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from berlin. another german shoulder -- soldier arrested, accused of putting together a neo-nazi hit list. he was hard of a right-wing plot to kill politicians and blame refugees for the crime. he is the third suspect arrested in the last few weeks. also, choosing the moon. south koreans have elected moon jae-in to be their new president. he has made promises washington says could strain of the ce between north korea's
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nuclear ambitions. is see the man to bring peace to the peninsula? in jakarta, a court finds a christian governor guilty of blasphemy, making it a test of religious tolerance in a muslim majority country, indonesia. i am brent goff, it is good to have you with us. he was responsible for the hit list of people to be murdered. that is why police in germany are claiming tonight, following the latest arrest in the case of a suspected far right terror cell inside the german army. authorities suspect the lieutenant helped another officer in a plot to assassinate top politicians and then blame refugees. this is the third arrest in the investigation so far. prosecutors say the names on that hit listncluded geany's president.
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>> their sites were sent on a former german president, and justice minister. investigators found their names on the list of potential targets. >> according to what we have discovered so far, the three suspects were planning an attack on the life of the senior politicians and public figures committed to what the suspects considered to be misguided refugee and immigration policies. >> police officers arrested the 27-year-old lieutenant at the border of france. the arrest raised concerns there might be a terror cell within the german armed forces. they are searching barracks for signs of right-wing extremism or anything glorifying germany's nazi past. they believed there was a plan to deflect attention. the evidence we have unced suggs
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to execute the attack himself. to do this, he had registered under a fictitious identity, posing as a syrian refugee seeking asylum. in this way, the three suspects wanted to steer suspicion after the attack toward asylum seekers living here. reporter: on wednesday, the defense committee will convene to discuss the case. the german defense minister will no doubt face a barrage of uncomfortable questions. brent: we want to pull in our political correspondent on the story tonight in berlin. good evening. the soldier that was charged today, he is thought to have been working with another soldier weeks ago. why the delay in these arrests? >> authorities have to put all the pieces together.
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frankl was arrested late april, two weeks ago. and then they had to find out who he had communicated with, how he had communicated, what type of connections he had had. that is how they came to maximilian, the person that was arrested today. we found to go specific areas where they were to try to find maximilian t. the first area was where franco a and maximilian were connecting. and there was a list of possible targets, i handwritten list. they believe maximilian, the person detained today, was possibly the one who wrote that list. brent: when we look at everything, all the evidence that has been amassed right now,
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are we to presume a lightning terror cell is operating inside the german army? >> we are not the only one to presume that that would be the case. there are german politicians at the bundestag who have said that specifically after the arrest today. however, it is unclear, to what extent we are talking, about a cell, organization, how prepared are organized they were, how can creep the plans were, how close they were to the targets. those are elements that have to be decided and investigated by authorities. from that perspective, it is still unclear whether you're talking about a terror cell organization within the german military. but it is being investigated. brent: these suspected attack plans, how concrete were those plans? thomas: they had that list,
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germany's former president, and justice minister come other three people involved, had also acquired a gun in austria. from that perspective we can say some of the elements were still in place. but it is still unclear how close they were to actually carrying out the plan. it was said franco a quick carry out the plan and maximilian what help him from the german military, but not necessarily carrying out the plan himself. brent: thomas, thank you very much. now, to south korea. moon jae-in has declared victory in the country's presidential election. a central left candidate's win, following his predecessor in a
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corruption scandal. his main oppon o conceded defeat. >> moon jae-in. reporter: the moment when moon jae-in stepped on the stage to greet his supporters. this, after exit polls showed the liberal politician was on course to become the next president of south korea. moon at the main square in downtown seoul was ecstatic. in contrast with scenes when millions demanded that ousting of moon's predecessor, park geun-hye, on corruption charges. moon about to usher in a new era for a country that lead bruised by the scandal. >> it is a great victory for a great people who have gone through the election together to create a just nation, a unified
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nation, and a nation where principles and common sense work. reporter: the former human rights lawyer's election ends nearly a decade of conservative role and brings a more conciliatory approach to north korea. moon will be officially sworn in as the new president after the election commission finishes the vote count on wednesday morning and declares the winner. brent: i am joined at the big table by a junior professor at the graduate school of east asian studies in berlin. good to have you on the show. before we talk about politics, you have met the president-elect of south korea. >> indeed, a couple years ago. i met him in south korea at the house of the former president, park geun-hye. it was quite pleasant. brent: did he strike you as a political animal?
