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france, or a suburb of, saint-denis, 30 minutes from the heart of paris. these live pictures coming in more than five hours after a massive police raid went down in this neighborhood. we're told now that five people have been arrested, three from inside an apartment, two from outside. a female suicide bomber deton e detonated her vest as police were closing in. all of this relating to the attacks that took place in paris on friday. >> as we watch the pictures of the streets of france, we wonders how this could impact the homeland in the united states. you can't help but wonder if this could happen in washington, d.c., or los angeles or -- >> absolutely -- >> tampa, florida. we're going to bring in -- earlier we spoke with former fbi special agent bradgat garrett w talked about what law enforcement are doing to secure the homeland. >> caller: one of the keys any time you're trying to determine if somebody's in a residence is

what intelligence do you have that he's there? in other words, did neighbors call you, a source call you? what is the situation? what you try to do is take that, and can you corroborate it. in other words, what makes you, the police, convinced that this person is in that house? as we experienced the last couple of days, they entered the house, and he wasn't there. they thought he was inside. maybe they had the situation, maybe they don't. but at some point, if they have enough time, they're going to figure out how to get either cameras or mics inside a particular location to determine what they can see. and at some juncture -- i think you're reporting, you're hearing noises which may possibly be plane cra flash bangs, et cetera, they may well have entered a residence or an apartment, whatever it might be. >> i was surprised, shortly after the attacks on friday, the

fbi coming out and saying they will be upping surveillance in this country. particularly looking for people potential whoa suddenly go dark. can you tell us about that and what the fbi is doing post attacks on friday? >> sure. they've got literally dozens of people they're keeping track of. the suggestion based on what we saw in paris is that there's no outward or open communication, there was encrypted communication that remains to be seen. the key here is if you've got players or individuals that you're particularly concerned about and you're going to up the surveillance -- in other words, the physical surveillance, the electronic surveillance obviously of cell phones and hard lines, i think that's what they're suggesting. there may be a core group of people, they have the most person about. . and they're trying to do sort of the tick-tock, literally the tick-tock of their life, where

are they, where are they going, who are they associating with, et cetera. >> brad, what happens in a situation like this -- they're talking about an area in brussels that they believe to be the epicenter where the planning took place. they say the community, it is largely muslim, very tight-knit. how does the fbi or any law enforcement crack any community that is very tight-knit, even if you up the surveillance in the area? the people aren't going to speak. how do you get a tip-off what's happening or what people are up to? >> the biggest advantage today is that even people in communities like this know that the behavior that occurred in paris will come back down on them. and it is, in effect, i think, coming back down on them to a certain extent. so that will get some people to talk to you. you bring up a point that's been a real issue for the fbi and others during -- since 9/11.

you know, there's been complaints from the muslim community that the bauer oh and other agencies, nypd in particular, were using too aggressive tactics. they were trying to infiltrate mosques, et cetera. and so you've got that whole component. some of it's worked, and some of it has not. but you know, it still boils down to two things. human sources and electronic intercepts. and i suspect that's where they're getting the majority of the information that's driving, for example, the current location where they're attempting to apparently go into or think about going into a residence or an apartment. >> all right, brad. i'm curious about this one thing. they're saying it's possible that abdelhamid abaaoud, the guy suspected behind the "charlie hebdo" trained attaattack, the

that didn't happen. they thought he was in syria, now it's thought he might be in a residential area of paris. does that shock you, that he might have been able to survive for all this time? >> no, because the ability particularly in europe to move around in -- particularly if you're doing it by car is just not that difficult. particularly if you have great fake i.d.s and/or somebody else is moving you, i can see that to be a possibility. >> former fbi special agent brad garrett joining us earlier. we'll be right back.

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shotgun, boom. it don't stop. that don't stop. everyone were in the street. police told us to go home and stay safe with family. >> how many gunshots did you hear? >> around 50. around 50. i don't know. yeah. a lot. a lot. a lot. a bomb, shots, a lot. >> do you have any sense -- police have said they're focusing on the man who may be behind the attacks on friday. is there any sense, do you know who this guy is? and potentially was there buzz in the community? do you think he might be there? >> i don't know. i don't know who they are. it's terrorists -- after

saturday -- i don't know how we say in english, but he was wanted. and he was at saint-denis. >> he possibly in your neighborhood. rahil, i know you mentioned you heard 50 gunshots. how it to hear that the suspects might have been in your neighborhood, how frightening was that? how scary? >> caller: for me, not scary. i don't realize again, but my mother is -- she ask not go outside. people are scared. >> i can understand. he's saying his mother was quite scared. he heard so many shots. we appreciate you joining us. >> an eyewitness there from the suburb of saint-denis. please stay with us. itness from the suburb of

