that's our report, we appreciate your time. have a g >> dicky: from hollywood it's "jimmy kimmel live." tonight -- christian slater, former white house press secretary sean spicer, and music from dan + shay. and now, to whom it may concern, here's jimmy kimmel! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: hi, welcome. very nice. hi, i'm jimmy. i'm the host of the show. thank you for watching. thanks for coming. i'm so glad we could have this, you know, this moment. very nice.

i appreciate that. since you're in such a festive mood, here's a fun fact about me. sometimes when i'm on the highway and i see one of those trucks that say how am i driving on the back rl i call the number and say, "pretty good." [ laughter ] speed's fine. nothing unusual. from back here, everything looks a-okay, i'm going to hang up. [ cheers and applause ] you ever do anything like that, guillermo? >> guillermo: no, never. >> jimmy: give it a shot. not everything has to be a complaint all the time, you know? we have an interesting show for you tonight. christian slater and sean spicer are here. [ cheers and applause ] not together, though. they arrived separately, they will be leaving separately. you may remember sean spicer from his work in the hilarious 2017 comedy show "the white house press briefings." that seems like it was a hundred years ago, doesn't it? he must be so happy to be out of there.

the paul manafort trial started today. [ cheers and applause ] that is something i would want no part of. paul manafort, the president's former campaign chairman, was indicted on charges of disguising more than $30 million in shady foreign income by moving it through offshore accounts, lying to the banks, evading taxes on that money. if convicted he could get 305 years in prison. for a fake news witch hunt, that's a lot of years. [ laughter ] real years. prosecutors say they do not intend to get into questions about collusion between russia and the trump campaign in this case. they are focused on how mr. manafort handled the money he earned working as a consultant in ukraine. he had lavish spending habits, they announced today. this morning they said he bought a $15,000 ostrich jacket. see, that should be what he has to wear in jail. [ laughter ] that should be his only article of clothe, just sitting in a cell dressed up like big bird, waiting for the trial to start.

this is an importantmueller, it of what might be a number involving the swamp people. trump's lawyer rudy giuliani made an interesting announcement, perhaps you saw he said, collusion is not a crime. you'll never guess who also happened to see that. the president tweeted, collusion is not a crime, but that doesn't matter, because there was no collusion, except by crooked hillary and the democrats. then why bring it up? if you're following along at home, the defense is now this. donald trump didn't collude, but if he did, it isn't a crime. but he didn't. but if he did? we should lock hillary up. [ laughter ] that makes sense, right? [ cheers and applause ] now that collusion isn't a crime, i think i know where this is headed. here's the news for the next six months. they prove trump is guilty of collusion, none of his supporters care, most of his

fellow republican politicians don't care. in 2020 we elect vladimir putin president of the united states. then wow all start wearing big, fuzzy hats. that's how it's going to go. remember when trump spent years questioning obama's birth certificate and got these nuts scared that a foreign power might secretly be running our government? i guess that's not scary anymore. [ laughter ] meanwhile, you know how president trump said north korea is no longer a nuclear threat? well, oops. according to u.s. intelligence, not only isn't north korea curtailing their nuclear activity, they may be building new intercontinental ballistic missiles. kim jong-un, as you may recall, specifically said he would not build any more missiles. but turns out in korean "would not" means "would" just like in trumpian. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] so it's really, absolutely shocking. kim jong-un gave donald trump his word, they even shook hands on it! let's look at the footage, because in the world of footage maybe there was a clue in there

somewhere? maybe there's something we missed, some kind of body language, perhaps? he had his fingers crossed. i have to say this is so disappointing. it's like, who can you trust anymore? it is kind of surprising that kim jong-un would do something like this. he really seemed to be warming up to western society. he and his security team, i don't know if you saw this, his security team even did their own version of the "in my feelings" challenge. ♪ ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: it's a song he uses to tear tour his relatives with. we've seen a lot of brutal battles on the campaign trail over the past few years. but i'm pretty sure this is a first. a candidate for a seat in the virginia house has accused her opponent of being an aficionado of sass squash porn.

