08/29/16 08/29/16 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from pacifica, this is democracy now! >> for that we say of the impeachment is confirmed without proof of culpability, and will be a coup d'etat. amy: suspended brazilian president dilma rousseff takes the stand today to defend herself in an impeachment trial that's expected to lead to her ouster. lawmakers voted to suspend rousseff in may in what many consider a coup by her right-wing opponents. we will go to rio de janeiro to speak with pulitzer prize winning journalist glenn greenwald. >> people have started to realize that although this

impeachment process has been sold, pitched as a way of punishing corruption, it is a empoweringond goldman sachs and foreign hedge funds, the real goal is to protect corruption. amy: we will also speak to glenn greenwald about the presidential race here in the united states. >> very easy to talk about close toump being dictators or being dangerous, but there has been a huge amount of hillary clinton's record that is on immense amounts of violence in the world the democrats and progressives are steadfastly ignoring. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. in yemen, a suicide car bomb explosion killed at least 50 members of a pro-government

militia earlier today. a witness said the attacker drove his vehicle into a crowd of new recruits in the port city of aden. isis has claimed responsibility for the bombing. the attack follows u.s.-backed saudi airstrikes on friday that killed 11 civilians in northern yemen. the strikes came just one day after secretary of state john kerry met with the saudi foreign minister, where he urged a political solution to the war in yemen. despite the request, the u.s. continues to supply saudi arabia with arms. earlier this month, the state department approved a more than $1 billion deal to supply battle tanks and other weapons to the kingdom. meanwhile, isis has also claimed responsibility for a suicide bomb attack on a wedding in southern iraq on sunday, which killed at least 15 people. turkish airstrikes and shelling reportedly left dozens of civilians dead in northern syria, as the turkish military and its allies pushed deeper into the war-torn country. the u.k.-based syrian

observatory for human rights said 35 civilians died in separate attacks by turkish forces over the weekend. turkey's military claimed in a statement only that it had killed 25 syrian kurdish militia members. turkey's invasion of syria has further complicated the five year war in syria. both turkey and the kurdish militias are u.s. allies. the u.s. military has confirmed that the leader of isis was held as a u.s. prisoner at iraq's notorious abu ghraib prison in 2004. an investigation by the intercept found that abu bakr al-baghdadi, now the leader of the so-called islamic state, was held at the prison for eight of his 10 months in u.s. custody that year. his detention coincided with revelations of widespread torture at abu ghraib. at the time of his release, al-baghdadi was designated a low-level prisoner. many analysts believe he was radicalized while in u.s. custody. in colombia, a ceasefire between rebels and the colombian government has gone into effect, formally ending hostilities in a

52-year-old civil war that claimed an estimated 220,000 lives. early this morning, farc leader timoleon jimenez ordered his followers to lay down their arms. >> in my position as commander of the farc, i order all of our leaders, all of our unite -- units, each and every one of our combatants to cease-fire and hostilities in a definitive manner against the colombian state from midnight tonight. amy: in brazil, suspended president dilma rousseff will take the stand today to defend herself in an impeachment trial that's expected to lead to her ouster. lawmakers voted to suspend rousseff in may, in what many consider a coup by her right-wing opponents. leaked transcripts show at least one official plotted to oust rousseff in order to end a corruption investigation targeting him. the group transparency brazil

says 60% of brazilian lawmakers are currently under criminal investigation or have already been convicted of crimes ranging from corruption to election fraud. after headlines, we will go to rio de janeiro and speak with pulitzer prize-winning journalist glenn greenwald. germany's vice chancellor says talks aimed at forging a massive trade agreement between the u.s. and the european union have failed. sigmar gabriel, who also serves as germany's economy minister, said the stalemate could spell sunday the end of the proposed transatlantic trade and investment partnership, or ttip, which would be the largest free trade agreement in the world. it has faced massive resistance on both sides of the atlantic, including a 35,000-person protest in germany ahead of obama's visit in april. chicago police have arrested a pair of brothers and charged them with murdering the cousin of basketball star dwayne wade.

