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it's a good fit for you? or is it the lakers' mystique you that love? >> all of it. but the main thing is just being home. i like being home. hometown kid. and they're right here in l.a. where i'm from. >> jimmy: no interest in the clippers? >> they don't really have a chance. so no. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: you guys are going to be in so much trouble by the end of this interview. >> we don't get in trouble. we all right. we go our own way. >> jimmy: my son -- i have two sons. one of them is not going to be a basketball player even though he's a big kid. he's already 23 years old. i have a 2-month-old baby. how do i train him to make him a superstar athlete like you have done with your son and your other two sons as well? >> i hate to tell you, but it's going to cost you. you've got to bring them to me for the first six months. then i give them back to you and he'll be easy to train. >> jimmy: how do you train a two-month-old child to become -- >> only one trainer can do that, and that's me. >> jimmy: well, let me ask you this. in addition to basketball training do you do potty training? because that would help.
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[ laughter ] >> of course. that's included. that's what it starts with. [ laughter ] that's what it starts with. the training. here's the key. don't let them wake you up. you wake them up. >> jimmy: oh. did you ever wake your father up? >> i don't remember. >> jimmy: you don't remember. do you get annoyed having your dad around in these situations? i can't even imagine having my dad with me on a show or something like that. >> no, i love him. he's always been there for me. >> jimmy: blink three times if you feel like you want him to go away. [ laughter ] [ applause ] well, i have to say, i know a lot of people get mad but i think it's all funny. i think it's fun. i don't know. you're like stirring everybody up. everybody's getting so mad at you guys. >> here's the thing. we've got a close relationship. >> jimmy: obviously. >> i know what he's about. he knows what i'm about. >> jimmy: what is he about? >> yes. >> just wants the best for his
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kids. >> jimmy: wants the best for his kids. and that's great. [ applause ] you have two other brothers. who's the best -- who's going to be in your opinion the best player of the three of you when all is said and done? >> each one of them think they're going to be the best. i'll break it down to you. right now lonzo's the best. melo's going to be the best because he gets the most experience. >> jimmy: i see. interesting. do you feel a rivalry, a genuine sibling rivalry to be the best one in your family? >> oh, yeah. i'm going to be the best. >> jimmy: you're going to be the best. >> by far. i don't think it's close. [ applause ] >> jimmy: a lot of people we were talking about the shoes -- i have the shoes. >> uh-oh. give them a drum roll when you bring these shoes out. there you go. >> jimmy: before i bring out the shoes -- >> you don't just bring no ball shoes out. >> jimmy: people are upset because they're $495, right? >> right. >> jimmy: but what those people don't know is they come in this
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lucite case. >> give me some music or something. ♪ >> jimmy: this case comes with them? >> comes with them. >> jimmy: so really it's like -- you can not only use them for the shoes but if you had a very talented hamster or something that likes to do little shows you could use it for this. [ laughter ] >> i don't know about that. you've got to tie the shoes down because once you open it they fly. >> jimmy: you know, i'm not going to open it because i don't want to lose them. >> that's what i'm telling you. they're monsters. they're ready to come out. >> jimmy: in your prime you said you could beat michael jordan one on one. >> yes. >> jimmy: is that just -- >> no, you know it's real too. he too slow. he's too little. if you weighing 210 pounds, we're playing one on one, you know i'm undefeated one on one. i don't ever lose one on one. >> jimmy: did you ever play michael jordan? >> if he played me, he would cry. >> jimmy: has there been any talk of you playing him now? >> who'd want to watch two 50-year-olds play now? >> jimmy: i'd want to watch it.
