>> and up next on jimmy kimmle, actress angie harmon. >> have a great night. >> from hollywood, it's "jimmy kimmel live"! tonight, justin theroux, angie harmon, music from 5 seconds of summer. and now as you well know, here's jimmy kimmel! [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: thank you very much. [ cheers and applause ] that is very nice. i'm jimmy, i'm the host, thank

you for watching. thank you for joining me here. very nice. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: i appreciate that. we have a lot going on tonight. so much to get to. first of all, i don't know if you notice, we have a very popular band on our show tonight. they're from australia. and look at this line. a lot of these people slept over here last night. they slept in our parking lot. 99% women. i think there were a few dads sprinkled in there, but as far as men go, that is it. they're all here lined up for our musical guest tonight, "5 seconds of summer." and this is exciting. the band is planning to marry whoever screams the loudest. pick the four girls who make the most noise and spend the rest of their lives together, i guess. look at this. we have such a demand for tickets, we had to close down the street behind our theater to

accommodate everybody. between us and obama, you cannot move an inch in l.a. [ laughter ] logistical night -- security has already confiscated more than 10,000 glitter pens. [ laughter ] you know, these guys have never been on an american talk show before. and so the fans are very excited. they have been tweeting me about se a lot of the emoji

emotico emoticons. >> jimmy: tonight, we set up a video screen and pulled some of the fans out of the line. we totally wanted to set a world record for the most kisses, something dumb. anyway, as you might guess the girls were more than happy to be part of it. ♪ >> hi, guys. so i skipped practice to be here, and i'm going to be in so so much trouble. like, i have gone through a lot to try to get here today. and so when i got the call that we were going to be here, it was like -- [ laughter ] >> hi! what's up? what's your name? >> i'm melody. >> nadia, n-a-d-i-a. >> hi, nadia.

what we wanted to do is try to break the world record for most fans kissed in 24 hours. so -- >> kiss me! yes! >> before we do this, will you call me after we kiss, or -- >> yes. >> is it just going to be -- >> yes. >> so i'm going to come up -- we're going to kiss the screen. but we have to close our eyes. that's the only condition. all right? ready, 3, 2, 1. [ laughter ] >> oh, my god! [ laughter ] ♪ >> um -- okay. hi, guys. i love you guys so much. ashton, i love you. keep up with your drumming, you're amazing.

luke, your tallness -- michael, stop dyeing your hair. you're amazing. >> hello? hi! >> oh! how are you? >> hi! >> hi, how are you? >> i like your hair. it's a good color. >> oh, thank you very much. we're trying to set a world record for the band with the most kisses from our fans in 24 hours. >> okay, i'll do it. >> yeah, so we're going to kiss the screen. >> the screen or the camera? >> the screen. >> okay. >> i'm going to put my face next to the screen and then you have to kiss that. >> okay, okay. >> does that make sense? >> okay, okay, okay. >> hang on. [ laughter ] >> are you ready? >> yeah. >> okay. you just have to, like, lean in. >> okay. >> wait here, and you stand up on the thing. >> okay. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. okay, okay. close your eyes. close your eyes. lean in. lean in. lean in.

[ laughter ] where's my kiss? where is it? ♪ >> oh, my god. >> hi. >> hello! >> what's your name? >> my name is sandra. >> hi, sandra. i'm ashton. >> hello. >> so we've gathered you here today -- we're trying to set a world record for kissing the most fans in 24 hours through this screen. >> oh, my goodness. >> yeah, it's a thing. so you have to kiss me, if that's okay. >> how? >> so, yeah, pucker up. we'll lean in. but i'm going to count to five. you have to close your eyes, but you're going to come forward, okay? >> so, okay -- >> so come up on the step. >> on the step. >> just like that. yeah, yeah, yeah. and you have to close your eyes. 1, 2, 3 -- come in, come in, closer, closer. ah!

[ laughter ] >> no! >> basically, we're trying to set a world record. >> okay. >> for the band with the most kisses from their fans. >> okay. >> so basically, you have to kiss me through the screen. >> okay. i got it. [ laughter ] okay. >> you ready? >> yeah. >> all right. we're going to go for it. >> okay. [ laughter ] ♪ >> you enjoyed that right there? >> uh-huh. >> yeah, okay. ♪ hi! >> oh, my gosh. >> how are you? >> i'm good. oh, my god. oh, my god!