32-year-old nykea aldridge was shot dead on friday afternoon as she pushed her baby stroller near an elementary school in the parkway gardens neighborhood. her baby was not injured. brothers darwin and derren sorrells face first-degree murder charges in the killing. both had felony convictions and were on parole. aldridge leaves behind four children. her cousin, chicago bulls star dwayne wade, spoke out on twitter, writing -- "the city of chicago is hurting. we need more help & more hands on deck. not for me and my family but for the future of our world. the youth!" chicago is on track to see its highest homicide rate since 1997. this is the police superintendent johnson. >> this tragedy is not just noteworthy because it is aldridge is a famous family member. it is noteworthy because these two offenders are the prime example of the challenge we face here in chicago with repeat gun offenders that don't care who

they shoot, don't care whose lives they take, and clearly, clearly do not fear the consequences of their action. amy: on the campaign trail, donald trump is facing widespread criticism for attempting to use the killing of nykea aldridge to appeal to african americans, writing on twitter -- "dwayne wade's cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in chicago. just what i have been saying. african-americans will vote trump!" he was met with immediate backlash for politicizing aldridge's death and misspelling dwayne wade's name in the tweet. a message posted on his twitter account later offered condolences to wade and his family. meanwhile former victims of , racial housing discrimination at units operated by the trump family are speaking out. in 1973, the nixon justice department sued donald and his father fred trump for discriminating against african-americans in new york. one african american woman who

was denied an apartment at fred trump's wilshire apartments in queens spoke to "the new york times." this is mae wiggins. >> 53 years ago, my friend and i inlied for an apartment queens new york and we were both told were no vacancies. realized there were vacancies because they still had the ads running and i was pretty sure it was because of the color of our skin. i have always felt that the trump organization was biased. and i will go to my grave with that thought. amy: according to "the new york times," the very first time donald trump was mentioned in the paper was in 1973 in front-page article headlined, "major landlord accused of anti-black bias in city." the 1973 article quoted donald trump responding to the charges. he said -- "they are absolutely ridiculous.

we never have discriminated and we never would." the trump family settled in 1975 with a consent decree that they were later accused of breaking. donald trump's new campaign chief steve bannon is facing questions about domestic abuse, alleged and as a medic comment, and apparent voter fraud. steve bannon was charged in 1996 with misdemeanor domestic violence, battery, and dissuading a witness. a santa monica, california police report said bannon , grabbed then-wife mary louise piccard by the throat and arm, and threatened to leave with the couple's twin daughters. bannon pleaded not guilty to the charges, which were dropped later that year when piccard did not appear in court. she claimed in divorce proceedings that bannon pressured her not to testify. she also said in a sworn 2007 court filing that bannon made anti-semitic comments when the two argued over whether to send their daughters to a private school. according to one document, piccard said -- "he said that he doesn't like

the way they raise their kids to be 'whiny brats' and that he didn't want the girls going to school with jews." meanwhile, bannon changed his voter registration over the weekend after the guardian reported he was registered at an empty home where he does not live. the house in miami-dade county, florida, is vacant and due to be demolished to make way for a new development. following the report, bannon re-registered to vote in florida's sarasota county, at the single-family home of a former colleague at the right-wing website breitbart news. bannon was the head of breitbart until two weeks ago when he took over the helm of donald trump's election campaign. california judge aaron persky will no longer hear criminal cases following outrage over lenient sentences he handed down to sexual offenders. persky became the subject of a recall campaign after he sentenced stanford university swimmer brock turner to a six-month prison term for

sexually assaulting an unconscious woman behind a dumpster. in 2015, judge persky gave a four-day sentence to a man found guilty of possessing child abuse images. he will be reassigned to a civil court in san jose at his own , request. president barack obama has expanded a national monument near the hawaiian islands, creating the world's largest marine reserve. the designation quadruples the size of the protected habitat, making it more than twice the size of texas. the area is home to some 7000 species. lawmakers in the state of maine are considering holding a special session to censure republican governor paul lepage. he recently described african-americans and latinos as "the enemy" and suggested they need to be shot. >> i got the bad guy. i don't care what color it is. when you go to war, if you know the enemy is the enemy dressed

in red and you're dressed in blue, you shoot at red. you have been in uniform. you shoot at the enemy. you try to identify the enemy. in the enemy right now, the overwhelming majority of people ,oming in our people of color people of hispanic origin. amy: maine governor paul lepage is also facing criticism for leaving a obscenity-filled voicemail for a democratic lawmaker. >> i would like to talk to but your comments [indiscernible] i want to talk to you. i will you to prove that i am a racist. spend my life helping black people in you little son i need you -- i

want you to record this and make it public because i am after you. thank you. amy: governor lepage was the second governor to endorse donald trump. police in oklahoma have released body camera video showing an officer pepper-spraying an 84-year-old african american woman in her own home. the video shows muskogee officers kicking in the door of geneva smith's residence on august 7 as they pursued her son for allegedly running a stop sign and fleeing from police. the son, arthur paul blackmon, is seen holding his hands up as an officer shoots him in the torso with a taser while he is standing inside the house. the video then shows police ordering his elderly mother to turn around. she appears confused over why police are in her home at 2:45 in the morning. after 40 seconds, smith is pepper-sprayed in the face. smith told tulsa tv channel fox

