murk hurricane matthew strong er overnight. florida faces what could be the largest evacuation in state history. another nsa contractor is accused of stealing classified u.s. secrets. the justice department says the theft could cause exceptionally grave damage to national security. we'll talk with donald trump's running mate, governor mike pence and kick off issues that matter. senator lindsey graham up first

challenges in russia, syria and north korea. >> we begin by looking at today's i would opener. your world in order. get out now. >> i've already been to three gas stations that are out of gas. >> hurricane matthew marches towards the u.s. >> landfall, landfall, landfall. that is about the worst case scenario. >> millions of people are under military or volun evacuation. >> you can always restore property but you cannot restore life. >> a man allegedly stealing classified information. >> do you more snowden's out there working in the federal government? >> i didn't think but not until today. >> i was getting a lot of credit because that was my first high. >> pence just bobbed and weave because trying to defend donald trump is an possible trump. >> momentous occasion for the

countries signaled they are ready for the paris agreement. >> this gives us the best shot we have got to save a planet. >> spectacular launch blue origin successfully tested its crew escape system. touchdown. >> donald trump spent part of teachers day visiting a first grade class in las vegas. honest family is going t first one over the wall! >> all that matters. >> what was the biggest perk of being a kid at the white house? >> hide and go seek. definitely hide and go seek. >> it seems like the secret service's worst day. you guys know there is 30, 13-year-old hidden all over the place, try not to be too skittish. >> everyone is saying mike pence did. >> he had a solid debate performance last nichght.

the ticket. >> did you see the size of his hands? they are massive! they are massive! announcer: this portion of "cbs 90 seconds. >> here's a look this morning where gusts have been slamming the islands popular with tourists. 39 deaths in the caribbean are blamed on the storm. millions of americans have been told to evacuate. flights and train services have been canceled. >> the storm is forecast to becme a category 4 hurricane later today and move north along the southeastern coast of the

carolinas to florida and the bahamas. bahamas, georgetown, to show >> snapshots show the storm's power. homes damaged. streets covered in debris, trucks tossed on their the wind is slicing through the bahamas as the storm gets closer to the shore. beaches are empty. homes are boarded up. and here most of the people are without electricity. as the storm approached from the south, nassau resident evacuated her home and went to a shelter.

devastating power of matthew. buildings are nearly destroyed. many roofs were ripped clean off. they struggle to cross a river where a bridge used to be. the haitian government has suspended presidential elections that were scheduled for sunday. the u.s. government has sent experts to haiti to assess the damage and is offering $1 million in food assistance. along with of nonfood items like blankets and temporary shelters for haiti, jamaica and the bahamas. american military forces arrived to help with the relief efforts. matthew decimated eastern cuba leveling homes and filling streets with mud and debris. like many in the caribbean, residents have now started a

more than 1.5 million people >> more than 1.5 million people in florida have been urged to evacuate as the state prepares for a possible direct hit there. overnight hurricane warning and watch zones expanded northward as rain began to reach florida. a hurricane warning is in place for florida's atlantic coast and into georgia. a hurricane watch extends north well into south carolina and >> reporter: there's a state of emergency here. 1500 national guard troops have been called up to assist here. the wind is starting to pick up speed. matthew is expected to batter the coastline with up to 10 inches of rain and winds over 100 miles per hour. storm preparations are in full

coast. >> that's the reason i'm trying to make sure everything is good. >> store shelves are empty. gas stations have run out of fuel. >> i've been to three gas stations that have shut down because they're out of gas. >> and businesses are boarding up to protect them from the high winds and heavy rain matthew is expected to bring. >> now that there's a little bit of a higher chance for us to get hit, it's time to be 100% prepared. rick scott said the evacuation could be the largest florida has ever seen. >> you know you're going to be evacuate. don't wait to evacuate. get out now. it could be the decision between life and death. >> the last time florida took a direct hit was by wilma in 2005. a storm that caused nearly $17 billion in damage in south florida alone. as matthew approaches, air

coming to a halt. the storm has already forced more than 1,600 flights to be canceled through tomorrow. charlie? >> thanks. south carolina is expected to start feeling the storm's effect by tomorrow night. about a half million people have been ordered to evacuate. we go to charleston with a huge exodus and preparations. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. this is one of historic downtown charleston's as you can see, it is all boarded up and this is just one of the 10,000 sandbags which have been filled and distributed daily. folks here just want to be ready. we watched as residents and businesses boarded up their properties before heading out evacuating from the coastline. governor nikki haley is taking every precaution in ordering this mandatory evacuation. we watched the main route out of