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this morning on "world news now" we're cov now" we're covering breaking news from france. >> a massive police operation just north of paris in the town of saint-denis, a suburb. we are told that police have gone after several suspects in friday's attack there on paris. >> earlier this evening we heard that there were a series of at least ten explosions. potentially a stun grenade of some sort. and in a middle-class neighborhood just as you mentioned, kendis, 30 minutes from paris. we want to go now onto the scene. abc's alex marquardt has actually just witnessed a great deal of police activity. alex, what can you tell us? >> reporter: good morning, reena. there was a flurry of activity that came out of nowhere in the past five minutes. we've been here for about an hour, and all the police here have been relatively relaxed. we'd been told by the justice

ministry that this raid was coming to an end. and then in an instant around a half dozen to a dozen police officers took off running away from the central square where we are right now. all of the press here, and there are about 50 of us, and many more residents, around 100 of them, followed in hot pursuit to see where they were going down the narrow side streets of this suburb of paris. they had their guns drawn. they went through a park right nearby. they told a woman who was walking through the park, it's 9:00 in the morning, people are starting to come out, to get down on the ground. it was unclear what exactly they were going after, but they seemed very aggressive. they were running quite quickly. as i mentioned, they did have their guns drawn. 500 yards away down this narrow street before the police promptly turned back around, yelled at us to get out of the way, and came back here to the square. so we are essentially back to square one, if you will. we understand as i mentioned

from the justice ministry that this raid has come to an -- sources that one of the suspects inside this apartment surrounded by police around 200 yards down the street was a woman who detonated her explosives vest. and the big -- who else was inside that apartment. the target of the investigation, french officials -- was a man named abdelhamid abaaoud. he is a 26-year-old belgian, a very prominent member of isis who had featured in a number of online videos, barbaric execution online videos, who is believed to be in syria, believed to be the mastermind, the organizer of these attacks on friday night that left 129 people dead. it was quite surprising to learn this morning that he might be in fact in france. and of course the other person who is of great interest to

international officials, to law enforcement, is salah abdeslam, also a 26-year-old belgian, who is -- who had been believed to be the lone survivor, the lone attacker of the eight attackers on friday night. his whereabouts are unknown. an international manhunt has been launched. and then late last night french authorities came out saying there is a second suspect who is on the run, a second possible attacker that would bring the total number of attackers to nine. kendis, reena? >> alex, if that is abdelhamid abaaoud who is in there, the target of this raid, that would really be a big deal. i know you covered the "charlie hebdo" attack earlier this year. this guy would be a high-value target, right? >> reporter: it would be hugely significant. for starters, just because he was the -- you know, he's believed to be the ringleader, the mastermind of this

operation, a guy who has been featured in these propaganda videos, these execution videos that isis has become known for. he's a belgian citizen of moroccan descent, and isis has put their european and other foreign members front and center to try to recruit people from around the world. isis is believed to have thousands of members from various european countries. belgium, where he's from, has the highest number of fighters in isis proportionally. hundreds, thousands more coming from both france and -- prominent member of isis. to find him back here is very significant. of course to catch him would be even more significant. kendis? >> and we're looking right now, of images of police activity right around the area where the raid took place in the apartment complex. alex, we know this is a middle-class residential area but talk to us. you are based in the middle

east. you cover a lot of this type of activity. tell us what would go on in the minds of police at this hour when you're dealing with civilians in a heavily populated area. >> reporter: well, they've been carrying out dozens, scores of attacks every night, ever since these attacks happened on friday night that left 129 people dead. both in belgium and in france. and so some of these raids they say are connected directly to the investigation around the attack. others are not. we were rapping up in the downtown paris a couple hours ago when news of shootings came out in saint-denis and it quickly became clear that this was connected to the attacks on friday night. the french have obviously been cracking down on neighborhoods like the one we've been talking about, molenbeek in brussels. now, molenbeek is very

interesting because it's in central brussels and yet it's become a hotbed of jihadism. hundreds of its residents have gone off to fight for isis in syria and other jihadist broke. there are some 900 people. a lot of its youth are disaffected. there's a high unemployment rate. so that's why they feel disenfranchised. and that's why this radical jihadism, extremism, has been on the rise. and you see the same symptoms here in france as well. when people talk about the banlieue, the suburbs outside of paris where you have large muslim populations of young disenfranchised muslims who feel disconnected with french

society, secular french society, who feel targeted by french society. and that's what many experts accuse of stirring up this angry, of fomenting this extremism and causing these young people to go to syria and to iraq and elsewhere. the fear now is that we have the attacks in january and we've had these attacks now and that this is just the beginning of a new wave of attacks, that we're going to see not just in france but in europe and beyond. isis has said they want to target the u.s. and washington in particular. i spoke with secretary of state john kerry yesterday, who said that anybody who was engaging in the fight with daesh, with isis, is now a target. so this is something that european and american officials fear, that this is the beginning of a new wave of attacks internationally by isis. >> alex marquardt reporting from saint-denis for us. alex, we appreciate the update. we want to get now to our affiliate, france 24, the english and french channel. and they have some eyewitness sound we want to get to right now. >> i woke up hearing gunshots. so i looked out the window.

we could clearly hear it. when we called the police, we didn't know what's going on and what we heard. we thought it was like a shooting or something. but then she told us that the police were intervening. so we could hear shootings. and we could hear the helicopters flying. >> she told me that she was woken up by a huge explosion. police stormed into the building and told her to duck down on the floor. she was with her husband and her baby. and then she got really scared and she spent two hours lying down on the floor. police told her to stay down, remain there while they were conducting the operation. then they told her -- they evacuated her and told her to go to city hall. that's where she -- she told me she was scared for her son, that