23 she is planning a lawsuit. >> i just come out and asked them what was going on, and they just pepper spray to me. they handcuffed me and drug now to the car and put me in there. amy: geneva smith says she was first taken to jail, but was later hospitalized after she became ill from the pepper spray. a star quarterback for the san francisco 49ers refused to rise for the national anthem before a pre-season nfl game on friday, in a protest against police brutality and in solidarity with the black lives matter movement. colin kaepernick remained seated while his teammates stood for the playing of the "star spangled banner" ahead of a match against the green bay packers. explaining his protest to nfl.com, kaepernick said -- "i am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. to me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. there are bodies in the street

and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder." in a news conference, kaepernick also vowed to continue to sit during the national anthem. >> i will continue to sit. i'm going to continue to stand with the people that are being oppressed. to me, this is something that has to change. when there is significant change and i feel like that flag represents what it is supposed to represent in this country is representing people it is supposed to, i will stay in. amy: the legendary singer beyonce wowed audiences of the mtv video music awards on sunday, performing a 15-minute medley of songs from her album "lemonade." beyonce invited to the gala several mothers of african american men killed by police or vigilantes, including wanda johnson, mother of oscar grant, lezley mcspadden, mother of michael brown, gwen carr, mother of eric garner, and sybrina fulton, mother of trayvon martin. mcspadden and fulton appeared in

the video for beyonce's song "freedom" holding pictures of their deceased sons. and the legendary mexican signer -- singer juan gabriel has died at the age of 66. known as the "latino elvis," he sold more than 100 million records making him one of the , popular stars in latin america. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. embattled brazilian president dilma rousseff is slated to testify today at her impeachment trial -- a trial that many are calling a coup by her right-wing political rivals. rousseff has denounced the proceedings and called for early elections to unite the country. >> for that we say if the impeachment is confirmed without proof of culpability, it will be a coup d'etat.

i give my full support of referendum so people can decide to call for early elections and flip through -- political reform as well. --dilma rousseff plus impeachment stems from accusations she tampered with government accounts to hide a budget deficit. she was suspended earlier this year and has maintained her innocence, accusing her political opponents of spearheading the proceedings to shield themselves from prosecution and undo years of progressive policies. the brazilian group transparency brazil says 60% of brazilian lawmakers are currently under criminal investigation or have already been convicted of crimes ranging from corruption to election fraud. on saturday, senator paulo paim of rousseff's workers' party challenged the impeachment as an attack on the democratic right of the brazilian people to choose their president. >> this impeachment process against the president is an attack on democracy, an attack on the president, an attack on the brazilian people. amy: dilma rousseff's opponents

now need 54 votes, or two-thirds of the 81-seat senate, to convict her of violating budget laws. her impeachment would end 13 years of the left-wing workers party rule in brazil and bring to power interim president michel temer for the remaining two years of rousseff's term. temer is also deeply unpopular and currently under investigation himself, accused of receiving illegal campaign contributions linked to the state oil company petrobras. meanwhile, rousseff's mentor, former president luiz inacio lula da silva, is also facing a rash of legal woes. brazilian federal police are recommending corruption charges against him and his wife marisa leticia. the police say the couple benefited from renovations to a seaside apartment made by a construction firm. the da silvas deny owning the property, and their lawyer said friday there is no evidence linking the couple to the apartment. all this comes as brazilians are battling an economic recession, a massive zika outbreak, and the aftermath of the 2016 olympic games. both pro and anti-impeachment protesters have gathered in

brazil's capital of rio de janeiro as the political future of brazil lays in limbo. for more, we go now to rio de janeiro, brazil where we're joined by glenn greenwald, pulitzer prize-winning journalist. he recently helped launch the intercept brasil in portuguese to cover brazilian social and political news. glenn greenwald is also closely following the u.s. presidential elections. let's begin with what is happening in brazil right now and welcome to democracy now! talk about the impeachment of dilma rousseff. minuterally, this very at 9:00 a.m. local time, 8:00 eastern, dilma is arriving at the senate where she will confront her accusers, in essence, and give her final 30 minutes beach as part of her impeachment trial. she does not need to do it. she chose to do it.