vehicles so in order to reduce congestion, they reversed the eastbound section that created a six lane freeway for thousands of people to get from charleston to columbia in addition to the safe network of existing evacuation routes. if you don't have a vehicle, they made preparations for you. a fleet of more than 300 school buses has been brought in to shuttle people to m shelters across the state and there are 1,100 national guardsmen on standby. we are now in the hurricane watch zone means people here are as prepared as possible. >> errol, thank you. cameras aboard the internet space station show the scape of hurricane matthew. lonnie quinn is tracking where the storm is heading. >> good morning, everybody.

let's get straight to the most recent information that we have from the national hurricane center. satellite imagery shows we lost the eye but now it's starting to show signs of coming back. the storm is getting stronger. 125 miles per hour and last night 115 miles per hour. 60 miles to the south/southeast of nas kaw. today for the baems athen the s coast after florida and makes a big drop tth even the realm of possibility it couldn't do a loop-to-loop out there. a possible landfall around west palm and staying and hugging along the shore line and the shore line like i said of georgia, south carolina. pushing out to sea somewhere around north carolina. it's going to be everything. rain, wind, the surge. 6 to 10 inches of rain. the surge is going to be big and the only saving grace here is the further you can get away from the shore line because the hurricane force wind field is

shore precipitously. you'll be better as far as the tough winds from the shore. >> not a pretty picture. thank you very much. the national security agency is under new scrutiny this morning after another alleged jert breach by a contractor. harold martin is accused of stealing top secret information from the nsa. the fbi arrested him in august and he is charged with stealing classified information. he worked for the same agency that employed eric snowden. >> reporter: the investigation began in august after sensitive nsa information about u.s. hacking tools ended up online even though they have a suspect in custody, law enforcement sources say investigators are still not confident that all of

would have had top secret security clearance. the. >> we must ensure whistle blowers can act again. >> reporter: the company is facing its second major black

hired edward snowden. snowden released thousands of documents releasing the nsa's controversial surveillance program. after snowden's leak, they strengthened their program for detecting insider threats. in a statement, house intelligence committee measure adam schiff called the breach distressing and that the intelligence community has much to do to nation's sources and methods from insider threats. >> what can happen is you have amazing defenses to protect your intellectual property but you forget to have a program where you watch those that you trust. fired martin immediately once it learned of his arrest and is cooperating with this arrest. martin's record shows a past misdemeanor charge for computer harassment in 2003 which was

donald trump and hillary clinton are starting to focus on sunday's second presidential debate. both sides claim victory in tuesday's vice presidential debate. but trump and his running mate mike pence say they got a bigger boost. nancy cordes looks at the rematch. >> reporter: one of trump's roughest weeks in nevada. ed pence's performance how great his own judgment was for choosing pence for a running mate. >> didn't mike pence do a great job? >> some people think i won. >> reporter: mike pence and donald trump did a victory lap through three battleground states on wednesday. >> from where i sat, donald trump won that debate. >> reporter: trump praised pence and himself. >> mike pence did an incredible job and i'm getting a lot of

that was my first hire, as we would say in las vegas. >> reporter: in philadelphia, tim kaine laughed off critics who said his performance was a little too fiery. >> the debate was a little feisty, i got to admit, i am irish. >> reporter: he admitted he might have got a little carried away. >> i got dinged by my wife for interrupting too much. >> reporter:. >> i can't imagine how you can defend your running mate's stand up for trump's position. >> at some points i felt like me and mike pence were debating donald trump. >> reporter: hillary clinton chimed in from a fund-raiser in washington, d.c. >> when your own running mate won't defend the top of the ticket, i think that tells you everything you need to know. >> reporter: clinton campaign aides say there is no second-guessing about kaine's aggressive strategy. they argue their main goal was to show that trump's own running mate can't back his views on muslims, on women, on foreign

kaine achieved that. >> thanks, nancy. republican vice presidential candidate mike pence will join us in our next hour. donald trump is bashing hillary clinton by quoting her husband. campaigning in nevada, trump repeatedly brought up former president bill clinton's comment that obamacare is a crazy system. major, good morning. >> reporter: donald trump is often described by hillary clinton's clinton as the gift that keeps on giving. well, now trump world is saying the exact same clinton, particularly his take-down this week of the affordable care act's reduced coverage and higher premiums for some middle class americans. >> bill called it a system, a crazy system. and said that it's the craziest thing in the world. this is him. this isn't trump. this is bill clinton. >> reporter: donald trump, on wednesday, quoted bill clinton's critique of president obama's health care law as if he wished

