developing situation. and we are following breaking news this morning out of southerncalifornia. 12 people shot and killed inside of a nightclub, among them a sheriff's sergeant, ron helus. the gunman we've now learned is dead. investigators still working to determine who he was and why he did this. >> this is a scene, some of the images we've been getting in the last few hours, this is -- the shooting started around 11:20 pacific time in ventura county at college night, college

country night. our kayna whitworth is there in thousand oaks, ventura county, california. kayna, what is the scene now? >> reporter: it's been a terrible night here, kendis. i have to tell you when we learned a total of 13 people are dead including sheriff's deputy, it was highly emotional for the ventura county sheriff to talk about that. what i'm seeing right now is something i have to tell you, though, kendis, pretty incredible. i'm watching right now as deputies, as witnesses, as the victims have now gathered in the middle of an intersection, some of the young girls have bandages on their legs and have joined in a prayer circle together right now. they're trying to tell us tha tyoi t come back stronger than ever after a horrifying night at the borderline bar and grill. it's located just off the 101 which is a major thoroughfare in eriff's ofci the that there is blood everywhere. it's absolutely tragic and this

investigation is just beginning. when asked if they believe the suspect killed himself, they said it appears that way, although it is currently under investigation. they do not have that confirmed. they know the gunman used a handgun but investigating to see if there were other weapons. many inside reported to us they saw smoke bombs going off and sparks shooting out of them. they have no idea if there is a link to terrorism and no idea of a motive. we have spoken with so many witnesses who poured out and say they go there all the time, two or thee times a week and consider it their safe space. we talked to one young woman who was there to celebrate her 21st birthday and another who told me a bartender saved helped her hi when this happened. >> kayna, you weregas massacre month ago andhe, yes, again, it's got to be quite an emotional scene and reminiscent of a horrible situation in this

country. >> reporter: well, and, you know, kendis, as we've been talking throughout the night this is a country music bar and so there are actually a lot of people that i have spoken with tonight who were in las vegas themselves. they were at that concert. they were there to see jason al de aldean. they know co-workers and know people in the bar and many experiencing this kind of incredible gun violence in our country twice in their lifetime. >> and we're seeing some of those images of a prayer circle there at the scene and these people who were there, many of them were so young. this is an 18 and older club as you mentioned, this was college country night. this is near a college campus. and we knohat itiho witnesses since this happened. are you still seeing some of those questionings happening or what is the scene like right now? >> reporter: you know what i'm seeing that's even worse, it's

even scarier is we're seeing parents arriving and they're getting out of their cars and they're panicked. and that's what we're seeing right now and that is hard to see and that is scary for everybody here. most of the people have cleared out. the ones that survived this and so we're seeing some very, very panicked -- what looks to be parents showing up at this hour. >> and absolute just nightmare. >> it's got to be such a horrendous situation for anybody, much more for a parent to get there to that situation, kayna, being a new mom, i'm sure it's really difficult to see that situation. there are many people who were going to the hospital on their own, kayna. you spoke to some of the witnesses. did they say -- give a description of what this guy, this madman looked like or what he was doing? >>ah, so those that saw him say that he

was dressed in all black, black hoodie and had some kind of ski. i spoke with a young woman who is from a military familiar and familiar with guns and said this person knew what he was doing. he knew how to handle a weapon and he had a good idea of what he was there to do. and that was really just to create this horrible tragedy mass scale. a lot of people, though, also, you know, they didn't see the gunman. they heard the shots and what ' listened to that people told them to do. when they heard get down, they got down. when they heard run, they ran and some of the other injury, people were injured by broken glass because some folks were actually throwing chairs through windows to try and escape out of the window. i spoke with another girl who was basically trampled. everyone was trying to escape, so t to b arned here ave o the hospital.