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[ applause ] would you want to watch it? of course you'd want to watch it. but you beat michael jordan. i'm not talking about in his prime. i'm talking about now. >> right now? yes. >> jimmy: you could beat michael jordan right now. >> yeah. >> jimmy: your father doesn't think so. >> i don't think so. i'm looking at him saying -- you can't be -- >> jimmy: i don't know. >> he'll beat anybody 50 years old. >> jimmy: i'm almost 50. there's no way you would beat me. no way. just wouldn't happen. >> this is your show. so i won't talk back. >> jimmy: i have a different game, though. i play a game called imaginary basketball where there's no actual ball. we just go like this. and i make it every time. >> you won't miss. >> jimmy: oh, yeah. it's really unbelievable. >> unwhat? >> jimmy: unbelievable. >> emphasis on the ball. >> jimmy: oh, on the ballievable. can i give you a little advice? david hasselhoff gets in a situation like that where everything became don't hassle
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the hoff and this is hof fuchlt l. you don't want your name to become one of those things like that. >> no, mine is like that. i said ball at the end. unbelieve-a-ball. >> jimmy: it is unbelievable you started your own shoe company instead of taking an enormous check from one of the other shoe companies. will you do this with a sports drink? will there be a ball juice in our future? [ laughter ] >> yes. [ applause ] get your ball juice and get your ball off. >> jimmy: i hope we can work on this together. i hope it's not just the family included in this empire. because listen, i need help over here. >> we're going to build this ball empire. >> jimmy: you know what? i hope it goes as perfectly as you want it to. i hope it goes as perfectly as you want it to. i hope you wind up a los angeles laker and you get to play here. [ applause ] lavar and lonzo ball. watch the nba draft on 227 on espn. and big baller brand shoes are available for preorder now. we'll be right back with phoenix! [ cheers and applause ]
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♪ combing that honey ♪ into some gold ♪ take that gold and make it an o ♪ ♪ good goes around and around and around hey! ♪ ♪ bee to hive to the o ♪ oat from the farm is the yum in yo bowl ♪ ♪ put in the good and the good will grow ♪ ♪ good goes around and around and around hey! ♪ ♪ good goes around good goes around and around and around. hey! ♪
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>> dicky: the "jimmy kimmel live" concert series is presented by mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. >> jimmy: thanks to diane keaton. thanks to lonzo and lavar ball. apologies to matt damon. we did run out of time for him. "nightline" is next. but first, this is their album. it's called "ti amo." here with the title track, phoenix! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ i don't like it as it is ♪ a disaster scenario ♪ so don't look at what you
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did ♪ ♪ this melted gelato ♪ love you ti amo je t'aim ti amo je t'aime te quiro ♪ ♪ it's not love but wait ♪ i'll be standing by the jukebox ♪ ♪ champagne or process echo ♪ i was playing classics by the buzz kokz ♪ ♪ battiato and lucio ♪ love you ti amo je t'aime te quiero ♪ ♪ don't tell me, don't tell me no ♪ ♪ don't tell me, don't tell me ♪ no ♪ i said ti amo till we get
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along ♪ ♪ don't tell me, don't tell me ♪ don't tell me, don't tell me ♪ don't tell me, don't tell me no ♪ ♪ aol say ti amo till we get along ♪ ♪ you don't mind it as it is ♪ bonanza che che che che c ♪ we'll show you how to win ♪ my festival di san remo ♪ love you ti amo je t'aime te quiero ♪ ♪ it's not over yet ♪ now i'm looking like the bad cop ♪ ♪ sunbathing in rio ♪ sophisticated soft rock ♪ love you ti amo je t'aime te quiero ♪
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this is "nightline." >> tonight the warriors are nba champions again. >> the warriors stealing the crown from king james and the cavs, capping off an historic playoff run with a masterful nba finals finish. and wrong face, wrong time. a man spending nearly 17 years behind bars for a robbery he swore he didn't commit. until one day a shocking discovery. another prisoner his dead ringer. turns out we may all have a doppelganger out there. how he tracked down his look-alike and won his release. plus, bearproof. businesses pitting their products against hungry grizzlies. to be certified bear resistant. how this ferocious fight club is actually saving lives. and --