>> the people are busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week and wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. the craziest thing in the world. >> reporter: promising to repeal the affordable care act, trump offered few details about how he >> there is only one way to stop obamacare and that to vote for donald j. trump. i'll stop it. >> reporter: hillary clinton argued her husband was echoing her own calls for reform while bill tried to clean up the mess. >> it's been a tough the last year. for small businesses who were a little bit above the eligibility for any help from the government. >> oh, did bill clinton blow it? whoa. did he ever. >> reporter: for now, trump is reveling in the thought of bill in the dog house. >> can you imagine when he walked home to that beautiful home in westchester and he said, ah, hillary, how was your day?

>> reporter: trump wrapped up a brief western state swing with three stops in nevada, where he trails clinton by six points in the most recent poll. in reno, trump tried to school supporters on how to pronounce? >> nevada. nobody says it the other way. it has to be nevada. right? >> reporter: it's actually pronounced nevada and nevadians i once was one defend that pronunciation somewhat zealou zealously. trump is a invitational town hall tonight in new hampshire a state clinton has led comfortably since the conventions. >> thank you for pointing that out. when i have mispronounced nevada on the air i have gotten a slew of e-mails for that and tweets. thank you for that. >> you're welcome. sunday's coverage of the town hall debate will begin at 8:00 central/9:00 eastern here on cbs. >> we now how to pronounce is because major was one. i like that.

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warnings. this is a big deal. this is very, very serious. and so we are going to continue to bring you updates throughout the day. >> it's important to stress and i hope if they tell you to evacuate, you do. there is always somebody who says i can ride this out. take it very seriously. welcome back to "cbs this morning.? coming up, a samsung phone forces the evacuation of a southwest plane after smoke pours out in the cabin. passengers said the phone started popping in his pocket and it was turned off. how this raises questions about a why would you mention justice stephen breyer and kim kardashian in the same breath? he used the robbery of her jewels to make a point during a supreme court argument pup you're going to tell what he told charlie about this ahead. time to show you some of the morning's headlines from around the globe. "the washington post" reports that the paris climate treaty will go into force next month. the historic deal crossed a key threshold. it now has the backing of

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he also wrote "boogie nights." we will be paying rod tempton's songs throughout this broadcast to honor him. >> "rock with you" is one of my favorites too. >> it's danceable. federal investigators this morning are looking for noointo samsung phone who overheated on board a southwest plane. kris van cleave is at reagan national airport outside of washington with the owner's troubling story. >> reporter: good morning. the federal aviation administration has been telling passengers if they have a samsung galaxy note 7 to turn it off when they are on a plane. the flight crew had just made this announcement on this baltimore bound southwest 737 when a passenger realized something was wrong. >> just smoke and popping and sizzling sounds. >> reporter: brian green says that noise was coming from the galaxy note 7 he had tucked into his pocket after trying to power it down.

popping that sounded like a zip lock bag popping up and looked around to see what that was and there was smoke pouring out of my pocket and billowing out of my pocket. >> reporter: crews evacuated flight 994 as it sat at the gate at louisville international airport. the feds have long been weary of the danger of malfunctioning lithium ion batteries. a recall last month of about a million samsung phones in the u.s. alone and 92 reports of batteries overheating and burning 26 people and damaging property at least 55 times. >> we are moving aggressively to investigate this incident. >> reporter: the head of cpsc says it's looking into green's claim that the device that overheated was a replacement for the phone he turned in as part of the recall. green showed us the serial number, according to samsung's website is not among the list of

and has to be verifiverified. there has to be other remedies including a refund. >> reporter: dan ackerman calls the latest incident worrisome. >> if it is a replacement phone it shows the replacement models have a same or similar problem or may be entirely new problem. and that could happen when you rush so many replacement phones into the market in such a short period of time. >> reporter: for now, brian green is samsung phone. >> it's just scary to think that i could have been driving and this happened. someone could have had this in their luggage on the plane under the plane and it could have been a lot worse. >> reporter: in a statement to "cbs this morning," samsung says it's working with authorities and southwest to recover the device and figure out the cause but says because it has not examined the phone, it cannot confirm if it is, in fact, a new note 7.

