technology makes the secret life even easier than before. and then today it was a baby sometimes they commit suicide in the typical typical reaction is. we didn't see anything he was a wonderful boy or girl three months ago. everything went went alright. anyway it's it's it's it's it's a teenage of phenomena the new adult hundred percent. but when i'm trying to say is that we don't have. only a problem with that one should do next and probably everyone has the names and there will be picked up when they go they come back and they will get treated. anyway went on to what happens with the high end cars. it didn't go away but in the minds of the difficult way. five or ten thousand he said the biggest adjustment i'd say no to conduct committee

said that for everyone who goes to syria and is about a hundred that wants to go but don't don't. eddie and seemed to agree that its editors and critics financial proportion i don't agree with you we have to see a deer and it is the richest people who don't know. go to syria and even as you mentioned before. there are some people when they're just asking to put down today because they know that's east of the realities of the people even from syria. i know some new people trying to live to blog about. i think it is interesting is why did go to syria because of two outlets to defrost you can. the feeling of islamophobia there's a lot of pto in the word. there is some interesting was the only tv. pacific union china and the monuments and tougher to why syria. there is a kind of fascination. created by these groups and there is some

netflix is tearing up. and indeed they have to be said extended its lead people to live to boast of it i don't think that is a huge dinner when the blossoms of the majority of people as you mentioned at all. like the secret life the ones who to have some doubt to the tv you can open and interested i can and do the dance steps so that nothing that says nothing important to him. a cynical when you compare with the surrounding countries this is a very french. this didn't come out of a cabinet meeting he renounced the hotline. cyber controllers the edges of the measures to be summer has been put in place by prefects this is the superintendent the various regions well i think it's french in the sense that it's very top down and it's directed by the statements with two people expect expected to stay to choose from including the citizens. absolutely we interviewed the mother of two

men dead and diana's brother work were killed in syria and to know she had a clear expectation that they will pick up the phone and speak to police or speak to an expert within the government who can who can help brandon fact that she did so when i hear people say you know old in nobody's ever been called on the government has frequently called police on their own children that they think are turning into a it's um it's a last resort but they do it on. is it the first is it isn't very french. absolutely and and um was also particularly french is how long it's taken for these measures to be put into place of deep orange concert going on for three years we've known about the large numbers of europeans going for over a year in germany in the uk. de radicalization you know in the community has husband has been put in place for her through various methods of them. and in

france. there's been any hesitation. only we know that medical files and prime ministers had these plans on his desk for many months of this is. this is not as spontaneous reaction to return and as it is a lot of screen of those four french hostages and uses energy and they were lighting was. it was a of that probably was part of it. it was a positive moments at which to unveil this than politically and i think they decided to do it right then um but there has been a debate raging within the government up i swear that this is even a good idea because of what people like to describe the people who can lead to serious victims people can manipulate it in a lot of cases that's true somebody was fifteen years old. you may not have the judgment and d we should have strict measures. to make sure their parents know what they're doing. but in other cases their own fully responsible for what they do

and who pointed to the security services. it's best to know who's leaving him to let them go. we know that these people left the country of already listed um as as people to watch and not by the french interior ministry and didn't want to go with with. you know um which regards so. that's the sort of tricky to balance that you have to tell you if to strike between home therapy help of bringing people back into the fold and also identify which people are not to come back into full and has no interest in re engaging with the community because the entire community is suspect. of these is at odds with a certain version of islam does not know but you know you and mom said it and did the entire french muslim community detention by the state is rejected by a third is um so he can engage

the community but the community already preaches against two items so um it's it's very it's very difficult no tricky tricky problem to the attack zazen is the one that eats into these young people when they come home. they're going to be detained interrogated and entice them home and you get them to come. literally it's going to be truthful with the first one will be when he realizes that got away over the heads of going into a country that in all know. fighting a fire that they don't know or even understanding being put in a situation with groups such as isi now. and that even on the usa's up the two trees for them. what they will leave u with eyes of a problem. we pushed them to come back in you know

the reaction of some youngsters to say oh i miss my home in the comfort of your up is going to come back to it quickly. dh and i have to is that. the measure one of them is the stripping of the citizenship that can be done only if they are dual citizens because otherwise they cannot be without a passport. so i don't think they said this would work but i think it's just one of the showing how the bad things are i mean especially used to be a dual grade still when french citizens. coming into us into syria. their approach to disease in august which is for the hostages forces rather than being a trusted with much larger responsibilities. the deer

fur of british few hobbies is it the same experience. look up to wish a wish. coleman issues and it's no different it crosses under. it's the same issue the week. we face an experience he knows well. of like the same consider a number of different practices. let talk about connecting to the us election giving parents the option to call. mickey situations. parents can access. talk about that and then all their work the launch at all. the courts young men and women going over there in the trials and i were to say that. i agree with that with the point where the judges for every young mum to buy every new moment of june not sure which all you know about that

number will be attracted to go to syria. emotionally young men and women in our communities with a wooden cross with a win to reach the cinema. the young people young people across the world so i'm a very emotional very sympathetic towards the suffering of innocent women and children in certain zones. so the control of a truck that about. because of their emotions also supported by philip soul. were they going to syria. in the face of dr and they come back. to consider a number of things the duck shocking number of other young men and women to build a moment to that of the great roman times the village was twenty five soldiers trained soldiers are coming back we need counseling because of the troubles of their experience. so we are to become a member of the bus picks him. during the day to all levels of government situations. the procedure

should mourn for all americans. everyone has to come together to address this problem. if we don't come together. this is pretty much going to be getting a lot worse and. on friday we go to the framing our young men and women also be undermining our own national interests. as the nickel iron are needed and neighboring states doing any better team. it's happening it's difficult to measure results and that's partly the problem of them are spinning group in germany called exit to use the whole scheme as neo nazis re integrate normal society and they apparently um have a fairly good success rate paid by paypal to like sixty percent of the people who come into other lead normal lives again on their feet and similar efforts in britain um the one real expert i've spoken to says. the fact is that none of these measures are totally effective. um

and it has to do with a very particular mindset of people who actually two when and in syria. the idea is that um you reject all of all of western society reject all the values you reject everything that it proposes and therefore not really a candidate for being soo brought back. you'll want to come back on a lot of people don't want to come back home and to assume that there is that they're interesting things for example in saudi arabia worth your time on the frontline of this issue they have centers where they help young man of the day teach them a more moderate version of islam and ideas that you've been sold to the um dvd of the tv and a form of islam are working to give you the real real deal again. um these people being supposedly helps them up back into normal society but of what is it that some youtube or inoculated already a

chance that they're really identify with moderate form of islam as faulty. and as a lie. and the only real form of islam this is of the steel rods that it's very difficult to see her fight fire with fire here. it is an amazing we were mentioning earlier in the queue was sitting quite eloquently. it's teenage becoming a lot of instances can the family get through to these young people perhaps in a way where government and programs can. i think that's the age of imports in two thousand and two to try to understand how would this coming weekend and be involved in the south the two fight to the di stefano. this week. this is that she have to change. and even details for you to use that energy out. on the cross we have the keys are for humans. four years old winston studio is the young

baby and baby corn syrup and that we are really going to do to save the cats. seasonal tomorrow. this is not the this is just like in this case. valentino and ed did using the term gender up in this case in helping dim and distant. the city the moment we have to clean the kitchen decided that what they are committed this crime scene in syria and even disagree more we have to. in the interview conducted to determine school action. we have to try to help even this year and a different position on political parties in serie of the opposition thousand to three to two one b of the insincere because it's the eighth seeded it's a problem. for all of the region of the disease. so i think that this is the two

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