i'm sure we're going to be learning of injuries to come. >> yeah, one witness there, one guy that was inside said he learned tonight that barstools break windows because he used some barstools to break some windows and many people are saying that the gunfire was louder than the music. i think in some respect that might have helped them realize what was going on at that time. >> it's interesting because some of the witnesses that we've heard several of them say at first they thought it was a joke, which is, you know, it's just so hard i'm sure in the moment to wrap your head around what's actually happening. we heard from people who were right by the door when the gunman came in and knew immediately what was happening because they say he came in, shot a security guard right away, possibly through some smoke bombs in so that could have disoriented people that were there inside the club but then started shooting at there dancing. >> yeah, and, kayna, based on some of the witnesses and some of the people you're seeing, th

club are very young >> reporter: yeah, yeah, unfortunately, i think that that is safe to assume. again, it is an 18 and up bar. it's a popular night. it is college night here at this bar. i'm actually looking right now at, you know, the student body president from the university came down and said i know that some of my fellow students are in there. so it is likely that the victims are among -- very young people, again, we're seeing parents coming down to get them. they say like i said this is supposed to be a safe place. it was a safe club. parents liked when their kids went there. and it's forever changed. >> all of this happened just around 11:20 pacific time andai time that it really started to

get busy. there were hundreds of people according to the sheriff's office who to 15 people at least would were injured but on top of that, you know, the people who had to run for their lives so maybe they don't have physical injuries but emotionally they're scarred from this for life potentially. >> that, indeed. we'll continue to follow the developments. our thanks to kayna whitworth who is there on the scene in ventura county, thousand oaks, at the borderline bar and grill where this horrific shooting took place.

we're back following the latest development in this mass shooting that took place at a e. these are some of the images

that we got into the newsroom following the incident. tim d face.ke with i -- i heard the shots, i took cover and i didn't want to be a target with my son next to me. and i saw him moving rapidly to the right when he came in. after he shot the doorman. >> did he say anything. >> he said nothing at all. he didn't say anything. i heard at least eight to ten shots and i got outside. i still heard the shots and there was a pause then i knew he reclipped and he just kept on firing and by that time my son had came out and i was running back in to get him because he didn't follow me like i asked him to. i think he kind of panicked a little and just froze. >> how old is your son?

>> he's 26, yeah. and we come here -- he's fine. and we just -- i got him. i just started yelling, john, john, let's go, let's go so we ran to the car and that's when we saw the sheriff pul up and i believe that's the sheriff that lost his life and i want to say i'm so sorry for his family. he was a brave man to come into those shots because it was a scary situation for everyone. it really was. >> scary situation for so many family members. >> just absolutely terrifying and we're hearing from people who were inside about how they managed to escape the gunfire. here's one of those interviews. >> walk in sounded like a submachine gun or a small caliber and had a big magazine and started popping off.

and then everyone ducks down and then we start throwing chairs out the window. smoke grenades and then smoke is coming out then everyone starts jumping through the windows and my friend got hit right here. he didn't get hit real hard but it went through his shoulder and then we just start running. there were only like two cops on scene after like ten minutes, ten minutes and only two cops on scene and then we're behind this little barrier that's holding a garbage can and he pops off a whole other 30 rounds, 30 rounds possible, and 10 minutes after that more cops come and they drag everyone out and that's what i remember. >> you watch and listen to him speak and realize once again how young the victims and the survivors were inside that bar on college night. we'll take a quick break and

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we heard from the sheriff there in ventura county, jeff dean, he fought back tears as he talked about the fellow friend and sergeant that they lost just hours ago. >> additional units arrived and including s.w.a.t. personnel, the simmie valley and ventura police department and additional officers from the highway patrol and made entry into the borderline bar and grill and they found 11 ventura countys that had been killed. the suspect who we believe was the only suspect was dead inside. and there were multiple other victims of different levels of injury inside that were rescued from the scene and taken to local hospitals. in addition to the victims inside and the numbers are

upwards of 10 to 12, additional victims with minor injuries fled the scene on their own and took themselves to local hospitals. sergeant helus died >> the sergeant passed away at the hospital about an hour ago. i only mention it might be terrorists because that's where we go these days when we have multiple shootings like this. there's no reason for it and there's this horrific death. i have nothing to lead me to believe or the fbi that there is any terrorism link here but we certainly will look at that option. >> were there any -- >> sergeant helus was on the force for 29 years. was looking to retire in the next year or so. he was a moorpark resident and