meetings at samsung. it normally takes years for a case to reach a the supreme court this year's kim kardashian's case is in the highest court in the land. justice stephen breyer brought it up when a lawyer could not be accused of bank fraud. >> ed even if kardashian's thief believe that j i asked the justice about that yesterday during a conversation here in new york. did you ever, did you ever, ever, did your wife, ever, ever, ever, think that your name would be in the same sentence with kim kardashian? >> this comes about through teaching, you know? when you're teaching, what you do is you want to give an example that the class is going to remember.

>> reporter: oh, no. >> i've said a lot worse things than that and it's because i want an illustrious point and not watch every two seconds what i'm saying but i want the lawyer to get the point that i'm making so i'll get an answer out of that lawyer. when you have a conversation going in a courtroom, and it is, you know, right on the merits, people not taking poses or positions, you can make a lot of progress. charlie. >> they will, indeed. the point, obviously, was he views this interrogation of a lawyer as a teachable moment and he wanted to make the point that if, in fact, it had come up in legal argument, there was no loss. can there be a theft? and maybe in this case he was trying to say to the lawyers, thee insured jewels may have been insured and more, and, in fact, if that was true and there was no economic loss, was there

>> kim kardashian would say, yes, my big ring is gone. there was a theft. that would be her argument. >> we have a bigger ring then. >> that is true. that is true. >> very interesting. one gigantic football team isn't so big, it is dominate. other teams are afraid to take field. >> i don't care what people say. it's our safety and concerned about that. >> how player safety take us with you on the go. that's right. we invite you to subscribe to our new "cbs this morning" podcast. you'll get the news of the day, extended interviews, and podcast originals. find them all on itunes and apple's podcast app. we are excited about our on podcast. >> i like it that people can get us all sorts of places. in case you got other stuff to do. make it easy for you.

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violent sport, but we play the game the right way. >> reporter: but the size and strength of arch bishop players has some schools and parents worried their teams will get crushed, literally. >> the kids were concerned about going against a team that was much larger, much more physical. >> reporter: granite falls high school forfeited tomorrow's game against the wildcats. it's the third team to bow out this season. >> i don't care what other people think. it's our safety and we are playing, not them. >> reporter: granite falls has just one football weighs 250 pounds. arch bhishop murphy have six, including three who weigh 300 pounds. >>ic like putting a vw bug up against a mack truck. >> reporter: her son is asafety on the team. >> if those players get hurt, the rest are freshmen and sophomores. it's definitely a safety issue and strategic. >> reporter: there are growing

bishop murphy to play in a higher division. critics argue the private catholic school has an advantage because it can draw bigger players around the region and something public schools can't do. >> we have kid that come here for a whole variety of reasons. we have great academics here and we have great programs and to be perceived as a school recruiting these huge kids, it's just not relate. >> reporter: wednesday, the wildcats worry their jerseys to a school press conference, hoping the next timehe be suiting up for an actual game. >> as a team, we do miss football and that is the bottom line. >> reporter: arch bishop murphy has three more games scheduled this month. we have contacted all of those schools and, so far, norah, the one we have heard back from still plans on taking the field. >> really interesting story. carter, thank you so much. jeff bezos' latest rocket test goes better than he

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? ? it is thursday, october 6th, 2016. welcome back to "cbs this morning.? there is more real news ahead, including the very dangerous hurricane matthew heading right towards florida. the latest on the killer storm that threatens to cause billions first, here's a look at today's "eye opener" at 8:00. the wind is slicing through the bahamas. beaches are empty. homes are boarded up. >> matthew is expected to batter the coastline with up to 10 inches of rain and winds over 100 miles per hour. we watched as residents and businesses boarded up their properties before heading out, evacuating from the coastline. >> it's going to be everything. the rain. the wind, the surge.