that's right. leslie coberg wrote, my opponent, denver riggleman, caught on camera campaigning with a white supremacist, now exposed as a devotee of bigfoot erotica, this is not what we need on capitol hill. it isn't? i think it might be. then she posted a photo of a book cover from riggleman's insta cram, "cover art for mating habits of bigfoot almost complete, i hide nothing in this magnificent tome." she shared this from my oppon t opponent's bigfoot erot ka collection, his head on a bigfoot body. riggleman said the images were a joke, he's not into that, the book he's working on is a legitimate thing as people who study bigfoot. he didn't know there was a thing

such as bigfoot erotica. i didn't know either. turns out there is. not only is bigfoot porn a thing, there's a whole world of mythical monster erotica. these are real books we found. these can be purchased on amazon right now. lured by the loch ness monster? that's part of the fantasy series. there's another called "mounted by a merman." "werewolves love big girls part 3" for fans of part 1 and 2. a soon to be classic," frankenstein's bitch." and we wonder why no one reads anymore. [ applause ] the internet is a mysterious place. there's so much weirdness. i have two young children at home so i like to keep up with what the kids are into, which is challenging, because there's so much out there. with the fortnight, the five

night, it's nuts. i asked my 5-year-old to teach me about something she enjoys online. she introduced me to a world i was unaware of, the world of makeup tutorials. ♪ ♪ >> so this is my goddaughter frankie. you watch these makeup tutori tutorials? >> yes. >> jimmy: what do you try to learn from these things? >> um -- makeup. >> jimmy: how do i do makeup? >> yeah. >> jimmy: and do you wear makeup? >> only at my grandma's house but not a lot. >> jimmy: your grandma is my aunt chippy. >> yeah. >> jimmy: and she really does a beautiful job with her makeup. ♪ so do you want your makeup to look like your grandma chippy's? >> no, no. >> jimmy: no, not really, not really. okay. well, what about fake eyelashes? do you like those? >> no. >> jimmy: did you know your

grandma wears fake eyelashes? >> yes. >> jimmy: yes. what do you think of those? >> um, disgusting. >> jimmy: they're disgusting, why are they disgusting? >> because, um, you have no eyelashes on and it's really hurtful. >> jimmy: yeah, right. you're gluing what looks like a bat to your face. >> yeah. >> jimmy: right? then another bat to match it. yeah. so let's watch one of these makeup tutorials. you can tell me about it, all right? >> okay. >> jimmy: all right. this is a my little pony video. >> yeah. >> jimmy: oh, okay. why are her eyes purple? >> i don't know. >> jimmy: that's weird, isn't it. >> yeah. >> jimmy: let's watch one of these other ones here, see what they have. this one's a deer makeup tutorial. they make you up to look like a deer. >> yeah. >> jimmy: do you think you could do that? >> yeah. >> jimmy: you want to watch this and try doing deer makeup to me? >> yeah. >> jimmy: okay. let's try it. all right. go crazy. >> okay. >> jimmy: do i look like a deer yet? >> no. >> jimmy: are people going to

call me a racist online after this? [ laughter ] >> i don't know. >> you're going to highlight and contour your skin to the extreme. >> jimmy: who's your favorite spice girl? >> i don't know what that means. >> jimmy: yeah. >> up to the nose, you want to come to it on the top of your nose. >> well, you look like a deer right now. >> jimmy: i do? >> yes. >> jimmy: "oh dear." this is what your grandmother uses. mascara. she didn't put it on with one of these little brushes, she puts it on with a toothbrush. >> elongate the inner corner of your eye a little bit. >> jimmy: what's that called? >> eyeliner. >> jimmy: would this an good time for me to get on the trampoline? >> no. [ laughter ] this is a good time to relax. >> jimmy: oh, okay. ♪ put your head up girl you're beautiful as you are ♪ ♪ put your head up girl be anything that you want ♪

♪ put your head up girl you're beautiful as you are ♪ >> yeah, okay, done. >> jimmy: done? >> yeah. >> i hope you guys enjoyed it. now you look like a deer. >> jimmy: can i see the mirror? can you let me look at myself? let me see what you did here. wow. wow, that's really good. [ cheers and applause ] i look like a deer. >> i know. >> jimmy: it's pretty crazy, right? >> yeah. >> jimmy: i think you did a very good job. >> oh, thank you. i thought it was going to be horrible, but it was good. >> jimmy: no, look at it, it's pretty good, right? all i need is antlers. and you learned all that just from this tutorial? >> yeah. >> jimmy: wow. this is pretty good. you know what i tell you something, on halloween i'm going to need you to come over. >> okay. >> jimmy: okay? thanks, frankie. >> you're welcome. >> jimmy: should we look at one more picture of your grandma chippy? >> sure.