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someone who would be leading the blue house? >> absolutely not. even back then, people said he was the next candidate. but i would not believe it because he seemed to modest, to soft as a personality to be a tough politician that would have the competitive power to make it to the presidency. brent: i heard today a comparison made between him and the election of emmanuel macron in france earlier this week. you are seeing around the world, candidates who have very little experience as politicians being elected to govern countries. is heriding -- is he riding that wave? >> it may seem that way on the servants -- surface. even though he is not a typical tough politician, he has enough experience.
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that is a difficult comparison. brent: let's talk about what is facing him, that being north korea and the conflict with north korea. he has been outspoken in his desire to talk more. g to see a return to what was known as the sunshine policy? of more engagement with north korea, is he going to push for that? >> yes, definitely. that is what he has been saying in his campaign pledges. in particular, he was working very closely with former president park geun-hye, who continued the sunshine policy. it is one of his major pledges to do so. brent: we do not know if the sunshine policy would even work as there is a new leader in north korea, as well. this is territory that has yet to be charted. hannes: that is true, but i
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would say it is not the new leader in north korea that is the element of uncertainty. rather it is president donald trump. before donald trump came onto the stage, at least it was the most probable and reasonable strategy tgo about to talk to north korea. dialogue is very important. brent: we have been hearing for several weeks that for the first time in the history of this conflict, you have two leaders who are unpredictable. you have the north korean leader and the american president. it is a strain for the alliance against north korea's nuclear ambitions. would you agree with that? and where does mr. moon fit into all of this? hannes: i am not sure if i agree to that. moon jae-in is very capable i think. he is working along the lines -- he has the resources, the
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personnel, and all the advisors that are necessary for that big .he is most well-equipped among the candidates they came to the residential election right now. it is easy, and it is comparable to the european union. if you have a common problem, you ought to solve it collectively. in doing so, you have to seek dialogue and talk to each other. that is what he says he will do. brent: you see a possible clash between president-elect moon and u.s. president trump? hannes: as of now, it seems so. i suppose the american government is seeing mr. moon as an strategy in the region. but, i would rather say the self-assured sovereign and autonomous acting south korea and south korean ally is much more in the interest of the united states. brent: what about this theory --
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he could be the man -- we've been talking for weeks and months about china and the u.s. being the players and being key to finding resolution on the korean peninsula -- maybe none of that is true? maybe it will be an unexpected leader from south korea that is going to bring peace to the peninsula? hannes: this is rather a dream. he is not the savior that can solve all the problems at once. it is a very, very complicated and complex situation in the region. you have to talk to all the actors in the region, particularly china. he is not a man that can solve the problem by himself. ith his moderate personality and experience and background with the kim jong-un administration, he could be a moderator between. brent: he was elected with this huge political scandal surrounding his predecessor.
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is he going to clean up the corruption that voters think is just rampant in politics? hannes: at least he said he would try to do so. this is not a task you can accomplish in the year or five years. but i'm sure he is also pressure now by the people who demand it so urgently and fiercely, the fight of corruption. he can do nothing else but try to do it. brent: we will see what he does now that he is elected. hannes mosler, thank you very much appreciate you being on the show. germany has granted political asylum to a number of turkish military personnel and a move that is likely to further strain relations between berlin and ank ara. several officials have seek asylum in germany after last year's failed coup.
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♪ brent: welcome back, here with dw news live from berlin. german authorities have arrested a second soldier accused of taking part in a far right terror plot. he believe he is an accomplice of an army officer arrested two weeks ago. police said they planned to kill politicians and blame refugees for the crime. the governor of the indonesian capital jakarta has been found guilty of blasphemy.
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he was christian and received a two year term. it is a much harsher punishment that prosecutors had called for. the trial was seen as a test of religious tolerance in the muslim-majority country. the reactions have been sharply divided. reporter: shocked and angry protesters ask for the release of jakarta's former christian governor. he was convicted of insulting islam by quoting a versem in crn opponent. they say it is a miscarriage of justice. >> we are disappointed, the law is blind. he can no longer tell between right and wrong. he is innocent, yet accused of blasphemy.
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we are disappointed in the law in indonesia. reporter: purnama was the first non-muslim governor in a century. it sparked concerns about growing religious intolerance in indonesia. minorities, including christians, have been increasingly targeted. outside the courtroom, conservative muslim groups said purnama should be punished more harshly for his comments. >> two years is very lenient, in my opinion, for purnama. compared to the pain of muslims and the sacrifices made by muslims, including the nation that was almost wrecked by a blasphemer. reporter: thousands of police
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officers were deployed to prevent clashes between critics and supporters of purnama. the former governor says he will appeal the verdict. brent: the last days of the french election were dominated by the high-profile hacking of emmanuel macron's campaign team. intelligence officials say it will not be the last. that is according to a warning by u.s. intelligence experts, including michael rodgers. in testimony before congress, he said his agency had detected an 11th hour attack targeting the newly elected french president. he also said the nsa was certain who was behind the hack. have a listen. >> if you take a look at the french elections, and unclassified hearing, i will not get into specifics -- but we have become aware of russian activity. wepocounterparts prior to the es attributed this past weekend.