>> investigators are still not confident that all of the u.s. secrets harold martin allegedly stole have been accounted for and recovered. >> after one of trump's roughest weeks in nevada, trump says pence's performance showed how great his own judgment was. >> trump world is saying the same thing about bill. >> federal investigators are looking into a samsung phone that overheated and forced the evacuation of a passenger jet. >> there is an o s says the russian bear never dies, just hibernates. >> this could be the biggest trump campaign scandal since melania talked about the ancient proverbs of michelle obama. announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by liberty mutual insurance. the death toll from

the storm's outer bands begin to lash florida. matthew grew stronger overnight and on track to reach florida late today as a category four hurricane. forecasts show it moving up the coast and reaching south carolina tomorrow. about 2 million people in florida and south carolina have been urged to evacuate as the state braces for matthew. 39 deaths in the caribbean are blamed on this storm. the powerful category three hurricane is hammering the bahamas right now with sustained winds up to 125 miles an hour. it is delivering about a foot of rain in massive storm surge in haiti. the devastating storm has leveled homes and flooded streets and killed dozens of people. chief weather caster lonnie quinn of new york station wcbs is watching the storm's path. >> good morning, everybody. we talk about how the storm strengthened. now the wind are blowing at 125. 11:00 last night, 11.

per hour. right now 30 miles or less to south/southwest of nassau in the bahamas. it's all about the florida coast. then the georgia and south carolina coasts. look at this. anywhere from west palm beach to jacksonville a little wobble and you would have a landfall. so where do you go with this system? the wind field for the hurricane force winds is about 40 get 40 miles. say it's in melbourne you need to be in orlando to get out of the hurricane force winds. does a big turn and eventually pushes out to sea after it flirts with the south carolina coast and maybe even portions of the north carolina coast. hurricane warnings are in effect for all of the atlantic coastline in florida and if you go north of that it's a hurricane watch into portions of georgia. we got our eye on this. let's go back to you, charlie. >> lonnie quinn, thanks. you can get around the clock

our streaming new service cbsn. they will be up through the storm. you can get cbsn on your mobile devices through the cbs news app and we are on apple tv and even on playstation. donald trump says mike pence won tuesday's vice presidential debate and he took credit for his running mate's performance and hailing his own judgment in choosing pence but some of pence's responses to past comments made by trump do not hold up. >> donald trump and i would never support legislation that punishedom heartbreaking choice to end a pregnancy. >> punishment for abortion, yes or no, as a principle? >> the answer is that there has to be some form of punishment. >> for the woman? >> yeah, some form. >> donald trump has said it deportation force. they want to go house-to-house, school-to-school, business-to-business and kick out 16 million people and i cannot believe -- >> you're going to have a deportation force and you're going to do it humanly. >> more nations should get

try to defend that. >> he never said that. >> agree to have nuclear weapons? >> at some point we have to say you know what we are better off if japan protects itself against this maniac in north korea and better off frankly if south korea starts to protect itself. >> saudi arabia? >> saudi arabia? absolutely! >> governor pence is with us from gettysburg, pennsylvania. good morning, governor. >> good morning, all. >> some have said as they looked at your performance, they have praised your performance in the debate. they have also strategy -- >> thank you. >> -- was to deflect, to deflect, rather than defend your running mate. >> well, first, before i respond to that, let me thank you for all of the attention that this program and the network is paying to the approaching hurricane. our hearts go out to those families who lost loved ones in haiti and our hearts and our

we certainly encourage people to support the red cross and other efforts that are very likely going to have to step forward in the hours and the days ahead. but i will tell you, charlie, i was very humble, very honored to be on that stage to tell the story about donald trump's vision to make america great again. and it was my great privilege to go out and to be honest with you i know some people said i won the debate and i'll leave that to others but i honestly believe that donald trump won the debate. it was donald trump's vision to make america great again. it was the donald trump's aspiration for this country, the policies he has been articulating that i carried forward. >> he said it was -- >> i also saw a contrast in this debate. as i said, it was a privilege for me to be there. >> governor pence, he is claiming credit and said his good judgment in choosing you as his first hire. do you think that is an example of good judgment and are you giving him any pointers?

>> look. obviously, i'm humbled by his esteem and the kind word by others. i think the reason donald trump has built an extraordinary business, an extraordinary career is because he -- he has had the judgment to make it through tough times. you saw those tax releases that came out from 20 years ago. he faced enormous losses in his business. he led an incredible comeback. he did that by drawing around hi extraordinary ability and enterprise and i think it's exactly the kind of judgment and exactly the kind of people that he is going to bring around him if we have the privilege of serving in the next administration. >> you said that in the debate you were speaking about donald trump's vision. however, you guys differ on a number of policy issues so let me ask you specifically about those issues. specifically, on the topic of immigration. mr. trump said that he has supported a deportation task