>> oh, my god! no, no, no, no, no! [ laughter ] >> are you having a -- >> no. ♪ [ laughter ] >> pucker up. >> look, you're so cute. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: meanwhile, there is a markedly different kind of excitement about 100 miles south of us down in engl san diego wh comic-con is in full swing. the hoards have descended like a locust with peanut allergies. i love when comic-con goes on in san diego. it's one of the most beautiful

cities in the country. the weather is perfect right now. and for four days, plays host to 150,000 people who never set foot outside. [ laughter ] it's a popular, comic-con, because it gives the fans a chance to get up close and personal with the creators and stores of the comics and movies they love. basically, comic-con is the reason soe security team and also people dress up like their favorite characters, like this guy who loves star wars so much, it appears to have consumed his life. >> a lot of people are showing up now. people are driving in. i found a local jedi. what's your name? >> steve. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: jedi steve. not much worse than luke, i guess. but when comic-con started in 1970, it was a small event. it was just one guy sitting in a pile of old "x men" comics. now if you have any hope of beating the crowds you have to get in line the day before it even starts. this morning, the cbs affiliate in san diego caught up with -- the enthusiastic super fan who managed to secure a spot at the front of the line. >> we do have the fans that are parked in line.

how long have you guys been waiting in line? >> oh, we've been waiting since 3:00 p.m. of yesterday. >> oh, my gosh. how do you feel? >> i'm dying in here. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: looks like they're having a lot of fun. there is some exciting movie news today. the trailer for the 50 shades of grey is on the internet. so if your mom doesn't pick up when you call her, that is right. it was a strange choice to have eddy murphy play all the parts. it comes out the day before valentine's day next year, which is good, because according to the hollywood reporter, the movie industry is headed towards its biggest slump in eight years. this summer movie season is expected to finish about 20% lower than it did last year. and for the first time since 2001, no summer movies have broken the $300 million mark in the united states. yeah, i love movies. i want to do whatever i can to help. so i enlisted the services of my friend ya-ya. ya-ya is originally from egypt.

he's a handyman i met outside a movie theatre, because his hobby is taking pictures with celebrities. we took a picture together, and immediately fell in love. and tonight he resumes his role as movie reviewer for us. he did this for the oscars. and tonight, ya-ya reviews a summer blockbuster in "talking about the movie with ya-ya." ♪ >> hi! i'm back again. i'm ya-ya. and actually, now i want to talk about the movie. transformer. mark wahlberg is in the movie. he's a good actor, too. he makes a lot of good movies with a lot of celebrities. [ laughter ] the fighting. [ laughter ] as the transformer, he looks like jurassic park. and tom foreman is in a car. and the car is on the top floor. technology, everything changing

now. you know, before in the movie one and two, the guy -- the young boy, shia labeouf -- [ laughter ] he know my me, ya-ya. i don't talk to him, because he's a small boy. i love smoke. thank god. you go with cigarette inside the water and come ten feet out and cigarette smoke, and i'm not smoking, thank god. look. i turn it off now. [ laughter ] good. go see the movie now. good luck. [ applause ] >> jimmy: most powerful anti- smoking advertisement i've ever

seen. we should go visit ya-ya in the hospital after this, right? >> yeah. >> jimmy: it's thursday night, time for our weekly tribute to the fcc where we bleep and blur things. whether they need it or not. it is this week, in "unnecessary censorship." censorship." [ cheers and applause ] >> has everything to do with [ bleep ]. >> waiting to [ bleep ]. >> i definitely have a [ bleep ] problem. >> one of the richest men says we are all [ bleep ] too many [ bleep ] each week. >> i will [ bleep ] until the cows come home. [ laughter ] okay, now i've got to take a [ bleep ]. barbara says happy birthday. if i was at the border, you would see my [ bleep ] out there. [ laughter ] [ bleep ]. >> that is good [ bleep ] thought. and it's nice and soft. that would not hurt your [ bleep ] the way your husband

does. [ bleep ]. [ laughter ] [ applause ] [ cheers and applause ] [ bleep ]. >> america can just [ bleep ] swallow it all. >> you've got to give all the [ bleep ] to each other. make a [ bleep ] together. you got to use all the senses with each other. and get [ bleep ] with each other. >> i don't want you going [ bleep ] anywhere around my house. [ laughter ] ♪ >> jimmy: we have a big outdoor performance from summer. and we'll be right back with justin theroux. honey, look i got one to land. uh-huh

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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ >> jimmy: angie harmon is here, and to accommodate the massive number of iós who showed up to

see them, they're from australia, their self-titled album, a block party of summer. there have not been this many screaming girls outside our theater since the last time regis was here. our first guest tonight is an actor and in his free time speaks another language other than english. he has a new show, "the leftovers." please welcome justin theroux. [ cheers and applause ] i'm amazed you were able to sneak through -- >> i couldn't get through. it is the hardest place to get to in hollywood right now.