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of this, planning or execution. and the fact to hear that, pretty surprising this morning. we want to go now to brad garrett, former fbi special agent. we spoke to him earlier this morning and we want to hear a little more about what brad has to hear about this situation. >> reporter: well, one of the keys anytime you're trying to determine if somebody's in a residence, is what intelligence do you have that he's there? in other words, did neighbors call you? did a source call you? what is the situation? and what you try to do is take that and can you actually corroborate it? in other words, what makes you, the police, convinced that this person is in that house? as we just experienced the last couple of days, they entered a house and he wasn't there. they thought he was inside. maybe they had that situation. maybe they don't. but at some point if they have enough time they're going to figure out how to get either cameras or mikes inside a

particular location to actually determine what they can see. and at some juncture, and i think you're reporting, you're hearing noises which may possibly be flash bangs, et cetera, that they may well have entered a residence or an apartment, whatever it might be. >> brad, i was really surprised shortly after these attacks on friday the fbi coming out and saying that they will be upping surveillance in this country and particularly looking for people potentially who suddenly go dark. can you tell us about that and what the fbi is doing post these attacks on friday? >> sure. they've got literally dozens of people they're keeping track of. and what the suggestion is based on what we just saw in paris, is that there is no outward or open communication. now, is there encrypted communication? that remains to be seen. but the key here is that if you have got some players or individuals that you're

particularly concerned about then you're going to you up the surveillance. in other words, the physical surveillance, the electronic surveillance, obviously of cell phones and or hard lines. and i think that's what they're suggesting, that there may be a core group of people that they really have the most concern about, and they're trying to do sort of what they call the tick tock which is literally the tick tock of their life, where are they, where are they going, who are they associating with, et cetera? >> brad, what happens in a situation like this? they're talking about an area molenbeek in brussels that they believe to be the epicenter where the planning took place. they say this community, it is largely muslim, very tight-knit. how does the fbi or any law enforcement crack any source of community that is very tight-knit. even if you up the surveillance in that area, the people aren't tip-off as to what's happening or what people are up to?

>> well, the biggest advantage they have today is even people in communities like that -- this know that the behavior that occurred in paris will come back down on them. and it is in effect i think coming back down on them to a certain extent. so that will get some people to talk to you. but you bring up a point that's been a real issue for the fbi and others during -- since 9/11. you know, there's been complaints from the muslim community that the bureau and other agencies, nypd in particular, are using too aggressive of tactics, they were trying to infiltrate mosques, et cetera. and so you've got that whole component that some of it's working, some of it has not. but you know, it still boils down to two things. human sources and electronic intercepts. and i suspect that's where they're getting the majority of the information that's driving, for example, the current location where they're attempting to apparently go into -- or think about going

into a residence or an apartment. >> all right, brad. i'm just curious about this one thing. because you know, they're saying this morning it's possible abdelhamid abaaoud, and this is the guy suspected behind the "charlie hebdo" attack, the train attack that didn't happen, and now this. and they thought he was in syria, and now it turns out he might possibly be in a suburb of paris in a residential area. does that kind of shock you that that might be the case, that he might have been able to survive there for all this time? >> no. because the ability, particularly in europe, to move around, particularly if you're doing it by car, is just than difficult. and particularly if you have great fake i.d.s and/or somebody else is moving you, i can definitely see that to be a possibility. >> that was former fbi special agent brad garrett giving us a sense of what's going on inside

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coverage of the police raids targeting suspects in the terror attacks in paris. and we want to give you some sound of some eyewitnesses to this morning's raid north of paris. >> i heard an explosion about 20 minutes ago, about six explosions. i didn't count but it was quite a few explosions. it was about 20 minutes ago. >> and what's happening there now? has it gone quiet again there now? >> yes, it seems quiet but then >> i woke up hearing gunshots. and we could hear it. then we called the police to let them know what's going on and what we heard. and we thought it was like a shooting or something. then she told us that the police

was intervening. it's called the raid police. so we could hear the shootings until 5:30 a.m. i think and we could still hear the helicopters. now they're -- >> and she told me that she was woken up by a huge explosion. police stormed into the building and told her to get down on the floor. she was with her husband and her baby. and she got really scared and spent two hours lying down on the floor. police told her to remain there while they were conducting the operation. then they told her to -- they evacuated her and told her to go to the city hall. she told me she's really, really scared, she was scared for her son, that it was a very traumatic experience. >> you're watching live coverage of abc's situation in france. police raids taking place there.

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good morning. we're following breaking news out of france. in a french suburb not far from paris, police terror raids taking place there. our alex marquardt is on the ground right now. alex, we're hearing about police potentially injured as well as some arrests potentially. what can you tell us about the situation there? >> reporter: good morning, reena. there had been earlier reports not long after this raid got under way about 4 1/2 hours ago at 4:30 this morning that several police had been injured. what we do know, what we have what we do know, what we have confirmed with french officials is that one of the suspects that was inside this apartment building that was raided was a woman. she detonated her suicide vest. there are reports from the french news agency that there were at least two others inside that apartment, one of whom was killed, one of w4078 is still

alive. those have not been confirmed. in the last few minutes there has been activity after a rather quiet period easter the last hour and 15 minutes or so. after we heard a loud series of explosions which we believe to have been sound grenades, the kind that police would use as they storm a house. and what's happening now is until now there had been a series of police vehicles here that were blocking the view but in the last few moments they've been moving around. you can see here in front of me a police officer with his rifle at the ready. they've just put on their helmets. there's a lot more activity here. cars driving away -- moments ago out of nowhere a lot of the police officers who had been here just took off running toward another area in this paris suburb. we all went chasing after them to see what was happening. -- minutes they turned back around and came back here with no word as to why.

so again, we understand from the french justice ministry that this raid is either coming to an end or has come -- relatively quiet for the past 75 minutes or so. the french have said that the target of this raid is abdelhamid abaaoud. he is believed to be the mastermind, the organizer of these attacks on friday night that left 129 people dead. very prominent member of isis. he's from belgium. 26 years old. and he was believed to be in syria. now he may be in france. that is the big question to answer this morning. >> that is a big question. many are wondering how he was able to get into that neighborhood, which is a residential neighborhood just north of the city of paris. we're going to continue to follow the developments taking place this morning in paris. police targeting the suspects in friday's terrible attacks on paris. >> and as alex marquardt said, those terror raids coming to an end. we do know a series of terror raids taking place the past few days throughout the country. we will have more live coverage right here on abc. you're watching "world news now."