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♪ good evening. thanks for joining us. it was a golden night for goldn state as the warriors-cavaliers rivalry is shaping up to be one of the greatest in nba history. tonight it was fireworks and redemption. the warriors firing on all cylinders. the team winning their second nba title in three years against lebron james and the cleveland cavaliers. lebron and the cavs came out swinging to start the game. but it just wasn't enough to stop the four-headed monster of the warriors. kevin durant led the team with 39 points and with the help of the splash brothers they put the series to bed in just five games. the victory, sweet for golden state fans, who spent the past year reeling after blowing a 3-1 lead to the cavs in last year's finals. congratulations to dub nation. and we turn now to a fairly different type of redemption story. a man who maintained his
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innocence through almost 17 years in prison has finally been released. thanks to his own detective work helping to track down his own look-alike. turns out looks can be deceiving. here's abc's alex perez. >> reporter: finally free. after 17 years behind bars a man who says he was wrongfully convicted returning to lovingars arms. >> i hoped and prayed every day for this day to come and when it finally got here it was an overwhelming feeling. >> reporter: richard jones's nightmare over after tracking down another prisoner, his doppelganger, and the discovery kags doubt on h casting doubt on his guilty verdict. >> i believe it was a striking resemblance. it just blew me away. >> reporter: nearly 20 years ago jones was charged with aggravated robbery in kansas city, kansas after being accused of trying to steal a purse in a parking lot. jones had provided an alibi, and no physical evidence ever linked him to the crime. the case relied instead on eyewitness testimony. the victim told police the suspect was thin to medium
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build, tan with dark hair he pulled back, and out of a photo line-up of six mugshots jones was identified. that eyewitness testimony landed him behind bars. but all along jones adamantly maintained his innocence and tried to appeal his conviction. >> i couldn't let someone else's mistake make me waver in my faith and make me shy away from what was real and what the truth was and that was i was innocent and i knew it. >> reporter: after 15 years of incarceration and declined motions, richard jones reached out to the university of kansas school of law project for innocence and the midwest innocence project where law students took on his case and met with their client. >> during that visit mr. jones actually said to the students i keep getting mistaken for this guy named ricky amos. >> reporter: back at the office the students searched the kansas department of corrections data base for ricky amos, and here's what they found. that's jones on the right, amos
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on the left. both men with almost identical skin tone, facial hair, and cornrows. >> that was sort of a jumping off point to try to get mr. jones back into court to challenge his conviction. what would the victim and the other people that identified them say if shown these pictures. >> reporter: but the discovery of this doppelganger came only at the end of a case founded on what many considered to be an imperfect law enforcement tool. >> eyewitness identification testimony is always problematic because it's highly unreliable. memories are not recorded playbacks like most of us think. memories are recalled. it's a recollection, and there's a lot of inaccuracy that goes hand in hand with that. >> reporter: and in fact -- >> about 72% of wrongful convictions come from mistaken eyewitness identifications. >> reporter: the docket at the innocence project reflects the national statistics on wrongful
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convictions based on faulty eyewitness testimony. >> if i was going to survive i wanted to be able to bring the police a description of who had just raped me. >> reporter: jennifer kanino's detailed account of her rape led to the conviction of ronald carton. in 1984 then 22-year-old kanino was attacked in her home. >> ieard a noise in my beugdroom and i said, who is that? who's there? and then at that moment someone jumped up and jumped on top of me. i screamed, and then he muffled my scream with a gloved hand and put a knife to the side of my neck. >> reporter: the assailant brutally raped her. she said that she kept her eyes open throughout the attack, trying to memorize every identifying feature. >> maybe if he had an accent or a dialect that was different or if he had any unusual scars or tattoos or maybe he had lost a tooth or something that would be a feature that he couldn't alter later on.