>> jimmy: it is. thank you have, like, when you were that age, the age those girls are out there, did you have, like, a pop star that you had a crush on? >> debby harry was a big one for me. >> jimmy: really, debby harry? i think you're too young for debby harry. >> i remember my uncle had a cassette of hers. and i hadn't heard her music and i'm like this person is really special. >> jimmy: it's always an uncle with a cassette. [ laughter ] >> and then i met her like a -- like only a couple years ago. >> jimmy: oh-oh, you did. >> a dream fulfilled. >> jimmy: you made love to her? >> no -- [ laughter ] >> i did get to kiss her, yeah, kind of on the cheek. >> jimmy: wow, how about that? was she sleeping? you snuck in? [ laughter ] >> she woke up right away. >> jimmy: by the way, i'm also glad you're here, because i'm amazed, because according to "star" magazine, you're getting married on july 26th in mexico, which is two days from now! [ cheers and applause ]

>> i wish "us" magazine would put it on my calendar. >> jimmy: this one, "star" magazine. and i think you've been booked on this show for weeks. somebody would have looked. >> my itinerary. >> jimmy: the thing that worries me, makes me feel like that maybe mila and ashton didn't have a fight that stopped the wedding. [ laughter ] >> their fight could have stopped our wedding. >> jimmy: what do you think is tearing giselle and tom apart? i tell you what, all of our dreams have been shattered. >> not really. i worked at the circus. >> jimmy: you worked at the actual circus. >> i did. i had a job at the ringling brothers and barnum and bailey circus. >> jimmy: is this a joke? >> no. >> jimmy: what did you do at ringling brothers? >> i made snow cones. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: for real. you traveled with the circus? >> not only did i work for ringling brothers, i worked for ringling brothers in tokyo, japan. i went there to make some money for college for a summer job or

whatever. [ laughter ] makes no sense. great career move. >> jimmy: you went overseas to make snow cones. >> i went to japan with a friend of mine who was japanese, and was going to live there, hopefully find some work. and the circus was in town. you know how that story ends. but i ended up getting a job with the circus, sort of as a -- sort of an assistant managerial position selling snow cones. >> jimmy: oh, wow. it's a shame you didn't stick with that. were you good at it? >> i was good. they call it snow cone balling. and you actually crack the ice and you can -- you know, if you can -- make a lot of snow cone bowls. >> jimmy: you speak japanese -- >> i don't speak any japanese. i can sell snow cones in japanese. that one sentence. >> jimmy: what is it? >> uh, it is -- uh -- [ speaking in japanese ] i think. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: she says yes. that was good. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ]

does he want a snow cone? >> jimmy: what did you do after you worked in the circus? >> become an astronaut. >> yeah, went down to florida. no, i moved to new york. >> jimmy: moved to new york. >> yeah, moved straight to new york after college. and lived there and bar tended. >> jimmy: almost like making snow cones. were you a good bartender? >> i was a pretty good bartender. i wasn't one of those bartenders where people come up, i want the sex on the naval, whatever. [ laughter ] it was one of those things where they had something like -- being a joker. what do you want to drink. i did not make it -- >> jimmy: so you were a bad bartender. >> i did recently have -- i've sort of taken credit for being the guy who -- me and one of the other bartenders kind of as a joke one time said wouldn't it be funny if we sold really crappy beer and charged the same amount for it. so we started putting like

schlitz and charged 4 bucks a can for them. and we sold out like that night and every night thereafter. >> jimmy: really? >> a preirony thing. where people are like, yeah, this is really terrible beer. it's hysterical. >> jimmy: you were like hipster zero then. you have this -- here you are, "details" magazine and looking -- let's see, handsome and forlorn, as well. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> just finished crying. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: yeah, were you in the magazine or did they capture you and make you be a part of it. yeah, there is some good pictures of you in here. have you looked through this? >> oh, yeah. >> jimmy: this is a good one. >> jimmy: there you are. [ cheers and applause ] >> ooh. [ laughter ] >> just hanging around with

makeup on. >> jimmy: spent so much on the pants, you couldn't afford the shirt. but you have this reputation as a bad boy. and i know you, and you're not -- >> no. sometimes they get it right, jimmy. >> jimmy: you don't do drugs. you don't -- you have not been -- >> i am a bad boy, jimmy. that one thing they have nailed. >> jimmy: but you really aren't a bad boy. you're a good boy, i would say. >> i think i'm a good boy. >> jimmy: yeah, you are a good boy, right? >> i would like to think so. my mom thinks i'm a good boy. >> jimmy: does she? >> call her right now and she would tell you that. >> jimmy: you have no skeletons or anything like that? >> i have some skeletons. >> jimmy: you do. >> you can't come into hollywood without a couple mug shots under your belt. oh, yeah, many times. >> jimmy: no. [ laughter ] >> many arrests. >> jimmy: really? >> you think you know me, jimmy. but you don't know me. >> jimmy: well, i know you haven't been arrested. because i think i would have known that. >> you can google it. >> jimmy: for real. >> everything is on the internet. none of us can escape it. >> jimmy: i'll google it right