breaking news this morning in france, explosions in an early morning raid targeting the mastermind behind the paris attacks. >> a standoff as the sun rises. police storming a suburban a skands -- a standoff and more on the terror investigation. we have live coverage. from abc news in new york, this is "america this morning." on this wednesday morning, we continue with abc news breaking coverage out of france. a raid targeting the alleged mastermind in the terror attacks in paris. [ gunfire ]

>> the sights and sounds this morning. s.w.a.t. teams surrounding an apartment building north of paris, looking for isis operative abdelhamid abaaoud. a string of explosions and gunshots could be heard through the night. residents were ordered to stay inside. our abc's correspondent alex marquardt has the latest from the suburb of saint-denis. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, kendis. we're here on the edge of this large perimeter that the french police have set up around that apartment that was raided which is around 200 yards down that way. the clock tower and church has just struck ten. that means about 5.5 hours ago this raid started with gunfire and explosions lasting quite some time. we understand that there were some forces on the ground for three hours. it's been relatively quiet for some time except for a loud series of blasts that sounded like concussion grenades or stun grenades. the kinds of things police use when they raid buildings to stun

suspects. that could have marked the end of this raid. we do understand from the justice ministry that the raid is over. the paris prosecutor's office tells us five people have been arrested. three suspects inside that apartment that they were targeting, and two people, a man and woman, near there. the big question this morning is whether the mastermind, the organizer of the friday attacks that left 129 people dead was inside that apartment. his name is abdelhamid abaaoud. he was believed to be in syria. he's a relatively senior isis leader. quite prominent. he's been featured in many of their propaganda videos, trying to recruit fellow europeans to the isis cause. and also in the more gruesome, barbaric execution isis videos, as well. so the french officials this morning said that he was the target of this raid. right now, we don't know whether he was one of those arrested. >> all right, our abc alex

marquardt standing by in saint-denis. it's a fairly big suburb north of paris. our matt guttman is in another part of saint-denis live for us. >> he arrived shortly after the raid started. matt, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, reena. we are at one of the police perimeters. we keep trying to get closer and closer to where the siege happened, and may still be happening because about ten minutes ago we heard one loud bang. that's after the series of ten bangs that we heard earlier this morning. it sounded again like a concussion grenade. a single explosion. again, nobody is saying what happened or the source of the concussion grenade. police here continue to be edgy. they have their hands on guns, weapons drawn, questioning anybody who comes within 20 feet of them or so. something is still going on here. this is very much an active situation even though we're

hearing that a number of suspects have been detained. and of course that woman who detonated her suicide vest was killed. the target is abdelhamid abaaoud. the number-one most wanted person for france, the person responsible for the heinous at "charlie hebdo" and the attacks on friday. a big black eye for french intelligence that they believed he was in syria when, in fact, he was under their noses. 15 minutes north of this great city, possibly being harbored by someone who lives in this modest, working-class community. people out here by the hundreds. work is closed. they can't go anywhere. the schools have been ordered closed, 12 of them. everything shuttered, it's like a ghost town with the exception

of the police action. paris continues to be on edge. it's hard to overestimate how much this has affected this country. you see it in the eyes of police officers that we're encountering. they are extremely serious. the build-up of forces here in this northern suburb, a mile from the stade de france where the first suicide attackers blew themselves up, kicking off this heinous series of attacks friday night. you can see it in the eyes of the police officers in this massive build-up of forces here. we were on scene very early right after the initial crackle of gunfire, automatic weapons, when we saw first the police roll in, then the counterterrorism forces. men armed to the teeth, wearing ski masks running toward the scene. we saw army trucks piled with soldiers spilling into the street, taking up position. anybody who comes near the officers is being pointed away. not with their hand but with a

weapon. this is still very serious. all the people on the other side of the perimeter are caught. when they go out of their homes, apartments, we've seen them have their hands on their head, trying to be the least threatening as possible. again, officers aren't sure exactly who might be involved in these terrorist actions and who exactly might be a threat to them. significant concern still. it seems like the bulkt operation is over. maybe there's some mop-up action going on still. but very tense here on the streets of paris. >> we know as early as tuesday, french and american intelligence believe that the mastermind behind the attack was inside syria. we also know inside of france, there were at least 168 police raids. have police garnered any new clues from the raids, and is there a sense inside of france that french intelligence missed some opportunities on this? >> reporter: it's hard to tell. again, you mentioned there had been an enormous number of

raids. 128 one night, 150 another night. and one wonders the extent to which the french operations forces had time to prepare for these raids and who they got. we know that a number of arrests have been made throughout the past couple of days. we don't know the significance of them. something clearly led police to people who were bound to do harm. it is confirmed that that one woman did detonate her explosive device. she was wearing a suicide vest which means there may have been a significant other number of weapons stored in this house, in this apartment block where the suspects were hiding out. it's a very tough position for france to be in. and i think one of the things we have to highlight as americans who are not used to being in super that europeans don't need passports to travel. that's why it seems the terrorists have been so ubiquitous throughout europe. we've had a major scare

overnight in germany. at the great stadium that was hosting the netherlands/germany match, the site of a major possible threat vetted by u.s. intelligence authorities and other foreign authorities. indicating that something big was going down. and in fact, the stadium seats almost 50,000 people. among the attendance was also supposed to be german chancellor angela merkel. whatever the intelligence was, it spooked the germans who closed down the city. they said there was a major threat, the entirety of the city, and spirited angela merkel out of there. and of course in belgium, we heard that people were in serbs in bosnia. if you were members of the cell that attacked france, you can travel freely. you don't need to stop at a border post to show i.d. or passports.