do you also support that? >> well, that came up in the debate. it was quite striking to me that this -- all this talk about a deportation force. we have a deportation force in this country. it's called immigrations and customs enforcement. and for the first time in the history of immigrations and customs enforcement, their union endorsed donald trump to be the next president of the united states of america because they know he has -- he has a plan to end illegal immigration, beginning with border security and strengthening internal enforcement through immigrations and custom and identifying and removing from this country aliens and bringing crime to our streets and removing people from this country that the law requires leave after they overstay their visa. and then saying once we have done all of that, let's reform our immigration system and i'll tell you, there is no daylight

i truly do believe the american people long for us to end illegal immigration. we have talked about it for decades. let's do it and let's do it in the order that donald trump described. >> governor, let me ask you about aleppo. aid groups say their situation there is dire. there are a hundred thousand children trapped inside aleppo without food, water, or aid. would you support using u.s. war planes to enforce a zone a no-fly zone so aid trucks could >> well, donald trump and i have consistently called for the establishment of safe zones under, you know, under the umbrella of international approval and we have to act. i mean, the fact that you had the assad regime with the russians in the wake of the

you point to the hundreds of thousands of children. we have to act now to establish and protect those safe zones and when i was talking to the other night in the debate, i said, look, we absolutely should be prepared to use military force to establish and preserve the safe zones and the ability to people to safely evacuate out of those areas. we can't stand idly by. >> your running mate, the top of the ticket said, quote, i would have stayed out of syria. you guys have a different position on this issue. >> well, i think -- i think donald trump has been very, very clear about his -- his view of -- of the syrian situation. first a reset with russia, a total failure under hillary clinton's as secretary. president obama said he would draw a red line if syria ever

>> to be exactly clear, governor pence,i think the issue about ultimate military force. i want to be -- forgive me. forgive me you and donald trump agree you and donald trump would use u.s. military force to bomb assad forces and to enforce a no-fly zone. absolute agreement between the two of you? >> well, where there is absolute agreement is we have to establish safe zon to be able to get out of harm's way in aleppo and if you don't back that up with military resources and our allies in the region, then you can't really guarantee that people in and those hundred thousand children will be out of harm's way. syria has imploded into a civil war and isis is headquartered in syria.

and -- >> let me ask you. >> that's why we need change. >> so we understand you exactly, governor. whether in syria or not, this is a humanitarian crisis. a no-fly zone is one thing and a safe zone is something else. which are you suggesting? >> it is. >> that you do not favor a no-fly zone but you favor a safe zone? >> well, charlie, i th things. donald trump has been very consistent in saying we should establish a safe zone in the region working with our allies in the region so that people have a way to get out of aleppo and out of harm's way in syria. and whether that -- you establish a no-fly zone or whether you go beyond that with military force, i think that would have to be a real-time decision by our commander in chief.

lines and faining resets with russia and wringing our hand and saying as the secretary of state recently said we are out of talks with russia, all the while the leader of russia, you know, flexing his muscles, expanding his influence in the region. the united states of america needs to be there for those suffering families in aleppo and, at the same time, we need to continue to focus our resources as donald trump has on destroying isis at its source. it's headquartered in syria and when donald trump becomes the president of the u.s. we will put the safety and security of the american people first but also be there to provide humanitarian relief and support for people that are coming under the brutal, brutal results of this kind of action. >> all right, governor pence, we thank you. we have to leave it there. unfortunately, we are out of time. senate armed service committee member lindsay graham is here.

in the next half hour, he will help us kick off our new series called "issues that matter." we will talk more about syria and russia and other international hot spots. first, it's time to check your local weather. good morning we will have a cloudy day today temperatures in the mid-70s cloudy skies and scattered showers and thunder as we go to afternoon and evening. we will clear out overnight and through friday morning sunshine by the afternoon. wendy and 60 on saturday 70 announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by liberty mutual insurance. see car insurance in a whole new

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simulcast on the nfl network. >> the earlier, the better on this show we say. welcome back to "cbs this morning.? coming up in this half hour, we are launching a new series. we are excited about it called "issues that matter." our first issue is foreign policy so we have senate armed service committee member senator

