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before u unow than i do. >> and as wisconsin congress han paul ryan takes the gavel as speaker of the house, he says he'll run things dferently. >> have been timid too long. we h he to offer. >> dickerson: will he break gridlock on capitol hill? also talk to the number two democrat in the house, steny hoyer. and get the latest on the russian plane that crashed in egypt and killed 224. plus, we'll have roundtable to analyze all the news it's all ahead on "face the nation." good morning, welcome to "f"fe theation" i'm john dickersrs. we've got lot of political news to get to but we start with an update on what caused a russian airliner bound for st. petersburg from egypt carrying more than 200 passengers to crasasin the sinai peninsula early saturday. cbs news correspondent allan pizzj in cairo, do authorities have any idea what caused the cras >> the short answer to that is,
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no. speculation centered on mechanical and technical problem, the copilot's daughter has said that her father told her even before the plane took off that theheilots were concerned d ere was a problem. the plane took off in early hours of the morning, when it reached 31,000 feet and 400 noters the pot called air traffic controllers said he had a technical problem and wanted to make an emergency landing then flight traffic shows that the plane dropped about 3,000 feet to 28,000 and slowed from 400 to 93 knots then all contact was lost. now, immediately following that, the affiliate offered here claimed that they brought the plane down killing what they called russian crusaders as pay back for russian involvement in syria. however, that group is known to have missiles that are only capable of going 20,000 feet. so, that is sort of ruled out. what they cannonot r re out is
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possibility of a woman. interestingly, the search area has now been widened. it was initially all around the crash site where the wreckage is, but then today egyptian authorities said they found a body of a small child, a 5-year-old girl five miles from the crash site so they now widened the search area to nearly ten miles. you have to ask yourselel whyhy are bodies perhaps debris spread out that far. now the good news is that both flight date that recorder and the cockpit voice recorder have been recovered and there already looking into this which should give some clues also a russian recovery group has gone out to look at debris also to bring back bodies. the answers should come fairly soon but for now nobody really knows what happened. >> dicicrson: with the firstst pieces of the puzzle, thanks so much. and russian aviation official now saying the disintegration happened in the air we'll continue to monitor. turning to the race for the republican nomination, yesterday
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we sat down with florida senator marco rubio out on the campaign trail in des moines. senator, i want to start with the news this the united states sending 50 spepeal operations forces into syria, is that enough? >> well, it's an important start to what i think, from tactical perspective, broader iue, what is the strategy? has to involve more coordinationn with the kurds and sunnis. without robust anti-isis sunni coalition. i do think it's important tactical step forward,eeds to be backed up with increased airstrikes. i don't have problem with tactics of it. the numbers might even have to be larger at some point. but i think bigger issue can they arrive at strategy. that's why i think administration still struggling to o oline. >> dickerson: special forces in seary but the russians are also operating in syria do you worry there's any conflict there? >> there is always that potential. one of the things that concerns us is that there is airstrike of some sort that may end up hittttg forces that are americans embedded alongside,
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one of the issues that people concerning about miscalculation. but on the other hand, eyes will not be defeated unless they are confronted b b organized a ai- isis sunni movement that won't happen without american assistance of some significant level like what you're seeing >> dickerson: donaldldrump says letthe russians fight isis that's fine with us. >> the numbers russians aren't necessarily targeting isis, they're targeting non-isis rebels, part of effort to wipe out any non-isis fighters to turn to the world d y that the only choices are either assad or isis. second point is that the growth of isis will continue in iraq, they are spread into libya where they become significant presence degreesingly in a arage as well. they are using all these operating bases not to conduct regional efforts but to grow, recruit people online. >> dickerson: how mucucof the united stateteshould be worried about the russian presence in