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we gave them a heads-up that we are watching the russians, we have seen them penetrate your infrastructure. here is what we have seen, what can we do to assist? we are doing similar things with our german counterparts, british counterparts. we are trying to figure out how to learn from each other. brent: the lyrically motivated hacks are also the agenda here in berlin. republic of -- republica, is taking place in the german capital. organizers say they have seen the internet or what with its early promise succumbing to difficult realities. delegates are debating comments like hate posts, extremism, and fake news. speakers include the russian human rights activist who accuses russian president vladimir putin by influencing elections in france and the u.s., which we just heard about. our correspondent spoke to him earlier in the day.
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reporter: he is with me now. whether russia is behind this alleged attack in france or not, how big a threat or such hacking attacks for democracy? >> we are not to discuss this. of course, putin was behind the attacks in france and u.s., and germany. that is his conscious policy, to undermine democratic institutions. it was a serious threat because there are unlimited opportunities to attack institutions. reporter: you are one of vlir putin's greatest opponents. you criticized their election process. yet, he is popular in russia. how do you explain the popularity? >> you are misleading your readership, speaking of him as a dictator. dictators are always popular
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because the polls are simply fake. people are not in a position to express their views. i am stalin was popular, hibbler was popular -- hitler was popular. is not to compare the popularity of angela merkel or donald trump or theresa may. we should remember, pretending dictators enjoy popularity is simply ignoring the fact that if they were really popular, they would run for free elections. reporter: when it comes to the use of big data, y're not a critic. you are in favor of the fact. what do you think the general public is not getting in this debate? >> people of been afraid about any new technologies since the beginning of the history of the human race. big data is a fact, something we have to deal with. if we do not do anything with that, somebody else will.
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if we create a vacuum, bad guys will fill the vacuum. as with any technology before, if you have nuclear energy, you can build nuclear bombs or reactors. it depends how we treated. big data, intelligent machines can turn things into reality. reporter: and you for talking to us. brent: from big data to big pay, ceo pay. it is a political hot potato in the u.s., the gap between what top management are in what the average worker earns. we have the latest on that. reporter: a very big gap, indeed. the average ceo in the u.s. earns in a single day almost what a typical worker earns in a year. that is according to the u.s. labor federation. it says the pay gap grew significantly since last year. ceos earned on average $13
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million, 347 times most of the employees, which took, around $37,000. this year, the gap grew wider. the afl-ci haso renewed their call for a crackdown on a ceo pay. workers were not benefiting when their companies did well. let's talk more about this with our financial correspondent in new york. what is the deal on this in the united states, is there a regulation or rule -- when it comes to ceo pay? >> no, there is a no rule. it looks so shockingly unfair. a half-century ago the ratio of executive pay compared to the pay of an employee was about $20 per executive to each one dollar earned by the employee. today, this ratio is $300 to one dollar. there were cries earlier by
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clinton and obama with the dodd frank acin 2016, the pay ratio e effective, which did not mean a limitation of pay, but the exposure in order to threaten and put the spotlight on a potentially embarrassing disparity. the idea of shame, the question remains, if it really hurt companies when a ceo makes so much more money than the employees? it is shareholders who bear the cost of paying the ceos. one might think they have a rather strong interest in this limitation. reporter: where is this going to go? trump wants to deregulate. >> you probably remember the famous phrase from donald trump, his promise to drain the swamp. but now he wants to look into the role from obama and probably, not go on with it. there is more to come from this. reporter: good to talk to you
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from new york. germany might be one of the first beer-producing countries that springs to mind. but this year, mexico has done well. they are the world's fourth beer producer. >> the president was here in person for that occasion. for pena-nieto, it is a big step, since talk of building walls and border taxes. >> we have now exceeded beer production in germany, a country with a long history of brewing. we are the fourth biggest producer of beer in the world, but the biggest exporter. >> the investment from anheuser-busch will keep heineken, the second-largest brewer, at bay. and the yucatan peninsula will create many new jobs this year. >> we are celebrating the
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reyes: welcome to the show. illegal gold mining has created a pocket of poisonous destruction in the amazon forest 10 times the size of manhattan. the police have been cracking down on the small-time miners, destroying their crude camps and sometimes putting them in jail. but the amazon is a big place, and authorities say they can't keep up. illegal mining has helped make peru one of the world's largest exporters of gold. the miners claim they have no other work and must support their families. correspondent gerry hadden traveled to peru to spend time with them in the mines. this is what he found.
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