57. we will get his take on where donald trump and hillary clinton stand on challenges that the u.s. faces from countries like russia and iran. time to show you some of the morning's headlines from around the globe. "wall street journal" stays the controversial blood testing company announced layoffs. more than 40% of its employees will be let go, about 340 people. they will close all of its blood testing facilities. earlier this year federal regulators imposed sanctions and foll company's blood testing operations and operations and they will focus now on developing products that can be sold to outside labs. "time" reports on the first wound transplants from living donors. four women used uterus transplants last month in dallas. despite the setbacks the head surgeon calls it a breakthrough. we are launching a new

their nuclear program and the world blaming us. >> senator lindsey graham has been critical of both presidential candidates. the member of the senate armed services committee is with us now. >> good morning. what are you trying to put issues in this campaign? >> well, there has been a lot of folks on personality. >> really? >> let's talk, first, you heard our conversation earlier with governor pence. >> yeah. >> on the issue of syria. what is the best hope to try and save the people of aleppo? what should the united states be doing? >> there are three things. how do you stop the flow of people out of syria. one being slaughtered and going to europe and eventually coming here. a safe haven or no-fly zone. i think they are the same, actually.

people don't get slaughtered, they can go somewhere where they would be protected so here is the test of us. if if we say there is a safe haven there what happens when in a syrian helicopter comes toward it? do we shoot it down? >> a difference in it because is there a difference in terms of creating safe havens away from a place in terms of like aleppo and the turks and everybody else say we want safe zones. >> i think the issue is -- >> too. >> i think the enforcement. are we planes flying over syria to enforce that? will the obama administration has said no. governor pence has suggested he would do that but unclear what senator kaine -- >> hillary clinton said she would have a safe zone. look at this way. charlie, a safe zone has to be enforced so if a syrian helicopter or russian jet comes into this region bombing what they consider to be terrorists and we consider to be victims if

what i heard today was new to me quite frankly and encourage. it seems that donald trump and mike pence are more robust when it comes to getting involved and protecting people and creating safe zones inside of syria meaning they would take on the russians and -- >> and shoot down russian air plains? >> you're not willing to do that it's not a safe zone. the russian we believe would not bomb. it's all about attitude. the one thing the next president has to deal with is north korea. i think the next president would be poorly viewed in history if they allowed the north koreans to develop a missile that would hit our homeland. >> what considers you mow, north korea? >> north korea and missile program concern me the most. two unstable regimes. one has nuclear weapons and one is trying to get them. what would happen in terms of game-changer if theyed the capability to hit the homeland. i think the next president needs to tell the north koreans if you

that could hit the west coast of the united states, we will stop you. we need to tell the iranians if you continue to developed icb technology in violation of u.n. resolutions we will not not only sanctions. the worst possible thing is allow rogue machine and unstable elements to deliver weapons. >> you say the next president of the united states should be willing to attack north korean nuclear facilities? >> yes. >> if they continue with the program? >> because if you're notil allow flnorth korea to have the ability to attack us. who in their right mind believes that kim jong-un should launch a missile to the west coast of the united states or maybe even deeper? i think that is a nonstarter for the united states and here is the good news. if he believed we would knock out his program, he would stop. if iran believed we would reimpose sanctions or come after them if they tried to keep

if the russians believe we would actually shoot their planes down, they wouldn't bomb the safe havens. >> you're saying they don't believe the united states would do that? >> nobody does. >> nobody would use force? >> yeah. i think hillary clinton would have a more -- i think -- i would believe her and i hope what i heard today is encouraging from the trump/pence side but i believe that hillary clinton would use military force to protect a safe haven inside of syria and today what i heard was encouraging. the encouraging conversation we are having at "the new york times" first raised this issue vladimir putin is taking advantage of the presidential election knowing that there won't be action in order to continue what he is doing in syria and in other places. what do you see about putin's threat to u.s. national -- >> between now and january when the next president is inaugurated i say land grab in syria and the complete destruction of aleppo and we want peace after they get

you'll see an all-out assault on aleppo and maybe some of the baltic areas might be under threat. the iranians and the north koreans can't develop the technology i'm talking about between now and january but in the next president's term, in the fedex four years between 20 and 24, if the necks president doesn't put iran and north korea in a box in terms of their missile xant, we will live to regret it. >> what should be the u.s. position with vladimir putin? during the debate, we heard mike pence say he is bullying leader and we have heard donald trump indicate he would like to work with putin and things that he actually likes vladimir putin. >> all i can say is that schizophrenia you see is a little bit disturbing to me. i see putin as a dictator. he has destroyed every semblance of democracy in his own country and the biggest weapons supplier to ayatollah in terms of air capability. what i would do it putin is say you will be judged by your behavior and i would take him on in syria.