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>> the goals are pry prayerly flee hold. putin wants to be viewed as important international leader on par of with the united states. part is deflecting attention away from ukraine. part is about becoming a regional power that replaces the united states in terms of the power broker in the region and its direction. the interests are to prop up assad who is provided for them a foothold into the region. so they are stepping into vacuum we left behind. ideal world you'd be able to work with rush that to delete jihaddists. >> dickerson: let's switch to talk about executive experience. in 2008 republicans running talking about democrara that were r rning, s sators running, barack obama, hillary clinton, constantly republicans say they never run as much at lemonade stand. they haven'toverned. why this does not apply to you now? >> first of all the presidency
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it's not glorified accounting job, the leader of the united states both as people and as nation and government. job ever a president is to craft a vision for america's future, to put the right people in the right position hold them accountable for carrying out your agenda but also to rally the country behind big causes, entitlement reform is huge undertaking, it will nevev happen without presidential leadership. not to mention national security. the context of barack obama he has now been president for seven years. he has significant executive experience and he's still making mistakes in my opinion. and so it's clear that the issue with him is not that he didn't have executive experience, it's that ideas do not work. and that's why i think it's important to elect someone to the presidency with the rightht ideas. ideas that allow private sector to succeed because that's where you get job creation and economic prosperity. also someone that understands the risks in the world today of what america's role needs to be. >> dickerson: i guess when? is obviously something your opponents are writtenning up,
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appeal says you have no credible experience beyond governing, the questions s ve you been in a popotion where you've had to make tough calls, where there are real consequences and where do you get that strength from, if you were to make the presidency where you have those decisions alalday long. >> the presidency not like being a u.s. senator. but it's not not like being governor. there is no office in the world. what i have then over last five years is judgment, good judgment, and undereranding of a major issues before america, particularly on foreign policy. i do not believe anyone else in this race that has shown better judgment on the issues before america today than i have and better understanding of them especially on the foreign policy realm. which is at the end of the date the most important obligation of a president. presidents don't run the economy. what you do promote policies that allow the private sector to succeed. >> dickerson: the bush campaign called y y the republican obama the is that insult or compliment? >> i don't think they mean it as compliment, i don't take it as that.
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someone convinced, jeb, thaha attacking me is going to help his campaign. it won't change the way we pin our campaign. we'll continue to give people serious cdidacy that is optimistic and realistic, about our future a a challenges and the direction that our countnt needs to be. that's what i'm going to focus on. someone else chooses to go in a different direction, i think it's one of the reasons why barack obama was reelected in 2012 because t manyandidates spent tremendous amount of time attacking fellow republicans and undermining mitt romney. i hope we don'tepeat that. >> you mentioned jeb bush in the debate this big moment beten the two off you, he mentioned your missing votes in the senate as constituent he wanted you to be there more. you came back at him not just on subject stabs, but you questioned his motives, you said, you're just doing it because you're advisors have told you. is there nothing genuine in his critique of you in your attendance. >> of having criticized anyone else in the past. the truth is i don't like
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missing votes. what i would hate to wake up on first wednesday of november to the news that hillary clinton has been elected president of the united states. we're going to continue to serve the people of florida. we do have i think very goooo job in office in their interracks with government. most certainly be there for most votes and many votes. there will be some i will miss. because m campaigning so that in the fure those votes actuallylyean something. far too many votes that are in the senate are predetermined we know what the out come is going to be. being done for message and purposes but never going to pass. because even if you could find enough votes to pass the president would veto it. when i become president we can turn some of these ideas into law, into policy. so when we're away that's what we're doing. >> dicrson: what jeb bush your mentor? >> he was a big part. i don't know about labels, most certainly big part of my career i have tremendous admiration. i said that at the debate. he was a great governor of florida, someone i have tremendous persona affectiti for. my issue is not with jeb bush.
