. tonight on "nightline," guilty as charged. michael jackson's doctor, conrad murray, is convicted of manslaughter. >> we find the defendant guilty. >> bringing emotional reaction from the pop star's family. >> michael was watching over us. >> and from his fans on the street. we have the very latest. american legends. in an exclusive joint interview leonardo dicaprio and clint eastwood talk about life behind the scenes and their epic take of one of the most powerful and controversial americans. and dirt, tear, glory. with moms' cheers in their ears these buckaroos have a taste of the sir kurt and tonight we go mutton busting.

good evening, i'm bill weir. guilty is the verdict tonight in the trial of michael jackson's doctor, conrad murray, convicted of involuntary manslaughter in the star's death almost 2 1/2 years ago. after six weeks of hearing evidence, it took the jury just under nine hours to decide that murray's action had cost jackson his life. and here's abc's jim avila in los angeles with the latest. jim? >> reporter: bill, the houston cardiologist brought to los angeles at a whopping $150,000 a month to try to put michael jackson to sleep tonight sleeps in the los angeles county jail. conrad murray, a friend and personal doctor to one of the most famous men in the world found guilty of killing his one and only patient. michael jackson's parents, two of his sister, two of his brothers rushing to court with

high hopes. la toya tweeting en route verdict is finally in. i'm shaking uncontrollably. promising followers that michael would be with them in the courtroom assuring the right verdict. once inside, the family sat just a few feet away from the stoic dr. conrad murray. the moment's tension broken by a scream from la toya as the verdict was read. >> we, the jury, in the entitled action find the defendant, conrad murray, guilty of involuntary manslaughter. >> reporter: outside the courtroom -- hundreds erupted in shouts of justice as back inside prosecutors were asking for conrad murray to be handcuffed on the spot. >> at this time, your honor, the people would ask that the defendant be remanded in custody. >> reporter: and the judge agreed ordering him to be handcuffed as a danger to the public. >> dr. murray is remanded with no bail and with that the heart

doctor prosecutors say he thought he hit the lottery was usuhered away, stripped of his medical license now wait tock hear if he'll spend up to four years in the california prison system. sentencing is november 29th. >> we're talking about an involuntary manslaughter charge for someone with no criminal record and with no evidence that would suggest he might flee so this was pretty aggressive for the judge to say, lock him up. >> reporter: the jackson family leaving the courthouse to cheers. joe jackson saying cryptically -- >> there's more. >> reporter: and la toya expressing pleasure at the verdict. what do you think of the verdict? >> justice was served. >> reporter: the jury heard 49 witnesses and saw nearly 400 exhibits in all including jackson's voice recorded by conrad murray's cell phone like no one outside his inner circle had heard before. >> i want them to say, he's the

greatest entertainer in the world. >> reporter: and while conrad murray did not testify, the jury did hear his voice too, talking to police two days after jackson's death telling them, michael was desperate to sleep and begged him to give him milk or as it's known in the operating room, propofol. >> i agreed at that time that i would switch the -- over to the propofol. >> reporter: the impact witnesses, paramedics and er doctors who said conrad murray never mentioned propofol to them while they attempted to save jackson's life. the bodyguard who said dr. murray wanted him to hide evidence before calling 911 and the medical experts who said propofol should never be used in a home setting. that the level in his body led to one conclusion conrad murray set up a jiri rigged iv to strip it into his system.

>> it was facing an uphill battle because of the number of mistakes that conrad murray made and the number of things he did he shouldn't have done. >> reporter: the jury transported by van to a secret location outside los angeles and then making their way home did not respond to any questions yet. >> feel good to be done? >> reporter: in three weeks dr. murray will hear his fate, something he may never have imagined just after michael's death when he made this youtube appeal to his patients to stick with him. >> i will be fine. i have done all i could do. i told the truth, and i have faith the truth will prevail. >> reporter: a journey that began as a road to riches ending with a doctor losing his meal ticket, his medical license and now his freedom. in los angeles, i'm jim avila for "nightline." >> and the defense team has announced that they will appeal that verdict. our thanks to jim avila.