now, if you want. >> no. >> jimmy: yeah, i'll google it. let's see. [ cheers and applause ] your name is hard to spell, the last name. all right. okay. all right. [ laughter ] all right. okay. there we go. hold on. oh, wow, there is a mug shot of you. what was this one? >> 2011, i was in pompano beach, arrested for fishing without a license. >> jimmy: these were trumped up charges, by the way. what the hell happened here? >> that was a public urination. specifically, i had been caught urinating on a clown. >> jimmy: oh, my god, look at

this one. this is -- whoa. >> that was a dark period. >> jimmy: note the s, i have to say. there are a lot of pictures. >> this one doesn't look like what you think it would look like. that was ivory poaching. >> jimmy: ivory poaching. unusual ensemble. >> that's not a mug shot. that's just me going to a kiss concert. >> jimmy: okay. oh, wow, look at that. >> that was me after the kiss concert. [ laughter ] i don't know what to say on that one. zoom in on it. that was a very dark night in mexico. >> jimmy: yeah, right. >> that's the night we got married. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: all right. well, all right. you are a bad boy. justin theroux he is a bad boy, everybody. ♪ ♪ portions of jimmy kimmel live are brought to you by just for men, go to

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affleck, of course. please welcome angie harmon. w0 ♪ well, how are you. >> jimmy: good to see you. i'm doing well. did you see all of the kids outside there? >> did you miss them. age -- we had an interesting answer from justin. who did you like? did you like anyone that much? >> duran duran. >> jimmy: oh, yeah. [ cheers and applause ] >> yes. and i actually -- those were one of my first concerts, and i made sure, i was on the john taylor side of the -- >> jimmy: john. >> i mean, as you know. >> jimmy: my sister liked him too. >> and -- you know, he winked at me. >> jimmy: did he really? >> yes, he did. yes, he did. >> jimmy: he winked at you or he was winking in your vicinity. >> no, he did.

>> jimmy: oh, he really did. >> yes. >> jimmy: oh. have you met him? >> yes. and so then -- actually, i was at a dinner for messoni, and i sat right next to him. so that sort of -- that stalker girl was still in here. and i had no idea. i couldn't talk to him. i felt like this for -- >> jimmy: oh, really? >> and sat over there for like 20 minutes. and finally i looked over and he was still john taylor and he had the hair and just -- and -- >> jimmy: did you tell him? >> that he winked at me? >> jimmy: yes. did he wink again? maybe he's just got a facial tick. >> you ruined my childhood dream. >> jimmy: i'm sorry. that's why i'm here. how old are your kids? >> they are 10, 9 and 5. >> jimmy: all girls? >> all girls. >> jimmy: are they like interested in this sort of thing? >> not yet. >> jimmy: oh. >> no, not yet. >> jimmy: that's good. >> yeah.

>> jimmy: yeah, you want to hold out for as long as you possibly can. >> i do. because have you seen what's out there? >> jimmy: yeah, i have. >> they're throwing themselves at cars and in front of cars. >> jimmy: yeah, it's crazy. >> it's crazy! we're not them! we need to go, and 100 of them just screaming and -- >> jimmy: your daughters are going to do that eventually. yeah, they are. what are their names? >> finley, avery >> jimmy: it sounds like a law firm in the south. [ laughter ] finley, avery and emory. those are unusual names. are they family names? >> no, they were just -- i wanted to do that super cool. in school i wanted people like -- did you check out finney seahorn. and that's a cool name, if you think about it. avery seahorn, is it a guy, a

girl, i don't know, let's go check it out. [ laughter ] i was pregnant. it's not my fault. >> jimmy: you were pregnant before you had your kids? how unusual. you also had -- not only do you have children, but you've got ducks. these are -- >> i have ducks. >> jimmy: stolen from your twitter account. >> yes. >> jimmy: three little ducklings. how did you get these things? >> they were easter presents from my girls. and each one has their duck. and they snuggle and they do all that. >> jimmy: and they're growing. >> and now they're turkeys. they are huge. >> jimmy: this was their pool and now it's just their bowl. [ laughter ] what are their names? >> uh. all right. this is smoulder. >> jimmy: uh-huh. >> because number one is in dragons right now. and then this is dr. nibbles. and this is sunny. >> jimmy: and will you be eating the -- >> oh! [ laughter ] no!