you can move fluidly -- >> matt guttman, i have to wrap you up while we reset the situation happening now. as matt was mentioning and alex mentioned, five arrests made this morning, all in connection with the terror attacks that took place friday. you see police setting up the tent. they're in for a long haul there in paris. on the other side of this break, just imagine the horror of the residents of that neighborhood waking up to the sounds of explosions and gunshots. hear from them next.

we are continuing to follow the polic we're continuing to follow the police raids underway in a paris suburb, north of paris, in fact, where a lot of police activity. you can see now. we believe the raids have wrapped up, and at least five people have come under arrest.

from the white house, president obama has been informed about the attacks by his national security team. >> i should mention briefly, as well, that we're also getting word from the french national police that five police officers were also injured during this morning's raid. and in the meantime, as i mentioned, just imagine the horror of residents waking up just five days after the terror attacks and hearing gunshots and explosions. our partners at france 24 spoke with some eyewitnesses earlier. >> i heard an explosion about 20 minutes ago, about six explosions -- i didn't count, but it was quite a few explosions. it was 20 minutes or so ago. >> reporter: what's happening now? that gone quiet now is. >> yes, it seems quiet. for safety reasons i won't be looking too much. yeah, at least 50 police, army vehicles and over 100 soldiers,

police. i saw this people were posting about the shooting. and then at that time, i realized that they were shooting. and i informed my friends and flat mates and people around the area. >> i woke up hearing gunshots. of course the police -- we told them what we heard. it was a shag or something. then he told us that the police was intervening. so we could hear shooting s can still see the helicopters flying. and now we just want to be safe

and i didn't think that would ever happen in my town. it's very weird to see that and terrifying. we can see places that we go often on tv, the police there. i'm shaking right now. >> she told me she was woken up by a huge explosion. and police stormed the building and told her to get down on the floor. she was with her husband and her son who's a baby. and she got scared for two hours lying on the floor. police told them to remain there while they were conducting the operation. they evacuated her and told her to go -- she told me she was really scared for her son, that it was a traumatic experience. >> the fear and terror.

not only eyewitnesss in france but affecting people in other countries, especially in america. the fbi saying they have at least 90 americans inspiring attacks in the united states. the fbi director in the past few days said that the fbi is investigating terror suspects in every single state in the u.s. we want to bring in fbi -- former fbi special agent brad garrett to tell us exactly what's going on here in america. and also david muir after this.

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well, if you're joining us now we h if you're joining us now, we've for the past few hours been following breaking news out of a suburb in paris where police have conducted a significant a terror raid, going after the masterminds of friday's paris attacks. >> five arrests have been made. three from inside an apartment that was targeted. the key target was the mastermind of the attack, abdelhamid abaaoud. we're not sure whether he has been taken into custody as yet. all of this coming some five days after the attacks in paris. meantime, we spoke earlier to abc news contributor brad garrett. we've got him on the opponent. brad? >> one of the keys any time you're trying to determine if somebody's in a residence is what intelligence do you have that he's there. in other words, did neighbors call you, did a source call you, what is the situation? and then what you try to do is

take that, and can you actually corroborate it. in other words, what makes you, the police, convinced that this person is in the house. as we just experienced, we entered a house, and he wasn't there. they thought he was inside. maybe they have that situation, maybe they don't. at some point, if they have enough time, they're going to figure out how to get cameras or mics inside a particular location to actually determine what they can see. and at some juncture, i think you're reporting, you're hearing noises which may possibly be flash bangs, et cetera. they may well have entered a residence or apartment, whatever it might be. >> all right, brad. and -- i'm curious about this one thing because they were saying this morning that it's possible that abdelhamid abaaoud -- this is the guy that's suspected behind the "charlie

hebdo" attack, the train attack that didn't happen, and now this. they thought that he was in syria. and now it turns out he might possibly be in a suburb of paris, in a residential area. does that shock you that that might be the case, that he might have been able to survive there for all this time? >> no, because the ability particularly in europe to move around in -- particularly if you're doing it by car is just not that difficult. particularly if you have great fake i.d.s and/or somebody else is moving you. i can definitely see that to be a possibility. >> fbi special agent brad garrett. in a moment, we'll have abc's david muir with us from paris.

welcome back as we continue

to follow the police raids in france. we want to we want to bring in "world news now" anchor david muir in paris. he arrived shortly after the attacks. what can you tell us about the scene right now? >> reporter: we've been on the scene here this morning. as you see, there's a heavy police presence. the operation is still underway. we know that this operation had to do with abdelhamid abaaoud who, of course, is considered the mastermind of all these coordinated attacks. authorities have not been able to say whether or not he was inside the buildingthatthey have gone into this morning. we know there have been five arrests. three inside the apartment detained, and then a man and woman later detained near that apartment building. we also know that authorities have confirmed that one woman detonated a suicide belt. as we've been reporting for days in the coordinated attacks throughout paris, all of the attackers who took their lives had identical suicide belts that they were wearing. it's unclear if she was part of

that group. >> david, what is the scene now? does it appear as if things have calmed down where you are? it appears we've lost david muir. in the meantime, as we mentioned, this has been ongoing now for about six hours. and you can see the police presence is still there strong in saint-denis. we have several correspondents, and of course "world news tonight" anchor david muir on the scene. >> david talking about what is unclear this hour, police are trying to ascertain that female suicide bomber who detonated her explosive vest. was she part of the same group, the same explosives that were used in the attack on friday? police still trying to work, as you see, on the scene, leaving the apartment area. in the last few minutes, they put up the tent. a great deal more police presence around the complex. >> on the other end of this break, our alex marquardt is close, steps away from the apartment that was the target.

