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♪ >> a voice, a little quiet voice goes no. it's the same voice. just one. for someone who has no tolerance for it, that's not a possibility. >> the world lost a beloved and talented actor and comedian who brightened our lives for decades while he battled a darkness inside that finally claimed his life. but robin williams legacy will live on in our hearts and minds. today we will talk about robin williams for the next half hour, about his amazing gift to the world and about the way he died after suffering from severe depression and our hearts go out to the williams family at this difficult time.

our guests include two men who knew robin, talented performers, fran copeland, talk show host, author, bob serlot what haven't you guys done. i wanted to -- before we get into the issue of depression with robin, you knew him. you worked with him. you must have been just stunned when you heard the news. >> i was just -- i was flabbergasted. people who suffer from depression really mask it well. that's why when there are suicides, there's so many people who are shocked, until you do what i call the emotional autopsy later on. i was shocked because on stage he was just this fireball, this whirlwind of comedic energy. when you talk to him off stage, just a kind, soft spoken, generous thoughtful man. to realize now he was in such

pain, it's surprising and it's heartbreaking. >> i go back to the 1976 comedy -- the first comedy competition in which spraean francisco was the first town to do it. he came in second. i came in third. bill farley came in first. i met robin doing sets around town then. that made him still a great guy to me. he remembered -- in any job, when you begin in broadcasting, whoever was nice to you, you actually have a certain -- >> i remember them, one or two people. >> you know what i mean. people who helped you out, went through the same battles that you did. robin always remembered that. he always had the same respect for me, i for him in that. that's what he was. all the other things he was famous for, the movies, he was a live performer. that was the gateway. that's the same with a lot of guys, like steve martin. he became an actor after his great success as a stand up

median. it is a tough life, he was always son. >> not always. my children's mother sent me a bunch of pictures over the last couple of days from the comedy celebration that we do in golden gate park every year. there were all these pictures through the years of robin with my children, playing with them. holding them as babies. i had no idea. this guy at the time, this is the '80s and '90s when he was really at the top of his game. >> and you were just starting out. >> i was just starting out, i was a nobody. who does that, when they reach that level of success, it's usually i never met you who are you? that's not how robin williams was. >> jeff tells a similar story to you. he said a couple weeks ago -- robin williams spent a lot of times in marin. he was telling how -- jeff's daughter was in medical school,

was thinking about quitting. robin got on the phone to mock chew her out, stay this school. he knew jeff's kids very well like he knew brian's. he could be, like you say, when he was quiet, he was really quiet. i think that's because he expended so much energy daily in the art and craft of doing this. that's the time that is hard to come down from that. i think that's probably what he experienced. >> when you were coming up and creating your own comedy routine, i'm trying to imagine where do you get that comedy? where does a person like robin get the comedy? >> to get to the basic, he came out of acting. >> juilliard. >> he had a new way of working. he started that style that people like howie mandel did, everyone else. crazy guys on stage. robin worked improve a lot, but also a structured performer because of his acting jobs.

he laid on his old juilliard. >> also an element of the lenny bruce jazz to it, he would get on these rifs that were free form. he would start with shakespeare and end up someplace 180 degrees away from that aystericale hystl in between. that's a gift. >> interestingly enough, you have so much objective knowled e knowledge. he could call upon things he knew. he had a remarkable memory. >> i want to take a break. we know robin suffered from severe depression. today we learn that he was in the early stages of parkinson disease. you know, another blow to all of those who felt so connected to him in so many ways. >> yeah. >> gosh. >> crazy. >> his daughter sent out a

message on social media. she said while i will never ever understand how he could be loved so deeply and not find it in his heart to stay, there's minor comfort in knowing our grief and loss is shared by millions. you know what was sick, people were bullying herri online? >> really? >> any were what? >> bullying her online. >> sick, twisted people. >> she signed off of social media for a time. >> i remember one time it was me, robin, dana and he was so proud of zelda, because she was trying to make it in hollywood. it is hard to follow in the footsteps of a giant. she was still trying to give her best, not letting it help her or hinder her. he was so proud of her. >> we will take a break. we will talk more about robin's

depression, your personal battle with depression, why men don't talk about these things, and why bob is committed in finding resources to diagnose and treat mental illness. we'll b