it is a remarkable contrast with her former vice president him and now the interim president, who is about to become the country's unelected president michel temer. during the olympics, mr. temer broke protocol by demanding his name not be announced at the opening ceremony because he was scared of being booed by the crowd. that is how unpopular and he did he is. when the crowd saw him, even without him being announced, him.quite viciously booed he skipped the closing ceremony. while he is hiding, dilma, who has a history as a fighter against this country costs former military dictatorship, who endured years of torture while imprisoned as a political prisoner, chooses to go and confront her accusers face-to-face and will give what, by all accounts, will likely be a very strong and aggressive and to fight speech consistent with

-- to fight speech consistent with her political persona. it is quite remarkable for so many reasons, including the fact, as you said, the majority of the senate, just as was true the majority in the house that impeached her, the majority of the senate sitting in judgment of her are people who themselves are extremely corrupt, if not outright criminals. they're either people convicted of crimes or who are under multiple investigations, including the president of the 2007 had to leave his position over a serious scandal involving lobbyist money to pay off his mistress, now under multiple investigations. just like the president of the house that impeached her, was found with millions of dollars sn swiss bank account hidden away. he of a band of criminals removing this woman who became twice elected president of her country in a country that had iter previously elected

woman. it is extraordinary to watch it unfold given what a young and vibrant democracy brazil is and how this group of people in brasilia are literally trifling with the finals of democracies. amy: let's turn to suspend a president to my rousseff in her own --dilma rousseff in her own words this past may. isn't an impeachment, it is a coup. i did not commit high crimes and misdemeanors. there's no justification for an impeachment charge. i don't have bank accounts abroad. i never received bribes. i never condoned corruption. the trial against me is fragile, legally inconsistent, unjust, unleashed against an honest and innocent person. the greatest brutality that can

be committed against any person is to punish them for a crime they did not commit. no injustice is more devastating than condemning and innocent. -- an innocent. what is at stake is respect for the ballot box. the sovereign divine -- desires of the people of the constitution. the achievements of the last 13 years. amy: that is dilma rousseff speaking in may. she has been ousted and is being impeached today where she is testifying on her behalf. what, explain exactly she's accused of and what the whole process will be, how long it will take, and what this means for the country. herhe formal charge against that they're using to justify impeachment in portuguese is called -- it really means pedaling. he refers to a budgetary maneuver where the government borrows money from a state bank and then delays repayment in

order to make it appear the government owes less money. she essentially is accused of using budgetary tricks to make the state of the government budget look at her in order to win reelection. something that when you talk to europeans or americans, they the fattal meant that something like that could justify the removal of a democratically elected president given that is extremely common for political leaders around the world to do. in fact, prior brazilian president have used this same method. in fact, when the house actually impeached her, as a lot of people watched around the world, one after the other stood up to justify their impeachment vote and virtually none of them even referenced fleetingly this charge against her regarding these budgetary maneuvers because it is so plainly not the reason she is being removed. that is the pretext for the reason that she is being removed.

the reason she is being removed is because she is in a popular president. the economy is weak and a lot of people are suffering because of it. as you indicated earlier in the opening package, the party to which she belongs, the workers party, has been in power for 13 years and the reason they have been in power for 13 years is because they have won four consecutive national elections. there is no way that the opposition, which is composed of oligarchs and business interests in media barons and conservatives and uber nationalists has concluded that they are incapable of defeating this party in the ballot box -- meaning, within the democratic process. so they are using her unpopularity and the serious mistakes she has made to remove her undemocratically. i think the most important thing to realize about this process, --zilian media leads constantly saying, oh, in the

u.s. you have impeachment and europe there is impeachment. this is a constitutional means of removing a president. and the big difference is that in the u.s., if you impeached the president, if you had impeached bill clinton in 1997 or 1998, out or whatever come president, the democratic party would have remained in power, and the agenda and ideology ratified would have been the same. in brazil, it is the opposite. the vice president who is now become interim president, about to become president, is not part of the workers party. he has aligned himself with the right-wing party that has continuously lost at the ballot box. their candidates have been rejected. as a result of this impeachment process, the very party and the very ideology that the brazilian people have over and over rejected when asked to vote is now ascending to power. and their agenda of

privatization and cutting social programs and keeping taxes low to benefit the oligarchs is now gradually being imposed as is their foreign-policy of moving and from regional alliances becoming once again extremely subservient to the u.s. and a wall street and international capital. so you can call it a coup a debate whether that word applies, but what it is is a complete reversal of democracy in a way that is ushering in an agenda that benefits a small lever of people that the brazilian citizens have never accepted -- in fact, have continuously rejected. the process now is the senate is nearing its end of the trial and likely vote within the next week to 10 days. there is a no doubt that they have the votes in order to convict her -- already, 52 senators say they intend to vote yes and all he 54 are needed. once this conviction happens, dilma will be permanently removed from office.