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and i'm going to tell you something. this book has a lot of pictures of sean and trump together in the steam room. [ laughter ] it is really very, very sexy. then this is their self titled album, "dan and shay." dan and shay from the mercedes-benz stage. see them at the cma fest next wednesday night on abc. tomorrow night, sean diddy combs, betty gill ham, music from johnny swim, drew holcomb and the neighbors. thursday, dave grohl, brett bare, and courtney barnett. our first guest is a golden globe winner and a new movie with glenn close called "the wife." >> it's good to see you. i don't think people give the wife credit. >> i give my wife plenty of credit. >> that's not what i meant. i meant the rest of the world, the critics, the readers -- >> i know i'm supposed to be

impressed you've wheedled your way onto this flight. i'm telling you, i'm not giving you per miss to write my biography. would you please leave us alone? >> jimmy: "the wife" opens in select theaters august 17th. please welcome christian slater! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: it's very good to have you here. that was a nice entrance. you took your time with it and you really let the audience -- i'm impressed, a lot of people race out here, nervous. >> really, oh man. >> jimmy: you're a show business veteran, it's a gorgeous audience, i wanted to take it in. [ cheers and applause ] turn the lights on again. i get to see them one more time. it's very nice. >> jimmy: how are you doing? how's everything? >> thank you, guys, that was great. everything's great. very happy about this movie. >> jimmy: this is one of these

movies you can't really say much about. >> true, true yeah. >> jimmy: you'll ruin it. >> if i start talking about it too much i would give away elements of the movie. so yeah, i've learned through mr. robot to hold my cards close, and this is a very similar type of situation. >> jimmy: right, yeah. you have to be quiet. because you can ruin things and people will get very, very angry. >> don't want to give anything away. i can say i had a great time working with glenn close. >> jimmy: you can say that, i would think so, yeah. >> huge fan of hers, oh my god. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: is that all you really need to hear is that glenn close is in the movie and you say, yeah, i want to do it? >> pretty much, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> jimmy: it's up to her to pick something good. >> that's true, it's all on her shoulders. she has a good track record. she's done some great stuff. >> jimmy: you play a journalist in this. >> yeah, i play a very relentless journalist. named that that wi e ed nathani. he's so relentless, he's like a dog with a bone. it gave me something to sink my teeth into, that name.

>> jimmy: the name itself. >> the name itself. >> jimmy: is that a coincidence? >> it was a complete coincidence. >> jimmy: speaking of relentless journalists, sean spicer is backstage. >> what? >> jimmy: did you guys cross paths? >> never crossed paths before, another even backstage. that's amazing, i don't know how that happened. >> jimmy: were you hiding in your room? >> no, no. i was out there. i was running around. >> jimmy: have you met any of the president as, living or otherwise? >> i did meet obama. [ cheers and applause ] yeah. he's incredible. and i did have a great experience once with -- that sounds funny -- with bill clinton. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: what kind of great specious? >> not anything that, you know -- >> jimmy: not anything you can talk about? >> no, not a thing. i can't talk about that either. too many spoilers. >> jimmy: where did you meet bill clinton? >> i met him actually at a -- it was a fund-raiser.

yeah it was his last term. and i knew this guy who they were doing the fund-raiser at his house. we were friends. he asked me if i would come to this event and actually sing. >> jimmy: oh, really? >> yeah, yeah, yeah. i got to sing "my way" in front of bill clinton. which was a lot of fun. there's no doubt about it. >> jimmy: was it fun, was it nerve-racking? >> it was nerve-racking. the lineup was richard marx. >> jimmy: oh, yeah, sure. >> who's made an appearance on "the bachelor" recently. >> jimmy: that's right, we'll get to "the bachelor" in a minute, i know you love "the bachelor." >> i do enjoy "the bachelor." rob lowe, he played the saxopho saxophone. >> jimmy: he did? >> yeah. >> jimmy: wait a minute, does he really play the saxophone? >> you can test him next time he's here. there's a possibility it might have been recorded. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: because -- yeah. >> i don't know. >> jimmy: in st. elmo's fire, it's the worst fake saxophone playing. >> that's what he played, he played that from st. elmo's fire. >> jimmy: interesting. >> he may have that skill, i don't know. >> jimmy: all right. >> i say there's no recording