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>> this is this is continuing coverage of the raid in paris. police going after what they believe to be the mastermind of those paris attacks from friday. we just heard from an eyewitness a short time ago saying that he heard more than 50 shots in that area. helicopter activity, explosions. police warning residents it remain in their homes even at this hour. >> it is still a developing situation. we want to go the scene in d saint-denis, north of paris. alex marquardt is there. alex? >> reporter: good morning. that's right, not just an evolving situation, but we understand this is very much an active scene. we had been told by the french justice ministry that the raid is over. abc news, one of my colleagues, just spoke with someone who lives on this street, right across from the apartment that was raided. she said this is an active

scene. the raid started at 4:15 this morning. she and her husband awoken by a loud explosion that launched the raid. we understand that over the course of the next several hours, there were lots of gunshots, waves of gunshots, waves of explosions that resulted in the wounding of around five police officers. the french, paris prosecutor's office tells us that five arr t arrests have been made, three from inside the apartment, two people, a man and woman, near the apartment. the big question is whether a man named abdelhamid abaaoud was inside that apartment. he has been designated the mastermind, the organizer of the paris attacks that left 129 people dead. he was a prominent member of isis, believed to be in syria. he is of belgian origin. he was featured prominently in many of their recruitment videos

for fellow europeans, featured prominently in several propaganda videos. they were more barbaric, showing executions. if he is indeed in paris, just outside of paris where we are in the suburb of saint-denis, police saying he is the target. if he's here, that means he managed to slip through the european intelligence net, make his way from syria back here to france. reena? >> alex marquardt live on scene for the past few hours. thank you very much for your reporting today. we want to remind you, we've got more details coming up later on "good morning america." we ask that you stick with us. we've been following these continuing coverage over the past few hours of the police raids in paris -- excuse me, in france. not far from paris. >> yeah, quite a development this morning. police making several arrests, several police officers injured. "gma" will have live coverage with all the latest coming up. thanks for joining us.

breaking news in france. beneficia [ gunfire ] heavy gunfire and explosions in an early morning raid targeting the mastermind behind the paris attacks. a standoff as the sun rises. police storming a suburban neighborhood. a dramatic turn in the terror investigation. we have live coverage. from abc news in new york, this is "america this morning." >> on this wednesday morning, we continue with abc news breaking coverage out of france. a raid targeting the alleged mastermind of the terror attacks in paris.

>> the sights and sounds, s.w.a.t. teams surrounding an apartment north of paris looking for isis operative abdelhamid abaaoud. a string of explosions and gunshots could be heard through the night. residents ordered to stay inside. our abc correspondent, alex marquardt, has the latest from the paris suburb of saint-denis. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. we're on the edge of this large perimeter that the french police set up around the apartment that was raided, around 200 yards down that way. the clock tower just struck 10:00. 5.5 hours ago, the raid started with gunfire and explosions lasting quite some time. we understand that there were forces on the ground for about three hours. it's been relatively quiet for quite some time except for a large series of blasts that sounded like concussion grenades

or stun grenades, the things police use whether they raid buildings to -- when they raid buildings to stun suspects. that could have marked the end of this raid. we understand from the french just ministry the raid is over. the paris prosecutor's office tells us that five people have been arrested, three suspects inside that apartment that they were targeting, and two people, a man and a woman, near that. now the big question this morning is whether the mastermind, the organizer of those friday attacks that left 129 people dead, was inside that apartment. his name is abdelhamid abaaoud. he was believed to be in syria. he's a relatively senior isis leader, quite prominent. he's been featured in many of their propaganda videos trying to recruit fellow europeans to the isis cause. and also in the more gruesome, barbaric execution isis videos, as well. the french officials this morning said that he was the target of this raid. right noi nw we don't know if h

was one of those arrested. >> alex marquardt standing by in saint-denis. a fairly big suburb north of paris. matt guttman is in another part of saint-denis live. >> he arrived shortly after the raid started. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. we are at one of the police perimeters. we keep trying to get closer and closer to where the siege happened and may still be happening. ten minutes ago, we heard a loud bang, that's after the series of ten bangs we heard earlier this morning. again sounded like a concussion grenade, single explosion. nobody saying what happened or the source of the concussion grenade. police here to be very edgy. i'm right at the blockade, and they keep pushing us back. they have their hands on guns, weapons drawn, pointing at anybody who comes within 20 feet of them or so. something is still going on here. this is very much an active situation even though we're

hearing that a number of suspects have been detained. of course, the woman who detonated her suicide vest was killed. the target of that raid, of course, is abdelhamid abaaoud. the number-one most-wanted person for france, the person responsible for those heinous attacks at the "charlie hebdo" in january, and of course the attacks on friday. a big black eye for french intelligence, the fact that they believed he was in syria when in fact he was under their noses. 15 minutes north of the heart of the great city. possibly being harbored by someone who lives in this modest, working class community. people out here by the hundreds. work is closed, they can't travel anywhere. they can't go anywhere. the schools have been ordered to be closed, 12 of them. all the doors shuddered.