the interim president michel temer will serve out the remainder of her term through 2018 -- even though he is under far more investigation and implicated in far more evenption than she is, and of the supreme court has said you could not divide them when it comes to impeachment. you have to essentially consider the impeachment of both because they both participated in the same transactions. all of that law, all of this corruption issues are being completely ignored for one reason and one reason only. that is the most powerful people in this country want this right-wing agenda. they know they cannot make it happen to the ballot box, so they are making it happen through brute force. amy: earlier this year, you interviewed the former brazilian president lula da silva who described the situation in brazil as a coup. >> i will tell you why it is a coup. while the brazilian constitution , it isfor impeachment necessary for the person to have

committed what we call high crimes and misdemeanors. amy: that his former brazilian president lula da silva. glenn greenwald, explain what is happening to him right now, the most recent charges being brought against him. >> lula is involved in several very serious scandals, including allegations of criminality. the most recent case is one where the federal police investigated have recommended

that he be indicted on claims that he received many, many hundreds of thousands of dollars in improvements to a triplex apartment that the police say he owned and that this was intended to be a gift from a large construction giant here in brazil that has been close to the workers party that has received a lot of contracts, lucrative contracts from the workers party, and they claim is illegal that he intended to hide these assets, that they were intended to constitute bribes. he denies he ever owned the apartment, that it is his. he has not been convicted. but those allegations should be investigated and the process should be permitted to run its course. i think one really important thing to note is that a lot of people in brazil, including people who have favored impeachment, including the nation's largest newspaper, have long said that you should remove dilma but also remove temer and

have new elections -- which is the obvious thing to do. if the vice president and the president are both implicated in wrongdoing, if there is serious unpopularity they both share -- which they do -- why let the people in brazil you choose -- brazil that are corrupt choose? haveare petrified of the new elections, the person is going to win is lula. he leads in all polls. when asked who preferences they have. there also petrified that in 2018, he will run again. there many people who believe rendering himncapable of running, by charging with crimes, bike convicting them of something inoperative and joe, just making it so he cannot become president against a they don't come to this again, only a again.p with lul

he is 70 was involved in lots of possible scandals. he is subjected to the load like anybody else in these processes should be allowed to take their course. the problem is that there are lots of people in brazil who are also implicated in very serious allegations work really being protected in all sorts of ways by virtue of the fact that hold political office -- including people extremely close to the interim president himself . one of the things you played in that clip of my interview with lula was him talking about how this is a coup and only two months ago, there were -- sigrid released recordings made by a police informant with one of the closest senators to the current president temer who was originally one of his ministers who had to resign after the tape was revealed in which he said the reason dilma was being impeached and the motive for doing this was to shut down the investigation against the officeholders in brazil and that

the supreme court and the media and the military of brazil were all on board. that he is spoken to all of those institutions and their all on board. so when you look at that tape -- which to me is the most significant evidence about what is taking place in brazil -- yet the leading institutions of brazil, including the courts and military, secretly conspiring to remove the elected president as a means of protecting all of the other officeholders in brazil from ongoing corruption investigations. i think that bolstered the claim that lula made in that interview, regardless of whether he is also guilty of wrongdoing. amy: earlier this month, bernie sanders strongly denounced the impeachment of brazil's democratic -- democratically elected president. in a statement posted on his senate website, sanders laid out his position as "calling on the united states to take a definitive stand against efforts to remove brazilian president dilma rousseff from office." he added -- "to many brazilians and observers the controversial impeachment process more closely resembles a coup d'etat."

so talk about the timing of bernie sanders statement, the content of his statement, and then hillary clinton, donald trump as they wait income and also president obama. it is been fascinating to watch because originally the perception of this process was shaped by brazil's domestic media, which is an oligarchic media, owned by a tiny number of extremely rich families, all of whom are united against the workers party and in favor of impeachment. reporters without borders, the global media group said these media organizations were not acting as journalists. they were agitating against democracy in pursuit of their owners. so the perception originally was this was the people rising up against the corrupt government. but as more people started looking about what was happening in brazil, as more international journalists who are not beholden

to these domestic interest started reporting, international opinion started radically changing. just this weekend, the largest and most inferential paper in france, one of the most influential in the world, said it was not a coup, it was a farce. give international transparency groups denouncing it, the organization of american states, members of the british parliament, and now senator sanders. you see there is growing awareness of what is actually taking place in brazil, this attack on democracy. i think it is a little disturbing because throughout the campaign he ran, foreign policy was a very -- you could say ignored, but certainly de-prioritized part of bernie sanders challenge to hillary clinton, even though her foreign policy needed so many objections and questions and attacks, is into have very little interest in it. now that he is done, he is willing, i guess, to be at