there. >> jimmy: it went well? >> it did, i believe so. >> jimmy: did you direct it at president clinton? i did. >> jimmy: you did. >> he stood up at the end, hey! nice moment. he's been amazing because he -- well, you've heard this before. but it's like when you're around him, it's like -- it's just -- you feel like you're in this bubble. >> jimmy: he zeros in on you. >> he zeros in on you, you have these great conversations, it's amazing. >> jimmy: i had an experience that i agree with you, because i did an event, a charity event, with him. we were backstage well before the event. >> yeah. >> jimmy: and there was no one else for him to talk to, so he started talking to me. [ laughter ] >> right. >> jimmy: we reached a point in the conversation where it was like, i am not smart enough to have this -- to be talking to this man. >> right, yes, yes. >> jimmy: i'm all out of [ bleep ] to be honest with you. >> exactly. that's all i had! exactly. yeah. >> jimmy: even the things that i knew about that i tried to interject in the conversation. >> i know. >> jimmy: he knew more about those things than i did. >> of course, of course, yeah.

you've got to get in and get out quick. >> jimmy: that's the key. >> i had another -- well, sinatra was another guy. >> jimmy: oh. >> i had the opportunity to meet him once. a very -- i was the -- this was obviously 20 years ago. and it was for new year's, it was a concert he was doing in vegas. and really excited about it. did all the preparations. got to my seat. >> jimmy: what do you mean, preparations? >> well, you know, it was new year's. you had to kind of get organized. >> i see, okay. >> make sure you had the -- i wanted to have a good -- yeah, exactly. the whole deal. >> jimmy: right, right. >> and i got at my table. sinatra comes out. my table was a little far from the stage. but he starts singing. then everybody in the crowd also starts singing along with him. so you couldn't really hear anything sinatra was doing. >> jimmy: great, terrific. >> it was like a dinner theater type situation. so i had a guy next to me singing "my way," of course. "come fly with me." >> jimmy: just what you want to hear. >> just what i wanted to hear. >> have to stop myself sometimes from doing that to other people

around me. i have to remember, they're not here to hear me sing. >> they're not here to hear you, yes, exactly. >> jimmy: did you talk so frank afterwards? >> i actually did. i got to go backstage. and he was there, he was there by the bar. they had some barmaid up for him. i just walked -- he was by himself. him and the bartender and i walked over. hey, frank, i'm christian, nice to meet you. he was like, all right, kid, beat it. >> jimmy: really. >> it was after his concert, he just wanted his own time there. >> jimmy: have you thought about writing an autobiography? you probably have a building great stories. [ cheers and applause ] >> oh. >> jimmy: really. or is that something that you feel -- that gives you discomfort? >> no, no. i like the idea. >> jimmy: you would do it? >> yeah, of course. yeah. >> jimmy: you haven't been approached a million times? >> no one. >> jimmy: oh, right after the show we're going to my office with a tape recorder. >> this is it. >> jimmy: i want to hear all the good stuff. >> okay, i can go on and on and on. >> jimmy: like "the bachelor."

i want to know when you lost your virginity. did you see the virgin? >> yeah, so funny he was talking about it as though he was just telling her. >> jimmy: i know. >> 22 million people now know that this guy is a virgin. insane. >> jimmy: little did he know christian slater is sitting there watching him. >> ha ha! >> jimmy: are you into it this year? >> yeah i'm enjoying it. >> jimmy: who do you like? blake or garrett? >> i believe i'm on the blake side. >> jimmy: you do. i don't think blake -- i'd pick garrett but i think -- >> you do? it's not that i -- something a little shady about him. >> jimmy: not that i want it to be garrett. i don't care at all. they're going to be broken up in six weeks, let be honest. [ laughter ] i just think that it's -- yeah. i just -- >> oh, becca. you've been through so much. right? >> jimmy: are you still discussing this with your daughter? i know this is a thing you guys are both into. >> yeah, well now it's a family event. >> jimmy: yeah. do your friends make fun of you for loving "the bachelor"?