gawkers looking at the police action. it's hard to overestimate how much this has affected the countries. you see it in the eyes of the police officers that we are encountering. they are extremely serious, and the build-up of forces right here in this northern suburb just about a mile away from the stade de france, where the three suicide attackers blew themselves up, kicking off the heinous series of attacks on friday night. you can see it in the eyes of the police officers in this massive build-up of forces here. we were on scene very, very early right after the initial crackle of gunfire, automatic weapons when we saw the police roll in. then we saw the counterterrorism forces, men armed to the teeth wearing ski masks, running toward the scene. we saw army trucks piled with soldiers, spilling out into the street, taking up positions. and anybody who comes here these officers is being pointed away, not with a hand but with a weapon. this is still very serious.

all the people still on the other side of the perimeter are caught. when they go out of their homes, their apartments, we've seen them with hands on their head trying to be least threatening as possible. again, officers aren't sure exactly what might be involved in these terrorist actions and who exactly might be a threat. significant concern here still. it seems like the bulk of the operation is over. maybe there's some mop-up action going on still. but very, very tense here on the streets of paris. >> and that we know as early as tuesday, both french and american intelligence believe that the mastermind behind the attack was inside syria. we also know inside of france there were at least 168 police raids. have police garnered any new clues from those raids, and is there a sense inside of france that french intelligence missed some opportunities on this? >> reporter: it's hard to tell. again, you mentioned it, there have been an enormous number of

raids. 128 one nationwide, 150 another night. and one wonders the extent to which the french special operations forces had time to actually prepare for these raids. and who they got. we know that a number of arrests have been made throughout the past couple of days. we don't know the significance of them. something clearly led police to people who are bound to do harm. it is confirmed that that one woman did detonate her explosive device. she was wearing a suicide vest which means that there may have been a significant other number of weapons stored in this house, in this apartment block, where the suspects were hiding out. it's a very tough position for france to be in. i think one of the things that we have to highlight as americans who are not used to being in europe is that europeans don't need passports or i.d.s to travel. that is why it seems that these terrorists have been so ubiquitous throughout europe. we've had a major scare

overnight in germany. the great stadium that was hosting the netherlands/germany match. the site of a major possible threat vetted by u.s. and other foreign authorities indicating that something big was going down. in fact, the stadium seats almost 50,000 people. among the attendants of also supposed to be german chancellor angela merkel. whatever that intelligence was, it certainly spooked the germans who closed down the city. they said there's a major threat in the entirety of the city. of course, spirited angela merkel out of there. of course in belgium, we heard reports that these people were in bosnia and other countries. the fact is if you are a belgian citizen like abdelhamid abaaoud or members of the cell that attacked france, you can travel freely. you don't need to stop at a border post to show your i.d. or passports. you can move fluidly throughout

the country -- >> matt guttman there. i have to wrap you up while we -- we reset the situation that is happening right now. once again, as matt was mentioning and like mentioned, some five arrests made this morning all in connection with the terror attacks that took place last friday. you see police setting up that tent. they're in for a long haul there in paris. on the other side of this break, just imagine the horror of the residents of that neighborhood waking up to the sounds of explosions and gunshots. hear f

we're continuing to follow the police raids underway in a paris suburb, north of paris, in fact, where a lot of police activity. you can see now. we believe the raids have wrapped up, and at least five people have come under arrest. from the white house, president obama has been informed about

the attacks by his national security team. >> i should mention briefly, as well, that we're also getting word from the french national police that five police officers were also injured during this morning's raid. and in the meantime, as i mentioned, just imagine the horror of residents waking up just five days after the terror attacks and hearing gunshots and explosions. our partners at france 24 spoke with some eyewitnesses earlier. >> i heard an explosion about 20 minutes ago, about six explosions -- i didn't count, but it was quite a few explosions. it was 20 minutes or so ago. >> reporter: what's happening now? that gone quiet now is. -- has it gone quiet now? >> yes, it seems quiet. for safety reasons i won't be looking too much. yeah, at least 50 police, army vehicles and over 100 soldiers, police. i saw this people were posting

about the shooting. and then at that time, i realized that they were shooting. and i informed my friends and flat mates and people around the area for over half an hour. >> i woke up hearing gunshots. we could hear it, and we told police what we heard. it was a shooting or something. then he told us that the police was intervening. so we could hear shootings and can still see the helicopters flying. and now we just want to be safe. and i didn't think that would ever happen in my town. it's very weird to see that and terrifying.

we can see places that we go often on tv, the police there. i'm shaking right now. >> she told me she was woken up by a huge explosion. and police stormed the building and told her to get down on the floor. she was with her husband and her son who's a baby. and she got scared for two hours lying on the floor. police told them to remain there while they were conducting the operation. they evacuated her and told her to go -- she told me she was really scared for her son, that it was a traumatic experience. >> the fear and terror. not only eyewitnesss in france but affecting people in other countries, especially in america.

the fbi saying they have at least 90 americans inspiring attacks in the united states. the fbi director in the past few days said that the fbi is investigating terror suspects in every single state in the u.s. we want to bring in fbi -- former fbi special agent brad garrett to tell us exactly what's going on here in america. and also david muir after this. hd 8.