it for your on commenting on foreign policy. i wish that statement had been issued a lot earlier. the united states government has been remarkably silent about what is taking place in brazil, for the abbeys reason that they got caught -- obvious reason that they got caught in the of thehave bing been part two after vehemently denying for years they were involved. documents surfaced showing they were critical to its but in the coup and also supporting the military dictatorship that followed. brazilians are very sensitive about whatever role the u.s. might be playing in their internal affairs. the president and the state department have in very kind of muted about what it is they're willing to say. the u.s. government for decades has always preferred right-wing governments to left-wing governments in latin america. they have proven that over and over.

as i said earlier, the right-wing faction that is now taking power in brazil once to become subservient again to the u.s.. i think it stands to reason that president obama and hillary clinton and the rest of the state department and pentagon to the extent they care are pretty happy about the developments that have taken place here in brazil in terms of a government that wasn't elected but much more favorable to american interests. amy: glenn greenwald, we're going to go to break and come back to this discussion, both what is happening in brazil, the aftermath of the olympics, you starting your own intercept in brazil with a group of people covering brazilian politics. we are to pulitzer prize-winning journalist glenn greenwald. we will be back with them in a moment. ♪ [music break]

amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. as we continue our conversation with pulitzer prize-winning greenwald weenn , turn to the presidential election and the democratic party's continuing efforts to deal with the questions surrounding hillary clinton and the clinton foundation. on sunday, democratic national committee interim chairwoman donna brazile defended clinton's meetings as secretary of state with clinton foundation donors on cbs's "face the nation." >> when republicans meet with their donors, with their supporters, they call it a meeting. when democrats do it, it is called a conflict. it is not paid a platelet someone gave someone $.50 to say i need a meeting. in this great country of ours, when you meet with constituents and heads of state and meet with people like bono, who i love, you meet with them because they want to bring a matter to your attention. that is not pay to play.

it is called that when democrats do it. it is not called that when republicans do it. amy: donna brazile's comments come in response to an associated press investigation revealing that while hillary clinton served as secretary of state, more than half of the private citizens she met with during the reporting period had donated to the clinton foundation. the ap investigation comes after a three-year battle to gain access to state department calendars. the analysis shows that at least 85 of 154 people hillary clinton had scheduled phone or in-person meetings with were foundation donors. this does not include meetings clinton held with u.s. or foreign government workers or representatives, only private citizens. these 85 donors contributed more than $150 million to the clinton foundation combined. the ap investigation has faced criticism for excluding clinton's meetings with u.s. and foreign government officials which some say present a skewed view of her activities will secretary of state. in a statement, the associated

press definitive investigation writing -- this all comes as a federal judge has ordered the state department to set a timetable for the release of 15,000 additional e-mails the fbi has collected during the agency's investigation into clinton's use of a private e-mail server. for more we continue our conversation with glenn greenwald of the intercept. yes been closely following the u.s. presidential elections. his recent piece for the intercept is headlined, "why did the saudi regime and other gulf tyrannies donate millions to the clinton foundation?" so ,glenn, your response? >> i mean, the problem here is the context in which this is all taking place is the republicans have nominated this truly unstable, dangerous and often terrifying person who obviously should never get anywhere near

the white house. and so there seems to be a lot of people, including in journalism, who think that because that is the case, the democratic nominee who has all kinds of flaws and vulnerability and ethical clouds surrounding her, should sort of get to waltz into the white house free of challenge or questioning because somehow it is our civic and moral duty to make sure that donald trump loses the election. although i do think that donald trump getting anywhere near the white house is very dangerous, i think it is dangerous to allow someone to gain extraordinary amounts of political power even more than the hourly have without being challenged or questioned by an adversarial media. the role of journalists should be to shine a light on both of them. there is a lot of light to be shined on what bill and hillary clinton have been doing in terms of unifying private wealth and oligarchical financing and enormous amounts of political power in ways that blur every single conceivable ethical line. said in a brazile

video you played is nothing short of laughable. it is not question when republicans do favors for their donors? of course it is. it is been of course and told critique of the democratic party critique of the democratic party that for years republicans are corrupt because they serve the interest of their big donors. one of the primary positions of the democratic party is the citizens united decision of the supreme court has corrupted politics because it allows huge money to flow into the political process in a way that ensures or at least creates the appearance of people are doing favors for donors. here you have hillary and bill clinton having this clinton foundation with billions of dollars pouring into it from some of the world's worst tyrannies like saudi arabia and the united arab emirates and other gulf states, other people who have all kinds of vested interests in the policies of the u.s. government. at the same time, in many cases,