. >> in the end, none of us have long on this earth. life is fleeting. if you are ever distressed, cast your eyes to the summer sky and the stars strewn across the night. a shooting star streaks through the blackness turning night into day. make a wish. make a wish. the night comes alive spectacular. i know i did. >> he really did. that clip from the movie "jack" brought tears to our eyes,

especially as we thought about his life, what happened this past week and the depression that is so difficult. you talked about the ups and downs of the career of an entertainerment. >> a couple of things belies what happened. as brian eluded to before, the last time i saw him, he seemed to be so comfortable in his own skin, which was not always the case, i dent think. especially early on in his career. he was always so frenetic. coming on and off stage, brian is doing a lot of theater work. you get up for something, it's like playing four quarters of a final game every day, you have to get psyched up, do it, and come down. >> and then there's the fear of failure, will they like it? will they love it? >> that's huge as well. >> even if you come off stage and you have a standing ovation, the high will only last five minutes, ten minutes. >> right. you're only as good as your last

performance. >> with somebody whose mind was going as fast as his was, it may be how do you top this? there was so much going on with him. i would say the idea of coming down from any of that is -- to me, there's no cure, but the idea, i think, is a solid social life that doesn't always involve us. having people outside the business. >> brian, you have battled severe depression yourself. you were open about it. you talked about it on facebook. i want to read a quote from you. you said on facebook the more we discuss it out in the open, the more we destigmatize it. the more we destigmatize it, they come out of the shadows and talk about how they are acting in a self destructive way. that's pretty bold. >> yeah. >> were you going through another episode? >> at the time of that, sure. i'm on the back end of the most severe episode of depression i've ever had.

it lasted three months. there were times i did not think i would make it through it. i thought maybe this is a teachable moment. maybe i can say something here that will help some people. so i just started to chronicle on facebook what i was going through during this bout. here's how i felt. here is how i feel right now. here's how much i slept. 8,000 people followed me. i figured 10% of the population -- about 800 people are suffers, they started calling themselves the 800 on my page. they followed and would tell about their own experiences and how family members don't get it. family members are saying the sun is shining, pep up. it was an opportunity to have an open conversation about this. this is, again -- i started this three months ago, long before we knew anything about robin. i heard something interesting yesterday. my publicist, sandy freedman in los angeles, used to represent rock hudson during the time that rock hudson came public with the

fact that he had aids. that changed the face of how we viewed aids in america because it put rock -- rock hudson was someone we all knew. it gave us a chance to take it out of the showers and talk about it. sandy made the good point of what happened with robin may now finally give us the courage as americans and as a society to have the conversation about this issue that we have been afraid to have. >> i want to let you know that throughout the show we will offer resources for folks online and at the end of this program, the show will be online. we will offer suicide prevention lines and places for people to get help. i was struck when the news broke on monday, because we did so much news and everything, robin williams dominated the news. we were so connected to him in so many different ways. you two were very public on the radio, in the newspapers, on television. bob, i know you said you have

not suffered from depression. but i want to thank you for adding to the conversation that brian started. >> it's great. one of the things -- i was more celebrating his life than commenting on what happened. you know what he really did, as i did interviews, i started thinking of something i wanted to say, we were so proud of him. there was no jealousy. he brought to l.a. and new york more about a was going on comedically. it is surprising. he was so huge. we knew it but we didn't think of him that way because he was always around. >> such a regular guy. >> he was. internationally, nationally, everywhere, it's incredibility to us. we knew him as a great stage act. he could still hit the pitching. he was still that way. he was still good. >> he was. >> that's what i'm most proud of him. he really made a celebration out of san francisco being a place. no hype. no b.s. it was on the map because of

him. others have followed. >> what the interesting is that there is a national sense of mourning right now. >> there is. internationally. >> internationally. >> to that end, we were going to talk about the stagmum's. i have been involved in their consortium in the nap tha valle area, they bring in patrick kennedy from rhode island as a rep. he was suffering from depression. we mentioned glenn close as a spokesperson. they have a huge party they do, but that's surrounded by this consortium, it's a whole day of scientists, doctors, talking about mental health, then celebrating with a big show. we had gladys knight, some big acts up there. they do a great job. they're on it 24 hours a day. >> we have to take a bit of a

break. we have so much more to talk about. the life and death of robin williams and the impact he's had on so

. >> when people say he took his life, i say, no, he died of an illness. he had challenges that were an illness. sometimes something so high profile and heartbreaking can give us a boost to do more. >> why are people killing themselves. terrible thing. i wish his legacy -- i wish his legacy would be something else. part of his legacy may be greater, save more lives than any movie or comedy show he ever did. >> comedian johnny steel, congresswoman thnancy pelosi talking about rob win williams.