train people to fight back against assad because he is a butcher of damascus and no arab will allow assad to stay in power because he is a proxy of rein and if assad stays in power -- we will take a rocket back from isil and they are going to go after assad and if you bomb the people we train, we will -- that will be a confrontation between us and russia. if you're not willing to support th >> be more specific. >> okay. >> what would you do if, in fact, they are bombing the people that we support? because they are doing that now. >> i would shoot them down. >> beyond that? >> the plane is down but what else would you do in terms of confrontation with russia? >> we keep protecting the people we train. two threats in syria that matter to us. assad being in power gives yet another arab capital to the iranians. the rairanians up to no good an

ends if he stays in power because no arab nation and the people in syria will not accept him as their leader. so if the russians and iranians bent on keeping him in power i side with the syrians. get a regional force together to go after assad and after you destroy isil. >> do you believe the history will judge this administration hashly because of what happened in the middle east? >> i think they are giving the next president a lot of headaches. nothing i said is easy. and if i sorry. i know two things about syria for sure, that to destroy isil you have to take the land away from them and hold it. the people we are training, the kurd do not have the ability to destroy isil and rocket syria because they are not arabs. i know this. there is no military pressure on assad at this moment to make him leave. i want to create military pressure so a political solution and without military pressure

campaign choosing donald trump or ted cruz would be like getting shot or getting poisoned. we are now here with donald trump. what are your thoughts in one sentence? >> oh. >> shot or poison? >> how do you feel? >> too early. >> it's too early? >> it's too early to tell whether it's shot or poison. here is what i do know. if he ding sgoing to be president of the united states he needs to up his game. putin is not our friend but what i heard about syria is encouraging. i wish you would ask secretary still support a no-fly zone and would you use military force to stop north korea for developing a missile that hit our homeland? ask trump and clinton that at the next debate. would you use military force to stop the development of a missile by north korea that could hit america? because i'm dying to hear what they would say about that. >> thank you, senator graham. >> the people of south carolina. >> i pray for the people in south carolina and florida and everybody else. >> small talk with a stranger.

ahead, some tips on how you can banter with people like your barista or your dog walker. you know you want to have a conversati good morning we will have a cloudy day today temperatures in the mid-70s cloudy skies and scattered showers and thunder as we go to afternoon and evening. we will clear out overnight and ro wendy and 60 for saturday, 65 wendy and 60 for saturday, 65 on saturday 70 you've worked hard. retirement's within reach,

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>> golf. stock market. dave matthews. >> what es? >> small things. peas, ball bearings, dimes. >> no. >> that adds to a conversation. >> sex. >> sex always works too. gave us unique ideas for small talk. research indicates such banner could have advantages. "wall street journ "wall street journal" published small talk and it can contribute to day-to-day well-being and greats sense of belonging and happiness. on the elevator the other day, ten of us and nobody is saying a word. when you're talking about interactions what do you mean? >> the research shows that small and, you know, just talking with your barista or the person next to you on the train or the guy who walks their dog at the same time you do every day those small interactions contribute to our well-being.

>> no, not a long conversation. the researchers looked at strong ties with relationships we have if our families and compare it to the small interactions and these make us such as happy. >> why is it important for our children to see us having these conversations? >> children learn kindness and empathy not how we treat the people closest to us but how we treat strangers they are not invisible and we appreciate the waitress and say thank you to the bus driver and it opens up their circle of compassion and caring. essential. it shows people you're paying attention to them. >> that is right. one of the tips experts gave us don't be a backboard. we are taught to regurgitate what we hear. work like a trampoline and add depth to the conversation if you have time. >> 10/5 rule too? >> it's used in hotels. they are ten feet away make eye contact and five feet away, say

questions? >> yes. a way of making people of small talk think it's boring or useless. but you can ask interesting questions. you can -- don't talk about yourself and what you know. find something out that you don't know. >> amen. >> and if you're sitting on the train and next to somebody who works in energy you could say i have no idea how wind power works. talk to me about that and you can learn something and y g them talking. >> that could be a long conversation! >> you have interest in that, right? >> exactly right. >> finally, on this note. how do you exit gracefully? >> instead of saying nice to meet you, okay. you can send a signal since we only have a couple of minutes left, i want to ask you one thing.

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