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i believe that our party and country needs to turn the page allow people, new generation of leadership that understands the issues before america now. i know there are people running with more experience than i do on issues we face 17 years ago. but on issues before america today that's what we should be debating. i just don't believe there's ananne else running who has better understanding of the issues before us now than i do. >> dickerson: are people wrong who say that the reason it was such moment for you in the debate because you have this relationship, this friendship with him and you could basical call him onn his motives a a that that created this drama that everybody is talking about. people support you say you put jeb bush in his place. >> i don't know -- he said something i had to respond. i feel obviously what i said something that i believe. convinced by people around him that he needs to attack me in order to be more successful. i don't personally agree with it but i'm not running his campaign. what i control is my campaign. my campaign is not going to be attacking him orr any other republicans. if there are policy issues we
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should debate those. i'm not going to bad mouth other republicans. i want to be the nominee. someone on that stage will be the republican nominee i don't want to do anything that makak it easier for hillary clinton or whoever democrat nominee is to defeat the republican. because we truly as a nation, cannot afford another four years like the last eight. >> dickerson: let me ask you on the senate attendance question. in iowa, the senate campaign there, republican senatorial campaign ran bunch of ads against the democrats saying he missed a bunch ever votes. it was devastating for him. if it worked against democrat in that s ste that it could cause you any -- >> i'm not political strategist i'm candidate. i can tell you what i would hurt me more. never coming to iowa, people understand that if i do miss a vote it's not because m on vacacaon. it's's becausese'm here interacting with the voters in the hopes this they quill give pecans to be the republican nominee and president. again, unfortunately in the& senate today majority of votes that are taken are n n going to pass, they're being voted on for
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messaging purposes, important messaging purposes. i'm running for president so in the future when we vote to repeal obamacare or reallocate the money from planned parenthood to another entity we can turn that into policy and law. >> dickerson: thank you, senator marco rubio. to watch the interview check out our website facethenation.com. next up our talk with paul ryan. our clients have relied on us to bring our best t inking to their invnvtments so in a variety of market conditions... you can feel confident... ...in our experience. call a t. rowe price retirement specialist or your advisor ....o see how we can help make the most of your retirement savings. t. rowe price.
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>> dickerson: lasts week weeks of chaos rallied around a new leader. electing wisconsin republican paul ryan the new speaker of the house. 45-year-old is youngest speaker in nearly 150 years, we spoke to him in his office on friday. john boehner said of his tenure, came here to fight for smaller, less costly more accountable government. but i began to realize over the
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fight. i don't believe that. i think you can win this fight. i think if you offer the people of this nation who believe that the country is on the wrong track because it is, you offer them a bold alternative vision how to get this country back onment right track, how to fix our problems, how to reapply our founding principles, yes, i believe we can win this federal government give people the kind of freedom and opportunity for all that they deserve. >> dickerson: you said that you wantlto tackle issues head on, even the tough ones. first t der of business, immigration reform, going to tackle that? >> nice. i think it would be a ridiculous notion to try to work on an issue like this with the president we simply cannot trust. he tried to go it alone, circumvent can legislative process with his executive orders. so that is not in the cards. i think if we reach consensus on how w st tochieve border and interior enforcement security i think that's fine. but look, we've taken plenty of
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tactical risks here in congress, i think it's time we take some policy risks b b showing people whate reallyelieve, who we are and how we can fix this country's great problems. so, we have been timid too long in my judgment we had to offer people a bold agenda. >> dickerson: give me a policy risk. >> we should stay with the new tax code looks like. what obamacare replacement looks like. people don't like obamacare. members of congress don't. most in the majority we all vod against this. if you takaklook at thehe premiums, take a look at the fact that decisions are being taken away from patients and their doctors, people are starving for an alternative to this vision. >> dickerson: was there a cost to what that house has just gone through on the repeplican side? >> i don't think there was cost as much as it was growing pains. i think what we just experienced in the last couple of weeks was what was necessary to unify our ngress, to unify our party. basically four things i think we need to d. number one, get the house working like it was
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number two, we need to seek common grorod, we need to find common ground to advance the nation's interests and we can do so without compromising our princies. number three, i think it's incredibly important that we serve as effective opposition party, a check on the administration's power that leads me to the most important point, number four, we've got to be a bold alternative party. a proposition party. we don't like the dirececon the company is -- how we do things differently that's what we have to do in 2016. >> dickerson: the group of conservatives who o ught against john boehnerer the tactics he's using, they're too extreme but in the end republicans now voted for a speaker they really like, you. so isn't that validation of the tacticicof the -- >> these guys are good friends of mine. i am a movement conservative, people know that. i think it's important -- what we haven't done is offer a vision. we have not shown not only ourselves but the nation what is
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the horizon we're shooting for. what are the big ideas that we're going to champion. that's unifying. that's what we should rally around that to me means we should put apide the timid nature of not takingg risks on policy and show people why we should be trusted to lead in this nation to get us to a better day. >> dickerson: do you see this job as a leader where you say, here is whehe we're going everybody follows you or are you more of a facilitator, john boehner used to talk about working the wheel of the house. >> i was not elected dictator of the house i was elected speaker of the house. that means we do it in a bottom up approach. we reach consensus as republicans we have common principles we need to take those common principles 'ploy to the problems of the day through consensus s show the country a better way forward. it's my job to lead to that consensus but not to dictate that consensus. >> dickerson: one of the things you used to wrire about when you were budget chairman, seemss ages
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government was possibly smashing community in america. that's a bigger philosophical vision do you see youjob as speaker to make that case? >> i io see my job as speaker, i'm redesigning this job. i don't think it can work going forward like it's worked in the past. i can't pick up ere john left off. it has to be done differently. and my colleagueue agree with thatat i think that's one of the reasons why i was elected speaker. i do believe we have to be bold, we have to show who we are, what we believe. when you're asking abut communities i spent great deal of time and t tught about this. i think big government displaces civil society. big government makes it harder for communities to come together$& and heal our problems. so, that to me is incrediblbl important dialogue we're going to have to have whichs how do we poverty. reintegrating displaced communities so that people can build better lives for themselves.