the bill and hillary clinton are being personally enriched by the some people doing speeches are many hundreds of thousands of dollars in front of them. at the same time that she is running the state department, getting ready to run for president, and soon running the executive branch. the primary defense of democrats which is, look, there is no proof of a quid pro quo. yes, hillary clinton did things that benefited these donors, but you can't prove that the reason she did them is because the clinton foundation got this money or her husband got this money. this is an absurd standard. of course you can't prove a quid pro quo because you cannot get into the mind of somebody and show their motives. that was the argument of antonin scalia and john roberts in citizens united and anthony kennedy. they said, look, you cannot prove that big money are corrupting. maybe it creates in a karen's of it, but you cannot prove it. the problem here is the clintons have essentially become the claim there's of eliminating all

of these -- high in years of eliminating all of these lines and using that wealth to boost their own political power and using the political power to boost the interest of the people who are enriching them in all kinds of ways and of course questions need to be asked and suspicions are necessarily raised because this kind of behavior is inherently suspicious and it needs a lot of media scrutiny and a lot of attention, and i'm glad it is getting that. amy: let me go to paul glastris, editor in chief of "the washington monthly" president bill clinton's to speechwriter from 1998 to 2001. i want to go to his comments. >> the reason the clinton state department and the entire obama administration was willing to give a lot of arms to the saudis and the bahrainid is they work to bring them by trying to open negotiations with iran. everybody knows this. we don't need to kind of find

some nefarious pay off in order to understand the policy. you can agree with the policy or disagree with the policy, but if you're in favor of the opening of iran, it is hard to say they should not have sold these arms to the sunnis. they were trying to keep a balance of power going in order to bring some kind of peace and resolution of these nuclear issues. amy: he had a debate at the time on democracy now! last week with david sirota of international business times. your response, glenn? thatat a dishonest hack guy is. think about what you just heard. this is a former democratic operative who now is the editor in chief of the liberal magazine and "the washington monthly." he is looking into the camera and speaking into his microphone and justifying selling arms to the worst regime or one of the worst regimes on the planet, which is the saudi regime,

because he needs to do that the clintons.d that is what the democratic party has become. he is in the position of having to justify extraordinarily immoral behavior. the saudi's are using those arms our final to them by the u.s. government, approved by hillary clinton, to obliterate many children -- yemeni children and civilians for over two years with the direct help of the u.s. government. he is justifying that as some sort of magnanimous desire on the part of the clintons to bring about world peace by forging a deal with bahrain. the democratic party and the republican party have been funding the saudis for decades, long before that nonsensical excuse was even available about trying to facilitate the iran deal. at the same time, the saudis are beating millions and millions of dollars through the clinton foundation and enriching and empowering the clintons and all kinds of ways.

it is a case of the clintons of the world's worst desperate scratching each other's back while democratic propagandists like the one we just heard from justify it as some sort of anonymous gesture and this has become the problem, which is you have -- there was all of this talk about the dangers of letting the media merge with a political campaign when donald trump hired the chairman of breitbart. yet what you have is huge number's of media outlets that are liberal media outlets which exist for no reason but to serve the democratic party and the political leaders. they justify every single thing they do. they defend them from every single criticism that exist without any, of scruples or even pretense of independents. overwhelmingly, the american media is completely on the side of the clintons and hillary clinton in this campaign and the liberals in the u.s. media are more propagandistic and defending hillary clinton that even her own campaign speak --

spokespeople are an active proof that separately. amy: we have talked a lot about hillary clinton and she do get a lot of negative attention this past week over these revelations of the associated press am a but not as much as she what have because of all that donald trump has been saying and tweeting and representing. glenn greenwald, what are your comments on hillary clinton's opponent donald trump? --i mean, donald trump is the tactic of the democratic hardy in the last 25 years, they know that ever since i became the party of sort of corporatism and wall street, they don't inspire anybody so their tactic is to say the republican party is the epitome of evil, even when they have conventional nominees like john mccain or mitt romney, they demonize them and say they are this unparalleled threat to democracy. in the selection by coincidence, it happens to be true. the person the republican party