survived by his wife and son. >> what was his name. >> ron helus, h-e-l-u-s. >> what do you make of this? >> i make that it's a horrific incident. it's part of the horrors that are happening in our country and everywhere and i think it's impossible to put any logic or any sense to the senseless. >> and that is ventura county sheriff jeff dean there saying he spoke with that sheriff deputy's wife and said that sergeant ron helus died a hero because he went in to save lives, the first calls came in around 11:20 pacific time and sergeant helus was there within three minu met there by someone from the california highway patrol. they went in and within seconds we're told sergeant helus was shot multiple times, that trooper from california highway

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we continue to follow this breaking news, 12 people killed in southern california at a nightclub in thousand oaks, california. the gunman is dead. we've been hearing these stories of heroism, people smashing out windows trying to get to safety. hundreds of people inside the borderline bar and grill when ome the gunman.ndre >> as he opened fire, yeah.

>> i was on the like side area like you could say the stage and where i was looking was directly of where the guy walked in and started shooting and i can't believe i saw it with my own two eyes. it freaks me out because where i was looking, you know, by all means some guy just walks in, pulls out a gun and starts shooting people and once -- when someone shoots a gun you see that little flash. i saw that happen and still just puts me in shock as out here like in thousand oaks, ventura county area is our safe haven. you know, nothing like this happens. >> nothing like this happens in ventura county, in fact, the sheriff been there a long time said he's never had to deal with a scene like this. he described it as a horrific wa a college country night. is i older club and

so some of the victims presumed to be fairly young. they've not identified those victims other than the sheriff sergeant ron helus who was killed responding to these calls of shots fired. >> the sergeant who planned on retiring next year. he leaves behind a wife and a kid but we are also cares and thinking about many of those parents would won't have their kids returning home this morning. we'll be right back. thiuninterrupted streaminglogy

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and that breakin news is in kourpb california where a gunman goes on a shooting rampage inside a nightclub. 12 people are dead. one of the victims say ventura county sheriffs deputy. the gunman is also dead. good morning to you and thank you for joining us. it is thursday, november 8th. >> katie eutis is live with breaking details. >> the sheriff says they are still working to notify families of the victims. it is college night. so likely young students who were killed. the club isulith cal lutheran and pepper dine students. the victims have not been identified. hundreds of people were inside e e shooter as a e man in his 30s or 40s wearing a black trench coat. the fbi is on scene to help

identify the shooter. witnesses say the man threw a smoke bomb before he opened fire on the crowd of people. the sheriff confirms they have recovered a handgun from the scene. it is still early in the investigation and the scene is not entirely clear. the tpeuflt deputy and the chp officer arrived around 11:20 wednesday night and exchanged gunfire with the shooter. it is described as a chaotic scene as people broke out windows and climbed over broken glass to get out. again, 11 people killed, 15 more injured. in addition to that, the gunman is dead. it is unclear if it's from a the fits, entered as soon as he arrived, and that's when he was shot. that is protocol for actchp

helus from the club. he is survived by a wife and son. he has served 29 years and was looking to retire next year. >> sergeant helus died at the -- uh. the sergeant passed away at the hospital about an hour ago. ron was a hard-working, dedicated sheriff's sergeant. he was totally committed. he gave his all. tonight, as i told his wife, he died a heroes because he -- he went in to save lives of other people. >> the sheriff was a personal friend of the sergeant. a total of 13 people killed. survivors are being taken to a reunification center nearby. family members are arriving on scene to find out if their loved ones are safe or injured.

the hotline is 805-465-6650. we do know pepperdine and cal lutheran students frequent the club. in addition to the deputy who died, we are hearing stories of others who rescued people inside. i'll have more stories in my next live report in about half an hour. >> the hotline is so important. a lot of folks here in the bay area may have students that attend school, university in southern california. cal lutheran or pepperdine. we are keeping you up to the latest on this shooting. several people survived. obviously there were hundreds of people inside the bar in thousand oaks. having to see what happens. >> they are offering words of comfort. one girl said she was dancing with