>> yeah, no -- i definitely get -- we slowly but surely started recruiting them. then i just heard that sean penn is into it. >> jimmy: yeah, sean penn is totally a fan of "the bachelor," yeah. >> if that doesn't validate it beyond all belief, now i feel totally confident in saying i'm a huge "bachelorette" fan. i love "bachelor in paradise," "i love "bachelor," i love them all. >> jimmy: sean penn has really made it okay for a lot of men. >> i feel, yes. he can do it. >> jimmy: what great work he's doing. >> he is. >> jimmy: forget what he's doing in haiti. >> forget all his humanitarian stuff, the fact that he loves "bachelorette" has made me embrace him. >> jimmy: it's great to see you. i look forward to a new season of "mr. robot." we cannot reveal anything about it. [ cheers and applause ] the movie is called "the wife." it opens august 17th. in select theaters. christian slater, everyone! we'll be right back with sean spicer. it's the ford summer sales event

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>> jimmy: hi there, welcome back. still to come, dan and shay. our next guest spent six excruciating months and one glorious day as white house press secretary for president donald trump. this is his new book about that called "the briefing: politics,

the press, and the president." please say hello to sean spicer. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: wow. i have one already, but thank you for the second one. >> oh, give me that one back, then. >> jimmy: no, i'll keep that one, thank you, sean. >> that was personal. >> jimmy: you're dressing like a pimp, what's going on? [ laughter ] >> business. >> jimmy: is this hollywood sean spicer we're looking at right now? >> i don't know. >> jimmy: i like the idea -- >> apparently the first time i did this, not with you, but i had a little issue with the suit. >> jimmy: yeah. right, yeah, right. >> tried to fix that. >> jimmy: everything all right? >> great, thank you. >> jimmy: are you happy to be out of there, adjusting to life on the outside? >> i am. >> jimmy: when you wake up in the morning, it's like you look at twitter, there's a feeling of great relief and calm wash you

over you? >> i take a long time before i get to the tweets. >> jimmy: do you ever look at them and go, this is how i would handle this? >> nope. >> jimmy: no, you just lock it all -- >> moved on. >> jimmy: completely out of your mind. >> correct. >> jimmy: you still talk to the president? >> i do, yes. >> jimmy: how off the don you speak to him? >> as often as he likes. >> jimmy: he calls you? >> he does. >> jimmy: you call him? >> i do not call him. >> jimmy: you do not. >> i wait to be called. >> jimmy: when he calls you is it like, oh, no, what this is going to be about? >> the first time i was like what did i do wrong? it was right after your show. >> jimmy: was it really? >> i was like, oh, god. >> jimmy: was it really? >> swear to god, yeah. >> jimmy: was he mad or no? >> no, he said, great job on jimmy kimmel. i went, whew. you know i don't work there. >> jimmy: no, but it's funny. you still have -- i think i have this with people i worked for in the past, where you still feel like they're your boss even if they're not necessarily your boss. >> yeah. i think that part of what i pride myself on to some degree is that all of the people that

i've worked for, the one quality i think all of them would agree on is that i've been a loyal person to them. i don't believe you can have a job like that, share with them your private counsel,hen go out and talk about it. i think most of the -- the people i've worked for in various capacities have always said, hey, look, this is a guy -- >> jimmy: what about this? >> that's about me. that's my life. >> jimmy: oh, okay. yeah, no, i do feel like you could have got into a lot of stuff you didn't get into. this is not a tell-all, it's a tell-some book, right? >> tell-me book. >> jimmy: yeah. you keep the tell-all stuff for maybe another book somewhere down the line? >> no. >> jimmy: or just to make sure the president doesn't have you rubbed out? [ laughter ] >> no. i'm pretty confident that i'm okay. >> jimmy: is the president the best boss you ever had? >> i've been honored to work for a lot of great people. >> jimmy: so no, he's not? [ laughter ] >> that's not what i said. [ cheers and applause ] my wife -- i will say this, my wife is the best boss that i've