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talked to addicts, talked to people down on their luck, you won't be able to do that? >> i'm to go keep d dng that because i think we need to go out in our communities and learn, learn from people who are successful at actually fighting poverty getting people back op their feet. i think we need another round of welfare reform to move peoplpl from welfare to work so that people can make the most of their lives i'm going to keep doing that. differently, still going to sleep in your office? >> i am. i just work here. i live ingansville, wisconsin. i work here from dawn until about midnight. i sleep in my office it's very convenient. >> dickerson: may hof to get the cigarette oke out. >> i'm going t t sleep in my gular offers. >> dickerson: you have young children. what did you tell them? >> we have lot of talks about this in the week building up to. this and i told them that i'm still going to be home on saturday and sunday like i always have been.
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what we do on saturdays i do my kids sporting events, sunday is family day that's not going to change. mine can go to commute back and forth to wisconsin every w wk. the way i look at this is don't you think that people in this country want citizen legislators. don't you think people in this country want their representative in congress living among them, understanding them. gointo the same kinds of trials and tribulations, raising families that they do. that to me is where citizen legislature should be like. i don't see myself changing. >> dickerson: will that change the way the house works? you're the first speaker to have little kids in a long time. >> electricity will make it much more efficient. it's a younger breed here in the house. when i came to congress i was the youngest person, i think we were 28 years old. there was is newer, younger breed of members from both sides of the aisle who have families anan so i think that that's a good thing. i think having new blood, young
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people here often fresh ideas is a good thing. i want to continue that kind of process. >> dickerson: anything else you've carved out that you say, i don't care what being speaker does i'm going to keep doing this. >> of course, i'm going to keep camping, mountain climbing, keep hunting. i told the security detail that human scent not good for b b huntntg. i won't go into details, but i have to keep life normal. i have to keep life real. i think they understand that. >> dickerson: have you got to the point yet where you've said, hey, t ts job that i maybe fun? >> i think i crossed over that -- crossed over to, no. to reluctant. to if i have to, to actually i exciting. the reason why i'm excited about this job is because i really believe we have an incredible opportunity to offer the people of this nation a better way forward, a very bold 'general d. this is what people dederve. most people in this country don't think we're headed in the right direction.
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that we ought to show people how we do things differently that's exciting. >> dickerson: tell me about the cross over moment. >> i don't know if it was a moment, this met mortician over few weeks, talking with my colleagues listening to my fellow republicans in congress about their concerns, their frustrations with the way things that have been done in the past what i realize asked, refleleed my own thinking, reflected my own frustrations with the way business has been done in congress. this is a new day, we're riping the slate clean. we're going too do things differently. >> dickerson: speaker ryan, thanks very much. we'll be right back to get reaction to all that have from democrat steny hoyer. (gasp) shark diving! xerox personalized employee rtals help companies make benefits simple and accessible... from anywhere. hula dancing? cliff jumping! human resources can work better.
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than john baner? >> i think as he pointed out a movement conservative, more ideological than john boehner. very enthusiastic and perhaps not as wise ened as john boehner was because he went t tough some of the battles. but he has a lot of ability. he wants to do well. he wants to lead the congress in a way that is effective. the fact is, though, it wasn't the speakership that was broken, it was a deeply divided dysfunctional republican party and that remains. it remains a party that has a very, very strongng ideological bent not only inside but outside. and the outside influences constrain what i think are the majority of reasonable pragmatic republicans which is why frankly the ryan budgets which sets forth his visions of what he
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