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>> reporter: conton, who was also then 22 years old, was sentenced to life in prison. he never gave up his fight. and in 1995 with the help of new dna technology he was exonerated. >> my spirit just like disintegrated. i felt so much shame and so much guilt for having been really a large part responsible. not maliciously responsible but imperfectly responsible for a man losing 11 years of his life. and it didn't matter how many times i said i was sorry. it didn't matter what i did. i couldn't give him back those years. >> jennifer thompson and ronald cotton's case is just a very powerful reminder of how not accurate our memories often are even when we want them to be. their case just exemplifies a lot of the problems that happened in mr. jones's case across racial identification, a
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very bad police line-up. they are very closely linked in the issues that they raise. >> reporter: jones and amos had never met until a hearing last wednesday, when witnesses admitted they couldn't tell the two apart and the judge ordered jones released. >> it made a lot of things understandable for me concerning this whole case because i just looked at how much me and this man looked alike and it was -- it was unbelievable. >> reporter: amos has denied any involvement with the crime he was never charged with or found guilty of the robbery. though most anecdotes about doppelgangers may not usually involve crime and possible mistaken identity, the mysterious phenomenon in which two people look nearly identical is fairly common. >> are you two twins? >> reporter: like matty renslow and patty eckhart. the pair are mistaken for twins but are complete strangers. >> no. you're kidding me. >> reporter: folklore has it that we each have seven
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look-alikes out there in the world. dublin native nia gainey is working to prove that theory. she's already met three of her own doppelgangers. >> oh, my god. >> reporter: since then nia's become a doppelganger detective of sorts. >> these are all the filtered matches. >> reporter: co-founding the website twinstrangers.com to help others in their search. >> we have over a million people registered at the website, and we have thousands of matches. >> reporter: as for richard jones the discovery of his doppelganger opened the door to his release. after nearly two decades jones has just begun rebuilding his life. >> i'm definitely built for the challenge, just living my life starting over, and just doing it right this time. >> reporter: for "nightline" i'm alex perez in chicago. up next, it's can versus beasts. the life and death reason behind this container cage fight.
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if you're like me, you wouldn't dream of buying anything unless it could withstand a grizzly bear attack. that's just me. but how would you really know when something is bearproof? just ask abc's gloria riviera. >> reporter: in west yellowstone, montana the bears are boss. >> oh, man. >> reporter: breaking into these manmade products their singular
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goal. >> this bear has a nickname. >> buck the destroyer. >> reporter: it's not just play, it's their day job. >> she got in that first little bit and then started tearing apart on the styrofoam. >> reporter: these grizzlies are grizzled vets, testing products to certify as bear resistant before they hit the market. >> reporter: the mama bear and her two cubs were rummaging through a dumpster looking for food. >> reporter: bears getting too close for comfort happens all too often. the lure of an easy meal tempting bears out of the wild and into neighborhoods. sometimes even breaking into houses like this one in colorado. ♪ but here at the grizzly and wolf discovery center, that curiosity and that fight become assets. >> he's going for it. >> reporter: the bite force of a grizzly, about 1,200 pounds per square inch, is nearly eight times that of a human. here in yellowstone these bears can weigh upwards of 700 pounds. in some food-rich regions of the u.s. and canada up to 1,700. bill michaels has been in the business 30 years.
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he's come from arizona to put his product to the test. >> if you allow bears to get into trash cans, they keep coming back. it's an easy meal. >> reporter: today's victim a new 65-gallon refuse container, the kodiak can. >> start to finish you know how -- >> absolutely. made all the tooling ourselves, designed it. >> so how much have you had to change the product to become bear safe? >> this is the third generation. >> reporter: years of work, roughly $250,000 in producing costs are on the line. >> some dried dog kibble. >> reporter: tone tice the bears to the can manager randy grabit fills the container. >> apple butter, hummckleberry jam. >> breakfast of the champions. >> they set the bait. >> quite often bears will drag objects in the pond. that's why we're doing it, so it does not go in the pond. animal, we are ready. >> reporter: and let the
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grizzlies have at it. >> look at it, he's using his claws. look at those claws. >> they have so much power in those claws, they can just rip right through plastic. >> that bear is 350 pounds. the container? >> 42 pounds. >> 42 pounds. >> reporter: to get that all-important bear-resistant certificate a product must withstand 60 minutes of bear contact. >> that's the rule. 60 minutes. >> reporter: and if you pass, bearproof. >> you're done. >> reporter: you're done. okay. >> then you get a certificate. >> reporter: you get a certificate and your product on the market. >> that's right. >> reporter: round one is called. halfway there. >> it's holding up. >> reporter: it's holding up. >> it's still early. it ain't over till it's over. >> reporter: it ain't over till it's over. >> grizzly bears are truly opportunistic omnivores. their diet changes from day to day, from season to season, from year to year. >> reporter: the man who knows more than most, dr. frank van manon, a leading bear scientist devoted to these majestic animals for nearly
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