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well, if you're joi if you're joining us now, we've for the past few hours been following breaking news out of a suburb in paris where police have conducted a significant a terror raid, going after the masterminds of friday's paris attacks. >> five arrests have been made. three from inside an apartment that was targeted. the key target was the mastermind of the attack, abdelhamid abaaoud. we're not sure whether he has been taken into custody as yet. all of this coming some five days after the attacks in paris. meantime, we spoke earlier to abc news contributor brad garrett. we've got him on the opponent. brad? >> one of the keys any time you're trying to determine if somebody's in a residence is what intelligence do you have that he's there.

in other words, did neighbors call you, did a source call you, what is the situation? and then what you try to do is take that, and can you actually corroborate it. in other words, what makes you, the police, convinced that this person is in the house. as we just experienced, we entered a house, and he wasn't there. they thought he was inside. maybe they have that situation, maybe they don't. at some point, if they have enough time, they're going to figure out how to get cameras or mics inside a particular location to actually determine what they can see. and at some juncture, i think you're reporting, you're hearing noises which may possibly be flash bangs, et cetera. they may well have entered a residence or apartment, whatever it might be. >> all right, brad. and -- i'm curious about this one thing because they were saying this morning that it's possible that abdelhamid abaaoud -- this is the guy that's

suspected behind the "charlie hebdo" attack, the train attack that didn't happen, and now this. they thought that he was in syria. and now it turns out he might possibly be in a suburb of paris, in a residential area. does that shock you that that might be the case, that he might have been able to survive there for all this time? >> no, because the ability particularly in europe to move around in -- particularly if you're doing it by car is just not that difficult. particularly if you have great fake i.d.s and/or somebody else is moving you. i can definitely see that to be a possibility. >> fbi special agent brad garrett. in a moment, we'll have abc's david muir with us from paris. abc's david muir with us from paris.

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to follow the police raids in welcome back as we continue to follow the police raids in france. we want to bring in "world news now" anchor david muir in paris. he arrived shortly after the attacks. what can you tell us about the scene right now? >> reporter: we've been on the scene here this morning. as you see, there's a heavy police presence. the operation is still underway. we know that this operation had to do with abdelhamid abaaoud who, of course, is considered the mastermind of all these coordinated attacks. authorities have not been able to say whether or not he was inside the building that they have gone into this morning. we know there have been five arrests. three inside the apartment detained, and then a man and woman later detained near that apartment building. we also know that authorities have confirmed that one woman detonated a suicide belt. as we've been reporting for days in the coordinated attacks throughout paris, all of the attackers who took their lives had identical suicide belts that they were wearing.

it's unclear if she was part of that group. >> david, what is the scene now? does it appear as if things have calmed down where you are? it appears we've lost david muir. in the meantime, as we mentioned, this has been ongoing now for about six hours. and you can see the police presence is still there strong in saint-denis. we have several correspondents, and of course "world news tonight" anchor david muir on the scene. >> david talking about what is unclear this hour, police are trying to ascertain that female suicide bomber who detonated her explosive vest. was she part of the same group, the same explosives that were used in the attack on friday? police still trying to work, as you see, on the scene, leaving the apartment area. in the last few minutes, they put up the tent. a great deal more police presence around the complex. >> on the other end of this break, our alex marquardt is close, steps away from the apartment that was the target. he will join us live from paris next.

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at jared. this is continuing coverage of the raid in paris. police going after what they believe to be the mastermind of those paris attacks from friday. we just heard from an eyewitness a short time ago saying that he heard more than 50 shots in that area. helicopter activity, explosions. police warning residents it remain in their homes even at this hour. >> it is still a developing situation. we want to go the scene in saint-denis, north of paris. alex marquardt is there. alex? >> reporter: good morning. that's right, not just an evolving situation, but we understand this is very much an active scene. we had been told by the french justice ministry that the raid is over. abc news, one of my colleagues, just spoke with someone who lives on this street, right across from the apartment that was raided.

she said this is an active scene. the raid started at 4:15 this morning. she and her husband awoken by a loud explosion that launched the raid. we understand that over the course of the next several hours, there were lots of gunshots, waves of gunshots, waves of explosions that resulted in the wounding of around five police officers. the french, paris prosecutor's office tells us that five arrests have been made, three from inside the apartment, two people, a man and woman, near the apartment. the big question is whether a man named abdelhamid abaaoud was inside that apartment. he has been designated the mastermind, the organizer of the paris attacks that left 129 people dead. he was a prominent member of isis, believed to be in syria. he is of belgian origin. he was featured prominently in many of their recruitment videos for fellow europeans, featured prominently in several

propaganda videos. they were more barbaric, showing executions. if he is indeed in paris, just outside of paris where we are in the suburb of saint-denis, police saying he is the target. if he's here, that means he managed to slip through the european intelligence net, make his way from syria back here to france. reena? >> alex marquardt live on scene for the past few hours. thank you very much for your reporting today. we want to remind you, we've got more details coming up later on "good morning america." we ask that you stick with us. we've been following these continuing coverage over the past few hours of the police raids in paris -- excuse me, in france. not far from paris. >> yeah, quite a development this morning. police making several arrests, several police officers injured. "gma" will have live coverage with all the latest coming up. thanks for joining us.

breaking news this morning in france, heavy gunfire and explosions in an early morning raid targeting the mastermind behind the paris attacks. >> a standoff as the sun rises. police storming a suburban neighborhood. a dramatic turn in the terror investigation. we have live team coverage. on this wednesday morning we continue with abc news breaking coverage out of france. there's word that the raid is over. two people are dead. but the suspected master mind of the attacks is believed to still be in the area. >> the sights and sounds this morning, s.w.a.t. teams surr