ever worked for. how's that? [ laughter and applause ] >> jimmy: did he ever -- this is going to seem like a joke. did he ever make you cry? >> no. >> jimmy: never did? >> no. >> jimmy: even when you went home, like oh my god, what have i gotten into, my world is falling down around me? >> not -- there's a lot of emotions. >> jimmy: but never tears? >> never tears. >> jimmy: okay, all right. does he tweet from the toilet? [ laughter ] >> i -- >> jimmy: is it possible? >> not something i've ever asked. i don't know. >> jimmy: you don't know. >> no. >> jimmy: hm, yeah. that's interesting. you talk about loyalty. to the president. >> yeah. >> jimmy: and your job as press secretary. which do you think is more important? loyalty or the truth? >> i don't think it's a binary choice. i think that you can tell the person that you work for if there's a problem with what they're saying and you give them the best advice and counsel you can. wrong it's a binary choice, one

way or the other. >> jimmy: right, but i'm asking you -- [ laughter ] you know, in -- >> you always -- i -- the answer is you always have to go out and maintain your credibility in the truth, yes. so that would take precedence over the first. >> jimmy: did you always go out and maintain your credibility in the truth? >> i think there were times i went out and expressed what the president believed or a view that he had that people didn't agree with or they were offering -- sale that that was not true. and would blame me for the fact that i was communicating a view or a belief that he had. >> jimmy: you felt like it was a kill the messenger type situation? >> in many cases. >> jimmy: yeah. these are things that might not have been things you personally agreed with? >> right. i've been doing this for 25 years. i've never had a boss or something that i've represented where 100% i agree with what they believe. but that's not the job you sign up for. you're not saying, i'm going to agree with everything you're saying. i will do the best job i can in communicating the no thoughts

and beliefs and ideas that you have. >> jimmy: the beginning of the book is the end -- >> don't give it away. >> jimmy: the end of your time at the white house. it's the beginning of the book. >> it is. >> in the beginning of the book you talk about this letter of resignation that you wrote and that you'd written it -- >> in may. >> jimmy: in may, then july you wound up resigning? >> yeah. >> jimmy: we're almost at -- just past the one-year anniversary of your time there. why did you write it in may? >> i talk about this in the book. that i had become the story too often. and that's not a good place for a spokesperson to be. you're not supposed to be talking or defending yourself. you're supposed to be communicating on behalf of the person or the institution that you represent. and i knew it wasn't getting better. and i wanted to make sure that i was ready. because at some point i knew that the end was coming. and it was coming sooner rather than later. >> jimmy: and at that time did someone in the administration try to talk you out of leaving?

>> when i offered my resignation to the president he asked me to stay. i thought there was no way the situation would turn itself around. he deserved a clean slate. i didn't think that my presence was ever going to allow that to happen and i thought it was in the best interests of both of us to move on. >> jimmy: at that time he hired anthony scaramucci to be -- would he have been your -- would you have reported to him? >> the way the structure would work then, yes. >> jimmy: and that was unacceptable? >> correct. >> jimmy: yeah. and in fact, anthony scaramucci, you mention in the book, texted you when he got the job and said, give me a call, and you did not give him a call? >> correct. >> jimmy: why didn't you call him? >> because i didn't want to have that conversation. i knew -- i'd already thought about that this was god telling me, here's your off-ramp, take it. and i didn't think -- i've nothing against him personally. i didn't think that structure was sustainable. and i felt like i knew what i wanted to do. i'd talked to my wife and my mom and said, i'm comfortable, i'm at peace with this decision. and i didn't want to have a conversation that would be -- that would lead to any other

outcome but that. >> jimmy: what did your mom think of all the abuse you got, of all -- the things you were -- you know, obviously there were a lot of jokes made at your expense. >> many by you. >> jimmy: many by me. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: that's true. >> some were funny. >> jimmy: that's true. i'm sure -- it's one thing to be you. >> yeah. >> jimmy: it's another thing to be your mom. >> you know, my mom -- my dad and my wife have been my strongest advocates and supporters. i think there were clearly times where she felt, you know -- felt for me in a way that only a mother can. >> jimmy: did she ever say, go in there and tell that son of a bitch trump to stop making you lie? [ laughter ] >> my mother would never speak like that. [ cheers and applause ] she'd say, "i'm praying for you." >> jimmy: i'm praying for you?