has nominated on a personal extraordinarily unstable and vindictive and dangerous a narcissistic in a way that you really would not minorhim to occupy any political office, let alone command the military of the u.s. and the entire executive branch. the rhetoric that he has been embracing over the past 18 months is extraordinarily frightening because even if he loses, he is emboldened in extremists, nationalism, racism -- all caps a bigotry. he is giving license for its expression. he is serving as a galvanizing dangerousthese very elements, not just in the american political culture, but in europe and elsewhere throughout the right. it is unthinkable to allow him anywhere near the white house given the things he wants to do from deporting 11 million people to barring all muslims from entering the country, and so many of the other things you

said -- even though he is so unstable you don't know he would do any of them, the instability is so risky. this has become the real problem . he is such a kind of dangerous presence on the american landscape that a lot of people have become afraid of doing their jobs and scrutinizing his opponent. i think that also is quite dangerous, even though i understand the motives the height it. amy: i want to ask you about a piece he just recently wrote. explain the title. >> one of the things that happened during the election campaign is all of the focus on the media, therefore the american public that goes to the personalities of the two candidates and the was government does incredibly important things, consequential things like it's a nor -- gets

ignored. the u.s. is by far the biggest benefactor of the israeli government. we are ready give $3 billion a year in taxpayer money, in military aid, all sorts of other forms of aid including diplomatic cover as they bomb gaza, occupy the palestinians, violate international law. it is because the u.s. government enables this. in many ways, israel is more prosperous and thriving and its citizens enjoy more benefits than american citizens do -- including universal health care and free college, which the israelis enjoy but the u.s. doesn't, as we transfer billions of dollars to them. one thing president obama is doing with thomas to attention as he is negotiated a deal with israel to significantly increase the amount of money that israel gets -- so no government, and future congress can even reverse

and the position of the israeli government is, we are angry that it is not even more. there are some nuances there such as questions about how much of that money has to be used to buy weapons from american manufacturers, but the idea is to keep israel military superior to its neighbors to ensure they can continue to dominate the region without challenge. and also domestic political reasons for the democratic party to show voters care about israel, namely evangelical and jewish voters, that they are doing even more for israel. it is incredible consequential given what israel does to the palestinians, incredibly immoral, yet it is being done with almost no debate, no bipartisan dispute, and virtually zero media attention. amy: we have to go to break that we will come back to wrap up this discussion. glenn greenwald, speaking to us from rio de janeiro, brazil, where he lives. stay with us. ♪ [music break]

amy: "querido" by juan gabriel.

he died on sunday at the age of 66. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are speaking with glenn greenwald pulitzer prize-winning , journalist. he recently helped launch the intercept brasil in portuguese to cover brazilian social and political news. why, glenn? brazil,icated earlier one of the principal problems is that a dominant media that is incredibly homogenous. it is owned by three or four billionaire families who are very close to the government, who have very similar political views. they have been condemned by reporters without borders, which is a threat to democracy. when we started doing recording -- reporting on the political crisis eight or 10 months ago at the intercept, the reason was to fill that gap in the response was extraordinary. the number of people reading the articles we were writing was very large because there is a hunger for independent an adversary a journalism.

there's a lot of good independent bloggers, but they do not have the institutional resources that we were able to bring. we decided going forward to continue doing that kind of journalism. we created a team of about 10 to 12 brazilian journalist and editors and columnists and we hope to expand the coverage and the idea is to shine a light on the perspectives and stories and voices that are typically ignored by brazil's dominant media. amy: can you talk about the aftermath of the rio olympics? everything from the ryan lochte scandal to the protests around the olympics that so few people got to see, though there was massive coverage of course of the games? >> it really remains to be seen what the fallout will be. obviously, there have been some infrastructure improvements in rio as a result of the olympics. their subway lines that have been built that did not previously exist. by and large, most of the money was spent to improve the areas

and neighborhoods were upper-middle-class to the wealthiest people of the city live and will be able to use, and the nations -- the city's poorest residents were essentially ignored. not entirely, but overwhelmingly. there is a massive crime problem in brazil, especially in rio, that was sort of kept under control during the olympics. but now that the tens of thousands of military troops occupying the city are mostly gone, the question is, what will happen with that? most of the residents of the city who live without even minimal services watched billions and billions of dollars being spent on stadiums that will not be used and buildings that will now be sold at great profit while their minimal, meager social programs will now be cut by government that was never elected. there's a lot of anger and disillusionment and a lot of resentment about what the aftermath of the olympics will likely entail for the people who

are in the greatest need. amy: glenn, thank you for being with us. i want you to stay with us to do a post show that we will post on democracynow.org. the realtorald is prize-winning journalist, one of the founding editors of the intercept. recently helped launch the intercept brasil in portuguese to cover brazilian social and political news. that does it for our show. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to outreach@democracynow.org or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. [captioning made possible by democracy now!]

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