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> they are the golden boy and the cowboy, jack dawson and dirty harry and now for the first time ever leonardo dicaprio and clint eastwood are pooling their star power to make a big movie. eastwood is in the director's chair by dicaprio portrays one of the most complicated figures ever to cross the american stage, a man with such unbelievable power, even hollywood couldn't make it up. here's my co-anchor terry moran

with the "nightline" interview. >> sitting across from the two of you, icons of hollywood history. is that hard to go to work together? >> i just slap imup alongside the head in the morning. >> and you got to take that because he's clint eastwood. clint eastwood, leonardo dicaprio, two hollywood icons who can make any movie they want. >> i'm a -- >> reporter: they made "j. edgar." >> you know what all the power of the bureau of investigation means without federal law, without the ability to make arrest, it means nothing. >> reporter: it's the story of j. edgar hoover, one of the most powerful and controversial men in american history, the feared founder of the fbi, who built the bureau and ruled over it for nearly half a century. >> the federal bureau of investigation is as close to you as your nearest telephone. >> he was there throughout all of it. eight different presidents over 50 years in the same seat of power longer than anyone has in the history of our government in that same position.

>> longer than gadhafi. >> right. >> evil flourishes. >> reporter: dicaprio plays hoover from his early youth, he was 23 when he joined what would become the fbi until his death in 1972. it's an extraordinary transformation in the movie. you are wearing a lot of makeup. you look like an old man. >> that was the intent anyway. i don't know if he was emulating me but he did a great job of the way older men walk and -- >> you actually gave me a lot of advice the first day, slower, son. you wouldn't get up out of your chair that quick. >> reporter: in real life j. edgar hoover was a conviction contradiction. he made the fbi a premiere investigative organization. >> that man's record would be sent to the local police. >> reporter: with innovations like fingerprint labs and filing systems. >> this man is wanted for murder. >> reporter: professional training for agents but he was also a man of many secrets, public and private.

he used the fbi to spy on everyone from martin luther king jr. to franklin roosevelt and john f. kennedy amassing secret files he used to blackmail. in the movie hoover is shown presenting bobby kennedy with extremely compromising wiretaps of his brother. >> oh, let him know that i have a copy of my own in safekeeping. >> reporter: growing up and as a young man in the era of j. edgar hoover, what did you think of him? >> everybody thought of him as the top cop. >> reporter: did you admire him? >> i think so. >> reporter: but hoover had his own secrets. many historians believe hoover was a gay man in an era when that was unthinkable for a public figure. he never married and had a lifelong remarkably close relationship with fbi associate director clyde tolson. they ate lunch and dinners

together and are buried within a few feet of each other. >> mr. tolson, i need someone who i can trust. i want you to be my number two man. you understand, i need you. >> reporter: i went in thinking this was a movie about power and it felt to me it was almost a movie about love. >> it's a love story between two men in a way, but it's -- i didn't want to make it -- i dance want to diminish by making it some sort of sexual attraction or something like that. it had to be more -- much more substance to it than that. >> i think the way clint handled it in this movie was very tastefully done because what it did reflect was people who had unrequited i think yearning to have that sort of connection with somebody else but at the end of the day, they were protecting what was most important to them and they were a reflection of their country. >> reporter: what did you learn from clint eastwood? >> a lot. he drives you to trust your own

instincts. he sits there with his monitor and he looks at you and the other actors and you feel like you got to speak the truth and that's -- that's an absolute fact. he doesn't have a lot of people around him advising him or giving him second opinions about what he sees up on the screen and if he believes it, he moves on. if he doesn't he makes his adjustments. >> reporter: what did you like best about working him? >> i haven't the foggiest idea. i've worked with a lot of really good actors in my career, but none more diligent than he is and more attentive to detail and creating the character. >> reporter: the movie they've made is the kind of movie hollywood used to make all the time, big, ambitious, important. but not so much anymore. dicaprio seems deetermined to carry on the great tradition and is scornful of some of today's trends. >> i say, you know, here is a character, i can of service of that, it moves me emotionally