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>> jimmy: we are back. sean spicer is here with us. he has written a book about his time in the white house. you got a tweet from president trump when the book came out. he wrote, "friend of mine and the man who has truly seen politics and life as few others ever will, sean spicer has written a great new book, a story told with both heart and knowledge, really good, go get it." now there's no chance he read this book, right? [ laughter ] i know he likes stuff about him. but on the other hand, having to read? forget about it. >> he has a lot on his plate. i'm sure he skimmed it. >> jimmy: did you run any of it by time beforehand? >> i kept him up to date, yes. i did not give him the entirety -- because i -- we ran up to the deadline. i kept him up to date, told him what was going on, shared passages. >> jimmy: did he didn't like something -- >> you'd know it.

i think the tweet would have been different. >> jimmy: if he said, i don't like that would you have said, all right, i'm not going to put it in there? >> wife considerate it. i don't think that that was going to be the case. that wasn't my goal is to tell my story and to kind of tell some behind-the-scenes aspects of what happened over the campaign, the convention, and transition early on in the white house. >> jimmy: you had a book party at the trump hotel in washington, d.c. >> i did. >> jimmy: did the president charge you for the room? >> yes. [ laughter ] he didn't, the hotel did. >> jimmy: the hotel charged you. any type of a discount given for the room? >> i think i did pretty well, yeah. >> jimmy: i would hope you would get some kind of a discount in some way. >> like a groupon. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: do you think that rudy giuliani is doing a good job defending the president right now? >> i think he's got a relationship that goes back decades with the president. and one of the things, whether it's that or being spokesman, there's got to an comfort level, clearly. i think he has that with the president. >> jimmy: what would your advice

be if you were there and rudy was saying, collusion -- all these things that he's saying, you've seen this i'm sure. >> i would probably not want to give a ton of advice right now. i'll let them figure out the message. >> jimmy: yeah. you are doing a podcast. what is the tight of the podcast? >> "everything's going to be all right." [ laughter ] >> jimmy: why is that the title? >> it's a double entendre of the right, i'm conservative. >> jimmy: i thought it was like, the world's ending. but don't worry we're going to come out of this. >> we're bringing a whole new audience now. >> jimmy: yeah, maybe so. people who are -- the end of the worlders, yeah. what do you talk about on the podcast? >> current events. issues. whatever -- i mean, literally a current events podcast that katie pavelec and i are able to talk about what's happening. sports, pop culture, politics. >> jimmy: do you think when the president calls news fake news that that is a disservice to journalism and to the country?

>> yeah, so i think that like every industry there's good and there's bad. i write in the book by name there are a lot of really good journalists, that i may not agree with their stories but they're tough, tenacious, and fair, and very professional. i think it's important to recognize the good if you're going to call out the bad. i've never tried to paint everybody with a broad brush. i think there are some individuals that don't do as good of a job, that don't adhere to the same professional standards and behavior that i think should be expected within that industry. but i don't think you should throw out the entire industry because of some bad apples. >> jimmy: you disagree with the idea of fake news? >> no, i think there is fake news. there's no question about it. i think there's nebraska that probably doesn't think there's made-up stories that get thrown out there. there's a difference between fake stories, stories you don't like, and stories that have falsehoods in them. >> jimmy: donald trump, according to your book, when you had that famous moment with the crowd size, i'm sure you're sick of hearing this. you'd had a press conference that you didn't like, you had

that press conference that, well, you said after -- what happened after that press conference? where you asserted his views on the crowd size? >> i'm going home and i'm like, this may be my first -- i mean, i don't think i had my i.d. yet. i'm like, okay, i'm done. >> jimmy: after that first conference? >> the first one. i knew that monday was my first press conference and i basically was like, if i don't knock this out of the park, then i'm done. and so after that one, that's when he was like, okay, that's what i want more. >> jimmy: he hugged you? >> he did. >> jimmy: does he wear cologne? [ laughter ] does he have a scent? does he wear trump cologne? >> no, i don't -- i've never -- i don't believe so so, no. these are questions i never expected. >> jimmy: well, listen, that's why we're going to work on the next book together. the tell-all book. "the briefing: politics, the press, and the president" is available now. sean spicer, everybody! thank you, sean. we'll be right back.

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