and i'll tell you, you know -- this one -- >> jimmy: the middle one? >> yes, he knows he is gorgeous and hot so he really has become a jerk. really, to be honest. and so he -- look how gorgeous he is. >> jimmy: almost looks like he's green. >> he is. he's green and iridescent purple and blue. and i thought this was a fabulous idea. and now it's just really -- >> jimmy: yeah, because there's got to be an end to this. and he's fat. the end is no good. >> and it's like children. you raise them, put your heart and soul into it and then they fly away. so that's what's going to happen because i'm not going to clip their wings. i'm not that kind of person. and the girls just sit there. so the girl -- that's the little one. she goes on sleepovers, and i don't know how i feel about that. >> jimmy: just going to let your pets leave on their own? >> i can't -- >> jimmy: do you do this with dogs too, or just ducks? is leave the door open and hope for better things? >> no! i want them to come back. but i'm not going to inhibit

them from leaving. >> jimmy: if you love something, set it free. >> that's right. >> jimmy: and allow it to be eaten by a coyote. >> or with a towel, that's the whole thing. flapping and fluttering. >> jimmy: your show is a big success. how many seasons has the show been on now? >> this is our fifth season. >> jimmy: fifth season. your character is pregnant now. >> yes. >> jimmy: yes, with -- >> a baby. >> jimmy: a baby, yes. not a duck. [ laughter ] are you drawing on your own personal experiences as a pregnant woman? >> well, no, i didn't have any experience as a pregnant woman, with the first one. and i was actually terrified, you know, when i found out that i was pregnant. i flung myself on the bed. and i was like, why, why! >> jimmy: i can explain why if you want. [ laughter ] >> no! >> jimmy: i know how it works now. well, it's very good to see you. give my best to the girls and to the ducks and to jason, as well. [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back with 5 seconds of summer. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy kimmel's live concert series is presented by at&t. mobilize your world.

[ cheers and applause ] >> the "jimmy kimmel live" series is presented by at&t, mobilize your world. >> apologies, out of time, "nightline" is next. but first, 5 seconds of summer! ♪ ♪ thought about it ♪ it's done the way you face it ♪ even though you friends told me ♪ you're doing fine ♪ somewhere feeling lonely ♪

when he said those words to hurt you ♪ do you believe the words i wrote you ♪ start to wonder ♪ how could you define ♪ remember the days ♪ i remember running down your face ♪ and the tears you left behind you didn't need them ♪ i wish that i could be that ♪ i wish that i could ♪ ♪ and the memories right now ♪ ♪ ♪

♪ pictures that you sent me ♪ now my friends keep asking why i'm not around ♪ ♪ ♪ it hurts to know you're happy and hurts that you are gone ♪ it's hard to hear your name when i haven't seen you in so long ♪ like we never happened ♪ if what we had was a dream how could you be fine ♪ told me you were leaving ♪ i remember the makeup running down your face ♪ and the dreams you left behind you didn't need them ♪ ♪ ♪ i wish that i could wake up with amnesia ♪ forget about these stupid little

fears ♪ and the memories ♪ if i woke up with you right beside me ♪ ♪ ♪ closer than i ever did before ♪ and you would never slip away ♪ i remember the day you told me you were leaving ♪ i remember the makeup running down your face ♪ and the dreams you left behind you didn't need them ♪ like every single wish you ever made ♪ i wish that i could wake up with amnesia ♪ and forget about this stupid little dream ♪

♪ ♪ and the memories ♪ [ cheers and applause ] thank you! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ hey, hey ♪ hey hey ♪ hey ♪ hey ♪ ♪ hey hey ♪

they were too young now to amount to anything ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ somebody standing there might feel better ♪ and i know now that i'm so down ♪ and i know now that down ♪ ♪ hey hey hey ♪ hey hey hey ♪ hey hey hey ♪ get these wings ♪ ♪ ♪

♪ found myself alone ♪ ♪ let me hear you ♪ with your name on it ♪ would you want to run away ♪ somebody standing now ♪ and i know now that i'm so down ♪ in '94 i got to risk ♪ and i now know that i'm so down ♪ hey hey hey, hey hey hey

know now that i'm so down ♪ and i know now ♪ ♪ this is "nightline." tonight, the family man. he played the eternal figure in "mrs. doubtfire," but to his family, they were grieving. tonight, what we now know about his battle as we investigate the dark side of comedy. plus, pretty little liar? she is a beauty pageant contestant and also authorities say, a con artist, why did