and i never really have questioned that. i've often heard from many different people you should try this genre but to do a movie just for the sake of doing a romantic comedy or doing a science fiction film seems sort of a profound waste of time. >> reporter: next up for him, "the great gatsby" in 3-d if some ways you were born to play gatsby. >> thank you and no thank you. >> reporter: as for clint eastwood at 81 he keeps doing things his inimitable way. >> being the senior guy, one advantage, what can they do to you? at some point in your life, you come to the point where if you're going to be -- call yourself a film director or moviemaker, whatever people call themselves, you've got to have some sort of vision and some

sort of faith in that and some sort of faith in your first instincts about things. >> we need men willing to dedicate their lives. how many is that so far. >> reporter: eastwood and dicaprio, hollywood icons trusting their instincts, taking risks, just like hollywood used to. >> and "j. edgar" opens wednesday, november 9th. our thanks to terry and coming up next, would you strap your toddler to a sheep for sports? maybe not tonight, maybe tomorrow? well, inside the rough and tumble world of mutton busting. when we come back. and here's my depression. before i started taking abilify, i was taking an antidepressant alone. most of the time i could pull myself together and face the day. but other days, i still struggled with my depression. i was coping, but sometimes it really weighed me down. i'd been feeling stuck for a long time. . he said it could help with my depression, and that some people had symptom improvement

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little girl some skates. but what you love rodeo? well, as abc's neal karlinsky explains you sign a waiver, buy a helmet and find some sheep. ♪ >> reporter: of all the things you can do with a toddler. >> honey, that's how they run. >> reporter: -- this may be the weirdest. it's called mutton busting and it's about as simple as it is obscure. >> welcome to the fair. >> reporter: take any willing kid 6 and under, put them on the back of a live sheep and see how long they can hang on. >> whoa! >> reporter: the combination of hockey helmeted kids, frantic sheep plus a healthy dose of dirt and tears. make foss are a particularly strange form of entertainment. even the pep talks are a little sketchy. this mom is as nervous as her daughter. >> just hold on with your leg. >> i'm kind of scared. >> i know. me too.

i'm a little more nervous i think than she is. it's a little fall but -- >> reporter: kyra is about to send her sweet little girl into battle. what's your gear? you got the hockey help met. >> a rib guard. >> reporter: and sandals. >> yeah. >> we weren't planning on mutton busting. >> reporter: wouldn't you know it, little ella owned that sheep. and had one of the best rides of the day. and that is saying something because as we watched toddler after toddler after toddle r wound up face down in a pile of dirt most with the same stunned expression. this little girl lost a shoe. >> where is your happy face? >> that's what the real cowboys do. >> reporter: tommy is the man behind the mutton.

>> i'm like the thomas he hadson. he invented the light bulb and ge made it better. >> reporter: you're seriously calling yourself that? >> yes. who else is doing this? >> reporter: he travels the country putting on these shows and will launch 10,000 kids into the ring this year alone up from 2,500, 25 years ago. he talks like a man who's been hanging around sheep a little too long. >> it's the toughest sport on wool. >> reporter: new slogan. what else you got? >> no flush too tough. >> reporter: we didn't witness any injuries but it's clearly not without risk. why do it? worried at all? >> about? >> reporter: safety. >> kids heal. no reason to raise a bunch of sissys. >> reporter: dylan had the white knuckled grip of a champion just sheer grit and determination.

what was your secret? how did you hang on so long? >> hold on tight. >> reporter: hold on to tight, words to live by from a 5-year-old mutton buster where dirt and tears bring glory. i'm neal karlinsky for "nightline" in washington. >> let the record show we championed the mutton busting cam thanks to neal karlinsky on that. and herman cain has just announced he will hold a press conference to address the latest accusation of sexual harassment but he is up next on "jimmy kimmel live". >> future firestorms. can you talk about them. >> i will talk about any and all future firestorms because here's one thing people don't know about herman cain, i'm in it to win it and i'm not going to be discouraged. >> you'll want to stay tuned for that and thank you for watching abc news. "gma" in the morning, we're always online