you guys knew robin and how tough this illness is. >> i was looking at that clip from johnny. i have to the talked to jn ed e since this happened. we talked about earlier in the show that i suffer from depression. i've written to shows about it about how deep -- i've been to that place that suicidal place. i got an e-mail from johnny steel yesterday, he said if you are ever feeling a place where you are that low where you feel like you're going to do something like this, call me, please, so i can personally come over and slap you. >> that's johnny. >> that's johnny. that's the e-mail i gotment. >> forget the therapy. >> forget the therapy. there's so many misconceptions about this disease, so much that people don't understand. you can't snap out of it. the thing thatthe mos bothers me the most, you were saying zelda had been bullied on social media. there are people who say what he

did was selfish, others say it's about being a coward. it's ridiculous. if he died from lou gherings disease or cancer or any other fatal illness, which is what depression is, people wouldn't blame the victim. >> no. >> we have some signs up here for people, if you have friends, you notice this, we want to let people know we really care about our viewers. here are the signs to look for, if you have friends. slapping is not on the list. >> no. >> they look down on that. >> cdc has not said that's -- >> bob. i want to get back, you were talking about the stagmum family. they've done an amazing job with the work -- they used their own money to build a foundation. >> they brought it out in the open in a bunch of ways, in a studious way with the science and the doctors, and they made it sort of palatable to talk about it in the context of

regular life. september 13th is the date of their big show up there. >> you've been dock this for a while. >> yeah. it's a great show. they bring top-flight acts up there. it's up in rutherford is where it is. i'm doing something actually tomorrow night, on friday, about the same issue down in monterey. they are wonderful people. they really made it a palatable thing to talk about where it's not under the carpet anymore. it will be a lot of fun. >> even with all the pressures you guys have in your personal life, you still take time to help others. >> it's therapeutic. it's good for us any way. brian does these great shows in san leandro, he does a lot of great stuff. that's a great community. it's a theater on east 14th street. he has brought in george lopez, brought in dana last year.

>> that was the call i made to robin last week to see if robin -- i usually have a surprise guest to the show. >> was he receptive to you? >> i wasn't able to reach him. yeah. it's just such a -- i'm still in shock. it's the only way i can describe it. it's not real. >> it's hitting me now because we did so much stuffusiness lik. you make a gig out of it so you don't face it. >> we are all laughing through our tears. everything he has done, his body of work is unbelievable. his range -- >> that "jack" clip you picked was apropos. >> yeah. how do you -- you're both extremely talented in your own right. how do you rate robin in terms of what he brought to the entertainment industry? >> you know what i was saying, i'm sure you may have another slant on this, if you think about the people -- there's a story about the old comics.

if you think about the jack perrys, george burns, robin's career is long or longer in different fashions of the business. there's so many people in the business now than they weren't then. to think he rose above all that with the body of work. you forget. you look at the favorite moveriemovery movies, you don't think of it. >> when you think of the comics our parents grew up with. how many8 entertaining to a 5-year-old as well as a 75-year-old, that's robin. few can say that. other than maybe cosby, there's nobody else i can think of. >> you talked about a collective mourning. every house he lived in, there are shrines to him now with flowers. >> yeah. >> videotapes. >> yeah. when i thought of the perspective of it, you don't think about legends because you

think of them as being dead. i still don't think of them being gone. it is hard to think of him as a legend. the outpouring shows that. >> we throw the word genius around so often. there are so few situations in which that word is appropriate. if ever there was a situation, this is it. >> i know you guys do an annual comedy show. i heard maybe talk about doing a tribute to him. >> we do comedy in the park. >> that's in september. i will do on my kgo radio program, probably something next sunday, a three-hour tribute. >> beautiful. >> we have -- we have about 30 seconds left. final thoughts on robin and what he's given to us? >> wow. wow, final thoughts. again, i'm repeating things, but the body of the work, just how you could be so good in so many different areas, we don't notice

it until we have to look back at it. a classic performer. >> my final thought would be that he just gave so much of himself to the world. i'm sad he wasn't able to keep more of it for himself. >> me, too. thank you both for being here. thank you for making it okay to talk about depression. it's going to be a gift to a lot of people. brian copeland, bob serlot. thank you. >> our pleasure. >> we hope our viewers can continue this discussion online with us, on facebook and twitter. share the resources with everyone. we want to leave you now with the look at the genius of robin williams. he truly did make his life spectacular and our lives are better because of him. >> fly, be free! >> robin williams "good will hunting." >> thank you, ben and matt. i still want to see only i.d. >> i'm thanking everybody now. spewing out, dustin! steven! wrong movie! >> robin, can you ever turn off?

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